Re: 3 Prime Suspects Identified

by marconi 12.01.14 22:00

Since the Met police got involved in the case, we never heard of any new sightings anymore.

by worriedmum 12.01.14 22:56

I wonder how the cadaver odour will be explained. Any defence lawyer worth their salt is likely to bring up the findings of Eddie and Keela, especially with regards to the Renault Scenic. And they might refer to other cases, like the Zapata one mentioned by Gerry McCann.

by suzyjohnson 12.01.14 23:01

worriedmum wrote:I wonder how the cadaver odour will be explained. Any defence lawyer worth their salt is likely to bring up the findings of Eddie and Keela, especially with regards to the Renault Scenic. And they might refer to other cases, like the Zapata one mentioned by Gerry McCann.

They also might well ask what opportunity anyone had to take MM in between all the checking.

by plebgate 13.01.14 4:10

worriedmum wrote:Could there have been three hiding places in 5a?

by **PeterMac** 13.01.14 7:56

by **PeterMac** 13.01.14 8:03

"Name please.
"Jose Alvares Silva
"Occupation ?
"Burglar
"Did you burgle apartment 5A in PdL on 3 /5/ 7 ?
"No.
"OH, bugger. Sorry. You are free to leave.
"Next please.
"Name ?
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by biggurllypants 13.01.14 8:49

marconi wrote:Since the Met police got involved in the case, we never heard of any new sightings anymore.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Can someone please explain to me how SY think they are going to get the PJ to agree or how they are going to get those burglars to UK and charge them ? What are they hoping to charge them with Using a mobile phone too much ? Another load of spin from the mccann spin doctors

by Guest 13.01.14 8:55

suep wrote:A thought experiment only…
Lets suppose just for a moment that burglars DID get into apartment 5A that night.
Lets also suppose that whilst rummaging around they found MBM’s body in that cupboard, under a pile of dirty washing perhaps.
Lets imagine that the body falls out of the cupboard and in their panic they can’t get it back in because rigor mortis had now set in making it difficult. What do they do with it?
They hide it behind the sofa and dumbfounded make a swift getaway, each leaving in a different direction and later communicating by mobile phone.
Lets also imagine that prior to stumbling upon the body one of them had pocketed Gerry’s wallet complete with credit card(s).
Kate comes along to do her check, looks in the cupboard to find no Madeleine, cowering or otherwise, panics and runs over to the rest of the gang screaming words to the effect “She’s been taken!”.
They all rush back to search and soon find her behind the sofa and the original cunning plan goes ahead. However, they now know that someone out there knows their secret. And Gerry eventually discovers his wallet has been stolen…
What do they do next?

Like I said...just a thought experiment...

Can you imagine the phone call?

Phil: Hello?
Gerry: It's a disaster!
Phil: Gerry? Is that you? Why are you calling at this time of night?
Gerry: (roars like a bull)
Phil: Now calm down Tiny Tears and tell me what's wrong.
Gerry: (mumbling between sobs) ...wallet stolen ...Margaret gone!
Phil: WHAT!?!?!?
Gerry: ....stards jemmied shutters.
Phil: Oh my God. Oh no no no no no. How much money did you have in your wallet?

rotfl

by biggurllypants 13.01.14 9:01

Poe wrote:
suep wrote:A thought experiment only…
Lets suppose just for a moment that burglars DID get into apartment 5A that night.
Lets also suppose that whilst rummaging around they found MBM’s body in that cupboard, under a pile of dirty washing perhaps.
Lets imagine that the body falls out of the cupboard and in their panic they can’t get it back in because rigor mortis had now set in making it difficult. What do they do with it?
They hide it behind the sofa and dumbfounded make a swift getaway, each leaving in a different direction and later communicating by mobile phone.
Lets also imagine that prior to stumbling upon the body one of them had pocketed Gerry’s wallet complete with credit card(s).
Kate comes along to do her check, looks in the cupboard to find no Madeleine, cowering or otherwise, panics and runs over to the rest of the gang screaming words to the effect “She’s been taken!”.
They all rush back to search and soon find her behind the sofa and the original cunning plan goes ahead. However, they now know that someone out there knows their secret. And Gerry eventually discovers his wallet has been stolen…
What do they do next?

