Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
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Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Guest 12.01.15 20:46
I'm going to post this run of conversations that I had with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook with no further comment.
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Knitted 12.01.15 21:21
Fascinating reading!
The vitriol of the 'Pro-McCanns' is palpable. It's an emotive subject but, on balance, it seems that the 'pro-McCann's' seem to rely far more on 'emotion' than 'evidence'. That's not solid grounds for a 'valid case' is it?
As a minor aside, my attention was drawn to the Freudian slip that the emotional response to the objective, rational, debate and discussion about a dead child is, instead, taken very personally...
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The vitriol of the 'Pro-McCanns' is palpable. It's an emotive subject but, on balance, it seems that the 'pro-McCann's' seem to rely far more on 'emotion' than 'evidence'. That's not solid grounds for a 'valid case' is it?
As a minor aside, my attention was drawn to the Freudian slip that the emotional response to the objective, rational, debate and discussion about a dead child is, instead, taken very personally...
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Guest 12.01.15 21:37
Jue L Hancock is still going for it on facebook
It would seem we've had a thread about her before on this forum - https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t3456-madeleine-calender-for-2012
It would seem we've had a thread about her before on this forum - https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t3456-madeleine-calender-for-2012
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Smokeandmirrors 12.01.15 21:40
Is this on a personal FB or a group? Can they not just be blocked? Crazy.
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Guest 12.01.15 21:45
Smokeandmirrors wrote:Is this on a personal FB or a group? Can they not just be blocked? Crazy.
Yes, I've blocked her.
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Knitted 12.01.15 21:49
Hmmh... I'm not on FB under this ID so they're reading this forum in realtime.
(n.b. Or... Since an hour or so ago I PM'd two members via my old TCMoMM ID regarding the Hebdo topic (an ID that I'd last used during the summer other than to PM an undeniably loyal member 48hrs ago), and in that latest message spelled out my FB ID should I now be getting paranoid? :D)
(n.b. Or... Since an hour or so ago I PM'd two members via my old TCMoMM ID regarding the Hebdo topic (an ID that I'd last used during the summer other than to PM an undeniably loyal member 48hrs ago), and in that latest message spelled out my FB ID should I now be getting paranoid? :D)
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Guest 12.01.15 21:56
I posted this conversation on my facebook page https://www.facebook.com/jill.havern and someone commented that she thought I was being targeted like Brenda Leyland.
Certainly some very strange things have been going on lately.
Certainly some very strange things have been going on lately.
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by ultimaThule 12.01.15 21:58
From the other thread it seems Jue switched from raising money for Help for Heroes to drumming up Cash for Child Neglectors...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/stoke/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9132000/9132985.stm
Eta I would expect 'strange things' to be par for the course when the dossier of death compiler(s) must be absolutely bricking it and the marketing strategist is most probably climbing the walls at having been effectively gagged by Ms Leyland's premature demise, which I very much doubt was part of the grand plan.
I suspect a considerable number of people are about to discover that abusing freedom of speech doesn't come cheap.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/stoke/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9132000/9132985.stm
Eta I would expect 'strange things' to be par for the course when the dossier of death compiler(s) must be absolutely bricking it and the marketing strategist is most probably climbing the walls at having been effectively gagged by Ms Leyland's premature demise, which I very much doubt was part of the grand plan.
I suspect a considerable number of people are about to discover that abusing freedom of speech doesn't come cheap.
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Guest 12.01.15 22:05
Hard to believe she talks like a fishwife.
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Knitted 12.01.15 22:09
Fragrantly scented like one I can believe... but as for any accent I have no opinion either way :Dadmin wrote:
Hard to believe she talks like a fishwife.
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by ultimaThule 12.01.15 23:53
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Hard to believe she talks like a fishwife.
To my jaded eye that's a face which could curdle milk, but perhaps missbeetle will give us the benefit of her expert opinon?
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Knitted 12.01.15 23:59
Can I please get in there first and suggest the 'Lady Garden' has been photo-shopped to extend fully towards each hip?ultimaThule wrote:admin wrote:
Hard to believe she talks like a fishwife.
To my jaded eye that's a face which could curdle milk, but perhaps missbeetle will give us the benefit of her expert opinon?
(Plus, for good measure, can I say I can clearly see one or other 'Photoshopped/Psychic Ghost Dogs' behind the heel of the left foot!!)
