Met Police (Operation Grange) - Bollocks or not bollocks?

'The last throw of the dice' being traffickers is such a load of dung.

Neither the PJ or SY have said they are investigating that. No direct statements or quotes from them what so ever! They are said to be working together, the met. 'WAS SAID to be briefing whitehall' about traffickers.

In 2014 a mother said she had contacted Op. Grange about some people she saw and thought might be child traffickers, so in 2016 that is turned into SY's last throw of the dice.

 It must be true because an unidentified source said it was 

Bollocks.

No longer any doubt.

From The Sun:
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]are considering two pooled interviews in Britain, one for print through the country’s national agency Press Association and one for broadcasters.
Both are being organised through Scotland Yard, Mitchell explained. He said: “There will be no fee.”

Absolute 100% certified bollocks.

This has to be something to do with protecting the establishment.

Has to be.

Ludicrous springs to mind!

Ever had the feeling you're being taken for a mug?

When they frist televised this on crimewatch (?) a few yaers back, remember the one where the revelation moment was discovery of the fact that Tannerman had been located and even gave his chinos to the investigating team. I telephoned the hotline number and advised to operator that surely now the whole world must acknowledge that this group are nothing but a pack of lying bastrads. This is the man that Jane tanner saw and chose not to say anything about it until the next day. What complete tripe, nobody is going to believe that one so decision has to be bollocks.

How or Why are Police Officers Operating on Operation Grange allowing Clarence Mitchell to comment on"Briefing statements"in relation to the tenth Anniversary of missing Madeleine McCann,remit Abduction,where this person has connections to the Parents and is a paid Consultant,close cohort to Two former Prime Ministers and connections to MI 5,the s**m,Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks and the Freud Family?

I was just looking to see if the Met Police has recently updated the status of Operation Grange - it hasn't.     I was however reminded of their last update published on 28th October 2015, for anyone that still thinks Operation Grange are the real deal (remember, this is included in the news release)..
 
Mr and Mrs McCann said: "We would like to thank all the staff from Operation Grange for the meticulous and painstaking work that they have carried out over the last four and a half years. The scale and difficulty of their task has never been in doubt.

"We are reassured that the investigation to find Madeleine has been significantly progressed and the MPS has a much clearer picture of the events in Praia da Luz leading up to Madeleine's abduction in 2007.

"Given that the review phase of the investigation is essentially completed, we fully understand the reasons why the team is being reduced.

"We would also like to thank the Home Office for continuing to support the investigation.

"Whilst we do not know what happened to Madeleine, we remain hopeful that she may still be found given the ongoing lines of enquiry. "

The remaining Operation Grange officers will be deployed to other enquiries within Specialist Crime and Operations.

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The document is worth another read, I've just plucked that bit because it pretty well confirms that the parents McCann are not under suspicion - at least not through the eyes of Operation Grange.  Not pasting the whole document because the Metopolitan Police are very covetous about their public statements.

 

They appear to have overlooked vital evidence..

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Grange is a £12 million coat of whitewash.

Mr and Mrs McCann said: "Whilst we do not know what happened to Madeleine,........"
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Even I 'know' what 'happened' to Madeleine!

'Madeleine WAS abducted'..... wasn't she?

('Farter Cluck', the UK's 'most fearsome' libel lawyers, will BACK me up 'on that', won't they?)

I 'know' that, 'Madeleine WAS abducted', because the McCan'ts have TOLD me 'THAT'!

NO 'respectable parent' of a really 'abducted' child, would ever dream of 'lying' about 'that'....would they?

Phoebe wrote:Grange is a £12 million coat of whitewash.

Trouble is whitewash has a nasty habit of washing off in continuous very heavy rain .

Over six years ago in May 2011, whilst the McCanns were frantically promoting Kate McCann's autobiographical novel, Gerry McCann became very vocal about the absence of any pro-activity in the search for their missing daughter Madeleine.  During an interview, he robustly proposed that the UK authorities take on the function of coordinating and reviewing all documentation relating to Madeleine's disappearance.  This was the result..

Letter from Gerry and Kate McCann to David Cameron, Prime Minister

Dear Prime Minister,

As a devoted father and family man, you know the importance of children. Our beloved eldest child, Madeleine, was abducted from Praia da Luz, Portugal, four years ago. Since then, we have devoted all our energies to ensuring her safe return.

Today we are asking you - and the British and Portuguese governments - to help find Madeleine and bring her back to her loving family.

We live in hope that Madeleine will be found alive and returned to us. One call might be all that is needed to lead to Madeleine and her abductor.

