“They need to do what’s right for Madeleine.’’

“They need to do what’s right for Madeleine.’’
Says Grandma Susan Healy.

What i was wondering is, with Susan Healy being in Portugal on 6th May 2013, accompanying 'our Kate' on her visit to be where she feels closest to Madeleine, why didn't the totally bereft grandmother of Madeleine, drive, drag, or force her daughter, the mother of her missing grand daughter, to the nearest PJ office and get her daughter to demand, personally, that the case of her missing child be re-opened, unshelved, instantly?
As is her right and fully entitled to.
What other mother, on this Earth, would NOT demand, in writing or personally, for THAT?
Did she, Susan Healy, as the distraught Grandmother of a missing child, herself, go to the PJ, whilst in Portugal recently, with or without Kates knowledge, go to the PJ to ask, and demand, them to re-open the case?
That would have been what's right for Madeleine, Mrs Healy.
Has ANYONE from the missing childs immediate and wider family ever spoken to ANY Portuguese authority to demand they unshelve the investigation?
That would be what's right for Madeleine, wouldn't it Mrs Healy.?
If, as i suspect, not a single one of Madeleines 'family' has approached, personally, the Portuguese investigating authorities, to demand the re-opening of the case of their missing family member, then why should ANYONE else bother?
If NONE of the 'distraught family' can't be bothered to do this 'little thing', why are they always complaining, ad nauseum, that no one is doing anything to 'find' Madeleine?
THEY have done and are doing nothing, why do the EXPECT that EVERYONE else, except themselves, should have to do 'something'?
It is her granddaughter that is missing, what has she ACTUALLY done to get her back?
What did the T9, the McCann family and the Healy's DO yesterday to 'find' Madeleine?

you are spot on there

Good questions, maybe the press will start asking the same of them? Wont hold breath though.

Yes, everyone else has to look and take posters on holiday, wear wrist bands etc. Why do they expect that people will continue doing so. Get back to Portugal and answer some questions, then maybe the gen. public will start to do as they ask.

Bringing out Granny yesterday, errrr what was the point?

Will we shortly be seeing the honour of "National Treasure" next for Granny. It would not surprise me in the least.

As far as I am aware Susan Healy didn't go to Portugal. Kate was there with Susan Hubbard. The Daily Mail got it wrong.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321551/Madeleine-McCann-disappearance-Kate-McCann-returns-Portuguese-resort-6th-anniversary.html

plebgate wrote:Good questions, maybe the press will start asking the same of them? Wont hold breath though.

Yes, everyone else has to look and take posters on holiday, wear wrist bands etc. Why do they expect that people will continue doing so. Get back to Portugal and answer some questions, then maybe the gen. public will start to do as they ask.

Bringing out Granny yesterday, errrr what was the point?

Will we shortly be seeing the honour of "National Treasure" next for Granny. It would not surprise me in the least.

The press, at least the British one will never ask that. They repeatedly say: the case will only be reopened if there's new evidence.
They tend to purposely ignore the fact that the Mccanns can ask for it.
As to grandma Healey I don't really know what to think, to be honest.

chrissie wrote:As far as I am aware Susan Healy didn't go to Portugal. Kate was there with Susan Hubbard. The Daily Mail got it wrong.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321551/Madeleine-McCann-disappearance-Kate-McCann-returns-Portuguese-resort-6th-anniversary.html

Watch out DM, you got it wrong, Carter Fruck fast dial quick.

Yes, that definitely was Susan Hubbard pictured with Kate earlier this month in the press but I've yet to be convinced that they were actually there in PDL at that time.

Probably should have been titled:
"YOU need to do what's right for Madeleine, Mrs Healy"

A final two questions for the 'distraught' Susan Healy.

Grandmother to a missing granddaughter.

If you have NOT approached any PJ authority, with the mother of your missing grand child, the world will ask of you, and will be entitled to ask of you,

WHY NOT?

