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Sunday Mirror 4 Jan 2015 blames Madeleine disappearance for Mark Warner pull-out from Praia da Luz

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Post by Tony Bennett on Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:39 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-holiday-firm-pulls-4915169

Madeleine McCann holiday firm pulls out of Portuguese resort where she vanished
Jan 03, 2015 21:00

  • By Matthew Drake



Mark Warner will no longer operate the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz on the Algarve where Maddie went missing in 2007



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The holiday company at the centre of the Madeleine McCann case has quit the Portuguese resort where she vanished.

Mark Warner will no longer operate the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz on the Algarve.

The firm has been struggling to attract bookings there following the three-year-old’s abduction in 2007.

British holidaymakers shunned the complex as worldwide media coverage of the case raised safety concerns and profits dwindled.

A source said: “Mark Warner ended the deal recently after trying to make it work for a few years.

“Now people feel the resort will become deserted. It is a huge blow.

“At the moment the Ocean Club will be run by the trust that owns it. The Mark Warner deal was for them to take over and run it for a few years. Sadly, the year after they moved in tragedy struck.”

Madeleine went missing from her family’s holiday apartment at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz on 3 May 2007.

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Officers from the Metropolitan Police’s Operation Grange, who are investigating her disappearance, flew out to the Algarve early last month to question witnesses.

They are keen to establish if there are any inconsistencies in statements.

The club has now been removed from Mark Warner’s website.

One local said: “This place has never been the same since Madeleine went missing. It is as if a cloud is hanging over the place the whole time.

“Now the British police keep returning and it rakes it all up again.”

Mark Warner took legal action five years ago against its insurers in a bid to recover lost earnings in the aftermath of the case. They filed the writ in the high court in 2009 seeking compensation from US insurance company AIG.

As soon as Madeleine went missing, Mark Warner sought to reassure parents, insisting the incident was a “one-off”.
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David Hopkins, the managing director, said at the time: “Our security is terribly robust.”

But a company spokesman acknowledged many parents would stay away until the investigation was over.

While some critics focused on security, others questioned why parents Gerry and Kate McCann had chosen not to use a babysitter and instead left their three children in an apartment at the resort while they had dinner nearby, checking them every 30 minutes.

A company spokesman said at the time: “It is a matter of public record that Mark Warner’s bookings to Portugal were affected by events.”

It is unclear how far the company’s profits were hit by the affair, but accounts showed that it made a loss of £2.8million in the year up to October 2007, on a turnover of £46million.

It said then: “The results for the year reflect the difficult trading conditions experienced by certain parts of the tour operating industry.”

Mark Warner built its reputation as a child-friendly holiday company popular with middle-class parents. The firm, founded in 1974, says on its website: “For over 30 years we have led the way in childcare and have kids’ clubs for all ages with free evening creche service.”

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Post by kinell on Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:11 am

If Madeleine really had been abducted then I would find it pretty tasteless for MW to be reporting about 'difficult trading conditions', but seeing as we all know this whole case has been one massive SCAM, covering up the death of their own daughter, then I find it totally abhorrent that a couple of vile British doctors can bring a whole town to its knees, whilst at the same time aiming to deliberately destroy the lives of many people, including the lives of their remaining children by continuing with their disgusting lies.

They truly sicken me, everything they stand for, and I wish they would get their disgusting faces off our tv and out of our newspapers.

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Post by PeterMac on Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:11 am

Still love this one.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g776012-d229314-r5835313-Luz_Ocean_Club-Luz_Faro_District_Algarve.html

“Mark Warner Ocean Club - Dreadful Food, Great Childcare”
Reviewed September 25, 2006
We stayed at the Ocean Club with Mark Warner. The child care was excellent, and the apartment good, the food however was terrible.

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Post by Joss on Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:29 am

@kinell wrote:If Madeleine really had been abducted then I would find it pretty tasteless for MW to be reporting about 'difficult trading conditions', but seeing as we all know this whole case has been one massive SCAM, covering up the death of their own daughter, then I find it totally abhorrent that a couple of vile British doctors can bring a whole town to its knees, whilst at the same time aiming to deliberately destroy the lives of many people, including the lives of their remaining children by continuing with their disgusting lies.

They truly sicken me, everything they stand for, and I wish they would get their disgusting faces off our tv and out of our newspapers.
I totally agree goodpost The BS has gone on for long enough. I also find it difficult to imagine that the McC's could destroy the place by their bogus claims, IMO.
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Post by canada12 on Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:34 am

I imagine if it's ever proved that the abduction was a hoax that Ocean Club and possibly MW will have grounds for a lawsuit against the McCanns...?

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Post by BlueBag on Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:02 am

@canada12 wrote:I imagine if it's ever proved that the abduction was a hoax that Ocean Club..
It would be one of the biggest legal cases and news stories of all time.

That's how big this is.

