Re: Sonia Poulton 'Teaser Trailer' out now (4 Oct 2015)

by **Jill Havern** 25.10.15 19:00

This post is by tigerloaf on the McCann supporters forum Stopthemyths - I believe tigerloaf and Cristobell aren't the best of chums:

Re: Off their TROLLeys!

Postby tigerloaf » Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:43 pm
No matter what absolute drivel Rosalind/Rosalinda/Linda Hutton might scribble on her disgusting and increasingly degenerate blog she cannot deny the basic fact that she has posted (and personally chosen to allow to be posted by anonymous commentators) vile and malicious accusations against others.

She has no defence against that and could well be the subject of either criminal (depending on precisely what crimes she is being reported for) or civil action regarding such behaviour. The evidence is on the internet for all to see. It would probably take a jury a matter of seconds to convict her should they be asked to ponder the matter.

It would be absolutely no defence whatsoever for her to claim she was responding to other people's intimidation of her. Not only could a lawyer very easily prove this to be untrue as could anyone who has followed the saga of her online activitiy, it simply would not wash with the Judge who would be very forceful in reminding this so-called former legal-secretary (Does she really mean s.tamp-licker?) that it is no defence in law and she should take personal responsibility for her own actions.

She should also be reminded that her reliance on cannabis or other drugs for personal comfort will not wash with the Judge either as an excuse for her malicious online behaviour. However, if she can prove the mental illness she has written of which supposedly affects her by submitting to tests then maybe that will prove to be a mitigating factor.

I read a few hours ago that Hutton is angry that people are actually not just accusing her but condemning her as guilty of malicious online activity, of posting heinous statements about named individuals without furnishing (or having the ability to furnish) any proof whatsoever. She seems to think it demands a court case before people can proclaim their belief that she is guilty.

She is fundamentally wrong in this. If you witness an event (as I have personally witnessed the depraved activity of Rosalind Hutton on her Cristobel blog) and as I witnessed a road incident the other day, then you are expected to state who you believe is at fault, who was the guilty party. There are hundreds of people who can testify that they have witnessed her and know her to be guilty of posting and allowing to be posted malicious lies on her blog and that she is carrying out a sustained series of articles harassing and defaming others. Her guilt is blindingly obvious. Whether this brings about civil or criminal conviction is another matter but it is foolish of her to try to suggest she is not guilty of the actions.

Put simply, this woman acts appallingly online. She has admitted to a national newspaper that her malicious online behaviour and nasty online abuse is done for the fun and the enjoyment she gets from it (the "BUZZ").

There are people whose capacity to behave decently online, to refrain from obscenity and goading, suggest they have no place in online society. (You only have to look at the latest depraved posts from this woman to see what I mean.) In the real world such behaviour is controlled more effectively. People are prevented from going into places where they are known to be unable to control themselves. Banning from shops for shoplifters, pubs for violent alcoholics, neighbourhoods for uncontrollable teenagers, town centres for beggars and so on. People like Hutton should be banned from all social media and blogs by law if they cannot control their outbursts there.

There is one good thing to come out of this online fighting, though.

The reputation of Sonia Poulton has yet again been trashed not by those who oppose her appallingly simplistic and badly-researched views on the McCann case but by one of the people her home movie about the case is actually most reliant on.

What kind of publicity storm will this spat between a star of the home movie and Bennett, the convicted liar, bring at the time of its premiere (if it ever gets released of course)?

On the issue of Poulton, a woman who seems to be totally off her trolley, it has been suggested to me that a full report

of this spat between Hutton (who tells malicious lies on the net for fun),
of the home movie and the doorstepping of Kate McCann with previously answered questions,
of the behaviour of this so-called journalist at the inquest of Brenda Leyland,
of the use of Brenda Leyland's name without the permission of the family,
of the lies she has told about being commissioned over this movie,
of her ongoing relationship with the online, gun-toting, nasty boy,
of her disastrous stint on Lizard TV and the acrimonious arguments with Icke,
of her public relationship and support for certain online abusers,
of her strange online connections with other journalists

would make a nice little email to be sent to various producers of morning shows. Perhaps they are aware of some of the nastiness of this woman whose services they still rely on when even louder mouths are unavailable but do they realise what kind of person she is in the round? In particular are they aware just what kind of troll she is herself and just how much she supports proven and self-confessed online abusers such as Hutton?