Why do you only want pictures of your grand child in the papers, everyday, but NOT want to demand the PJ investigation into her disappearance, to be officially re-opened?

WHY?

jeanmonroe wrote:Probably should have been titled:
"YOU need to do what's right for Madeleine, Mrs Healy"

A final two questions for the 'distraught' Susan Healy.

Grandmother to a missing granddaughter.

If you have NOT approached any PJ authority, with the mother of your missing grand child, the world will ask of you, and will be entitled to ask of you,

WHY NOT?

Why do you only want pictures of your grand child in the papers, everyday, but NOT want to demand the PJ investigation into her disappearance, to be officially re-opened?

WHY?

Because EVERYONE knows the PJ is useless, corrupt and a bunch of planting false evidence sardine munchers and smokers. And they jeopardised Kate's life by driving too fast when trying to find her daughter!

If Madeleine was abducted then it is beyond belief that her parents allowed the case to be shelved in the first place as that was wholly avoidable. It's also beyond belief that none of the family have demanded the reopening of the case and if Susan Healy is so keen on finding the truth she'd have done something about that by now. As for her comment about wanting Madeleine on the front pages every day, that is BS, if a stranger took Madeleine the unprecedented media circus would have freaked him out and ensured the child's demise long ago. It's always been a mystery to me how these people have had the audacity to beg the public for money, help and to search, when they have contributed nothing themselves - the MSM has not only allowed them to get away with it, it has encouraged ordinary people to hand over hard earned money to a secretive private company that no one is allowed to question. The Tapas 9 and their families and friends have highly paid jobs yet the fund to find Madeleine was used to financially support well-healed family members, even though most of the fund money was donated by people much less well off than Team McCann. Kate McCann supposedly gave up her job to 'search' for Madeleine but in reality she couldn't return to work as a GP because she was no longer in a position to advise, or make a judgement call, on her patients parenting skills - especially since she viewed leaving toddlers alone at night as responsible/reasonable parenting. The McCanns friends are very rich indeed: Michael Linnett, a Director of 'the Fund', is married to Freddie Linnett one of the richest women (worth around £400M) in Britain, and Edward Smethhurst, Brian Kennedy and Lorraine Kelly (to name but a few) are all millionaires, but nevertheless the less than transparent McCanns have cadged off the public for long six years without a word of dissent from the media. It seems it is always the public who pay for everything in hard cash, the rich just lend their name, or attend a social event such as a lunch or gala (the tapas bunch do a few runs, that's their contribution to the famous 'search'). Charities like Missing People and PACT are raking in money year after year though no one knows what they actually do apart from paying themselves large salaries and advertising the faces of missing kids - a good sevice for predators, they can check out the kids details online.

tasprin wrote:If Madeleine was abducted then it is beyond belief that her parents allowed the case to be shelved in the first place as that was wholly avoidable. It's also beyond belief that none of the family have demanded the reopening of the case and if Susan Healy is so keen on finding the truth she'd have done something about that by now. As for her comment about wanting Madeleine on the front pages every day, that is BS, if a stranger took Madeleine the unprecedented media circus would have freaked him out and ensured the child's demise long ago. It's always been a mystery to me how these people have had the audacity to beg the public for money, help and to search, when they have contributed nothing themselves - the MSM has not only allowed them to get away with it, it has encouraged ordinary people to hand over hard earned money to a secretive private company that no one is allowed to question. The Tapas 9 and their families and friends have highly paid jobs yet the fund to find Madeleine was used to financially support well-healed family members, even though most of the fund money was donated by people much less well off than Team McCann. Kate McCann supposedly gave up her job to 'search' for Madeleine but in reality she couldn't return to work as a GP because she was no longer in a position to advise, or make a judgement call, on her patients parenting skills - especially since she viewed leaving toddlers alone at night as responsible/reasonable parenting. The McCanns friends are very rich indeed: Michael Linnett, a Director of 'the Fund', is married to Freddie Linnett one of the richest women (worth around £400M) in Britain, and Edward Smethhurst, Brian Kennedy and Lorraine Kelly (to name but a few) are all millionaires, but nevertheless the less than transparent McCanns have cadged off the public for long six years without a word of dissent from the media. It seems it is always the public who pay for everything in hard cash, the rich just lend their name, or attend a social event such as a lunch or gala (the tapas bunch do a few runs, that's their contribution to the famous 'search'). Charities like Missing People and PACT are raking in money year after year though no one knows what they actually do apart from paying themselves large salaries and advertising the faces of missing kids - a good sevice for predators, they can check out the kids details online.

