Kate McCann becomes ambassador for missing people

If this does turn out to be a very real death threat and she did plan to continue then it could jeopardise the whole event.
The police are not going to put other runners and their loved ones in jeopardy just so she can can run the marathon.

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tigger wrote:Accounts posted for Missing People Charity - salaries take up almost the yearly income - page 19 of the accounts.


2010 : £1.770.663

2011 : £ 1.891.520

An increase of £ 120.857,00 since last year. Can't imagine what might have changed in that time?

Well the increase is probably not because they've hired a few cleaners and bought a few white vans.

Here's the link, you have to scroll through when you think it's finished and from page 19 the other costs are given. The main income is from the post code lottery. After salaries are subtracted there's very little left. Then I'd also like to know what do al those volunteers do?

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Main income from the post code lottery.

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Fiona Phillips to be face of Postcode lottery. Is that the same FIona Phillips who called us all nutters because we questioned what the McCans were saying?

plebgate wrote:If this does turn out to be a very real death threat and she did plan to continue then it could jeopardise the whole event.
The police are not going to put other runners and their loved ones in jeopardy just so she can can run the marathon.

This is someone making a mouuntain out of a molehill, a non story

plebgate wrote:If this does turn out to be a very real death threat and she did plan to continue then it could jeopardise the whole event.
The police are not going to put other runners and their loved ones in jeopardy just so she can can run the marathon.

Commented on in the MM site, it looks like it was a play on words/joke. But pot calling kettle black, when it's Kate who has stated in her book and newspaper articles etc., which have been read by millions that she would like to kill xyz but can't, it could be taken by any slightly deranged 'obsessive Katy supporter' to be an incitement to follow her wishes for her.
You can't start a fire in someone else's straw barn and then demand a new law to ban all match box sales, for ever, because someone owning a box of matches might pose a threat.

yes tiny and if the police were alerted to a death threat then the starter gun story could always be used to make sure nobody was ever arrested. I asks ya.

Yes Plebgate it's that Fiona Phillips, the one who supports the McCanns because she once left her children unattended in a hotel room and they ran amok (we've all done it, haven't we?) but hasn't managed to do any further research to make her realise she's being taken for a ride.

Ah yes I thought it was the same one Jean. A small old world isn't it?

I guess it is a possibility that the likes of muratfan and his cronies would stoop this low but it will be easy for the police to identify these posters just as they did with people inciting riot on facebook in the not so distant past.

It is my opinion however that just as there are those using the internet who are psychologially tied to the McCann cause for reasons which have nothing to do with logic, there are those that despise the couple and similarly their contempt and spite have no grounds in reason or logic.
These people are the ones posting abuse about Kate McCann just as irrational McCann supporters abuse those who do not believe the abduction story. For these extremists Maddie is not the issue, her parents are.

I do find it a bit rich for muratfan and co. to be getting on their high horses about death threats when they were posting pictures of a judge about to pronounce the death sentence during TB's recent court case.

There are a few disingenuous posts claiming the gun and bang were references to the starting pistol.....well the poster would have referred to it as a pistol, not a gun in that case, imo that is disingenuous nonsense to defend the indefensible.
I found some of the other posts sickening, it is not amusing to egg posters on with suggestions of runners dressed as sniffer dogs, runners each wearing a t shirt with one of the questions Kate refused to answer printed on it, or running wearing Maddie face masks. I think one even mentioned dressing as cuddle cat.
That is disrespectful to a little vanished child and they can't kid themselves that their actions are in any way out of support for Maddie and not motivated by contempt and hatred for her mother, pure and simple.

We're spoiled for choice now as to whom we sponsor.

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Let's hope she's been to Specsavers in recent years and can see clearly where she's going.

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Let's hope she's been to Specsavers in recent years and can see clearly where she's going.

