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Post by Tony Bennett on 19.12.12 0:08

A regular subject here has been the career of strange Madeira lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia. I won't repeat all that's been said. If anyone is interested to go further, search topics on this forum for 'Marcos Correia', and a lot of information comes up.

Of particular interest is that he was paid by the McCann Team, i.e. via dubious Spanish detective agency Metodo 3, to replace the existing lawyer for convicted murderess-of-her-own-daughter, Leonor Cipriano. He began in April 2008 to represent her in an ongoing legal action against Goncalo Amaral and four other detectives, claiming that they had tortured and beaten her into making a confession. He succeeded in convicting Goncalo Amaral and one other of the offence of filing a false report. Amaral received a suspended prison term of 18 months for this, and nhis reputation suffered as a result of the conviction.

Earlier, on 10 December 2007, he had met with two Metodo 3 staff at the Arade Dam, Portugal. All those attending the dam meeting made a round trip of 1,000 miles or more to be there. Seven weeks later, a very public search for Madeleine's bones began at the dam, with Corriea claiming initially that he was doing it out of his own pocket. He also claimed he was acting on an underworld tip-off that Madeleine had been abducted, raped, killed and her body thrown into a murky lake.

This story unravelled in the succeeding weeks. He admitted his story about the underworld tip-off was a total lie, and then invented another totally implausible story as to whyhe got involved in the case. He also admitted that the McCann Team and Brian Kennedy had paid him via Metodo 3 to carry out these bogus searches.

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A report a few weeks ago suggested that Marcos Correia would be giving evidence on behalf of the McCanns at the forthcoming final hearing of the 4-year-long libel case of McCanns v Goncalo Amaral.

But this no longer looks likely, as according to a leading Portuguese paper, he has done a runner to Brazil.

Is he escaping from something?

The report was in

Diário de Notícias - Domingo, 16 de Dezembro de 2012 - Madeira

and was headed

Advogado Marcos Aragão passa testemunho no caso Joana

Advogado madeirense ruma ao brasil desiludido com o país onde nasceu


which is translated:

Lawyer Marcos Aragão have evidence in the Joana Cipriano case:

The Madeiran lawyer has headed for Brazil, disillusioned with the country he was born in


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1. The final trial of Dr Goncalo Amaral in the McCanns' long-running libel action against him is slated for 4 days and is due to begin on 24 January 2013. It commenced in June 2009. The McCanns LOST the last two hearings in the case and were ordered to pay costs. The two supreme Portuguese courts overruled a lower court which, the supreme courts said, had wrongly banned his book. Their costs in the case to date are estimated to be around £500,000. No-one knows where the money for this has come from

2. The McCanns' contempt of court action against me will be listed for two days, some time in the New Year. Despite hysterical and aggressive voices on the McCann-believer sites claiming that I have already been told the dates, I have not. I will notify members here within 24 hours of being given the dates. The McCanns have spent over £150,000 so far in their efforts to silence me.

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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie Mcann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Woofer on 19.12.12 0:26

Oh dear, so we`re going to miss his crack-pot performance in January - the Mcs should be pleased he won`t be there to embarrass them.
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Post by tiny on 19.12.12 8:27

Wonder if he was paid to move to brazil,he is another loose cannon.
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Post by PeterMac on 19.12.12 8:41

But Dr Amaral will surely want to call him, and may be able to make comment on his refusal to attend, particularly if he has already lodged an affidavit. (I am not familiar with Portuguese law !)

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Post by aiyoyo on 19.12.12 9:15

Maybe he was told to go into self exile (temporary) to avoid being called as witness as he would be disaster to team mccann.
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Post by PeterMac on 19.12.12 11:23

@aiyoyo wrote:Maybe he was told to go into self exile (temporary) to avoid being called as witness as he would be disaster to team mccann.
In which case Dr Amaral is surely justified is asking for an adjournment until he comes back, so that he can be properly cross examined.

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Post by Liz Eagles on 19.12.12 11:35

I don't understand how you can just opt to go to Brazil and that's the end of the matter. It's not a Portuguese colony and has no special agreement with Portugal as far as I'm aware. I should imagine you need a visa which has a time stipulation. I can't think a Portuguese citizen would be able to seek asylum in Brazil for any reason. When travelling to non European countries from Europe your passport is scanned and stamped with date of entry and date of duration of visa. It wouldn't take much to ascertain these details of a ligitimate visitor from Europe to a non European country.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I've travelled a lot and my experience of travelling outside Europe has always taken this procedure.
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Post by Observer on 19.12.12 11:46

aquila wrote:I don't understand how you can just opt to go to Brazil and that's the end of the matter. It's not a Portuguese colony and has no special agreement with Portugal as far as I'm aware. I should imagine you need a visa which has a time stipulation. I can't think a Portuguese citizen would be able to seek asylum in Brazil for any reason. When travelling to non European countries from Europe your passport is scanned and stamped with date of entry and date of duration of visa. It wouldn't take much to ascertain these details of a ligitimate visitor from Europe to a non European country.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I've travelled a lot and my experience of travelling outside Europe has always taken this procedure.
Remember how long Ronny Biggs remained in Brazil.
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Post by Liz Eagles on 19.12.12 12:00

