The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann™
Hello!

A very warm welcome to The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann™ forum.

Please log in, or register to view all the forums, then settle in and help us get to the truth about what really happened to Madeleine Beth McCann. Please note that your username should be different from your email address!

When posting please be mindful that this forum is primarily about the death of a three year old girl.

(Please note: if you register with the sole intention of disrupting or spamming, please don't expect to be a member for too long.)

Many thanks,

Jill Havern
Forum owner

Haut de la Garenne is Back in the News

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Haut de la Garenne is Back in the News

Post by sallypelt on 28.11.14 11:26

The Independent Jersey Care Inquiry is charged with finding out what went wrong in the island's care system from the end of the Second World War.
The panel holds hearings at its Seaton Place HQ.

5:18 pm, Wed 26 Nov 2014     
  Witness describes carer as 'sadistic, dishonest and a fluent liar'



Jersey's Care Inquiry will resume today (20 November 2014) after a three week break.
Evidence will be given from a former resident of Blanche Pierre home in Le Squez.
The Independent Jersey Care Inquiry, which is charged with finding out what went wrong in the island's care system from the end of the Second World War, now intends to sit for four days each week until mid December.

Link: http://www.itv.com/news/channel/story/2014-09-10/latest-jersey-care-inquiry/

sallypelt

Posts : 3610
Reputation : 783
Join date : 2012-11-10

Back to top Go down

Re: Haut de la Garenne is Back in the News

Post by sallypelt on 28.11.14 11:33

How very interesting. Martin Grimes vindicated, after so many people tried to discredit him:

Exclusive Footage of "Eddie" Cadaver Dog at HDLG Saturday, 10 March 2012:


With the assistance of Former Senior Investigating Officer of the Jersey Child Abuse Investigation, and Former Deputy Chief Police Officer Mr. Lenny Harper, we are able to bring you exclusive video footage of arguably the world's most renowned Cadaver Dog "Eddie" not only working at the crime scene of the Former Jersey Children's Home, Haute de la Garenne, but alerting to the scent of human death.

Not a great deal of these Cadaver dogs work has been reported in the State Media, other than to discredit them, so we asked Mr. Harper to document for us just exactly what is happening in the video below, what does a Cadaver dog do? How significant to the investigation the dog was? What, if anything did he (the dog) find?The results, it has to be said were astounding. Mr. Harper agreed to our request and once again we thank him for his commitment to the truth and justice.

For viewers information "JAR/6" is the fragment of child's skull.

00.00.0 Getting ready. I was reluctant to let the dog inside as I did not feel that it would do much good. In truth, I was a little sceptical – I had not felt a favourable impression from the handler (Martin Grimes) at our initial meeting and I was dubious, although my opinion of his qualities and integrity was to markedly change as events unfolded. I began to realise as I worked closely with him over a period of months that what I originally took as arrogance was simply supreme confidence in the ability of his dogs in the face of jealous, empire protecting rivals who were not as professionally capable. Throughout the investigation, we subjected Martin and his dogs to many ‘verifying’ tests, from burying swabs in sand (which he always found no matter how large an area), to minute blood stains. The dogs never failed. Many of these tests were carried out in front of Jersey politicians and media, including Channel Television and Diane Simon of the JEP. Frank Walker and Andrew Lewis were only two of the politicians who witnessed the ability of the dogs in hugely impressive displays. Funny how they all forgot this when they jumped on the bandwagon which sought to ruin Martin Grime’s reputation. One of the most spectacular exercises occurred when one of the Anthropologists brought a vial of sand back that she had removed from the tomb of a mummy in Egypt. We put this vial on a beach, below the sand, and let Eddie off to look for it. The dog amazingly sought it out in a few minutes and gave us the reaction you will see in this video. To get back to the start of the video and my initial doubts, after a few days outside I had at least gained a grudging respect for Martin’s hard work and dedication. I still was not keen to extend the search inside the house with the dog; however, I reluctantly conceded that we should look at all our possibilities so that we could walk away and say that we had given it a good shot. You can see me standing looking less than confident.