This is one of the best posts I've seen on this forum.

I concur

tasprin wrote:If Madeleine was abducted then it is beyond belief that her parents allowed the case to be shelved in the first place as that was wholly avoidable. It's also beyond belief that none of the family have demanded the reopening of the case and if Susan Healy is so keen on finding the truth she'd have done something about that by now. As for her comment about wanting Madeleine on the front pages every day, that is BS, if a stranger took Madeleine the unprecedented media circus would have freaked him out and ensured the child's demise long ago. It's always been a mystery to me how these people have had the audacity to beg the public for money, help and to search, when they have contributed nothing themselves - the MSM has not only allowed them to get away with it, it has encouraged ordinary people to hand over hard earned money to a secretive private company that no one is allowed to question. The Tapas 9 and their families and friends have highly paid jobs yet the fund to find Madeleine was used to financially support well-healed family members, even though most of the fund money was donated by people much less well off than Team McCann. Kate McCann supposedly gave up her job to 'search' for Madeleine but in reality she couldn't return to work as a GP because she was no longer in a position to advise, or make a judgement call, on her patients parenting skills - especially since she viewed leaving toddlers alone at night as responsible/reasonable parenting. The McCanns friends are very rich indeed: Michael Linnett, a Director of 'the Fund', is married to Freddie Linnett one of the richest women (worth around £400M) in Britain, and Edward Smethhurst, Brian Kennedy and Lorraine Kelly (to name but a few) are all millionaires, but nevertheless the less than transparent McCanns have cadged off the public for long six years without a word of dissent from the media. It seems it is always the public who pay for everything in hard cash, the rich just lend their name, or attend a social event such as a lunch or gala (the tapas bunch do a few runs, that's their contribution to the famous 'search'). Charities like Missing People and PACT are raking in money year after year though no one knows what they actually do apart from paying themselves large salaries and advertising the faces of missing kids - a good sevice for predators, they can check out the kids details online.

Just read my mind here.
What I find really really sad is that the people who still donate to "the fund " are obviously in oblivion to the forensic facts of the case. And worse, their money is mainly used to ruin people's lives as it happened to GA and Tony Bennett. People who still give the Mccanns money and support will someday (I still hope ) understand what they've done, how they were fooled.
Really the fact that they are doctors really bothered me from day one, they had millionaires giving rewards and helping them, why ask "normal people " for money? And they had private jets to their disposal and at one time Gerry stayed in Dom Pedro hotel which is one of the most expensive ones where Presidents and celebrities usually stay. Why has no one ever asked him if he ever thought for a second that the money could actually be used to search for his missing daughter? Why didn't grandma Healey or any other family member questioned that?!

Ayniia wrote:

tasprin wrote:If Madeleine was abducted then it is beyond belief that her parents allowed the case to be shelved in the first place as that was wholly avoidable. It's also beyond belief that none of the family have demanded the reopening of the case and if Susan Healy is so keen on finding the truth she'd have done something about that by now. As for her comment about wanting Madeleine on the front pages every day, that is BS, if a stranger took Madeleine the unprecedented media circus would have freaked him out and ensured the child's demise long ago. It's always been a mystery to me how these people have had the audacity to beg the public for money, help and to search, when they have contributed nothing themselves - the MSM has not only allowed them to get away with it, it has encouraged ordinary people to hand over hard earned money to a secretive private company that no one is allowed to question. The Tapas 9 and their families and friends have highly paid jobs yet the fund to find Madeleine was used to financially support well-healed family members, even though most of the fund money was donated by people much less well off than Team McCann. Kate McCann supposedly gave up her job to 'search' for Madeleine but in reality she couldn't return to work as a GP because she was no longer in a position to advise, or make a judgement call, on her patients parenting skills - especially since she viewed leaving toddlers alone at night as responsible/reasonable parenting. The McCanns friends are very rich indeed: Michael Linnett, a Director of 'the Fund', is married to Freddie Linnett one of the richest women (worth around £400M) in Britain, and Edward Smethhurst, Brian Kennedy and Lorraine Kelly (to name but a few) are all millionaires, but nevertheless the less than transparent McCanns have cadged off the public for long six years without a word of dissent from the media. It seems it is always the public who pay for everything in hard cash, the rich just lend their name, or attend a social event such as a lunch or gala (the tapas bunch do a few runs, that's their contribution to the famous 'search'). Charities like Missing People and PACT are raking in money year after year though no one knows what they actually do apart from paying themselves large salaries and advertising the faces of missing kids - a good sevice for predators, they can check out the kids details online.

Just read my mind here.
What I find really really sad is that the people who still donate to "the fund " are obviously in oblivion to the forensic facts of the case. And worse, their money is mainly used to ruin people's lives as it happened to GA and Tony Bennett. People who still give the Mccanns money and support will someday (I still hope ) understand what they've done, how they were fooled.
Really the fact that they are doctors really bothered me from day one, they had millionaires giving rewards and helping them, why ask "normal people " for money? And they had private jets to their disposal and at one time Gerry stayed in Dom Pedro hotel which is one of the most expensive ones where Presidents and celebrities usually stay. Why has no one ever asked him if he ever thought for a second that the money could actually be used to search for his missing daughter? Why didn't grandma Healey or any other family member questioned that?!

We have the media to blame for people still donating to the mccanns fund,IF they started to print from the PJ files instead of what the mccanns say, then the fund would be no more.

ShuBob wrote:I concur

Me too!

Ayniia wrote:

tasprin wrote:If Madeleine was abducted then it is beyond belief that her parents allowed the case to be shelved in the first place as that was wholly avoidable. It's also beyond belief that none of the family have demanded the reopening of the case and if Susan Healy is so keen on finding the truth she'd have done something about that by now. As for her comment about wanting Madeleine on the front pages every day, that is BS, if a stranger took Madeleine the unprecedented media circus would have freaked him out and ensured the child's demise long ago. It's always been a mystery to me how these people have had the audacity to beg the public for money, help and to search, when they have contributed nothing themselves - the MSM has not only allowed them to get away with it, it has encouraged ordinary people to hand over hard earned money to a secretive private company that no one is allowed to question. The Tapas 9 and their families and friends have highly paid jobs yet the fund to find Madeleine was used to financially support well-healed family members, even though most of the fund money was donated by people much less well off than Team McCann. Kate McCann supposedly gave up her job to 'search' for Madeleine but in reality she couldn't return to work as a GP because she was no longer in a position to advise, or make a judgement call, on her patients parenting skills - especially since she viewed leaving toddlers alone at night as responsible/reasonable parenting. The McCanns friends are very rich indeed: Michael Linnett, a Director of 'the Fund', is married to Freddie Linnett one of the richest women (worth around £400M) in Britain, and Edward Smethhurst, Brian Kennedy and Lorraine Kelly (to name but a few) are all millionaires, but nevertheless the less than transparent McCanns have cadged off the public for long six years without a word of dissent from the media. It seems it is always the public who pay for everything in hard cash, the rich just lend their name, or attend a social event such as a lunch or gala (the tapas bunch do a few runs, that's their contribution to the famous 'search'). Charities like Missing People and PACT are raking in money year after year though no one knows what they actually do apart from paying themselves large salaries and advertising the faces of missing kids - a good sevice for predators, they can check out the kids details online.