I know I have asked Poulton previously to answer some simple questions about her behaviour and she has pointedly failed to answer any.

But I will ask two more here today just to set the record straight and so that she knows she has had the opportunity to reply.

Ms Poulton -

Firstly, do you have any comments on the points I will be making shortly to various producers about your movie, your use of the Leyland name for publicity, your online behaviour, your interaction with online abusers etc? I am perfectly prepared to consider any such comments before sending my concerns about the MSM using a person such as yourself to comment on matters which I believe (and have evidence to show) you are actually involved in.

Secondly, and this is rather more tongue-in-cheek, do you ever lash out at the gun-toting nasty boy you have become so enamoured with about the fact that just a tiny proportion of that lottery win could have kept you and him in home-movie making for the rest of your lives? You might have even found a camera man who does not wobble so much and an editor whose cuts/dubs are not so badly done. What a mug he was to throw it all at the wily Kazakhstanis? Still, he has you to keep him now so he isn't so worried is he?

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by Guest 25.10.15 19:06

parapono wrote:
Verdi wrote:To knock all this into some sort of perspective, parapono made a very pertinent point over yonder early this morning which has been conveniently ignored, so I'm posting here because I think it deserves a more discerning audience (hope that's OK parapono). Remember it is weekend - snipped..

Things must really work differently in the UK.

Here in the Netherlands the police doesn't give private
information by telephone.
Police stations aren't open 24/7 for information about official
complaints possibly made against you.
Certainly not on a Saturday night.
If you went in during office hours to ask about this,
after showing your ID,
the answer would be that you just have to wait.
They'll act on a complaint against you in their own time.
They wont even tell you whether any complaint was made.

I've been involved with a few criminal cases in the UK in the past (the right side of the law of course!) and can confirm that the above applies in the UK as well as the Netherlands - unless procedures have changed dramatically in recent years. If, as a member of the public, you visit a cop shop and start asking questions about a complaint made against you, or anybody else for that matter, the duty desk will merely tell you that if a complaint has been made it will be looked into and they will contact you when/if necessary - they certainly won't give out information about case detail.

I'm sure late Saturday night, the night shift duty officer that Ms Hutton spoke to over the phone, was more than sympathetic. Perhaps she told him/her tales of manic depression, child abuse, institutionalized brutality and being the victim of internet trolls - she may have even give the long awaited documentary a bit of a plug?

As aiyoyo wrote up-thread, you would think a long serving award winning top legal secretary would understand basic policing procedures.
Of course it's ok to post it.
Thanks for doing so.
I'm quite happy to hear UK Justice is quite similar to ours.
I already got that impression from Judge Tugendhat,
you just confirmed it.

parapono

Patiently waiting for Justice to be done.
In Lisbon. Anywhere else.

Don't be fooled by the retaliatory fever this afternoon - there appears to be some confusion over yonder about the purpose of an emergency 24/7 contact point for the UK police. A caller on the end of a telephone line who could be anyone in the world, calling to inquire about a complaint or crime reported - can you imagine the switchboard operator giving out information to an anonymous caller (that is what it would be even if you claimed to be Cristobell or the Queen of Sheba) or putting the call through to a police duty officer to do much the same? Still, you know that already!

Contrary to what a certain person seems to think, it's not the Samaritans we are talking of here, it's the UK police! Clutching at straws springs to mind!

by Guest 25.10.15 19:24

Verdi wrote:Don't be fooled by the retaliatory fever this afternoon - there appears to be some confusion over yonder about the purpose of an emergency 24/7 contact point for the UK police. A caller on the end of a telephone line who could be anyone in the world, calling to inquire about a complaint or crime reported - can you imagine the switchboard operator giving out information to an anonymous caller (that is what it would be even if you claimed to be Cristobell or the Queen of Sheba) or putting the call through to a police duty officer to do much the same? Still, you know that already!

Contrary to what a certain person seems to think, it's not the Samaritans we are talking of here, it's the UK police! Clutching at straws springs to mind!