Also taken from the article:

...To clarify, Eddie is trained to trace the scent of dead human flesh. He will react where this scent is found, not necessarily where it was originally located. His strongest reaction will normally be where that scent is strongest, which will usually be where the dead flesh has lain longest...



Link to the full text of the article:

http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/exclusive-footage-of-eddie-cadaver-dog.html

sallypelt

Posts : 3610
Reputation : 783
Join date : 2012-11-10

Back to top Go down

Re: Haut de la Garenne is Back in the News

Post by BlueBag on 28.11.14 12:03

The dogs... it's all about the dogs.

SY must know that.
avatar
BlueBag

Posts : 4237
Reputation : 2040
Join date : 2014-06-06

Back to top Go down

Re: Haut de la Garenne is Back in the News

Post by jeanmonroe on 28.11.14 12:09



Tell me again, McCann, how 'un-reliable, crap, useless' FERN is at her 'job'!

jeanmonroe

Posts : 5815
Reputation : 1657
Join date : 2013-02-07

Back to top Go down

Re: Haut de la Garenne is Back in the News

Post by jozi on 28.11.14 12:22

@BlueBag wrote:The dogs... it's all about the dogs.

SY must know that.
Yes, but nobody is listening...........Yet !!!

Excellent news though. woof !!!
avatar
jozi

Posts : 710
Reputation : 15
Join date : 2012-05-15

Back to top Go down

Re: Haut de la Garenne is Back in the News

Post by pennylane on 28.11.14 13:12

@BlueBag wrote:The dogs... it's all about the dogs.

SY must know that.


Yep, hence DCI Redwood's deeply irrational, child murdering burglar, whose bountiful robbery included no less than....... one dead child Rolling Eyes

pennylane

Posts : 2756
Reputation : 1588
Join date : 2009-12-07

Back to top Go down

Re: Haut de la Garenne is Back in the News

Post by Dr What on 28.11.14 14:50

Yes. The publication of the PJ files and the findings of the 2 dogs were the grenades that were lobbed into the world of team McCann.

My daughter trains dogs for a variety of purposes. All the people I meet and talk with in connection with her work simply know that a body either died or was stored  in that apartment 5A.They all know that dogs are not prone to making the type of mistakes that the McCanns would like people to believe.

Clearly, other supporting evidence is required in order to turn that knowledge into a case that will stand up to legal scrutiny.

But the McCanns were bowled a googly when the dogs were brought in.They were clearly not expecting that.Hence the amateurish way that GM 'researched' the topic.
People who work with dogs know that a dead body was in that apartment. .I'm sure that SY know that as well.

Dr What

Posts : 245
Reputation : 24
Join date : 2012-10-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Haut de la Garenne is Back in the News

Post by Jamming on 28.11.14 14:53

@pennylane wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:The dogs... it's all about the dogs.

SY must know that.


Yep, hence DCI Redwood's deeply irrational, child murdering burglar, whose bountiful robbery included no less than....... one dead child Rolling Eyes

And no more than either, and nothing of value (to them) anyway
avatar
Jamming

Posts : 134
Reputation : 1
Join date : 2014-06-04

Back to top Go down

Re: Haut de la Garenne is Back in the News

Post by worriedmum on 28.11.14 16:39

@jeanmonroe wrote:

Tell me again, McCann, how 'un-reliable, crap, useless' FERN is at her 'job'!
Thanks for sharing that, what a truly amazing animal.
avatar
worriedmum

Posts : 1796
Reputation : 396
Join date : 2012-01-17

Back to top Go down

If they had nothing to hide . . . .

Post by PeterMac on 29.03.15 17:01

[img][/img]


From Private Eye

____________________

avatar
PeterMac
Researcher

Posts : 10170
Reputation : 162
Join date : 2010-12-06

Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum