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Post by PeterMac on Mon 22 Jun - 15:01

This is going round Twitter at the moment.

Isabelle Maria McF ‏@QUEENdePORTUGAL 15h15 hours ago
I've spoken to APCD and PJ there isnt a child missing from PT named Ricardo Firmino. #mccann http://www.ap-cd.pt pic.twitter.com/ghABYQLmuB

might be a stalker ‏@__StuartB__ 6h6 hours ago
@QUEENdePORTUGAL what the.... So an invented @missingpeople missing child, who was "found" when people queried the report? #McCann

Canine Truth ‏@K9Truth 6h6 hours ago
@__StuartB__ @QUEENdePORTUGAL @missingpeople The alleged missing child was also flagged on http://missingkids.co.uk , a CEOP site ...
#McCann

amsterdamkush ‏@amsterdamkush 4h4 hours ago
@K9Truth @__StuartB__ @QUEENdePORTUGAL @missingpeople This is demonstrably fake. No trace of him on web apart from CEOP/MissingKids #mccann

So I contacted someone in Portugal who reported - redacted,
Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 18:15:30 +0100
Subject: Re: Ricardo Firmino - Your reference number 15-000727

Well I have just checked out a few of the kids, and some are clearly 'missing' and you can find references to them online

Now, in the case of this little boy, I went here:
http://uk.missingkids.com/missing/
and then put "overseas" in the box
and came up with only five children
Madeleine McC being one,
Ben Needham being another
then a little girl called
Maria-Brigitte Henselmann
​masses of references to her online... then
Katrice Lee
​again, zillions of mentions (heartbreaking)
so Ricardo is the ONLY one that has not got a whiff of publicity.
It's weird and i wonder, from the timeline, whether it is a 'red herring' to kind of show children are still going missing in Portugal... ​
And later

I checked with the Association of missing children here, and the president told me they have no record of him at all

It is a hoax, with no details, no press reports, nothing

Maria also tweeted as much some weeks ago

Can we really believe that people would stoop so low . . . to pretend that children are being abducted or going missing in Portugal ?
And that CEOPS would be involved, either deliberately or putting this on line, with a photo of a child, without checking facts . . .
In the case of some we have unfortunately come across over the past 8 years - clearly yes. And we can name them.


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Post by Get'emGonçalo on Mon 22 Jun - 15:26

Have posted this on CMOMM facebook and there's a couple of comments there so far:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/JillHavernCompleteMysteryofMadeleineMcCann/permalink/1641165519461268/
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Post by tigger on Mon 22 Jun - 15:28

Isabel McFadden apparently speaks Portuguese and when she first came across the missing child, she simply phoned the PJ.  She did post a tweet longer with the part of the conversation about this child.
Name of officer she spoke with.

I'd also be interested to find out where those ten children found thanks to Kate's supertweet were mislaid in the first place.

Such a shame,  these missing children charities ready to save anyone under 88 it seems (some children listed disappeared in the distant past) and simply not enough of them.

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Post by Joss on Mon 22 Jun - 15:34

CEOP 's page of missing children do not include Maddie #McCann https://www.facebook.com/groups/jkjoannekilcoyne/?ref=bookmarks …

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The non-missing Ricardo is still there

Post by PeterMac on Mon 22 Jun - 16:18

http://uk.missingkids.com/missing/
then sort by age and you get
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Seems they are having problems !

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Post by Joss on Mon 22 Jun - 16:21

PeterMac wrote:http://uk.missingkids.com/missing/
then sort by age and you get
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Seems they are having problems !
Hmmm...

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on Mon 22 Jun - 16:28

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Post by Doug D on Mon 22 Jun - 17:40

PeterMac:
 
‘Seems they are having problems !’
 
What about today’s 140, and the day befores and the day before thats and, and, and, ad infinitum……………..???????????????


What do you mean 'they're not actually missing'?


I thought she who should be listened to said they 'lost' that many every day. That's why we need to raise more money for the 'Amber Alert' type system which was used ONCE in the last 12 months, erroneously, for a girl who wandered home on her own when she felt like it.