Yes, I bet the local constabulary's all over the UK receive calls after 1 in the morning from good upstanding people enquiring if a complaint has been made about them.

by Guest 25.10.15 19:28

@Get'emGoncalo wrote: "This post is by tigerloaf on the McCann supporters forum Stopthemyths - I believe tigerloaf and Cristobell aren't the best of chums:"

Goodness me, never thought the day would come when I agree with almost every word of a particular post on stopthemeths. To think the one thing to bring together the opposing factions in the case of missing MBM would be Rosalind Cristobell, Hutton and her partner in crime Sonia Poulton.

by Guest 25.10.15 19:46

HKP wrote:
Verdi wrote:Don't be fooled by the retaliatory fever this afternoon - there appears to be some confusion over yonder about the purpose of an emergency 24/7 contact point for the UK police. A caller on the end of a telephone line who could be anyone in the world, calling to inquire about a complaint or crime reported - can you imagine the switchboard operator giving out information to an anonymous caller (that is what it would be even if you claimed to be Cristobell or the Queen of Sheba) or putting the call through to a police duty officer to do much the same? Still, you know that already!

Contrary to what a certain person seems to think, it's not the Samaritans we are talking of here, it's the UK police! Clutching at straws springs to mind!
Yes, I bet the local constabulary's all over the UK receive calls after 1 in the morning from good upstanding people enquiring if a complaint has been made about them.

Meanwhile Mr. Andrew is fading into the background - you know, the one that made serious threats against Tony Bennett. Not so easy mate, how did you manage to so easily gain information from the UK police about a complaint made against you? Has the duty officer now got a greasy palm or are you just naturally persuasive? Neither I bet!

Some years ago a couple of police officers turned up on my doorstep wishing to talk to me in connection with a nationwide fraud case. I had already left for work but on arrival I received a telephone call requesting my presence at the local cop shop for interview. Even though clearly a suspect at this stage, I was not advised to be accompanied by my solicitor (just as well cos I didn't have one - why should I?), off I toddled to the station where a formal statement was taken - still without a solicitor.

Methinks some people either live in a world of fantasy or they watch too much television - or maybe they just think we are all stupid.

by Guest 25.10.15 20:11

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote: "I actually left CMoMM because I was appalled at the stalking and harassment of this innocent [Smith] family"

Well, it actually took her a long time to decide didn't it? *Tony Bennett recalls that her concern about the Smith family commenced early in 2014 but she didn't flounce off until the mass migration of August/September/October 2014.* Amazes me how anyone can state without reservations that someone is innocent - smacks of the McCann support network. Besides, analyzing witness statements connected with the case of MBM's disappearance hardly constitutes stalking and/or harassment. You only need speak a hint of doubt about any aspect of this case and the word LIBEL resounds across the airwaves. What a load of rollox!

Ms Hutton frequently uses the 'Irish' in her to excuse her behaviour that many find unacceptable. No disrespect to the Irish as a people, I once worked with a young woman (single parent) of Irish origin who regularly used her young daughter (about eight years old) to lie for her, to answer the door and say mummy wasn't available when mummy was off doing something she didn't ough'ta. I also knew a grandmother of Irish origin who encouraged her granddaughter to keep quiet about the fact she (the granddaughter) was being sexually abused by her father. Who knows what goes on behind closed doors. It's utterly ridiculous to assume that all the earths inhabitants are squeaky clean just because it suits your purpose. More on this subject on the appropriate thread!

If I'm wrong and Ms Hutton has been actively involved with interviewing different people as part of the anticipated Poulton Productions documentary and thus has personal knowledge of the Smith family then I'll eat my words - providing washed down with a peppery Merlot!

ETA: *

by **Tony Bennett** 26.10.15 17:19

Update on police action re Roslinda Hutton and 'Andrew' and possible police action re Sonia Poulton:

1. In case there is any doubt anywhere, both the Crime Reference Numbers I gave out are correct

2. Just to be clear on another point, a Crime Reference Number is only ever given by police in cases where the informant (in this case myself) has provided sufficient information to the constabulary crime recording team that a criminal offence may have been committed

3. In the case of Hutton, the police gave me to understand that they ARE looking at the Malicious Communications Act and MAYBE also the Protection from Harassment Act

4. In the case of 'Andrew', the threat to kill apparently comes under the Public Order Acts, but the police are also looking at his previous history of stalking and harassment, e.g. 'phone calls in the middle of the night and threats to visit me and 'sort me out'

5. There was a reference to a police 'warning' being given to Hutton. It is customary for many first-time internet offenders and other relatively minor offences to be dealt with by a 'formal warning'. This must be distinguished from a 'police caution'

6. This is what was given to Ian West of Norwich ('muratfan') two years ago after I (and one other person form Norfolk) finally reported him to police for a four-year campaign of the most vile vilification of me on the internet. It succeeded (more or less) in calming him down