Just read my mind here.
What I find really really sad is that the people who still donate to "the fund " are obviously in oblivion to the forensic facts of the case. And worse, their money is mainly used to ruin people's lives as it happened to GA and Tony Bennett. People who still give the Mccanns money and support will someday (I still hope ) understand what they've done, how they were fooled.
Really the fact that they are doctors really bothered me from day one, they had millionaires giving rewards and helping them, why ask "normal people " for money? And they had private jets to their disposal and at one time Gerry stayed in Dom Pedro hotel which is one of the most expensive ones where Presidents and celebrities usually stay. Why has no one ever asked him if he ever thought for a second that the money could actually be used to search for his missing daughter? Why didn't grandma Healey or any other family member questioned that?!

Coz' they woz' on the gravy train themselves?

Isn't one of the statutory objectives of the Fund Limited: to provide for the family?

Now, isn't that a rather broad description?

Do we know if Antie Fill was paid? Just to name a few.

Portia wrote:

Ayniia wrote:

tasprin wrote:If Madeleine was abducted then it is beyond belief that her parents allowed the case to be shelved in the first place as that was wholly avoidable. It's also beyond belief that none of the family have demanded the reopening of the case and if Susan Healy is so keen on finding the truth she'd have done something about that by now. As for her comment about wanting Madeleine on the front pages every day, that is BS, if a stranger took Madeleine the unprecedented media circus would have freaked him out and ensured the child's demise long ago. It's always been a mystery to me how these people have had the audacity to beg the public for money, help and to search, when they have contributed nothing themselves - the MSM has not only allowed them to get away with it, it has encouraged ordinary people to hand over hard earned money to a secretive private company that no one is allowed to question. The Tapas 9 and their families and friends have highly paid jobs yet the fund to find Madeleine was used to financially support well-healed family members, even though most of the fund money was donated by people much less well off than Team McCann. Kate McCann supposedly gave up her job to 'search' for Madeleine but in reality she couldn't return to work as a GP because she was no longer in a position to advise, or make a judgement call, on her patients parenting skills - especially since she viewed leaving toddlers alone at night as responsible/reasonable parenting. The McCanns friends are very rich indeed: Michael Linnett, a Director of 'the Fund', is married to Freddie Linnett one of the richest women (worth around £400M) in Britain, and Edward Smethhurst, Brian Kennedy and Lorraine Kelly (to name but a few) are all millionaires, but nevertheless the less than transparent McCanns have cadged off the public for long six years without a word of dissent from the media. It seems it is always the public who pay for everything in hard cash, the rich just lend their name, or attend a social event such as a lunch or gala (the tapas bunch do a few runs, that's their contribution to the famous 'search'). Charities like Missing People and PACT are raking in money year after year though no one knows what they actually do apart from paying themselves large salaries and advertising the faces of missing kids - a good sevice for predators, they can check out the kids details online.

Just read my mind here.
What I find really really sad is that the people who still donate to "the fund " are obviously in oblivion to the forensic facts of the case. And worse, their money is mainly used to ruin people's lives as it happened to GA and Tony Bennett. People who still give the Mccanns money and support will someday (I still hope ) understand what they've done, how they were fooled.
Really the fact that they are doctors really bothered me from day one, they had millionaires giving rewards and helping them, why ask "normal people " for money? And they had private jets to their disposal and at one time Gerry stayed in Dom Pedro hotel which is one of the most expensive ones where Presidents and celebrities usually stay. Why has no one ever asked him if he ever thought for a second that the money could actually be used to search for his missing daughter? Why didn't grandma Healey or any other family member questioned that?!

Coz' they woz' on the gravy train themselves?

Isn't one of the statutory objectives of the Fund Limited: to provide for the family?

Now, isn't that a rather broad description?