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by ultimaThule 13.01.15 1:42
Ghost dog, Knitted? That'll be Eddie 
I concur with your opinion that the ladygarden has been photoshopped, perhaps by means of superimposing a neckbeard from an unrelated snap?
The resulting image reminds me of the Rocky Horror Picture Show, abeit the overall effect is more Horror than Rocky.
I'm also reminded of the saying 'Anyone can pull off fishnets and high heels' ... but some are best advised not to put them on.
That said, the delectable Mr Curry can leave 'em on anytime < phwoar emoticon > https://media.photobucket.com/user/lacilu22/media/Movies%20TV%20%20Celebrities/tumblr_laeuavzO9h1qb7rta.gif.html?filters[term]=rocky%20horror%20picture%20show&filters[primary]=images&filters[secondary]=videos&sort=1&o=11
I concur with your opinion that the ladygarden has been photoshopped, perhaps by means of superimposing a neckbeard from an unrelated snap?
The resulting image reminds me of the Rocky Horror Picture Show, abeit the overall effect is more Horror than Rocky.
I'm also reminded of the saying 'Anyone can pull off fishnets and high heels' ... but some are best advised not to put them on.
That said, the delectable Mr Curry can leave 'em on anytime < phwoar emoticon > https://media.photobucket.com/user/lacilu22/media/Movies%20TV%20%20Celebrities/tumblr_laeuavzO9h1qb7rta.gif.html?filters[term]=rocky%20horror%20picture%20show&filters[primary]=images&filters[secondary]=videos&sort=1&o=11
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Knitted 13.01.15 2:34
Dr Frank? I taught him every move I knew... How DARE he steal the limelight from ME!!!!
Though, admittedly, I could never quite surpass him him with that quite evidently, quite captivating, mouth of his!! :P
Though, admittedly, I could never quite surpass him him with that quite evidently, quite captivating, mouth of his!! :P
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by ultimaThule 13.01.15 3:06
That divine mouth is certainly captivating < drools > sensuously seductive... tantalisingly tempting ...< swoons >
Would you please teach me some moves so I canmake one on Mr Curry improve my posture, Knitted?
Would you please teach me some moves so I can
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by plebgate 13.01.15 9:27
She sounds like an attention seeker and imo that is confirmed by that very unflattering photo.
My advice Jill is to ignore.
Clearly this site gets up their noses, now why would that be I wonder?
My advice Jill is to ignore.
Clearly this site gets up their noses, now why would that be I wonder?
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Rogue-a-Tory 13.01.15 10:06
Couple of observations.
Firstly in my humble experience HFH tends to attract a certain type of individual - great idea, fantastic cause but bizarrely draws in a fair share of undesirable views & people IMO.
Secondly, why on earth would you create a potentially provocative set of pictures when your day job is to meet people 1v1 in possibly isolated circumstances? Maybe Jill has a more informed view that I, but I would suggest it's highly inappropriate.
Thirdly, the modus operandi of all these pros on FB & Twitter is to be aggressive & then escalate to ridiculously aggressive. They almost invariably revert to broken record assertive behaviour because they don't have any credible argument to put forward - ever.
Finally for dear Jue, you can trace much of what's currently unfolding within the ruling classes in terms of abuse back to regimes such as Pin-down that happened in the North Staffordshire area. Or maybe you don't believe that happened either.
Firstly in my humble experience HFH tends to attract a certain type of individual - great idea, fantastic cause but bizarrely draws in a fair share of undesirable views & people IMO.
Secondly, why on earth would you create a potentially provocative set of pictures when your day job is to meet people 1v1 in possibly isolated circumstances? Maybe Jill has a more informed view that I, but I would suggest it's highly inappropriate.
Thirdly, the modus operandi of all these pros on FB & Twitter is to be aggressive & then escalate to ridiculously aggressive. They almost invariably revert to broken record assertive behaviour because they don't have any credible argument to put forward - ever.
Finally for dear Jue, you can trace much of what's currently unfolding within the ruling classes in terms of abuse back to regimes such as Pin-down that happened in the North Staffordshire area. Or maybe you don't believe that happened either.
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by aiyoyo 13.01.15 11:01
Person who sold calendars to raise fund for Mcs, where did the money go I wonder ?
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Montclair 13.01.15 11:23
.I don't think that she even sold enough calendars to cover her costsaiyoyo wrote:Person who sold calendars to raise fund for Mcs, where did the money go I wonder ?
