Re: Breaking News on Sky News - SY back in PDL suspects to be interviewed

by petunia 30.06.14 22:11

So to be questioned tomorrow? so they must have been informed prior to today? so they must have informed there lawyers to be there tomorrow (if they have one) I wonder if "these suspects/ witnesses are at home shaking in their boots or are having a glass of new zealand wine while watching the world cup.

by Woofer 30.06.14 22:12

HelenMeg wrote:
FrankS wrote:SERGEY MALINKA IS ONE OF THE ARGUIDO'S.
I cant see where you got this info from - cannot read it in the link -
what do they say?

Watch the video `4 Arguidos dos caso Maddie ` - Serkei Malinka`s name appears and also he is shown being taken to the police station and his computers retrieved from his home (this was back in 2007).

by kevmack 30.06.14 22:13

Maybe it is now time for Malinka to FALA

by lozzyp 30.06.14 22:15

If malinka is an arguido, he wont talk will he, he will have the right not to, just like kate. :0(

by Guest 30.06.14 22:15

kevmack wrote:Maybe it is now time for Malinka to FALA

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Possibly

by Woofer 30.06.14 22:15

HelenMeg wrote:
noddy100 wrote:Could someone give me a brief synopsis of Malinka's involvement at the time Thank you
All I know is that Robert Murat phoned Malinka briefly on the night of the 3rd May after the disappearance. Murat knew Malinka and his girlfriend. Malinka was an IT / website developer.

......... and apparently deleted everything from his hard drive before the PJ got there.

by sallypelt 30.06.14 22:16

This is snipped from Malinka's PJ files:

"The last time they met was at the request of ROBERT, who called the witness to perform other work and improve the page. The day after the telephone contact he met with him together with MICHAELA. This meeting took place on 30 April 2007, so the contact call occurred on 29th. It was held in the "Baptista" supermarket, about 10H00. It was agreed that the witness would try the page, following indication from ROBERT, the indications being given by email. The witness' email: [e-mail address deleted]. The last telephone contact he had with ROBERT, he believes, was on May 11, when the witness was contacted, he thinks, at 16:00. This contact was to draw the attention of the witness, because the page opened incorrectly. He recalls trying to call ROBERT on 14th, however he [RM] had the appliance disconnected"

Here is the link to the full statement:

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by pennylane 30.06.14 22:17

Woofer wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:
noddy100 wrote:Could someone give me a brief synopsis of Malinka's involvement at the time Thank you
All I know is that Robert Murat phoned Malinka briefly on the night of the 3rd May after the disappearance. Murat knew Malinka and his girlfriend. Malinka was an IT / website developer.

......... and apparently deleted everything from his hard drive before the PJ got there.

yes... whoosh cluck!

by HelenMeg 30.06.14 22:18

Wonder if Mr and Mrs Mc Cann are feeling 'buoyed up' at the news?

I feel a little optimistic that by homing in on Malinka they are getting much closer to where they need to be..

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by View-from-Ireland 30.06.14 22:22

Do we feel we are moving closer to an 'endgame'?

by kevmack 30.06.14 22:22

HelenMeg wrote:Wonder if Mr and Mrs Mc Cann are feeling 'buoyed up' at the news?

I feel a little optimistic that by homing in on Malinka they are getting much closer to where they need to be..

Yes, it looks like it's all going back to the start in my opinion, it's a very interesting development, particularly as Malinka's car was targeted with the word TALK sprayed next to it, that always intrigued me, what secret was he keeping? Maybe we won't have too long to find out

by margaret 30.06.14 22:23

HelenMeg wrote:Wonder if Mr and Mrs Mc Cann are feeling 'buoyed up' at the news?

I feel a little optimistic that by homing in on Malinka they are getting much closer to where they need to be..

Me too. Malinka leads to Murat, leads to.....

Could the four also include michaela Murat and his mother?

by jeanmonroe 30.06.14 22:24

K&G and the T6 will be absolute FURIOUS, having to arrange child care for their children, whilst the Portuguese 're-arguido' them, in Faro, later this week, won't they?

Oh, i thought you said the PJ will be questioning EIGHT 'suspects' about the 'disappearance' of Madeleine.

"So, burglator 1, DCI Mahogany has said your phone pinged in PDL on 3rd May 2007"

"Really? Does that mean the English copper has found me phone, that was nicked from me in Italy on holiday in 2006?"