To this end, we are seeking a joint INDEPENDENT, TRANSPARENT and COMPREHENSIVE review of ALL information held in relation to Madeleine's disappearance. Thus far, there has been NO formal review of the material held by the police authorities - which is routine practice in most major unsolved crimes.

 It is not right that a young vulnerable British citizen has essentially been given up on. This remains an unsolved case of a missing child. Children are our most precious gift.

Please don't give up on Madeleine.

Kate & Gerry McCann

David Cameron's reply to Gerry and Kate McCann

Dear Kate and Gerry,

Thank you for your heartfelt and moving letter. Your ordeal is every parent's worst nightmare and my heart goes out to you both. I simply cannot imagine the pain you must have experienced over these four agonising years, and the strength and determination you have both shown throughout is remarkable.

I am acutely aware of the frustration you must feel as more time goes by and yet no news is forthcoming. We discussed this when we met, but I realise that a further eighteen months have gone by since then. That you have been so courageous over all this time, and have not given up, speaks volumes.

I have asked the Home Secretary to look into what more the Government could do to help Madeleine. She will be writing to you today, setting out new action involving the Metropolitan Police Service which we hope will help boost efforts in the search for Madeleine. I sincerely hope this fresh approach will provide the investigation with the new momentum that it needs.

I know that everyone hopes and prays for a successful outcome, and our thoughts remain with you and your family. We will, of course, stay in close touch with you throughout.

Yours,

David

Well Messrs McCann you've had your day, you got what you wanted - a full blown review/investigation into the mystery of your child's disappearance by the world's finest, Scotland Yard in the form of Operation Grange.  Over six years of painstaking work and still working quietly in the background - at the tax payers expense, not pro-bono like some of your other adherents.  So what's next Mr and Mrs McCann?

What a pity 10 Downing Street doesn't see fit to respond to communications sent to the Prime Minister in the quest of justice for little Madeleine McCann in the same way - a personal letter signed 'Yours, David' (in present day 'Yours Theresa' - or even just a respectful answer!

'David Cameron's spokeswoman said: "The prime minister met Kate and Gerry McCann while he was leader of the opposition, and he has followed their plight very closely.'

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To this end, we are seeking a joint INDEPENDENT, TRANSPARENT and COMPREHENSIVE review of ALL information held in relation to Madeleine's disappearance. Thus far, there has been NO formal review of the material held by the police authorities - which is routine practice in most major unsolved crimes.

I had forgotten that statement [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].  I'll write to my MP regarding Operation Grange and Colin Sutton's recent revelations.

My Tory MP is a 'man of the people' and he has never failed to get a response for me regarding CSA or Madeleine. 

I'll let Admin know if I get a response.

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To this end, we are seeking a joint INDEPENDENT, TRANSPARENT and COMPREHENSIVE review of ALL information held in relation to Madeleine's disappearance. Thus far, there has been NO formal review of the material held by the police authorities - which is routine practice in most major unsolved crimes.

I had forgotten that statement [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].  I'll write to my MP regarding Operation Grange and Colin Sutton's recent revelations.

My Tory MP is a 'man of the people' and he has never failed to get a response for me regarding CSA or Madeleine. 

I'll let Admin know if I get a response.

It's a corker isn't it?

What a relief to hear that at least someone in the UK establishment is taking Madeleine McCann's disappearance seriously - or at least taking your concerns seriously.  I think I can say without fear of contradiction, Admin will welcome any positive development that you, or anyone else, can generate - as will all genuine members of CMoMM.

Your indefatigable diligence is invaluable - I applaud and thank you.

I've seen it said so many times in the past that the UK governments intervention in the case was most likely a public relations exercise, to enhance their image as a caring government (never agreed with it myself) and that they very swiftly backed off once the McCanns were made arguidos.

Well, the correspondence interchange between the former Prime Minister, David Cameron and the McCanns was in May 2011 - that's four years after Madeleine's disappearance was reported.  Doesn't sound much like they ditched the McCanns to me, indeed the Home Secretary in March 2017 approved a further injection of cash to Operation Grange to continue their investigation until late summer.
 
Now let me see, that's - Tony Blair, Cherie Blair, Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Theresa May and Amber Rudd - all at some stage between May 2007 and March 2017 directly involved with the parents McCann and the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance.

Bang goes another theory!

Yes, this is an establishment thing. The sheer scale of the protection they have had is staggering.

What on earth is it really about?

BlueBag wrote:What on earth is it really about?

I think the answer to that perhaps lies in your follow-up post..

"David Payne has some information that needs reviewing as well."