7. A 'police caution' is the formal admission in writing that you have committed a crime and therefore becomes part of your criminal record. It avoids the matter being dealt with in the criminal courts. A recent example concerned the conviction earlier this year of ex-Bishop Peter Ball, a serial sex offender against young boys. In 1991, when his crimes were investigated, his friends Prince Charles, the then Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey and many other high-up establishment friends prevailed on the police and the CPS to drop the charges against him in exchange for his signing a police caution

8. My understanding is that in a case of a breach of the Malicious Communications Act, such as is alleged in Hutton's case, the police will not normally prosecute but will offer the offender the opportunity to take down the offending material, ask him/her to desist, and get them to accept in writing a formal warning, which is recorded but does not give you a criminal record as such. It is usually accompanied by a clear warning by the police that any repetition will result in prosecution

9. The course of conduct followed by 'Andrew' and partly by Hutton in the past year has been on the internet forum owned by 'candyfloss'. The police have the details of the forum and access to its contents and it is likely that they will be looking at the role of that forum as part of their enquiries

10. A very nice lady from Victim Support called me this afternoon in relation to the death threat matter.

SONIA POULTON

A matter of great interest to Sonia Poulton-watchers will take place on Wednesday (28 October) in Wrexham Magistrates Court, where a long-time friend and associate of Sonia Poulton, Royden James Jones, faces charges under the Malicious Communications Act. There is expected to be a sizeable attendance by some of Jones's many victims, some of whom of course are witnesses in the case.

This is mainly, so I understand, in relation to his conduct in running the 'Troll Hunter' blog, with which Sonia Poulton is reported to be connected. She is alleged Admin on this or a related 'troll-hunting' blog - indeed a screen-shot apparently exists to prove this.

It is widely known that Jones is involved in creating fake accounts in the name of people he was targeting. Associated with Royden James Jones and Sonia Poulton at 'Troll Hunter' is a man called 'Haydon', who appears alongside Poulton and her boyfriend Lee Taylor Ryan and former CMOMM member Ann-Kristine Westwood in a photo of five people who attended Brenda Leyland's inquest.

It is understood that both Poulton and Haydon are being investigated by police - possibly by two police forces - in connection with alleged breaches of the Malicious Communications Act. This may be partly connected with Poulton and her boyfriend Ryan being connected with the 'Troll Patrol' blog.

So possibly both the leading ladies involved in the much-trumpeted 'Untold Story' are currently under police investigation for making malicious communications.

by **Jill Havern** 26.10.15 17:44

James Haydon, friend of Lee Ryan? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

by **Tony Bennett** 26.10.15 17:57

Get'emGonçalo wrote:James Haydon, friend of Lee Ryan? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Yes, James Noel Haydon, featured here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [pic of him here at Brenda Leyland's inquest: Sonia Poulton had James Noel Haydon on her right and Lee Taylor Ryan on her left]

and also here:

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by **Jill Havern** 26.10.15 18:05

Tony Bennett wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:James Haydon, friend of Lee Ryan? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Yes, James Noel Haydon, featured here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [pic of him here at Brenda Leyland's inquest: Sonia Poulton had James Noel Haydon on her right and Lee Taylor Ryan on her left]

and also here:

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James is a member of my CMOMM facebook group.....

by **Tony Bennett** 26.10.15 18:08

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:James Haydon, friend of Lee Ryan? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Yes, James Noel Haydon, featured here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [pic of him here at Brenda Leyland's inquest: Sonia Poulton had James Noel Haydon on her right and Lee Taylor Ryan on her left]

and also here:

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James is a member of my CMOMM facebook group...

I strongly suggest you get rid of him without any delay

by hentie 26.10.15 18:14

Thanks Tony for the update. My goodness, what a bunch they are!

Jill, thank you too. You put in a lot of hard work.

Hope things are resolved soon. It's not pleasant coming across the horrible allegations, I can't imagine what it's like for both of you.

by **Jill Havern** 26.10.15 18:19

Tony Bennett wrote:So possibly both the leading ladies involved in the much-trumpeted 'Untold Story' are currently under police investigation for making malicious communications.

does that mean there might be more delay?

by **Tony Bennett** 26.10.15 18:26

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:So possibly both the leading ladies involved in the much-trumpeted 'Untold Story' are currently under police investigation for making malicious communications.
does that mean there might be more delay?