Like I said...just a thought experiment...

Can you imagine the phone call?

Phil: Hello?
Gerry: It's a disaster!
Phil: Gerry? Is that you? Why are you calling at this time of night?
Gerry: (roars like a bull)
Phil: Now calm down Tiny Tears and tell me what's wrong.
Gerry: (mumbling between sobs) ...wallet stolen ...Margaret gone!
Phil: WHAT!?!?!?
Gerry: ....stards jemmied shutters.
Phil: Oh my God. Oh no no no no no. How much money did you have in your wallet?

My problem is I cant imagine

by **PeterMac** 13.01.14 9:41

If there were three burglars, why didn't they take one child each.
Surely three are worth more than one
and the mysterious sedation substance was clearly working well.

As it is only one got the child - the others didn't even bother with the camera or passports,.
In fact the more one thinks about it, all SY and PJ had to do was to go down to the Dole office and see which burglars were signing on, because they had not grasped what burglary was all about

by Guest 13.01.14 9:43

PeterMac wrote:If there were three burglars, why didn't they take one child each.
Surely three are worth more than one
and the mysterious sedation substance was clearly working well.

As it is only one got the child - the others didn't even bother with the camera or passports,.
In fact the more one thinks about it, all SY and PJ had to do was to go down to the Dole office and see which burglars were signing on, because they had not grasped what burglary was all about

A point I made earlier. If "burglars" enter a property and leave with nothing but a child, they're not exactly burglars, are they?

Why don't the PJ just arrest them for burglary, if so much is known about their activities, identities etc.?

by Smokeandmirrors 13.01.14 9:55

QUESTIONS THAT NEED ASKING ABOUT THIS LATEST "DEVELOPMENT"

1) Would burglars still have the same mobile phones / number 6 1/2 yrs later?
2) Would they have had a "traceable" phone, or throw away PAYG phones?
3) IF they had stolen a child, and following the years long circus, would they still be living in the area, or indeed, Portugal?
4) Would they still be known by their real names?
5) Would they have kept their appearance the same?
6) Would they still be in contact with one another?
7) Would they be sitting at home now, waiting for a knock on the door now that they have been forewarned?
8) Wouldn't the only way they could all now be arrested is if they are in jail for other crimes?
9) If the police know who they were, long enough to be writing letters, why would the PJ not have already arrested them and hence
restoring their reputation which the great British media has done their best to destroy?
10)On what grounds could they possibly be traced, and where is the physical evidence that they were in 5a?

Let's see if the trial resumes this week, normally these stories come @ 72 hrs before real news.

by Doug D 13.01.14 10:18

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Well that’s sorted then & they even escaped in a Renault Scenic!

by worriedmum 13.01.14 10:34

PeterMac wrote:If there were three burglars, why didn't they take one child each.
Surely three are worth more than one
and the mysterious sedation substance was clearly working well.

As it is only one got the child - the others didn't even bother with the camera or passports,.
In fact the more one thinks about it, all SY and PJ had to do was to go down to the Dole office and see which burglars were signing on, because they had not grasped what burglary was all about

Great points PeterMac ! Also...

Why didn't they jemmy the shutters?
If they entered through the unlocked patio door, why didn't they open drawers and search before they got to the children's room?
If they didn't get to Madeleine's room, (because she was out of bed?), why did people think the twins were sedated? By whom?What could two sleeping toddlers in high-sided cots in a dark room reveal?
If they entered with a key, through the front door, when did they have the chance to do this unobserved and where did they park their car? Why have they never been mentioned before?
How does this fit in with, if at all, with 'why didn't you come when...' ?
Should they be asked about the pink blanket?
Did they bump into the soothing couple?

by **PeterMac** 13.01.14 10:58

worriedmum wrote:
Did they bump into the soothing couple?

There was clearly quite a party going on in 5A that night.
Three burglars, a soothing couple, sporadic visits by GM, then Oldfield,
all popping in to watch the football ?

by worriedmum 13.01.14 11:09

I wonder if crecheman saw anything?

by Guest 13.01.14 11:18

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From the linked article:

What I have said all these years is that when the number three appears in a statement take a closer look at it. Ask a few more questions about this area of the statement. The use of the number three is not an absolute but an indication of deception.