Whilst on the subject - so do Eddie and Keela!

Verdi wrote:

BlueBag wrote:What on earth is it really about?

I think the answer to that perhaps lies in your follow-up post..

"David Payne has some information that needs reviewing as well."

Whilst on the subject - so do Eddie and Keela!

Ask the Dogs Sandra?
Hi Verdi,I do not know if you have watched the BBC programme,"The Met" and what these Police Officers face on any day of the week?
There is No doubt that these Police Officers are putting themselves in dangerous violent situations in trying to,"Serve And Protect"the public.
Seriously,what i cannot grasp or comprehend,is to see these same Police Officers,associated to what Assistant Metropolitan Police Commander Mark Rowley has stated on public Record in relation to Operation Grange?
There is only One Metropolitan Police Service,serving the London Boroughs isn't there,Not an A or B team?

willowthewisp wrote:

Verdi wrote:

BlueBag wrote:What on earth is it really about?

I think the answer to that perhaps lies in your follow-up post..

"David Payne has some information that needs reviewing as well."

Whilst on the subject - so do Eddie and Keela!

Ask the Dogs Sandra?
Hi Verdi,I do not know if you have watched the BBC programme,"The Met" and what these Police Officers face on any day of the week?
There is No doubt that these Police Officers are putting themselves in dangerous violent situations in trying to,"Serve And Protect"the public.
Seriously,what i cannot grasp or comprehend,is to see these same Police Officers,associated to what Assistant Metropolitan Police Commander Mark Rowley has stated on public Record in relation to Operation Grange?
There is only One Metropolitan Police Service,serving the London Boroughs isn't there,Not an A or B team?

No willowthewisp, I haven't seen the BBC programme but I am nonetheless aware of the trials and tribulations faced every day by London coppers.  I used to work in London so I'm no stranger to the problems they face.

Not only do they have to contend with the dangers of street life but they have to defend their position when faced with internal inquiries because some criminal makes false accusations, or a criminals family member makes an official complaint - just like the position Goncalo Amaral found himself in. 

They can't win!  The police force should be recognised and applauded for their dedication, not victimised.  They are not all corrupt.

"What we sought to do is try and draw everything back to zero," said Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood. "Try and take everything back to the beginning and re-analyse and reassess everything, accepting nothing."

Selective analysis is a very bias approach to policing DCI Andy Redwood..

15 Processos Vol XV Page 4024

Fax (in English)

From: Ricardo Paiva

Sent: 16th January 2008, 17.52

To: Prior Stuart

Subject: Madeleine McCann's Investigation

Hello, Stuart,

After a meeting with the Director, Mr Paolo Rebelo where this matter was discussed, we kindly request to your police, the following procedures:

- re-interview PAUL GORDON and show him GAIL COOPER'S sketch;

- re-interview GAIL COOPER, regarding the following points:

- if she formally confirms her statement given to Brian Kennedy?

- If she still confirms her previous statement given to the police back in the 21st of May, she hasn't referred that she has seen the same man two days later at the beach near the RESTAURANT PARAISO, standing near the Mark Warner's children?

- interview JOHN COOPER (GAIL'S husband) in order to confirm her statement, specially regarding the fact that they had seen the same man two days later at the beach near the RESTAURANT PARAISO standing near the Mark Warner's children.

- Interview LINDA SIMMS and show him GAIL COOPER'S sketch;

- Interview ALFRED SCHUURMANS and ask him if his friend, who's 12 years old daughter had spotted on several occasions ?a strange man lurking around the apartments? is GORDON SILLENCE and the daughter TASMIN MILBURN SILLENCE:

Best regards

Ricardo Paiva

I note in 15_VOLUME-XVa_Page_3972 of the PJ: McCann Files that Alfred Schuurmans "confirmed that his friend had owned the apartment next to 5A at the Mark Warner Resort" (my bold and underline).

He is referring to Gordon Sillence, whose daughter is Tasmin Milburn Sillence.

Tasmin claimed that her grandmother used to own the apartment where Madeleine disappeared from, and that she had spent a lot of time in apartment 5A (see pp. 800-805 of PJ files). Did her father own 5B and her grandmother own 5A? Or is it just an error?

Ex-DCI Andy Redwood of the Yard, actively promoted the dubious work of Oakley International, at the time headed by criminal mastermind Kevin Halligan [sic] and his side kick ex-MI5 undercover operations expert Henri Exton.

A free-thinking independent Portuguese journalistic perspective..

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It turns out that Kate and Gerry McCann suppressed for five years ‘critical evidence’ that became the centerpiece of the recent BBC Crimewatch program on the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine.

