Re: Scotland Yard have name of suspect

by russiandoll 16.10.13 11:37

If it was cut though CF how did the newspaper get to know about it?

I do not believe for a moment GA would damage his own case by smearing either McCann.

as far as I am concerned, the paper should have sourced that claim or not made it.

by ultimaThule 16.10.13 11:37

stillsloppingout wrote:
russiandoll wrote:the gutter press printed an outright lie about the interview, no surprise there aiyoyo
Amaral did NOT Name Gerry as the person smith saw on ITV last night . So GA is NOT prejudicing his libel case , He is way to smart for childish games , or to be drawn into a trap . If the MSM are mentioning it then that is good , those beige trousers will be a deeper shade of beige today .

RE Mr Smith . i thought he was paid a visit by Kennedy and his brief in Ireland .

Hopefully he was NOT got at ? paid off ? . told to muddy the waters ? .

those beige trousers will be a deeper shade of beige today as will the y-fronts, jockeys, sloggis and g-strings of many others exalt

Anyone noticed a bulletin from the pink one or another thinly veiled threat to Dr Amaral from the 'family source'?

by russiandoll 16.10.13 11:39

Pinkie M has only so far retweeted a met website thing

by sweetex 16.10.13 11:44

ultimaThule wrote:
stillsloppingout wrote:
russiandoll wrote:the gutter press printed an outright lie about the interview, no surprise there aiyoyo
Amaral did NOT Name Gerry as the person smith saw on ITV last night . So GA is NOT prejudicing his libel case , He is way to smart for childish games , or to be drawn into a trap . If the MSM are mentioning it then that is good , those beige trousers will be a deeper shade of beige today .

RE Mr Smith . i thought he was paid a visit by Kennedy and his brief in Ireland .

Hopefully he was NOT got at ? paid off ? . told to muddy the waters ? .

those beige trousers will be a deeper shade of beige today as will the y-fronts, jockeys, sloggis and g-strings of many others

Anyone noticed a bulletin from the pink one or another thinly veiled threat to Dr Amaral from the 'family source'?

On Joanna's website this morning was an article/interview with Goncalo. I need to look for the link again. He says the Smith's identified the man as McCann and hope they don't change their initial statements.

by sweetex 16.10.13 12:06

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How do you see the fact that only now Scotland Yard has presented an e-fit alleged to be of the main suspect? And of having made an arrest of another suspect?

- If the the e-fit is based on the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that, in the night of the facts, saw a man carrying a child walking towards the beach, that e-fit will have to be in someway similar to Gerry McCann, since it was that person [Martin Smith] that has identified him with a high degree of probability. Why was this published only now is something you will have to ask Scotland Yard. As to the "another suspect", no suspect was detained. It was someone who "bragged" about having seen Madeleine and it's alleged that he had paedophile material in his computer. Thus, his detention is not a direct result of any investigation related to the disappearance of the child.

Why was that e-fit only made now and which criteria are behind that arrest? Do you believe that it has any veracity and is it important for the investigation?

- I believe I have already answered partially to your question. If we are talking about the Irish family's testimony that I have referred to, then it has an enormous relevance to the investigation. We only hope that their initial statements aren't misrepresented and "rewritten".

by BigRon 17.10.13 8:14

Doesn't anyone else find it odd that no press at all seem to have picked up on Martin Smith's assertion that e fit man is Gerry?

Has the media been instructed not to repeat this part of his witness statement by SY?

Martin Smith has confirmed in so many words that he still thinks e fit man is Gerry so presumably SY has a witness statement also to this effect. Would they then deliberately alter e fit to make it not so obvious it's Gerry? They may be employing tactics as has already been discussed to break the T9 pact of silence.....

Or am I way too optimistic?

by Onager 17.10.13 8:44

BigRon wrote:Doesn't anyone else find it odd that no press at all seem to have picked up on Martin Smith's assertion that e fit man is Gerry?

Has the media been instructed not to repeat this part of his witness statement by SY?

Martin Smith has confirmed in so many words that he still thinks e fit man is Gerry so presumably SY has a witness statement also to this effect. Would they then deliberately alter e fit to make it not so obvious it's Gerry? They may be employing tactics as has already been discussed to break the T9 pact of silence.....

Or am I way too optimistic?

You may well be right, but I also feel we have to consider the wider environment....namely the current discussions surrounding the Leverson Inquiry. Given how big a story Madeleine remains, the last thing the media would wish to do, I expect, is shoot themselves in the foot by being a bit gun-ho. Having said that, there are more than enough facts available, as there have been for some time, for a thoroughly investigative journalist piece... without having to resort to sensationalism. But.. we're all human.

by **Tony Bennett** 17.10.13 8:51

BigRon wrote:Doesn't anyone else find it odd that no press at all seem to have picked up on Martin Smith's assertion that e fit man is Gerry?

Or even to say: "Martin Smith has made two statements to the Portuguese police, which have been widely available to read on the internet for over 5 years"

by Smokeandmirrors 17.10.13 9:06

BigRon wrote:Doesn't anyone else find it odd that no press at all seem to have picked up on Martin Smith's assertion that e fit man is Gerry?

Has the media been instructed not to repeat this part of his witness statement by SY?

Martin Smith has confirmed in so many words that he still thinks e fit man is Gerry so presumably SY has a witness statement also to this effect. Would they then deliberately alter e fit to make it not so obvious it's Gerry? They may be employing tactics as has already been discussed to break the T9 pact of silence.....

Or am I way too optimistic?

My guess is that what the press do NOT report are the bits we can deduce are the most important in the investigation. If they did report on the material most people know to be extremely important, they would be jeopardising a future trial.

We've seen it time and again in high profile cases, often the police know what happened, and while they are consolidating their evidence, they divert attention away to other inconsequential places so as to protect the integrity of the investigation.

We can be pretty certain that this is going on here, especially in a case that has had top billing for 6 1/2 years.

The Yard are toying with us. They know what happened, it's a game of nerves now IMO.

by MoonGoddess 17.10.13 9:19

Onager wrote:
BigRon wrote:Doesn't anyone else find it odd that no press at all seem to have picked up on Martin Smith's assertion that e fit man is Gerry?

Has the media been instructed not to repeat this part of his witness statement by SY?

Martin Smith has confirmed in so many words that he still thinks e fit man is Gerry so presumably SY has a witness statement also to this effect. Would they then deliberately alter e fit to make it not so obvious it's Gerry? They may be employing tactics as has already been discussed to break the T9 pact of silence.....

Or am I way too optimistic?
You may well be right, but I also feel we have to consider the wider environment....namely the current discussions surrounding the Leverson Inquiry. Given how big a story Madeleine remains, the last thing the media would wish to do, I expect, is shoot themselves in the foot by being a bit gun-ho. Having said that, there are more than enough facts available, as there have been for some time, for a thoroughly investigative journalist piece... without having to resort to sensationalism. But.. we're all human.

I think the press might be trying to get that little fact out in a subtle way, but having to discredit it at the same time....

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would like to know who these "dozens of witnesses" are, that placed GM at the OC