"Er, um, erm yes, no, yes, i don't know"

"Can i have it back then?"

by sallypelt 30.06.14 22:25

So, the PJ kept one of Malinka's computers, and as far as we know, it was never returned:

I, Sergey Malinka, previously identified in the process files, come to request the following:

1. As explained in a previous request, on 16th May 2007 at about 15.00, the Portimao PJ carried out searches in my residence (see document joined to my previous request).
2. On the night of 16th – 17th May I was heard exhaustively at the Portimao PJ installations in my quality as witness.
3. On 17th May 2007 at the end of the afternoon all material was returned to me that had been apprehended on the previous evening, with the exception of a Sony portable computer, model Vaio PGC-6H4L, with series number 281992303103495 and the rest of the material that was taken from my home on 17th May for future analysis.
4. The PJ promised me at that moment that the material in point nº3 would be returned to me in a week’s time (!!!)
5. Until now (ten months later!) nothing has been returned to me and this situation continues to cause me serious harm and difficulty in my professional life.
6. I request that you order the return of the apprehended items, with maximum urgency, ordering its return to me, by

** Following page is missing.

by HelenMeg 30.06.14 22:26

margaret wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:Wonder if Mr and Mrs Mc Cann are feeling 'buoyed up' at the news?

I feel a little optimistic that by homing in on Malinka they are getting much closer to where they need to be..

Me too. Malinka leads to Murat, leads to.....

Could the four also include michaela Murat and his mother?

Trouble is - our hopes have been dashed far too many times previously. Still, we're getting closer. dance

by Hicks 30.06.14 22:26

If this latest development moves fast, will the McCann's feel comfortable going back to Portugal?

Oh, it's on the BBC news now. They are saying that eight people are to be questioned, one Russian, some Portuguese.

by NickE 30.06.14 22:26

margaret wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:Wonder if Mr and Mrs Mc Cann are feeling 'buoyed up' at the news?

I feel a little optimistic that by homing in on Malinka they are getting much closer to where they need to be..

Me too. Malinka leads to Murat, leads to.....

Could the four also include michaela Murat and his mother?

...leads to.....
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[ltr]Then K McCann had six calls/texts between 2216 and 2228. My sixth sense tells me that ALL the evening contacts involved Murat in some way.[/ltr]

by petunia 30.06.14 22:27

What happened to the Jenny Murat's book?

by kevmack 30.06.14 22:28

Well it's certainly more interesting, and closer to the truth than dead paedos, burglars, drug addicts, cleaners and uncle tom cobleigh and all imo

by **Tony Bennett** 30.06.14 22:29

FrankS wrote:SERGEY MALINKA IS ONE OF THE ARGUIDO'S.

Extract from my long article on Robert Murat: 'From Arguido to Applause':

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The other meeting was between Brian Kennedy, the Portuguese Police, and the Spanish private detective agency recently chosen by Kennedy and the McCanns: Metodo 3. This took place in police headquarters in Portimao.

A report from the Portuguese Police referring to a ’phone call on 19 October, gives us some background; here it is:

“On the 19th of October, we were contacted by Alberto Carbas, Chief of the Kidnapping Unit of the Commissary-General, based in Madrid, who passed to us the information that the McCann family had contracted a Spanish private detective agency known as ‘Metodo 3’. The costs of their investigation into Madeleine McCann were being covered by a Scottish multi-millionaire whose name is Brian Kennedy. His objective was to find Madeleine.

“We were asked if we were available and interested in meeting with a representative of Metodo 3 and the Spanish Commissary General and Chief of the Kidnapping Unit of the Police in Spain. The purpose of this proposed meeting, they said, was to find out the truth, but they stated that they would not interfere in police work. At most, they said, they would ‘complement’ our investigation. They firmly stated that they are not working directly for the McCann family, but for Brian Kennedy. They didn’t ask for any information regarding the investigation, nor was any offered to them, for obvious reasons”.

We now know that Brian Kennedy flew out in November 2007, about three weeks after this ’phone call, together with his in-house lawyer from the Latium Group, Edward Smethurst. This, briefly, is the Portuguese Police’s account of a meeting between them, Metodo 3, Brian Kennedy and Edward Smethurst. The date of it was probably arranged during or soon after the ’phone call of 19 October:

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“We held a meeting on 13 November, with Inspectors Paulo Ferreira and Ricardo Paiva present, with Brian Kennedy, Director of the detective agency, Francisco Marco and one of his advisers, plus Antonio Jimenez, ex-chief of the Kidnapping Unit of Catalonia [Note: Other information suggests that Edward Smethurst was also present]. Brian Kennedy insisted that his motives were purely charitable, aimed at finding the truth, and generally helping missing children. He said he was interested in discovering the truth even if the McCann family, the friends, or any other person is found to be involved in the disappearance”.