Let's hope another charity runner dosen't dress up as an EGG MAN!
Hope she wears flip flops, so people can hear her coming and actually SEE her as she passes by right next to them!
Will the McCanns super sleuths Grabbit&Leggit (Cowley&Edgar) dress up as 'orange pickers' to spy on any 'lawless bandits' running in race but really looking for people to take back to their lair.?

jeanmonroe wrote:Will the McCanns super sleuths Grabbit&Leggit (Cowley&Edgar) dress up as 'orange pickers' to spy on any 'lawless bandits' running in race but really looking for people to take back to their lair.?

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Nope, this is what they're going as.

Does any of you innocents out there believe they existed in the first place?

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ShuBob wrote:Call me a cynic but the McCanns could well be behind the 'sick' messages supposedly targeting Kate.

According to muratfan on twitter this forum is due for closure when we get a letter from Carter Ruck which, presumably, is to be delivered 'Godfather-style' late at night by limousine. Muratfan does seem to be on a personal mission for TM and C-R to get this forum closed and to put TB in prison so it wouldn't surprise me if he's behind the 'sick' messages, as you say. The police only have to look at his internet history to see who the real sick troll is.

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Missing People is the UK member of Missing Children Europe (MCE) – a Europe-wide umbrella organisation representing voluntary organisations which work against child disappearance and sexual exploitation.

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Apart from his personal grievances against some members of this website I cannot see what the closure of this forum or any so called 'anti' forum will actually achieve. Surely the only way to develop efficient policies to combat the disappearance and sexual exploitation of children is to raise awareness of the issues despite differences of opinion.

Developing a European Database

Efficient policies to combat the disappearance and sexual exploitation of children should be based on evidence. While the disappearance and sexual exploitation or abuse of children are increasingly considered as alarming problems, even today no clear data are available on their extent.

Not only do the definitions used by organisations for the different categories of ‘missing’ and ‘sexually exploited’ differ, but the way in which data is collected does not allow for these figures to be compared. This is why unfortunately, no sound statistics can be provided on the number of children that go missing or become victims of sexual exploitation.

Missing Children Europe considers that the existing data is far from meeting the minimum criteria of reliability, and therefore has made one of its priorities to put data collection and analysis on the European agenda.

The absence of reliable data at European level should certainly not allow for the problem to be underestimated. Rough figures as reported by Missing Children Europe Members and other sources clearly indicate that the disappearance and sexual exploitation of children affect a very large number of children.

Confronted with the difficulties relating to the general lack of data on the extent of the phenomena of missing and sexually exploited children, Missing Children Europe submitted a request to the EU Fundamental Rights Agency (FRA) which is in charge of analysing and collecting data in the EU, to collect the aforementioned data. In 2008, Missing Children Europe also submitted an application to join the Fundamental Rights Platform, which was accepted favourably early in 2009.

Missing Children Europe continues to stress the importance of EU-wide multidisciplinary and integrated efforts in collecting epidemiological data as a basis for improved, knowledge-based policy-making in the area of missing and sexually exploited children.

European Affairs

Has anyone seen my child?

It is a drama that families hope they will never have to face: the disappearance of a child. Amid the panic and the stress it is crucial that a support system is quickly made available, on top of whatever action the police may take. And for help organisations on the ground, it is a key part of children’s rights.

Some cases receive a lot of media attention; others become a lonely struggle for families desperate for help.

An estimated one million children go missing every year in the European Union. These include runaways, criminal abductions, those abducted by a parent, the lost or injured, as well as missing unaccompanied migrant children.

Poland is one of the countries attempting to do something about it. Every few days at least three children under the age of 13 disappear there, and every day 10 teenagers are reported missing.

In Warsaw, Right On met a woman who has been searching for her niece for the past decade.

Seven-year-old Karina Surmacz was nowhere to be seen after her mother was found shot dead at home in 2002, along with her partner. It is possible the killings are linked to organised crime, but there has been no progress on solving the murders – or Karina’s disappearance.

Małgorzata Niemiec, Karina’s aunt, told euronews:

“People say she might be dead, that she was murdered. But until she is found somewhere, until I see her dead body, and there’s no doubt, for me she will continue to be alive. I’ll continue to wait for her.”

Karina’s family believe it is likely she was abducted by the killer. The girl’s duvet, shoes and other items were missing from her room.