@Observer wrote:
aquila wrote:I don't understand how you can just opt to go to Brazil and that's the end of the matter. It's not a Portuguese colony and has no special agreement with Portugal as far as I'm aware. I should imagine you need a visa which has a time stipulation. I can't think a Portuguese citizen would be able to seek asylum in Brazil for any reason. When travelling to non European countries from Europe your passport is scanned and stamped with date of entry and date of duration of visa. It wouldn't take much to ascertain these details of a ligitimate visitor from Europe to a non European country.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I've travelled a lot and my experience of travelling outside Europe has always taken this procedure.
Remember how long Ronny Biggs remained in Brazil.

Biggs was allowed to stay in Brazil as he had a Brazilian born child iirc.
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Post by Observer on 19.12.12 12:06

[quote="aquila"]
@Observer wrote:
aquila wrote:I don't understand how you can just opt to go to Brazil and that's the end of the matter. It's not a Portuguese colony and has no special agreement with Portugal as far as I'm aware. I should imagine you need a visa which has a time stipulation. I can't think a Portuguese citizen would be able to seek asylum in Brazil for any reason. When travelling to non European countries from Europe your passport is scanned and stamped with date of entry and date of duration of visa. It wouldn't take much to ascertain these details of a ligitimate visitor from Europe to a non European country.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I've travelled a lot and my experience of travelling outside Europe has always taken this procedure.
Remember how long Ronny Biggs remained in Brazil.


From Wikipedia.
In 1997 the UK and Brazil ratified an extradition treaty. Two months
later, the UK Government made a formal request to the Brazilian
government for Biggs' extradition. Biggs had stated that he would no
longer oppose extradition.[7]
English lawyer Nigel Sangster QC travelled to Brazil to advise Biggs.
The extradition request was rejected by Brazilian Supreme Court, giving
Biggs the right to live in Brazil for the rest of his life.
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Post by Liz Eagles on 19.12.12 12:12

@Observer wrote:
aquila wrote:
@Observer wrote:
aquila wrote:I don't understand how you can just opt to go to Brazil and that's the end of the matter. It's not a Portuguese colony and has no special agreement with Portugal as far as I'm aware. I should imagine you need a visa which has a time stipulation. I can't think a Portuguese citizen would be able to seek asylum in Brazil for any reason. When travelling to non European countries from Europe your passport is scanned and stamped with date of entry and date of duration of visa. It wouldn't take much to ascertain these details of a ligitimate visitor from Europe to a non European country.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I've travelled a lot and my experience of travelling outside Europe has always taken this procedure.
Remember how long Ronny Biggs remained in Brazil.

Biggs was allowed to stay in Brazil as he had a Brazilian born child iirc.
In 1997 the UK and Brazil ratified an extradition treaty. Two months
later, the UK Government made a formal request to the Brazilian
government for Biggs' extradition. Biggs had stated that he would no
longer oppose extradition.[7]
English lawyer Nigel Sangster QC travelled to Brazil to advise Biggs.
The extradition request was rejected by Brazilian Supreme Court, giving
Biggs the right to live in Brazil for the rest of his life.

That was 15 years ago and we're not talking about agreements made between UK and Brazil are we? Biggs had a child with a Brazilian national which gave rights. Back to basics now. You can't just be disillusioned with Portugal and take up full time residency and in Brazil and the protection of the country without applying for many things other than a visitor's visa. If that is the case then it wasn't a spur of the moment thing. A visa to gain residency in a non EU country is time consuming, needs pre-planning and is costly.
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Post by Observer on 19.12.12 12:35

I will try and find out if Brazil and Portugal have an extradition agreement in place, or perhaps one of our Portuguese posters could enlighten us.
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Post by ShuBob on 19.12.12 12:38

@PeterMac wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:Maybe he was told to go into self exile (temporary) to avoid being called as witness as he would be disaster to team mccann.
In which case Dr Amaral is surely justified is asking for an adjournment until he comes back, so that he can be properly cross examined.

The case has dragged on for a long time and I doubt it's in Amaral's interest to delay proceedings further.
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Post by Liz Eagles on 19.12.12 12:42

@Observer wrote:I will try and find out if Brazil and Portugal have an extradition agreement in place, or perhaps one of our Portuguese posters could enlighten us.

That would be great. I have recent experience of applying for a resident visa to a non-EU country. I had to leave every 90 days whilst the visa application was in process. I remained at all times a British subject and bound by the rules of the passport, the protection and laws of my country of origin. I had no rights other than visitors' rights in other countries.
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Post by Liz Eagles on 19.12.12 15:08

I took a look at JATYK2 this afternoon. I read this site. I don't disagree with some of their posts and I always find it good to have the opinion of the opposite end of the scales so to speak. It gives balance. I've had a mention on their forum (by name this time) and I am denied the opportunity to join the forum to reply as they are not taking new members.