UNQUOTE

Brian Kennedy’s involvement in the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been controversial. An article by Mark Hollingsworth in the Evening Standard in August 2009 claimed that “The involvement of Brian Kennedy and his son Patrick in the operation was counter-productive, notably when they were questioned by the local police [in Portugal] for acting suspiciously while attempting a 24-hour ‘stake out’.” The ‘Evening Standard’ article also showed that, later, the relationship between Metodo 3 and the Portuguese police had ‘completely broken down’. Hollingsworth claimed that key witnesses were questioned ‘far too aggressively’ by Kennedy’s investigators, so much so that ‘some of them later refused to talk to the police’. Interference with witnesses to that extent could amount to a criminal offence. We are not aware that any other nation allows people to interfere with potential witnesses in an investigation in such a way as to cause them to refuse to testify, as Mark Hollingsworth in his article claimed had happened in this case, due to Kennedy’s investigators.

It was Francisco Pagarete, Mr Murat’s Portuguese lawyer - the one whom he was so anxious to see when he flew out to Praia da Luz on 1 May - who confirmed that a second meeting involving Brian Kennedy took place at Mr Murat’s uncle’s house in the Algarve in November. He told the BBC: “[Brian Kennedy] came here to give his support to Robert and to say he doesn’t believe Robert was involved in this story in any way or sense. And he asked if Robert could help the investigation for the finding of Madeleine in any way”. Mr Pagarete added that Mr Kennedy had ‘promised to stay in touch with Mr Murat’ but ‘had not contacted him since’. Mr Pagarete also confirmed that Edward Smethurst was at the meeting.

The Portuguese paper Jornal de Notícias appeared to have some additional information about this meeting. Their report, early in 2008, said: “The meeting - a dinner that Brian Kennedy asked to be discreet and far away from the eyes of the press - took place in the end of last year at a house of Murat's relatives in Burgau (Vila do Bispo). At the dinner were Robert Murat and Kennedy, their respective lawyers, Jennifer Murat and the aunt and uncle of Murat” [NOTE: This appears in fact to have been Ralph Eveleigh, Murat’s uncle, and Sally Eveleigh, his cousin].

If Murat and Kennedy each had one lawyer with them - Pagarete and Smethurst - that makes seven people present at that dinner in Burgau: Murat and his mother, his uncle Ralph and cousin Sally Eveleigh, who ran the 8-room guest house at Vila do Bispo, two lawyers and Brian Kennedy.

What was discussed at this meeting that Kennedy didn’t want the press to know about?

This evening meeting was either on the same day, or very close to, the meeting that Brian Kennedy had with the Portuguese Police on 13 November 2007 that we referred to above. The two Portuguese Police Inspectors, Ferreira and Paiva, later submitted an account of their strange meeting with Brian Kennedy.

The report, which is amongst the documents contained in the police files, indicates that right at the start of the meeting, Brian Kennedy was keen to stress that his intentions were ‘purely charitable’, because he felt ‘concerned about cases of child neglect and child abduction’. The Director of Metodo 3, Francisco Marco, presented information to the PJ about three situations, allegedly received via their ‘hotline’.

The first of these concerned an incident that the British media had already referred to, at the end of October 2007: a woman who had been baby-sitting at the Ocean Club, in Apartment 5A in August/September 2006, said she spotted a man ‘hidden in the shadows’, the same day that Madeleine disappeared. A story about this had surfaced in the Sun on October 31.

According to the newspaper, “The nanny - identified only as M.H. - reported the frightening incident to the police in England after the hunt for Madeleine started in May, but did not speak to the police in Portugal”. Clarence Mitchell added that: “This evidence supports what we have always said, that Maddie was taken from her bed by an abductor”. The Portuguese Police had however ruled out this report, because the detectives considered that there was no proof that it was in any way related to Madeleine's disappearance.

The second piece of information was about the alleged existence of images of paedophilia on a computer at the home of Sergei Malinka, witnessed by the fiancé of a British woman, four years ago, when he was at Malinka's house. According to this witness, he questioned Malinka on the subject and he explained that the computer belonged to a client and that he would report it later to the authorities. All of the computers at Malinka's house were seized and examined, but the Portuguese Police report said that nothing of any relevance or suspicion was found.