Bigger than Lindbergh.
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Post by Tony Bennett on Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:03 am

@canada12 wrote:I imagine if it's ever proved that the abduction was a hoax that Ocean Club and possibly MW will have grounds for a lawsuit against the McCanns...?
In that case I'd better get all my legal papers ready for the 'off' so that I can beat the Ocean Club and Mark Warner in the rush for compensation

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Post by Guest on Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:13 am

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@canada12 wrote:I imagine if it's ever proved that the abduction was a hoax that Ocean Club and possibly MW will have grounds for a lawsuit against the McCanns...?
In that case I'd better get all my legal papers ready for the 'off' so that I can beat the Ocean Club and Mark Warner in the rush for compensation

Start forming an orderly queue behind Dr Amaral!

Crikey, the media don't seem to mind publishing articles about politicians, celebrities and now Royalty regarding paedophilia....

....just don't mention the McCann's shhhh

As BlueBag says "That's how big this is"
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Post by PeterMac on Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:21 am

There will be quite a list, both of people and of legal precedents

TB  for malicious prosecution, wrongful imprisonment, perjury by proxy, Conspiracy to pervert   (and remember that Tugendhat J has already put something like that on the record ! !) plus obviously defamation
Dr Amaral, all the above except wrongful imprisonment
Robert Murat - conspiracy to pervert, wrongful arrest
MW - tortious interference with business (or its Portuguiese equivalent)
OC - ditto
Township of PdL - Chamber of commerce - ditto
Brit police - wasting police time, conspiracy to pervert
PJ - ditto -
Vatican - wasting God's time,

And it will not be confined ONLY to the McCanns, who will declare themselves bankrupt from wherever they are detained.
It wil include all those who knew, but gave them support. Mitchell, for example. And many members of the extended family.
And possibly a number of others whose names we can guess at.

I think only the defence of "incredible stupidity and gullibility" would be possible.

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Post by Snifferdog on Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:40 am

@admin wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@canada12 wrote:I imagine if it's ever proved that the abduction was a hoax that Ocean Club and possibly MW will have grounds for a lawsuit against the McCanns...?
In that case I'd better get all my legal papers ready for the 'off' so that I can beat the Ocean Club and Mark Warner in the rush for compensation

Start forming an orderly queue behind Dr Amaral!

Crikey, the media don't seem to mind publishing articles about politicians, celebrities and now Royalty regarding paedophilia....

....just don't mention the McCann's shhhh

As BlueBag says "That's how big this is"

I am hoping that it is because the whole edifice is crumbling in the mad rush for self preservation, when they all throw each other under the bus.
 
Love, sharing, caring, forgiveness and charity
are signs of weakness according to these, so they will naturally behave accordingly, and that is their me, myself and I first, no matter what, as the truth comes out, and therein lies their weakness.
The only glue that holds the whole together is the blackmail by way of the compromising material they have on each other, which is how they exercise control over others.

Failing that the Boston Brakes has worked quite well.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:41 am

@BlueBag wrote:
@canada12 wrote:I imagine if it's ever proved that the abduction was a hoax that Ocean Club..
It would be one of the biggest legal cases and news stories of all time.

That's how big this is.

Bigger than Lindbergh.
I wonder if MW aren't firing a warning shot across the bows,the headline definitely lays the blame on the disappearance.
Not MW pull out,but MM holiday firm.

Madeleine McCann holiday firm pulls out of Portuguese resort where she vanished
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Post by sharonl on Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:05 am

The question is, why? Why have Mark Warner pulled out of the Ocean Club?

We have asked this question before, what sort of holidays does the OC offer?  Just a thought, but could it be under investigation?

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Post by Silver Shuffle on Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:35 pm

Strange, the choice of photos used. one with Maddie with a slide in her hair, the other with the bead.

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Post by PeterMac on Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:56 pm

Just an aside Mark Warner was two lads, Andrew Searle, and Mark Chitty, but they agreed that "Chitty Holidays" might not appeal, so they used his mother's name ! Mr
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Post by PeterMac on Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:02 pm

Just as another aside, from further up the thread

Solicitor wins £550,000 for false imprisonment

"Calm down, dear !"
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/11/james-watson-solicitor-middlesbrough-damages
Cleveland police have agreed to pay £550,000 in damages to a lawyer it falsely imprisoned.
James Watson, a solicitor from Middlesbrough, was arrested in June 2009 after his client was acquitted of conspiracy to kidnap. Police suspected he was part of a conspiracy to make witnesses change their story.
He was held in a cell for almost 30 hours and questioned on suspicion of perverting the course of justice before being released on bail. His wife, Rita, and their two sons were held in a room of their house for more than seven hours.

30 HOURS ! !  worth 550k
What is a sentence of 3 months imprisonment worth ?  The fact that is was suspended is entirely irrelevant. It is reputation at stake, as it was here.
In fact is is capped at 500k, but it might be more than the equity in Rothley Towers, Ullapool, flat in Brighton . . .

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Post by mysterion on Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:18 pm

If it was ever proved that the abduction was a hoax then the trustees of the fund could be prosecuted and/or sued by the donors.  Minor donors could clog up the Small Claims Court for years.