Do we know if Antie Fill was paid? Just to name a few.

Well said, the fund money IMO has been enjoyed by one and all.

Ok I'm going to forget for a moment about them spending the fund money for them and for their family.
Ruining other people's / families lives with it it's not right! Even if by chance those people were calling them murderers or rapists or something worse IT'S NOT RIGHT to harm others and their families. I don't understand how can the Mccanns extended family allow this.

The money was donated by the public to find Madeleine but within months of it being set up the McCanns were using it to pay their mortgage. Later down the line they used more of it to sue Amaral and tried to justify the expenditure by the ludicrous assertion that Amarals book was hampering “The Search”. But…the fund was set up within days of Madeleine’s disappearance and the lawyers made sure from the outset that the McCanns could legally use the money in anyway they pleased and nobody could do a thing about it (imo the fund was always earmarked for lawyers and PR). There is no necessity for a fund for a missing child especially not for an affluent family like the McCanns. The police are there to investigate for free but the McCanns didn’t cooperate with the police and even ignored advice regarding Madeleine’s eye defect. Why on earth would parents of an abducted child rather put their faith in some fly-by-night detectives who, in all these years, have not managed to unearth a solitary clue. The police may have made some mistakes (perhaps too trusting of the tapas 9) but every rehashed spin story is proven to have been already investigated by the PJ. The latest mad spin surge is probably due to the forthcoming libel trial.


The McCanns attitude seems to be, ‘Why should we, our families or friends have to pay out for PR and defence/extradition/libel lawyers or expenses, when we can so easily scrounge off the public, oh and the public can buy our merchandise and spend their family holidays doing the searching too’. The MSM really should have made the terms of the McCanns private company very clear to the public, and then left it them to decide whether they still wanted to pay the McCanns mortgage, lawyers fees, sue policemen and donate to the well-heeled McCann/Healy extended family expenses. Instead it has given the public the false impression throughout, that the McCanns company is a charity and that hasn’t changed despite a succession of criminals, fraudsters and incompetents getting their hands on publicly donated money. Incidentally, if Kevin Halligen had committed an offence in the UK regarding the fund, he would have had to answer that charge before being extradited to the US but he was never accused by anyone except the UK media. Clarence Mitchell even said the McCanns were satisfied with Halligen’s work ‘Case closed’ but now, funnily enough, five years on and they’re apparently ‘thinking’ of suing him.

@ Ayniia
Peas in a pod ... ?

Châtelaine wrote:@ Ayniia
Peas in a pod ... ?

OT but peas are my fav food
I understand what you mean but...well as for the family backing up their loved ones I can somewhat understand...if hypothetically they have doubts about Kate and Gerry and their involvement in whatever, I can somewhat understand at least for the perspective of protecting the twins. Telling people to donate for their (virtually nonexistent) search for Madeleine,I can understand. Taking money from the fund to pay the house, debts, trips, 5 star hotels and on an on, it's not ok but I think I can understand.
Harming people, I'm sorry I don't understand. NEVER. Even people who harmed me I'm basically incapable of paying back in the same coin. Don't at least Kate and Gerry have a conscience?! No they don't. Feeling happy about ruining GA and Tony Bennett lives? The lives of their wives/daughters/sons/whole families? No way,I'll never ever understand that. It's innocent people were talking here! As innocent as their own twins! It's so not right It feels like a medieval sort of thing. It's mean, It's evil, It's revenge for people having a mouth and talking? I don't understand law, not Portuguese and surely not British but it's wrong when you can (because you have $$$$$$$$$$$) just forbid someone of TALKING! If people are saying "bad" things about you, you go there and SHOW YOUR FACE AND JUST REFUTE what they're saying.
Peas or no peas, I want to believe (like my dear Fox Mulder) that the Mccanns extended family don't fully understand what they did to other whole families.

Edited to add: Kate and Gerry the libel against Mr Bennett was what made me find this forum and research more in a long forgotten subject so see? Things work bothways