Number 3 is the "liars number". How many burglars were there again?

by sallypelt 13.01.14 11:19

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From the linked article:
What I have said all these years is that when the number three appears in a statement take a closer look at it. Ask a few more questions about this area of the statement. The use of the number three is not an absolute but an indication of deception.

Number 3 is the "liars number". How many burglars were there again?

"Two professionals and 1 Ocean Worker" Mrs

by sallypelt 13.01.14 11:20

PeterMac wrote:
worriedmum wrote:
Did they bump into the soothing couple?

There was clearly quite a party going on in 5A that night.
Three burglars, a soothing couple, sporadic visits by GM, then Oldfield,
all popping in to watch the football ?

But give them all credit. They didn't make a mess. In fact, they didn't even leave a trace of DNA. Now THAT takes some doing.

by Five Star 13.01.14 11:24

Where was the get away car? .... near the beach ?(fit burglars!) or at the car park the DOgS alerted too? If its the car park... that rules Smithman out!

IMO....

by Cristobell 13.01.14 11:40

PeterMac wrote:
worriedmum wrote:
Did they bump into the soothing couple?

There was clearly quite a party going on in 5A that night.
Three burglars, a soothing couple, sporadic visits by GM, then Oldfield,
all popping in to watch the football ?

Don't forget the 6 cleaners and the guy hiding in the stairwell.

by Pershing36 13.01.14 12:06

Seemed to have more people hanging around in that place than a train station at rush hour.

by Hopespringseternal 13.01.14 12:21

Pershing36 wrote:Seemed to have more people hanging around in that place than a train station at rush hour.

Maybe SY should eliminate folk by asking what number ticket they had taken from the queue organising machine ( I hated those things in kids shoe shops...I always ended up about 30 numbers off their current customer)

by **PeterMac** 13.01.14 12:40

Poe wrote:
Number 3 is the "liars number". How many burglars were there again?

Who has EVER heard of THREE burglars, acting in concert.
Three is too many to trust.
(nine is far too many to trust !)

by **PeterMac** 13.01.14 12:41

Hopespringseternal wrote:
Maybe SY should eliminate folk by asking what number ticket they had taken from the queue organising machine ( I hated those things in kids shoe shops...I always ended up about 30 numbers off their current customer)

APARTMENT NUMBER 5 A, PLEASE !

by suzyjohnson 13.01.14 12:57

PeterMac wrote:
worriedmum wrote:
Did they bump into the soothing couple?

There was clearly quite a party going on in 5A that night.
Three burglars, a soothing couple, sporadic visits by GM, then Oldfield,
all popping in to watch the football ?

A soothing couple doing a spot of burglary?

As Christobell says add in 6 cleaners and the man in the stairwell.

And don't forget tractorman. And Mrs Fenn in the apartment upstairs didn't see any of these people.

by sallypelt 13.01.14 13:07

Does anyone have the Local news in the Leicester? area? According the wonderful inside knowledge that TJ73, she states:

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Madeleine [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is 10 years old and there is to be talk of her on the local news after BBC news at 1. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] They are going to discuss NSY and the latest interest in the 3 Burglars/abductors I presume. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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by jeanmonroe 13.01.14 13:13

sallypelt wrote:Does anyone have the Local news in the Leicester? area? According the wonderful inside knowledge that TJ73, she states:

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Madeleine [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is 10 years old and there is to be talk of her on the local news after BBC news at 1. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] They are going to discuss NSY and the latest interest in the 3 Burglars/abductors I presume. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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EM News:

"F**k the burglars"!

by Guest 13.01.14 13:19

"3 years old." "3 minutes, 30 seconds, 30 minutes." "3rd may." "3 burglars."
Did these people copyright the number three as a brand name or something.

by Cristobell 13.01.14 13:24

sallypelt wrote:Does anyone have the Local news in the Leicester? area? According the wonderful inside knowledge that TJ73, she states:

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Madeleine [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is 10 years old and there is to be talk of her on the local news after BBC news at 1. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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[ltr]@TrulyJudy73[/ltr]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] They are going to discuss NSY and the latest interest in the 3 Burglars/abductors I presume. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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[ltr]@TrulyJudy73[/ltr]
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I will report back after it has aired. Maybe you have EMNews? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]