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Post by PeterMac on Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:31 pm

@mysterion wrote:If it was ever proved that the abduction was a hoax then the trustees of the fund could be prosecuted and/or sued by the donors.  Minor donors could clog up the Small Claims Court for years.
I think they would go for a class action.
But yes,the Trustees of the "Fund" are liable, and serious questions would be asked about the solicitors , Accountants, and everyone else to ensure that "Due Diligence" was performed.
Given the selection of M3, Halligen, Alfaig and the others it is not "entirely' clear that it was.

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Post by plebgate on Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:02 pm

Mark Warner in the Mirror article reported as saying they have a free evening creche.

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Post by margaret on Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:07 pm

@sharonl wrote:The question is, why? Why have Mark Warner pulled out of the Ocean Club?

We have asked this question before, what sort of holidays does the OC offer?  Just a thought, but could it be under investigation?

Simply what MW said, they're a business and takings are down after the Mccann circus, aren't Thomson taking the contract over instead?
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Post by margaret on Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:10 pm

@mysterion wrote:If it was ever proved that the abduction was a hoax then the trustees of the fund could be prosecuted and/or sued by the donors.  Minor donors could clog up the Small Claims Court for years.

There are no trustees. It's a limited company and debts are limited for the directors, so don't expect any directors to be paying back millions from their own personal accounts it isn't going to happen, assets will be seized putting the company into liquidation and the small claims court can't pursue claims against a limited company then.
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Post by espeland on Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:16 pm

@margaret wrote:
@mysterion wrote:If it was ever proved that the abduction was a hoax then the trustees of the fund could be prosecuted and/or sued by the donors.  Minor donors could clog up the Small Claims Court for years.

There are no trustees. It's a limited company and debts are limited for the directors, so don't expect any directors to be paying back millions from their own personal accounts it isn't going to happen, assets will be seized putting the company into liquidation and the small claims court can't pursue claims against a limited company then.


True but with the way the money's been spent, I'd expect some of them to be staying at Her Majesty's pleasure.

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Post by margaret on Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:19 pm

@espeland wrote:
@margaret wrote:
@mysterion wrote:If it was ever proved that the abduction was a hoax then the trustees of the fund could be prosecuted and/or sued by the donors.  Minor donors could clog up the Small Claims Court for years.

There are no trustees. It's a limited company and debts are limited for the directors, so don't expect any directors to be paying back millions from their own personal accounts it isn't going to happen, assets will be seized putting the company into liquidation and the small claims court can't pursue claims against a limited company then.


True but with the way the money's been spent, I'd expect some of them to be staying at Her Majesty's pleasure
Absolutely, but realistically speaking the worse crime (regards length of sentencing) will be to do with madeleines demise not the fund.

Look at Farepak, £37m stolen from customers and not one director went to jail, the directors even went to court to try and get their ban from being directors overturned!
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Post by PeterMac on Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:12 pm

Yes, OK,  Trustees of the Fund - used as a shorthand for Liability of the Directors of a Limited Company

http://www.pitmans.com/directors-toolkit/home/fraud-criminal/what-is-the-law-on-corporate-liability-for-fraud-in-the-uk/
What is the law on corporate liability for fraud in the UK?
In the UK, fraud is primarily a criminal act defined as the following:

Dishonestly making a false representation for your own gain or to cause loss to another.
Dishonestly failing to disclose information when you have a duty to disclose it.
Abuse of position, where you are under a duty to safeguard the financial interests of others, and you fail in that duty with intent to gain for yourself or cause lost to another.
False accounting (destroying concealing or falsifying accounting records).
Using a falsified account knowing it is materially misleading.
Conspiracy to defraud by two or more persons, where they agree to do something to deprive a third person.

These offences are contained in a variety of statute and common law including the Fraud Act and parts of the Theft Act. Fraud of whatever sort is prosecuted by the police, or in serious cases by the Serious Fraud Office.

Fraud can be committed by individuals or companies (if the senior management is sufficiently complicit that the company is regarded as committing the offence). It can also lead to problems for a company from third parties such as the regulators of certain industries, for example the financial services regulators.

Jeering and Hate McCann are both Directors of the Limited Company.
It is not known if Cadaver-Cat is the Company Mascot

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Post by stillsloppingout on Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:00 pm

@PeterMac wrote:Just an aside Mark Warner was two lads, Andrew Searle, and Mark Chitty, but they agreed that "Chitty Holidays" might not appeal, so they used his mother's name !  Mr
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In  this case allegedly  Chitty Chitty Gang Bang !!!!
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Post by Gaggzy on Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:12 pm

@stillsloppingout wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:Just an aside Mark Warner was two lads, Andrew Searle, and Mark Chitty, but they agreed that "Chitty Holidays" might not appeal, so they used his mother's name !  Mr
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In  this case allegedly  Chitty Chitty Gang Bang !!!!

A-ha ... so this is where the 'swinging theory' originated?

Dave, one of my mates down the ale-house, reckons the tag line used for the Praia da Luz holiday was :


Swingers With Mingers.




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