The third piece of information referred to a detailed witness statement, according to the Metodo 3 report, about a woman handing what the witness was convinced was a child, wrapped in a blanket or a sheet, over a fence to a man, next to two parked vehicles, near a town 100 miles from the Algarve. The witness, a Portuguese lorry driver, M.G., looked at several photos and picked out Michaela Walczuk [Robert Murat’s girlfriend, now his wife], saying that her picture was the one that most resembled the woman he had seen.

by View-from-Ireland 30.06.14 22:30

Last summer wasn't Murat all over the papers asking for the Tapas crew to return to Portugal for a reconstruction?

Was he running with the hare and hunting with the hound?

by sallypelt 30.06.14 22:32

I'm confused! If Robert Murat didn't fly out to Portugal until 1st may 2007, how could he have met Malinka at Baptista's on the 30th of April. Or have I got my wires crossed?

by FrankS 30.06.14 22:36

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by Woofer 30.06.14 22:41

sallypelt wrote:I'm confused! If Robert Murat didn't fly out to Portugal until 1st may 2007, how could he have met Malinka at Baptista's on the 30th of April. Or have I got my wires crossed?

No you haven`t got your wires crossed - Malinka does say he met Murat and Michaela on the 30th April 2007.

by sallypelt 30.06.14 22:47

Woofer wrote:
sallypelt wrote:I'm confused! If Robert Murat didn't fly out to Portugal until 1st may 2007, how could he have met Malinka at Baptista's on the 30th of April. Or have I got my wires crossed?

No you haven`t got your wires crossed - Malinka does say he met Murat and Michaela on the 30th April 2007.

Thank you, woofer. I thought I was losing it. titter

by **Tony Bennett** 30.06.14 22:49

sallypelt wrote:I'm confused! If Robert Murat didn't fly out to Portugal until 1st may 2007, how could he have met Malinka at Baptista's on the 30th of April. Or have I got my wires crossed?

sallypelt,

Yes, I've looked at the Malinka statement a couple of pages back, he seems to be saying that Robert Murat called him by 'phone on 29 April and then met Murat on 30 April.

I have always assumed that Murat's flight details are 100% established fact, i.e. he caught IIRC the plane from Exeter to Faro at 7am on Tuesday 1 May.

Here it is relevant to bring in a document I've published many times before on the forum:

Robert Murat's 17 Lies

You mignt recall that this is a compilation I made based on a series of lies told by Robert Murat when first interviewed on 15 May by the police. He was re-interviewed by police on 10 and 11 July after the police had had time to interrogate his mobile 'phone and check where his mobile 'phone 'pinged' on local mobile 'phone mast antennae. These showed he had comprehensively lied to police about his movements from 1 to 4 May. He now made an entirely fresh statement to police, blaming his earlier lies on 'being too tired to tell the truth' [IMO he should have been prosecuted for attempting to pervert the course of justice].

Here's his list of 17 lies - have a look at lies 2 & 3:

1.     Remembers that on 1 May he tried to contact Jorge da Silva.

2.     Remembers that on 2 May he didn’t leave home at 10.30am but instead had a meeting with Sergei Malinka at the Batista Supermarket.

3.     He had in fact taken Michaela and Malinka back to his mother’s house in Praia da Luz for a further discussion, something he’d omitted to tell the police in the first interview.

4.     He now remembered visiting his bank and paying in 287.51 euros.

5.     He now remembered he’d called at the home of Francisco Pagarete, his lawyer, that morning.

6.     He now remembers that he had met Francisco Pagarete that afternoon.

7.     He now remembers that another of Jorge’s sons was present at their meeting in the café in the afternoon.

8.     The meeting in the café went on much longer than he had said previously.

9.     He thinks that Michaela Walczuk’s husband Luis Antonio may not have been present at Michaela’s house that evening, contrary to what he had previously said.

10.            On 3 May, he had not woken at 9.00am as previously stated, but at 8.00am.

11.            He had not driven to Michaela’s house that morning after 10.00am as previously stated; instead he had left home at 8.45am for a 9.30am meeting with the owner of the business tourist complex called ‘Gold Bunker’ in the Espiche district and her father-in-law.

12.            He now remembered that he and Michaela had visited two apartments for about 30 minutes, probably on the afternoon of 3 May.