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Post by aquila on Mon 22 Jun - 18:56

I just googled Ricardo Firmino and it brought up a link to the following:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6034.0


According to a poster on the above forum Ricardo has been found.

Sorry, I'm hopeless at inserting screenshots so if someone could do the honours...
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Post by PeterMac on Mon 22 Jun - 20:13

aquila wrote:I just googled Ricardo Firmino and it brought up a link to the following:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6034.0
According to a poster on the above forum Ricardo has been found.
Sorry, I'm hopeless at inserting screenshots so if someone could do the honours...

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It was CEOP in a private Email to an enquiry, saying he had been found.

No details, no trumpeting the wonders of £ 2m per annum Charities - FOUND ANOTHER ONE< PLEASE GIVE GENEROUSLY. . .

No. Just the very strange CEOPS saying on a private individual email to ONE person that he had been found.
No one in Portugal seems to know anything about him, not the PJ not the Portuguese missing children network, not the local press , Nobody.
No one else anywhere knows anything about him.

And of course, as I posted a few hours ago, on the missingkids site he is still there, just above Madeleine,
They haven't a CLUE !    
I think we can would be well advised to ignore everything Missing People, Missingkids (who have people in their 70s on the site !) PACT, CEOPS and all the rest of the vampires who suck money out of the gullible have to say about anything at all.  Which by extension means we should ignore their Ambassadors and everything they do or say.

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Post by aquila on Mon 22 Jun - 20:49

PeterMac wrote:
aquila wrote:I just googled Ricardo Firmino and it brought up a link to the following:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6034.0
According to a poster on the above forum Ricardo has been found.
Sorry, I'm hopeless at inserting screenshots so if someone could do the honours...

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It was CEOP in a private Email to an enquiry, saying he had been found.

No details, no trumpeting the wonders of £ 2m per annum Charities - FOUND ANOTHER ONE< PLEASE GIVE GENEROUSLY. . .

No. Just the very strange CEOPS saying on a private individual email to ONE person that he had been found.
No one in Portugal seems to know anything about him, not the PJ not the Portuguese missing children network, not the local press , Nobody.
No one else anywhere knows anything about him.

And of course, as I posted a few hours ago, on the missingkids site he is still there, just above Madeleine,
They haven't a CLUE !    

I think we can would be well advised to ignore everything Missing People, Missingkids (who have people in their 70s on the site !) PACT, CEOPS and all the rest of the vampires who suck money out of the gullible have to say about anything at all.  Which by extension means we should ignore their Ambassadors and everything they do or say.  
Thanks for posting the screenshot PeterMac.

Your opinion echoes mine.
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Post by sallypelt on Mon 22 Jun - 20:54

When did they say he went missing? I read he went missing around 24 December, but I have also found this:

Ricardo Firmino (11) missing since 2nd January 2015
« on: February 10, 2015, 05:38:01 PM »

Ricardo Firmino aged 11 years missing abroad. Ref:15-000727


If you think you can help the search please call Missing People. Ricardo Firmino, we would love to hear from you.

Call. Text. Anytime. Free. Confidential. 116000

Information about this child - Missing Kids UK www.missingkids.co.uk/15-000727

Download poster below.


And on the missing children website he's missing from "overseas".

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Post by sallypelt on Mon 22 Jun - 20:56

So, a twelve year old child goes missing. No one knows where he's from, who his parents are. Where he went missing from, other than "overseas". And now he's been found, still NOTHING

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Post by notlongnow on Mon 22 Jun - 22:05

Indeed,surely it should have at least said,what location,last seen in his local food store,wearing red jumper and blue jeans etc etc..

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Post by lj on Tue 23 Jun - 1:05

sallypelt wrote:So, a twelve year old child goes missing. No one knows where he's from, who his parents are. Where he went missing from, other than "overseas". And now he's been found, still NOTHING


You wonder is this one of the 10 kids Kate "saved"?

It's all a big scam.

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Post by BlueBag on Tue 23 Jun - 7:48

MP seems to be about appearance more than content.

Accuracy?

Pah.

That's so yesterday.
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Is this another one St Katherine of the Multiple Immaculate Conceptions saved ?