I know, I know, heartbreaking isn't it? - after all the hurdles the poor lass has had to deal with for the past 13 months sarcastic

by **Jill Havern** 26.10.15 18:29

Tony Bennett wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:So possibly both the leading ladies involved in the much-trumpeted 'Untold Story' are currently under police investigation for making malicious communications.
does that mean there might be more delay?

I know, I know, heartbreaking isn't it? - after all the hurdles the poor lass has had to deal with for the past 13 months

Ah, never mind....Richard D. Hall's new documentary is coming out very soon isn't it? The 'told' version, that is!

by snook 26.10.15 18:35

Do you mean Richard's new film which will be a failure like his last ones? According to Ms Hutton that is. I saw Poulton blocking and crying smear! on twitter because someone had pointed out her connection to Jones.

by **Tony Bennett** 26.10.15 18:46

snook wrote:Do you mean Richard's new film which will be a failure like his last ones? According to Ms Hutton that is. I saw Poulton blocking and crying smear! on twitter because someone had pointed out her connection to Jones.

Poulton & Hutton is a double act...

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...responsible for that dreadful article in Rupert Murdoch's Sun: "I'm an anti-McCann bitch who gets a buzz out of attacking and squishing people"...

...and is now in further trouble and heading ever-downwards at the moment...

by snook 26.10.15 18:59

Couldn't happen to a nicer pair. Hutton in particular considering the way she has accused you, Tony of the most vile things.
I do suspect she is being egged on by Poulton. Look how she started accusing you of financial impropriety and doing deals with CR. I believe her campaign stepped up considerably since Poulton appeared on the scene.
I have to applaud the member in Jatyk who is going to contact broadcasters about her behaviour. Ifeel like doing the same myself. She thinks she's untouchable. If she is indeed being investigated and subsequently is charged watch Sky drop her like a hot brick.

by **Tony Bennett** 26.10.15 19:24

snook wrote:Couldn't happen to a nicer pair. Hutton in particular considering the way she has accused you, Tony of the most vile things.
I do suspect she is being egged on by Poulton. Look how she started accusing you of financial impropriety and doing deals with CR...

I'd forgotten those utterly insane allegations. I lost count of them all a long time ago

I believe her campaign stepped up considerably since Poulton appeared on the scene...

Poulton did damage to cause of the truth about Madeleine by presenting Stephen D Birch and Michael Shrimpton as having relevant information about Madeleine on Icke's 'People's TV'. The interview she did with Hutton didn't help matters either. There is a now-considerable body of evidence that the two have been in collusion on Madeleine McCann matters from the time of that interview onwards - and not in a good way for the truth

I have to applaud the member in Jatyk who is going to contact broadcasters about her behaviour. I feel like doing the same myself. She thinks she's untouchable. If she is indeed being investigated and subsequently is charged watch Sky drop her like a hot brick.

The people who run SKY News and the Sun have a very great deal to answer for on the matter of what may have happened to Madeleine McCann...and what DID happen to Brenda Leyland

by **Jill Havern** 26.10.15 20:19

snook wrote:Couldn't happen to a nicer pair. Hutton in particular considering the way she has accused you, Tony of the most vile things.
I do suspect she is being egged on by Poulton. Look how she started accusing you of financial impropriety and doing deals with CR. I believe her campaign stepped up considerably since Poulton appeared on the scene.
I have to applaud the member in Jatyk who is going to contact broadcasters about her behaviour. Ifeel like doing the same myself. She thinks she's untouchable. If she is indeed being investigated and subsequently is charged watch Sky drop her like a hot brick.

It's a Myths member, not a JATYK member:

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Re: Off their TROLLeys!
Postby tigerloaf » Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:43 pm

by Guest 26.10.15 20:29

The troll issue seems to be an overriding factor in many aspects on planet Poulton, none more so than in the case of Madeleine McCann, almost to the point of obsession. The liaison with Rosalinda Cristobell, Hutton doesn't help her cause one iota if this you tube video is anything to go by [please excuse the poor transcription, the sound is diabolical]..

Sonia Poulton

Tell me some of your unanswered questions.

