Re: Mccann's refused permission to give evidence

by sallypelt 03.01.14 11:34

I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF 7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page

by sallypelt 03.01.14 11:35

martinbrunt ‏@skymartinbrunt 16m
#madeleine McCann's lawyer will appeal the judge's decision. The hearing is expected to finish on Tuesday.
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by scrants 03.01.14 11:36

Martin Brunt has tweeted that Mccann's have been refused permission to give evidence in libel trial. They will appeal the decision.

by NickE 03.01.14 11:36

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by Cristobell 03.01.14 11:38

sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF 7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page

What a shame! I would have liked to have heard what they had to say. I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

by sallypelt 03.01.14 11:41

Cristobell wrote:
sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF 7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page

What a shame! I would have liked to have heard what they had to say. I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

Wasn't it written evidence that the McCann's wanted to give?

by Tangled Web 03.01.14 11:42

If true, maybe the judge has heard more than enough.

by Guest 03.01.14 11:46

Thank you. Although already on the twitter thread, I will leave this so that it will be easy to find for future reference. Here are Brunty's tweets.

martinbrunt ‏@skymartinbrunt 26m
#madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial over ex-cop Goncalo Amaral'sbook.

martinbrunt ‏@skymartinbrunt 25m
#madeleine McCann's lawyer will appeal the judge's decision. The hearing is expected to finish on Tuesday.

by Cristobell 03.01.14 11:47

sallypelt wrote:
Cristobell wrote:
sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF 7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page

What a shame! I would have liked to have heard what they had to say. I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

Wasn't it written evidence that the McCann's wanted to give?

I thought they wanted to go in the witness box Sally, but I may be wrong. It would have made great theatre, which might be the reason the Judge turned them down.

by Guest 03.01.14 11:48

If so, here we have a ground for the appeal: we were not heard so we had no fair trail

by sallypelt 03.01.14 11:49

Cristobell wrote:
sallypelt wrote:
Cristobell wrote:
sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF 7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page

What a shame! I would have liked to have heard what they had to say. I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

Wasn't it written evidence that the McCann's wanted to give?

I thought they wanted to go in the witness box Sally, but I may be wrong. It would have made great theatre, which might be the reason the Judge turned them down.

Christobell, you may be correct. It was just that I had heard, a few weeks back that they wanted to give written evidence, rather than appear in person, but it was just hearsay, and I have no evidence to say that this is the case.

by Guest 03.01.14 11:50

Cristobell wrote:
sallypelt wrote:
Cristobell wrote:
sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF 7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page

What a shame! I would have liked to have heard what they had to say. I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

Wasn't it written evidence that the McCann's wanted to give?

I thought they wanted to go in the witness box Sally, but I may be wrong. It would have made great theatre, which might be the reason the Judge turned them down.

Precisely! And of course it would have added new nothing to the stuff dished out by the previous witnesses for the claimants

by IKNOWWHATHAPPENED 03.01.14 11:57

I never expected them to take the stand.

They are involving lawyers to try and fool the public into thinking the Portuguese Judicial system is being unfair to them.

Katie and the wee man really are something else.

by Liz Eagles 03.01.14 12:01

IKNOWWHATHAPPENED wrote:I never expected them to take the stand.

They are involving lawyers to try and fool the public into thinking the Portuguese Judicial system is being unfair to them.

Katie and the wee man really are something else.

This is a libel trial. It's not a criminal court.

The UK MSM have steered well clear of reporting on this. If Martin Brunt is tweeting snips of info then why don't his paymasters report the whole of the libel trial and the reason for it?

by Cristobell 03.01.14 12:02

[copied over from other thread]

Portia wrote:If so, here we have a ground for the appeal: we were not heard so we had no fair trail

I don't know if they will get away with that Portia as originally they were not going to appear, Gerry requested permission halfway through when he realised how badly their case was going. They are probably bitterly disappointed - egotists that they are, they probably believed a last minute plea to the Judge would erase all the crap she has heard so far and turn things around.

So if no more witnesses are to be heard, the final day will just consist of the Summing up by the lawyers for each party, as I understand it.

by Guest 03.01.14 12:02

Is this another attempt by the mccanns 'to slow down time just a little'.
They are fast losing face,they astound me.

by Seek truth 03.01.14 12:04

Cristobell wrote:
sallypelt wrote:
Cristobell wrote:
sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF 7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page

What a shame! I would have liked to have heard what they had to say. I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

Wasn't it written evidence that the McCann's wanted to give?

I thought they wanted to go in the witness box Sally, but I may be wrong. It would have made great theatre, which might be the reason the Judge turned them down.