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by woodbine 13.01.15 11:49
I think towards the end, there may have been steam coming out of her ears
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by ultimaThule 13.01.15 12:04
woodbine wrote:I think towards the end, there may have been steam coming out of her ears
Steam coming out of her ears? That seems to have been airbrushed from the image under discussion, woodbine
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Smokeandmirrors 13.01.15 12:58
As long as it's just coming out of ears, that'll be OKultimaThule wrote:woodbine wrote:I think towards the end, there may have been steam coming out of her ears
Steam coming out of her ears? That seems to have been airbrushed from the image under discussion, woodbine
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by j.rob 13.01.15 13:08
ultimaThule wrote:Ghost dog, Knitted? That'll be Eddie
I concur with your opinion that the ladygarden has been photoshopped, perhaps by means of superimposing a neckbeard from an unrelated snap?
The resulting image reminds me of the Rocky Horror Picture Show, abeit the overall effect is more Horror than Rocky.
I'm also reminded of the saying 'Anyone can pull off fishnets and high heels' ... but some are best advised not to put them on.
That said, the delectable Mr Curry can leave 'em on anytime < phwoar emoticon > https://media.photobucket.com/user/lacilu22/media/Movies%20TV%20%20Celebrities/tumblr_laeuavzO9h1qb7rta.gif.html?filters[term]=rocky%20horror%20picture%20show&filters[primary]=images&filters[secondary]=videos&sort=1&o=11
PM and her acolytes sound very unhinged. I would not want to have anything to do with them. Not even an exchange of words. Anti-social personality disorders (at best) imo. Nuts, in fact.
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by ultimaThule 13.01.15 14:30
Smokeandmirrors wrote:As long as it's just coming out of ears, that'll be OKultimaThule wrote:woodbine wrote:I think towards the end, there may have been steam coming out of her ears
Steam coming out of her ears? That seems to have been airbrushed from the image under discussion, woodbine
@Sandm. Coming out of certain other orifices might be indicative of a bush fire 
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Smokeandmirrors 13.01.15 14:40
ultimaThule wrote:Smokeandmirrors wrote:As long as it's just coming out of ears, that'll be OKultimaThule wrote:woodbine wrote:I think towards the end, there may have been steam coming out of her ears
Steam coming out of her ears? That seems to have been airbrushed from the image under discussion, woodbine
Apologies….potty humour time!!!
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by aiyoyo 13.01.15 18:45
Montclair wrote:.I don't think that she even sold enough calendars to cover her costsaiyoyo wrote:Person who sold calendars to raise fund for Mcs, where did the money go I wonder ?
But the layout loss is hers to bear.
The sale proceeds should go somewhere. Isn't that the purpose of charity?
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Smokeandmirrors 13.01.15 20:37
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02789bx
This is the BHH interview with Eddie Nestor where he said the family handed in the dossier. It's not available to watch currently on iPlayer but just dumping the link here in case I lose it or someone knows where to find it. Thanks.
This is the BHH interview with Eddie Nestor where he said the family handed in the dossier. It's not available to watch currently on iPlayer but just dumping the link here in case I lose it or someone knows where to find it. Thanks.
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by ultimaThule 13.01.15 21:05
plebgate wrote:She sounds like an attention seeker and imo that is confirmed by that very unflattering photo.
My advice Jill is to ignore.
Clearly this site gets up their noses, now why would that be I wonder?
It can't be anything we've said, plebgate.
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Knitted 13.01.15 22:28
Here's a YouTube clip... :)Smokeandmirrors wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02789bx
This is the BHH interview with Eddie Nestor where he said the family handed in the dossier. It's not available to watch currently on iPlayer but just dumping the link here in case I lose it or someone knows where to find it. Thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6c1aRUUPgE#t=13
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Re: Conversation with Pamela Gurney and Jue L Hancock on Facebook regarding Brenda Leyland
by Smokeandmirrors 13.01.15 22:47
Brilliant thank you!!!!! Tried to find one earlier without success, you're a star!!!Knitted wrote:Here's a YouTube clip... :)Smokeandmirrors wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02789bx
This is the BHH interview with Eddie Nestor where he said the family handed in the dossier. It's not available to watch currently on iPlayer but just dumping the link here in case I lose it or someone knows where to find it. Thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6c1aRUUPgE#t=13
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