Małgorzata said: “I hope that she is found, that she’s been happy over the years, that she has not gone without and has been healthy. I hope that she has had enough to eat. I really hope that she is found.”

For people like Karina’s aunt, missing people organisations provide crucial help and support.

A missing children hotline in Poland is part of a wider European project: the same number is now being used in most countries, and it can be a lifeline for distraught families.

Zuzanna Ziajko from the organisation “ITAKA – Centre for Missing People”, told Right On: “They don’t know how quickly the police should start to act, what it will involve, and often they’re only told that a child disappearance statement has been completed.

“They have to go home with this great burden, not knowing where their child is, not knowing how the search is organised. They don’t know how to cope with the problem.”

The hotline is for the reporting of cases, advice and support, and also for tipoffs from the public.

But it is also there for runaway teenagers, for example, to talk through the issues related to their disappearance.

Euronews’ Seamus Kearney reported: “All European countries were legally required to have the hotline number in operation by the end of May last year. Many have complied, but others are still to meet their obligations.

“In those countries it seems to be a question of cost and who pays, but also a lack of information and awareness. The pressure is now on to have the hotline number spread to all EU states.”

Luxembourg is the latest to introduce the hotline, and more launches are expected to follow.

Many of the operators are members of Missing Children Europe, an umbrella organisation that has been pushing for the single, dedicated number.

Hopes are high that the number of cases solved will now increase.

Despite its financial troubles, Greece is one of the most active countries when it comes to having systems in place for when children disappear.

Emergency services and volunteers are geared up to be quickly mobilised when the hotline receives an alert.

Right On spoke to one mother who rang the number when her four-year-old boy wandered away from a holiday home on the island of Andros last summer.

After rescue teams and local residents were scrambled, the child was located several hours later safe and sound.

The rescued boy’s mother told euronews: “At first I felt panic, but the young woman I spoke to on the hotline reassured me and told me to keep calm, saying they would help find the boy as quickly as possible.

“Gradually I tried to cooperate with them as I was in a terrible state psychologically. I thought I would never see him again, never find him.”

The organisation that runs Greece’s hotline, The Smile of the Child, was behind the setting up of a missing children response team, to have rescuers on the ground in the early stages of a disappearance.

Whether it is the police or the hotline that receives the alert first, the aim is to waste no time in sharing the information.

Vassilis Orfanos, Coordinator of the Missing Children Response Team, said: “It is very important for us, whenever a child has gone missing, to get notified very very quickly, so we can respond to the incident as fast as we can.”

Greece also has a public alert system for suspected abductions, flashing up on television and the likes of motorway signs.

The Greek hotline received almost 6,000 calls in 2011 and dealt with the cases of 120 missing children. Eight of those have still not been found. But cooperation seems to be the key.

Costas Yannopoulos, Chairman of “The Smile of the Child” told Right On: “We are uniting our forces. That has been our motto, the message we want to show. We are combining forces for the children.

“The Smile of the Child, the Red Cross, Greek Rescue Teams, the Police, the Fire Service, the Port Authorities, Civil Defence – all together with a single goal.”

That message is echoed by the police. A fully automated computer system has been established, allowing the centralising of information, which can then be spread in different formats within minutes.

Captain Panagiotis Papantonis from the Missing Persons Unit of the Greek Police told euronews: “This initiative is very important, and it’s very good that we were the first country to establish this service now operating in Greece.

“It has helped us in many disappearance cases, because while the parents may not have given us some piece of information, we received it anonymously through the hotline.”

And sometimes just one small clue from the public is all that is needed to bring a missing child home.

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Prepare yourselves for some pictures of Kate looking saintly in her caring for others role.

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Prepare yourselves for some pictures of Kate looking saintly in her caring for others role.

So she won't be 'searching' for her 'missing' daughter AGAIN, tonight!

I noticed that in the 'silent' auction is two days at Pete Townshens (sic) 'studios'

That would be the Pete Townshen (sic) who was put on the sex offenders register, for 5 years, for accessing child porn images!

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Prepare yourselves for some pictures of Kate looking saintly in her caring for others role.