Post by PeterMac on Tue 23 Jun - 7:51

http://www.missingkids.co.uk/12-000445

two screen shots, some time apart . . . !

Same name, and crucially same reference number.

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A Charity in whom we can really have confidence  !
Please give generously.  We need to put the CEO's salary up next year, by another £10,000

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Post by tigger on Tue 23 Jun - 8:06

The  great majority of the children reported 'missing'  are known to be with one of their parents. 

Maddie  McCann was listed on MP as missing from 'unknown' iirc . Perhaps they've worked it out by now.


Nan Chen's changed appearance is amazing, but clearly MP saw through his disguise. big grin
But errm 'if you see this child?'

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Post by aquila on Tue 23 Jun - 8:16

PeterMac wrote:http://www.missingkids.co.uk/12-000445

two screen shots, some time apart . . . !

Same name, and crucially same reference number.

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A Charity in whom we can really have confidence  !
Please give generously.  We need to put the CEO's salary up next year, by another £10,000
missbeetle will have a field day looking at the images in the spectacles of both photographs.

The first insertion on Missing Kids was the middle aged man.

The second insertion was a teenager wearing over-sized sunglasses.

You really couldn't make this stuff up....oh, but they did.
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Post by Rogue-a-Tory on Tue 23 Jun - 9:02

tigger wrote:The  great majority of the children reported 'missing'  are known to be with one of their parents. 

Maddie  McCann was listed on MP as missing from 'unknown' iirc . Perhaps they've worked it out by now.
I've worked out the possible link between those two sentences thumbsup
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Post by HelenMeg on Tue 23 Jun - 9:05

Since 2007 it has been lie after lie after lie

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Post by PeterMac on Tue 23 Jun - 9:09

Rogue-a-Tory wrote:
tigger wrote:The  great majority of the children reported 'missing'  are known to be with one of their parents. 

Maddie  McCann was listed on MP as missing from 'unknown' iirc . Perhaps they've worked it out by now.
I've worked out the possible link between those two sentences thumbsup

On one of the sites they have the decency to say so. Thee children are not MISSING in any conventional sense.
Just as the children sought by PACT are not "abducted" in the normal meaning of the word.
Lady Whatshername lost custody, and wants her children back. (We may or may not agree with her point of view, since the children are being brought up as Muslims)
That is all. So she claims a salary of £ 83,000 a year
It is a branch of Public International law (aka Conflict of Laws). Not of Child abduction.

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Post by Rogue-a-Tory on Tue 23 Jun - 9:21

PeterMac wrote:
Rogue-a-Tory wrote:
tigger wrote:The  great majority of the children reported 'missing'  are known to be with one of their parents. 

Maddie  McCann was listed on MP as missing from 'unknown' iirc . Perhaps they've worked it out by now.
I've worked out the possible link between those two sentences thumbsup

On one of the sites they have the decency to say so.  Thee children are not MISSING in any conventional sense.
Just as the children sought by PACT are not "abducted" in the normal meaning of the word.
Lady Whatshername lost custody, and wants her children back.   (We may or may not agree with her point of view, since the children are being brought up as Muslims)
That is all.   So she claims a salary of £ 83,000 a year
It is a branch of Public International law (aka Conflict of Laws). Not of Child abduction.
And the Charity is run under the pretence of looking for the runaways or abducted, supported by the B listers. The world just became that little bit weirder.
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Post by tigger on Tue 23 Jun - 11:39

Just found this website - http://www.wearenotmissing.com/missingchildfraud.htm

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Total Disarray

Post by PeterMac on Tue 23 Jun - 13:03

All these Charities and sites seem to be in total disarray
If we look at Missing kids we find this
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and if we look further we find on the last page sorted by age
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Does anyone else spot the irony here . . .?

If we search the Missing Children site and enter Portugal
thus
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we get TWO results
BOTH of them Madeleine
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Ricardo has been "whooshed" apparently, though he still appears on other sites
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Can we believe ANYTHING these people tell us ?
Or do we just keep donating money and pedalling round the world to pay for their salaries.

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