Rosalinda Hutton

It's something I started delving into and erm.. so many things didn't make sense err.. that you know err starting to concentrate on the behaviour.. but it really is quite odd erm.. eh eh eh I studied psychology for more years than I care to remember .. but err (gurgle) .. nothing sort of adds up .. it it does and er er yer know it's as if the nation was divided .. er er er .. as if half was divided .. er er er .. as if half (gurgle gurgle) sort of how dare you .. and you know .. how cruel of you to that (not clear) grieving parents .. and you know .. you had this ferocious defence around them .. which sort of makes .. er .. gave birth really to the myth the hater and that (not clear) the pitchforker .. which is err .. a complete myth .. (not clear) the people that I.. I .. discuss the case with on-line on (not clear) for example or the face book groups.. you know that .. that.. that behaviour simply isn't tolerated .. not by anyone, not by myself or not by the (not clear)..

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If this is an example of the 'Untold Story of Madeleine McCann' I suggest some serious editing is in order. Still I look forward to the final product, although as time passes it seems less and less likely it will ever materialize - indeed I'm beginning to doubt it progressed much beyond October 2014, maybe a sort of phishing exercise? The vital ingredients of a documentary claiming to expose a previously untold story I expect to be fact, accuracy and compelling interest - the above covers none of these elements.

by snook 26.10.15 20:54

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
snook wrote:Couldn't happen to a nicer pair. Hutton in particular considering the way she has accused you, Tony of the most vile things.
I do suspect she is being egged on by Poulton. Look how she started accusing you of financial impropriety and doing deals with CR. I believe her campaign stepped up considerably since Poulton appeared on the scene.
I have to applaud the member in Jatyk who is going to contact broadcasters about her behaviour. Ifeel like doing the same myself. She thinks she's untouchable. If she is indeed being investigated and subsequently is charged watch Sky drop her like a hot brick.
It's a Myths member, not a JATYK member:

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Re: Off their TROLLeys!
Postby tigerloaf » Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:43 pm

Beg pardon, I read it on JATYK. blushing1

by aiyoyo 26.10.15 21:25

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:So possibly both the leading ladies involved in the much-trumpeted 'Untold Story' are currently under police investigation for making malicious communications.
does that mean there might be more delay?

Just thinking aloud -
If "troll hunting" team is involved in the tracing, hacking and tracking of IPs to out people for use in the documentary, there will be serious implications for the maker/s of the "untold story".

IIRC SP said it is legal to track down people (something like that, not verbatim), and that was red flag for me how it can be possible to be legal to track down so called "trolls" and out "them", when even police cannot legitimately trace IPs without first having obtained a court order to order Internet Provider to cooperate.

I think the documentary has bite the dust ......even before it get started...
Cry wolf too often.....
No mainstream will touch it with a barge pole..
Their claim of question of right timing is just wishful thinking, me thinks.

by Ayniia 26.10.15 21:53

Well some of the old folks here know me... I tend to get very passionate about this case so I come here and try to contribute until I can't take it more emotionally, then I'm back again. I can't really believe this soap opera is still going on!!! pop2

Sorry for the little OT.

by Joss 27.10.15 2:06

Ayniia wrote:Well some of the old folks here know me... I tend to get very passionate about this case so I come here and try to contribute until I can't take it more emotionally, then I'm back again. I can't really believe this soap opera is still going on!!!
Sorry for the little OT.

I don't think its a soap opera, more like an Agenda, IMO.

by **Jill Havern** 27.10.15 7:41

Joss wrote:
Ayniia wrote:Well some of the old folks here know me... I tend to get very passionate about this case so I come here and try to contribute until I can't take it more emotionally, then I'm back again. I can't really believe this soap opera is still going on!!!
Sorry for the little OT.
I don't think its a soap opera, more like an Agenda, IMO.

Some of the members on MMM are more concerned that a couple of links to JATYK and Stop the Myths have been posted here (which, to them, means CMOMM are going to merge with the pro's, therefore CMOMM has an agenda) than they are of the doorstepping of Kate McCann by Sonia Poulton and at least 2 cameramen; Sonia's "Untold" Madeleine documentary that never materialises; Sonia's friendship with the gun-toting Lee Ryan; Sonia's possible association with the 'Troll-hunter' and/or 'Troll Patrol' blogs; possible police investigations of Sonia Poulton and two of her associates (according to TB's post on page 35 of this thread); the Sun article in which Hutton admitted to being a vile troll; and the impending police action of Ms Hutton for calling TB a kiddi-fiddler on twitter and publishing comments on her blog calling TB a paedophile; and police action of Hutton's fellow forum member, Andrew who has admitted on Hutton's blog that he phoned TB several times at night, one of the calls being that he issued a death threat.