So she won't be 'searching' for her 'missing' daughter AGAIN, tonight!

I noticed that in the 'silent' auction is two days at Pete Townshens (sic) 'studios'

That would be the Pete Townshen (sic) who was put on the sex offenders register, for 5 years, for accessing child porn images!

Now then now then now then.  Be fair! You must remember that he entered the site for "research purposes" only.

When does he publish this research? He must have spent some time thinking up a right-on title, like - "Wot I found out."

Perhaps he'll announce it over dinner tonight.

Perhaps he and Mark Williams-Thomas are preparing a joint report into their many hours of trawling the Internet on the hunt for child porn.......

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Annual Report and Accounts 2012 - 2013

Little bit disappointed to see that staff  'costs' at the charidy has gone UP to £1,710,751 FROM £1,522,985.
An INCREASE of £187,766. on the previous year.
Still, i'm sure there is still just enough money 'left' from 'donations' for actually promoting themselves missing people after taking their staff 'costs' away.
They don't say who is paying for their dinner gala.
Is it paid for from 'donations' to their charidy from a gullible generous public?

They might like to stop and think about the 'missing' people in the Philippines, tonight, in between quaffing their champers, and munching on the finest sardines smoked salmon, and giving each other back slapping self congratulations for their 'fund' raising efforts for their charidy!

Someone's got to pay the 'staff' haven't they?

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Missing People have updated their website (no, they haven't removed KM)

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This is the latest update on their homepage and the photograph says it all for me. 8 people in the photo of whom one is Jo Youle and the other a Mayor....so six people....planted a tree and Missing People give thanks to a lottery funding and tell us how many people they have re-united with their families. Note that Jo Youle and the Mayor are standing nowhere near the families (the photograph is of their choosing folks).

I can't fathom what this charity is about.

It's about STAFF 'COSTS' to the tune of £1,710,571 before a single penny is used for what the public's 'donations' were given for!

It is another P.A.C.T only on a massive scale!

aquila wrote:Just to add to jeanmonroe's info...


Missing People have updated their website (no, they haven't removed KM)

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This is the latest update on their homepage and the photograph says it all for me. 8 people in the photo of whom one is Jo Youle and the other a Mayor....so six people....planted a tree and Missing People give thanks to a lottery funding and tell us how many people they have re-united with their families. Note that Jo Youle and the Mayor are standing nowhere near the families (the photograph is of their choosing folks).

I can't fathom what this charity is about.

I wonder how much it cost to plant that tree, taking into account the expenses of the dignitaries attending?

It seems some "charities" think as long as money is coming in, it doesn't matter who fronts our campaigns.

And some wonder why/how Jimmy Savile got away with his misdemeanors throughout his lifetime!

Tragic!

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Annual Report and Accounts 2012 - 2013

Little bit disappointed to see that staff  'costs' at the charidy has gone UP to £1,710,751 FROM £1,522,985.
An INCREASE of £187,766. on the previous year.
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That link gives  an Error 404 for me :-(

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Annual Report and Accounts 2012 - 2013

Little bit disappointed to see that staff  'costs' at the charidy has gone UP to £1,710,751 FROM £1,522,985.
An INCREASE of £187,766. on the previous year.
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That link gives  an Error 404 for me :-(

Yeah , i know.
Don't know WHY, (or perhaps i DO!)

You wouldn't want 'donators' to actually see WHERE their donations are ACTUALLY 'going' if you were running this 'charidy'

Anyway, go to their home page/ about us/ what we do/ finances.
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Comes up as a PDF.
Save it.

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Perhaps he and Mark Williams-Thomas are preparing a joint report into their many hours of trawling the Internet on the hunt for child porn (for 'research' purposes).......

With Big Jim!

And Angis McBride, especially hired by the McCanns, who DEFENDED a now convicted paedophile, Chris Langham.

You tell the world your child has been 'abducted' by paedophiles and the first thing you do is hire a solicitor that DEFENDS paedophiles!

Ain't it strange that all these 'defenders' of 'vulnerable underaged girls' are all middle aged MEN?