13.            He and Michaela had lunch with the owner of the ‘Gold Bunker’ complex and her father-in-law, a fact he had not disclosed to police before.

14.            Michaela’s daughter C______ was not with them that day, contrary to his previous story.

15.            They went to the Palmares Golf Club in the afternoon, another fact Murat had failed to disclose.

16.            He now admitted to making two telephone calls, to Sergei Malinka and Michaela, at 11.39pm and 11.40pm that night.

17.            He previously said he had woken at 9.00am on Friday 4 May. He now admitted he had telephoned Michaela at 8.27am and must have got up earlier.

The above would suggest simply that Malinka got his dates wrong and actually met Murat on Wednesday 2 May, NOT Monday 30 April.

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by sallypelt 30.06.14 23:01

Tony Bennett wrote:
sallypelt wrote:I'm confused! If Robert Murat didn't fly out to Portugal until 1st may 2007, how could he have met Malinka at Baptista's on the 30th of April. Or have I got my wires crossed?
sallypelt,

Yes, I've looked at the Malinka statement a couple of pages back, he seems to be saying that Robert Murat called him by 'phone on 29 April and then met Murat on 30 April.

I have always assumed that Murat's flight details are 100% established fact, i.e. he caught IIRC the plane from Exeter to Faro at 7am on Tuesday 1 May.

Here it is relevant to bring in a document I've published many times before on the forum:

Robert Murat's 17 Lies

You mignt recall that this is a compilation I made based on a series of lies told by Robert Murat when first interviewed on 15 May by the police. He was re-interviewed by police on 10 and 11 July after the police had had time to interrogate his mobile 'phone and check where his mobile 'phone 'pinged' on local mobile 'phone mast antennae. These showed he had comprehensively lied to police about his movements from 1 to 4 May. He now made an entirely fresh statement to police, blaming his earlier lies on 'being too tired to tell the truth' [IMO he should have been prosecuted for attempting to pervert the course of justice].

Here's his list of 17 lies - have a look at lies 2 & 3:

1.     Remembers that on 1 May he tried to contact Jorge da Silva.

2.     Remembers that on 2 May he didn’t leave home at 10.30am but instead had a meeting with Sergei Malinka at the Batista Supermarket.

3.     He had in fact taken Michaela and Malinka back to his mother’s house in Praia da Luz for a further discussion, something he’d omitted to tell the police in the first interview.

4.     He now remembered visiting his bank and paying in 287.51 euros.

5.     He now remembered he’d called at the home of Francisco Pagarete, his lawyer, that morning.

6.     He now remembers that he had met Francisco Pagarete that afternoon.

7.     He now remembers that another of Jorge’s sons was present at their meeting in the café in the afternoon.

8.     The meeting in the café went on much longer than he had said previously.

9.     He thinks that Michaela Walczuk’s husband Luis Antonio may not have been present at Michaela’s house that evening, contrary to what he had previously said.

10.            On 3 May, he had not woken at 9.00am as previously stated, but at 8.00am.

11.            He had not driven to Michaela’s house that morning after 10.00am as previously stated; instead he had left home at 8.45am for a 9.30am meeting with the owner of the business tourist complex called ‘Gold Bunker’ in the Espiche district and her father-in-law.

12.            He now remembered that he and Michaela had visited two apartments for about 30 minutes, probably on the afternoon of 3 May.

13.            He and Michaela had lunch with the owner of the ‘Gold Bunker’ complex and her father-in-law, a fact he had not disclosed to police before.

14.            Michaela’s daughter C______ was not with them that day, contrary to his previous story.

15.            They went to the Palmares Golf Club in the afternoon, another fact Murat had failed to disclose.

16.            He now admitted to making two telephone calls, to Sergei Malinka and Michaela, at 11.39pm and 11.40pm that night.

17.            He previously said he had woken at 9.00am on Friday 4 May. He now admitted he had telephoned Michaela at 8.27am and must have got up earlier.

The above would suggest simply that Malinka got his dates wrong and actually met Murat on Wednesday 2 May, NOT Monday 30 April.

Add to this that Murat said that he and Michaela Walczuk "weren't in a relationship" as they were of different religions, he then goes on to marry her. Another lie?

Gerry McCann, when asked if he knew R Murat, said "I am not going to answer that".

It's becoming extremely interesting, and maybe it's not a whitewash after all. But I will hold judgement to see how things unfold over the next few days.