And so on.

And we're the one's who've got an agenda to stop the truth coming out?

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Meanwhile, CMOMM member, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is about to release his 3rd 'Madeleine' documentary without the need for teaser trailers, fanfares and flutes.

There's a section on this forum dedicated to Richard's work:

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by hentie 27.10.15 7:53

Gerry had the agenda, remember the white board. Confusion is good he said.
The agenda surrounding Madeleine has been like no other.

The only agenda CMOMM has had is the search for the truth as shown by the excellent research by its members.

MMM has shown backing/agenda for what? Oh yes, those who slur, make threats, etc.

I know the agenda I'd rather follow!

by Joss 27.10.15 10:09

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
Joss wrote:
Ayniia wrote:Well some of the old folks here know me... I tend to get very passionate about this case so I come here and try to contribute until I can't take it more emotionally, then I'm back again. I can't really believe this soap opera is still going on!!!
Sorry for the little OT.
I don't think its a soap opera, more like an Agenda, IMO.
Some of the members on MMM are more concerned that a couple of links to JATYK and Stop the Myths have been posted here (which, to them, means CMOMM are going to merge with the pro's, therefore CMOMM has an agenda) than they are of the doorstepping of Kate McCann by Sonia Poulton and at least 2 cameramen; Sonia's "Untold" Madeleine documentary that never materialises; Sonia's friendship with the gun-toting Lee Ryan; Sonia's possible association with the 'Troll-hunter' and/or 'Troll Patrol' blogs; possible police investigations of Sonia Poulton and two of her associates (according to TB's post on page 35 of this thread); the Sun article in which Hutton admitted to being a vile troll; and the impending police action of Ms Hutton for calling TB a kiddi-fiddler on twitter and publishing comments on her blog calling TB a paedophile; and police action of Hutton's fellow forum member, Andrew who has admitted on Hutton's blog that he phoned TB several times at night, one of the calls being that he issued a death threat.

And so on.

And we're the one's who've got an agenda to stop the truth coming out?

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Meanwhile, CMOMM member, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is about to release his 3rd 'Madeleine' documentary without the need for teaser trailers, fanfares and flutes.

There's a section on this forum dedicated to Richard's work:

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Thanks GEC for posting the link to Richard Hall's work, he has done an excellent job with it all.
As far as the ramblings of those at MMM, it is a pity they have to resort to the tactics they do, because it doesn't help their cause at all IMO, whatever that is actually i have no idea? And i certainly don't see any "gloating" on this forum about all the nonsense that has gone on in the name of a missing child. And i'm sure that no one regardless of what forum they post on should have to put up with death threats or being wrongfully labelled a paedophile. Can they not grasp that concept i wonder? It is as it states by law, "Malicious" behaviour and it really needs to stop.

by Joss 27.10.15 10:22

Not sure if this has been posted before but will put it here

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Poulton's Pranks

However there is an aspect of Poulton's heinous prank which leaves one to ponder.

Brenda Leyland was a victim of the McCanns, Brunt, Jim Gamble, Summer's and Swann, the nasty online vigilantes, Clarence Mitchell, and backed financially by Murdoch, in their door stepping of this lady, the wrong accusations which they made against her. Sky News with a rolling report shown, what was it, every half hour or so? And Sky also producing, fronted by Martin Brunt, the most vicious and malicious 'Brunt Report' where again this lady Brenda Leyland was attacked by them. Without question, the actions of these people collectively, with Lorraine Kelly, and Carole Malone adding their nasty tuppenceworth into the mix, was a contributory factor in this lady taking her own life. There is no question that they contributed to the tragedy.

Sonia Poulton, since the time she announced that she had door stepped the McCann home, has appeared on Sky News several times. Being paid for same. Bizarrely, she comments on subjects (medical conditions included) which she clearly has no expertise. That said, she like everyone else is entitled to their opinion on any matter. And Sky are free to pay whomever they wish to comment on whatever they wish whether that person has any knowledge on the subject or not!
To most of us that is strange, but what is more strange, is that Sky the financial backer and producer of the attack on Brenda Leyland, supporter of McCanns, should employ Poulton, when they absolutely must know of her door stepping of the McCann family and her intention to publish that which she did today, the video clip of her doing exactly that!