Findings by ex-MI5 agents long kept under wraps by the McCanns included the two e-fit images described in the Crimwatch program by Scotland Yard’s Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood as of “vital importance.”

The images are of a suspected kidnapper seen by an Irish family in Praia da Luz the night Madeleine went missing.
They were given to the McCanns by a handpicked team of investigators from Oakley International hired by the McCanns’ “Find Madeleine Fund” in 2008.

Henri Exton, an MI5’s former undercover operations chief who led the team, told the Sunday Times he was “utterly stunned” when he watched the Crimewatch program and saw the evidence he had passed to the McCanns presented as a new breakthrough.
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Efit images of the man who police want
to contact over the 2007 disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal.

He said the fund had silenced his team with a lawyer’s letter binding them to the confidentiality of a report they had compiled that contained controversial findings. Mr. Exton said the legal threat had prevented them from handing over the report to Scotland Yard’s investigation until detectives had obtained written permission from the fund.

The Oakley International report, delivered in November 2008, gave little credibility to Jane Tanner’s 9.15pm sighting and focused instead on the 10pm sighting by the Irish Smith family. The investigators recommended that their e-fit images be released without delay.

For some reason the images were not published even in Kate McCann’s 2011 book Madeleine, though it devoted a whole section to eight “key sightings” and carried e-fits on all of them except the Smiths’.

In its Insight report, the Sunday Times quoted one of the Oakley International investigators as saying: “I was absolutely stunned when I watched the program . . . It most certainly wasn’t a new timeline and it certainly isn’t a new revelation. It is absolute nonsense to suggest either of those things . . . And those e-fits you saw on Crimewatch are ours.”

The hushed-up report is said to have questioned parts of the McCanns’ evidence, contained sensitive information about Madeleine’s sleeping patterns and raised the highly sensitive possibility that she could have died in an accident after leaving the apartment herself from one of two unsecured doors.

The Sunday Times quoted a source close to the Find Madeleine Fund as saying the report was considered “hypercritical of the people involved” and “would have been completely distracting” if it became public.
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Kate and Gerry McCann, the parents of Madeleine.

In fact, the Portuguese lead detective Gonçalo Amaral considered the Irish sighting to be very important back in May 2007 when the Smith family first reported it to the Polícia Judiciária. Details of the sighting and ‘hypercritical information’ were in the public domain early in January 2008, three months before the Oakley team arrived on the scene.

Ebullience at the huge response to their Crimewatch program turned to embarrassment in certain quarters when it was revealed that the BBC had cast a porn star in the ‘reconstruction’ of events the night Madeleine disappeared.



With such films such films as ‘Tight Rider,’ ‘Dr. Screw’ and ‘From Dusk Till Porn’ on his CV, the actor Mark Sloan was engaged by the BBC to represent one of the McCanns’ holidaying friends with whom they dined each night, Dr Matt Oldfield.

“How could the casting director not know of his background when they picked him? It’s all over Google. Did no one check? It is unbelievably stupid,” an agent, who did not wish to be named, told the Daily Star.

Meanwhile, although a new Portuguese police investigation only became official last week, a PJ team in Oporto in the north of Portugal has been reviewing the case for some time, and another PJ team in Faro in the Algarve has been assisting Scotland Yard with their inquiries. It is believed that the new Portuguese investigation will be conducted by group of PJ detectives working independently of Scotland Yard.

Things seem to be hotting up, though there is still no end to the mystery in sight.


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Things seem to be hotting up.....

But the link is dated 29 October 2013 ?!

Extract from interview transcript between AC Mark Rowley (MR) and broadcast media for use from 21:00hrs on Tuesday, 25 April 2017

Q: Six years’ on of Scotland Yard’s involvement, a team of largely 30 people, £11/12 million you’ve
spent, what have you achieved?

MR: We’ve achieved an awful lot. I think you know that we have a track record for using cold cases
on serious old cases, and we solve many cases that way. This is no different in one respect but is
particularly complicated. I think people get seduced perhaps by what they see in TV dramas where
the most complex cases are solved in 30 minutes or 60 minutes with adverts as well.

What we started with here was something extraordinary. We started with 40,000 documents. We’ve got the original
Portuguese investigation and six or eight sets of private detectives who’ve done work and we did
appeals to the public, four Crimewatch appeals, hoovering as much information as possible. Sifting
that, structuring it and working through it is an immense effort. It’s much more ‘hard slog’ in reality
than it is inspiration. That takes time and it takes systems. That’s what we’ve been working on.

And what you’ve seen in the bits which have been reported publically is those appeals, when we’ve
announced suspects, when we’ve made particular announcements, slowly crunching through it and
focusing our attention and making progress. And of course at one stage we had 600 people who at
one stage have been of interest to the enquiry, that doesn’t mean that they are suspects, people who
were suspicious at the time or have a track record which makes us concerned about them, sifting,
which focused the enquiry increasingly and when you’re doing this then across a continent and with
multiple languages and having to build working relationships with the Portuguese, you put that
together and that takes real time.

So we’ve achieved complete understanding of it all, we’ve sifted out many of the potential suspects,
people of interest, and where we are today is a much smaller team, focused on a small remaining
number of critical lines of enquiry, which we think are significant. If we didn’t think they were
significant we wouldn’t be carrying on.
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Q: So when you talk of success and progress, it’s really a case of eliminating things? You’re not
getting any nearer to finding out what happened?

MR: So our mission here is to do everything reasonable to provide an answer to Kate and Gerry
McCann. I’d love to guarantee them that we would get an answer, sadly investigations can never be
100 per cent successful. But, it’s our job, and I’ve discussed it with them, we’ll do everything we can
do, reasonably, to find an answer to what’s happened to Madeleine. And I know, Pedro, the senior
Portuguese colleague I’ve worked with and his team, have a shared determination, to find an answer.

That’s what we’re going to do.
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Q: Do you have some evidence, in your six years of investigation, have you unearthed some
evidence to explain what happened?

MR: We’ve got some thoughts on what we think the most likely explanations might be and we’re
pursuing those. And those link into the key lines of enquiry we’re doing now. As I said, those are very
much live investigations and I know that’s frustrating when you’re doing a programme looking back
but it’s hard to talk about that now, it’s going to frustrate the investigation.
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Q: Do you have any other suspects at the moment?

MR: So, we have got some critical lines of enquiry that are definitely worth pursuing and I’m not going
to go into further detail on those. Another I would say though is, these lines of enquiry we have to
date, they are the product of information available at the time and information that has come from
public appeals that we have done. Four Crimewatch appeals, and other media channels have been
incredibly helpful, including yourselves, and thousands of pieces of information have come forward,
some useful some not, but amongst that have been some nuggets that have thrown some extra light
on the original material that came from the time and that is one of the things that has helped us to
make progress and have some critical lines of enquiry we are pursuing today.
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Tch tch tch AC Mark Rowley - forsooth!

Note:  Text extract for research and study purposes only.

" Some nuggets " !

Yes I think we could name a few that have been " thrown " at us over the past 10 years !

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"...... hoovering as much information as possible ......"  AC Mark Rowley of the Yard

15 or more million spent to apparently provide an answer to Mr & Mrs.   Well they still haven't got an answer so please can we, the taxpayers, have our money back?

There was I thinking this, as in Operation Grange, was about finding answers for Madeleine McCann - not her parents who were, and still are, prime suspects.

Yes yes I know, the McCanns were cleared by the PJ, so say AC Mark Rowley, so they didn't need to re-investigate their possible culpability but but but - what alternative is on offer?  Another nugget - another person of interest previously overlooked by the PJ the UK police and six or eight sets of private detectives [sic]?

That's some pretty shabby detective work.  Still, there is no evidence is there..

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Verdi wrote:There was I thinking this, as in Operation Grange, was about finding answers for Madeleine McCann - not her parents who were, and still are, prime suspects.

Yes yes I know, the McCanns were cleared by the PJ, so say AC Mark Rowley, so they didn't need to re-investigate their possible culpability but but but - what alternative is on offer?  Another nugget - another person of interest previously overlooked by the PJ the UK police and six or eight sets of private detectives [sic]?

That's some pretty shabby detective work.  Still, there is no evidence is there..

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Hi Verdi,if Assistant Commander of the Metropolitan Police force is so convinced of the Tapas 7/9 being innocent of any involvement in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann,reported as 3 May 2007 from apartment 5a Ocean Club.
Then it wouldn't affect his credibility to ask the Seven or nine person's to undertake questioning under "Oath"as to what they had previously stated as facts to Two different sets of Law officers from Portugal and Leicestershire Police Force?
The services of Eddie,Keela would not be needed to in regard to Mark Rowley's"Classic Statement"Bovine spirit production in essence as to why his Police force had not interviewed the Tapas 7/9?
They(Kate,Gerry,Tapas 7) were not Present when Madeleine disappeared,as they were at the Tapas Bar or where they had previously made statements,stated were they Where?