Great theatre indeed!

But NO we can't have that,
Mustn't put the SPECIAL MCCANNS through that !!!

As usual

by SixMillionQuid 03.01.14 12:04

Portia wrote:If so, here we have a ground for the appeal: we were not heard so we had no fair trail

I would counter argue they are not on trial. They brought the case against the inspector, its been delayed numerous times and they've had enough time to prepare their arguments. Any info gleaned from Operation Grange will be ignored as they were not in existence when they instructed their lawyers to sue the inspector. The exit is that way, have a nice day. big grin

by Jontait 03.01.14 12:15

Could it be to ensure that they do not say anything in court that could influence any future criminal court case?

by Liz Eagles 03.01.14 12:24

Instead of speculating, why not wait until Tuesday?

by Bishop Brennan 03.01.14 12:28

In the end this is a libel trial - quite technical compared to a criminal trial in the UK. Either the book constitutes libel or it doesn't. Hearing from Kate and Gerry (or indeed amaral) doesn't really add anything. The judge has to make a technical decision about libel, and if there is libel then a decision about the extent of damage.

Sounds like the judge has heard enough to make the decisions required. I imagine whoever loses will appeal. That is a given.

by tiny 03.01.14 12:32

I bet the mccanns are dancing with joy now they cant appear.

by Truthandjustice 03.01.14 12:35

I assume the judge has heard enough. If the Mc's were unable to produce professionally qualified witnesses to back up their claims then their own personal statements will add nothing. I am glad they have been denied the opportunity for more media manipulation because the press would have been all over it.

by Rasputin 03.01.14 12:45

Will this give them an excuse not to appear in person ?

by jeanmonroe 03.01.14 12:51

Cristobell wrote:
sallypelt wrote:
Cristobell wrote:
sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF 7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page

What a shame! I would have liked to have heard what they had to say. I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

Wasn't it written evidence that the McCann's wanted to give?

I thought they wanted to go in the witness box Sally, but I may be wrong. It would have made great theatre, which might be the reason the Judge turned them down.

Conveniently forgetting to tell people that they were NOT on the 'witness' list at any time.

And conveniently 'forgetting' that they could have 'over ruled' their lawyer ID and gone into the witness box on the very first day, if they had wanted to be heard 'personally'

by tiny 03.01.14 12:54

Truthandjustice wrote:I assume the judge has heard enough. If the Mc's were unable to produce professionally qualified witnesses to back up their claims then their own personal statements will add nothing. I am glad they have been denied the opportunity for more media manipulation because the press would have been all over it.

Can you imagine what the press will write about this now.poor mccanns and more poor mccanns.

they had no intention of going on the stand it was all a bluff ,so I am for one disappionted that they are not allowed to speak.

by jeanmonroe 03.01.14 13:02

Sallypet wrote:
"but it was just hearsay,"
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As was all their 'witnesses' brilliant 'evidence' given on their behalf!

I hope Emma Loach has 'found' all the many copies of GA's book, in the UK book shops, everywhere!

And brings them to court on Tuesday, just to prove she didn't 'fib' in her court 'evidence' you'll understand.

by tiny 03.01.14 13:05

jeanmonroe wrote:Sallypet wrote:
"but it was just hearsay,"
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As was all their 'witnesses' brilliant 'evidence' given on their behalf!

I hope Emma Loach has 'found' all the many copies of GA's book, in the UK book shops, everywhere!

And brings them to court on Tuesday, just to prove she didn't 'fib' in her court 'evidence' you'll understand.

Piss poor witnesses to be exact[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]they were the mccanns downfall

by Cristobell 03.01.14 13:06

jeanmonroe wrote:
Cristobell wrote:
sallypelt wrote:
Cristobell wrote:
sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF 7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page

What a shame! I would have liked to have heard what they had to say. I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

Wasn't it written evidence that the McCann's wanted to give?

I thought they wanted to go in the witness box Sally, but I may be wrong. It would have made great theatre, which might be the reason the Judge turned them down.

Conveniently forgetting to tell people that they were NOT on the 'witness' list at any time.

And conveniently 'forgetting' that they could have 'over ruled' their lawyer ID and gone into the witness box on the very first day, if they had wanted to be heard 'personally'

Another example of their crazy risk taking I think Jean. They will of course use this to say the Portuguese hate them (because of Goncalo Amaral) and they weren't given a fair trial. As you say, the fact that it was always within their power to give evidence in the witness box will probably be overlooked.

by jeanmonroe 03.01.14 13:27

Cristobell wrote:
As you say, the fact that it was always within their power to give evidence in the witness box will probably be overlooked.
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