So if it is ok with this forum I will respond to JATYK2 as someone on that forum is allowed to be a member of this forum. The particular post is about my recent experience of applying for a resident visa in a non-EU country. JATYK2 reliably inform that a fiancee counts as valid in Brazil. I suggest they download a visa application. It ain't that simple. Even co-habitation or spousal rights aren't simple unless you have money in the country and the honest can't put money into a country without a reasonable explanation and a paper trail. It's quite a complex process and I mean that in all honesty from my experience. My post was taken out of context but my own forum (that includes me) does that unwittingly with other people's posts at times so I'm not offended by any means.

I challenge anyone with an EU passport (in particular a British passport which still opens doors unavailable to other countries - it's still the best passport to have) to expect an easy time in pursuit of residency in a non-EU country.

I do get very cross with people who sit in the EU, take a couple of holidays and think they know what it's like to apply to live in another country. JATYK2 even suggest that Brazil is a bit of a short hop to Portugal and show an airline route. I have spent the last few years doing long haul. It's not a few hours believe me. I wonder how many people on JATYK2 have spent so much time doing long haul flights just to comply with their visa application whilst obeying the law.
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Post by aiyoyo on 19.12.12 15:38

@ShuBob wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:Maybe he was told to go into self exile (temporary) to avoid being called as witness as he would be disaster to team mccann.
In which case Dr Amaral is surely justified is asking for an adjournment until he comes back, so that he can be properly cross examined.

The case has dragged on for a long time and I doubt it's in Amaral's interest to delay proceedings further.

Very likely Dr Amaral already has a strong case and won't need to call Mad Marcos to the witness stand.
From what I understand, if Mad Marcos were to be witness, it would be for the Mccanns side.
He may have been under legal advice to leg it out of town. One loud mouth aggressive Marinho Pinto appearing as witness for ID is disaster enough, imagine combining that with Mad Marcos appearing for ID as well, that would surely turn the Court into a circus with catastrophic result for team Mccanns.




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Post by littlepixie on 19.12.12 22:34

The family involved in the the last Michael Jackson trial had one way tickets to Brazil bought for them. What is it about that Country and Court Cases?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4487835.stm
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[quote="littlepixie"]The family involved in the the last Michael Jackson trial had one way tickets to Brazil bought for them. What is it about that Country and Court Cases?

From what I understand, Brazil will not allow extradition unless the crime was committed within a certain time frame.
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Post by jamaljr on 20.12.12 12:15

From Twitter:

Goncalo_Amaral ‏@Scum_Cop_Amaral
Umweltbuerger: You do realise that Marcos Correia has gone to Brazil to get married and has NOT run away. #McCann oh go on
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Post by david_uk on 03.01.13 15:41

@jamaljr wrote:From Twitter:

Goncalo_Amaral ‏@Scum_Cop_Amaral
Umweltbuerger: You do realise that Marcos Correia has gone to Brazil to get married and has NOT run away. #McCann oh go on

So, Is this true, has Marcos only gone to get married in Brazil?

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Post by Guest on 03.01.13 17:15

I don't understand Twitter. Is the person with the delightful screen name relating to Goncalo Amaral the one saying that Marcos has gone to get married?

If so, the odds of being able to believe anything he (?) says are not very great.
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Post by ShabbyTiger on 03.01.13 21:56

Why do you keep doing this Tony???

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I think he has explained his views and motivation adequately elsewhere Mr Tiger.

Give it a rest please!
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Post by Liz Eagles on 03.01.13 22:43

May I ask Shabby Tiger to look at his/her own previous posts. Most of the questions he/she now asks are answered by his/her own posts with regards to his/her opinion of the Madeleine case and the motivation for looking further into what happened to Madeleine. It is imo a good thing to challenge Tony as it confirms why Tony and most people on this forum don't give up on finding the truth for Madeleine. Were it not for the dedication of people who devote a lot of time to bringing evidence and information to the forum there would be a lot less happening 'out there' away from the press releases etc to find out what happened to Madeleine.

Thanks Shabby Tiger.

Thanks Tony Bennett.

Thanks Hi-de-Ho.

Thanks to the stalwarts (not naming you all as it risks turning into an Oscar speech).

Thanks for a forum that allows debate.

Keep Going.
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Post by ShabbyTiger on 03.01.13 23:09

Yes I question the abduction story, and despise the McCanns "childcare" arrangements... but I would never, ever turn this into a personal vendetta where I try to get people struck off the medical register, contact Social Services or post leaflets to the neighbours.

Tony Bennett is not a "free speech martyr" in my opinion. As much as I disbelieve the McCanns abduction story, I would never have dreamed of targetting them personally. He is doing the "Justice for Madeleine" campaign more harm than good with his vendetta against the McCs and Smethurst.

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