Re: ***LIVE*** Discussion and comments thread BBC Panorama tonight 25th April 7.30pm

[Woofer]

All I can see at the moment is that good diplomatic relations between UK and Portugal are in danger of breaking down, hatred between 2 countries being initiated when once they were friends, a great chasm is appearing. SY or our government must be taking one hell of a risk to put the McCanns very dubious story in precedence over good relations with Portugal.

Extremely odd.

[rainbow-fairy]

I go with No.1 rainbow-fairy. The PJ started their own review before SY, they suddenly were brought in after the letter in the Sun from K & G, backed by NI, someone obviously had a whiff of what was happening. I think all this is to pre-empt what the PJ might come up with in the near future.

Agreed, candyfloss. I smell fear, I think the PJ are scenting blood (just like dear Keela).
If we think about this, remember all the excitement last month when it looked like PT may re-open?
Now, IIRC, it was emphatically stated that SY would NOT be commenting publicly until the Review was complete, etc etc etc. Now, within just a MONTH of the re-opening-that-wasnt from Portugal's end, we have;

McPanorama
Redwood on sofa's!

Probably the nastiest, most libellous, slanderous xenophobic articles about the PJ 'botched' investigation

A pathetic convoluted 'reason' why Yellow-belly Redwood 'believes Maddie to be possibly alive'

A new photo...


Yes, I believe I smell good old fashioned fear.

ETA: just a thought: could all this 'McCanns innocent' business be 1)to avoid libel action 2)so as not to cause unfair trial?
It seems Kate Garraway and some others are making discontented comments too.
For what its worth, Bilton's face and body language - he aint fooled but he has a job to do and following orders...

[rainbow-fairy]

All I can see at the moment is that good diplomatic relations between UK and Portugal are in danger of breaking down, hatred between 2 countries being initiated when once they were friends, a great chasm is appearing. SY or our government must be taking one hell of a risk to put the McCanns very dubious story in precedence over good relations with Portugal.

Extremely odd.

Woofer, I agree.
Uk are not risking relations FOR the McCanns.
This has always been my opinion, but the more I read, the more garbage articles appearing I am more sure than ever;
This goes right to the top. Government, MP's, ex PM's - maybe even 'higher' than that.
I firmly, totally 100% believe that Katerina Gaspar's observations are the reason at the black cancerous heart at the middle of all this.
Very nasty, corrupt, perverted movers and shakers in this country.
If you google the words 'Gordon Brown, p*******le', Dunblane' - you'll see what I mean.
I've seen nothing yet to sway me another way. I believe a 'prominent' was in PdL at the time - the fabled 'T10', possibly - hot-footed it away. Likely as not, they and their filthy cronies are the ones being protected, imho.

Poor, poor Madeleine.

[friedtomatoes]

All I can see at the moment is that good diplomatic relations between UK and Portugal are in danger of breaking down, hatred between 2 countries being initiated when once they were friends, a great chasm is appearing. SY or our government must be taking one hell of a risk to put the McCanns very dubious story in precedence over good relations with Portugal.

Extremely odd.

Can you imagine how many people would have egg on their faces if it was ever proved the parents were involved? I think the list is very long. But I personally don't believe there is any danger of a diplomatic war over this, the papers do exagerrate things so much, so much of the time.

[Guest]

Weren't they assigned a Police Liason Officer right at the start when Madeleine disappeared, but dispensed with them?

Sharon Matthews was arrested by her Family Liaison Officer !

I have now found this from Goncalo's book re the Liaison Officer, don't know if it is in KM's book,

On May 14th, Kate Healy is indignant about the attitude of the liaison officer, who asks her where her daughter is. Neither she nor her husband accepts anyone doubting their word. The officer will be sent packing - and his colleague too - a week after his arrival. That attitude is, to say the least, shocking on the part of parents confronted by such a situation, that, what is more, is in a foreign country. Those two police officers, who distinguished themselves through long experience in the management of situations of kidnap and abduction, were, all the same, entirely at their disposal; they provided daily logistical and legal support, and afforded them all the help they could have needed.

Curiously, the English do not consider it expedient to disclose the incident and the PJ are not informed. Myself, I only learn of it indirectly. Finally, a solution is found quickly: the two men are replaced by a Portuguese man who speaks fluent English

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[Woofer]

All I can see at the moment is that good diplomatic relations between UK and Portugal are in danger of breaking down, hatred between 2 countries being initiated when once they were friends, a great chasm is appearing. SY or our government must be taking one hell of a risk to put the McCanns very dubious story in precedence over good relations with Portugal.

Extremely odd.

Woofer, I agree.
Uk are not risking relations FOR the McCanns.
This has always been my opinion, but the more I read, the more garbage articles appearing I am more sure than ever;
This goes right to the top. Government, MP's, ex PM's - maybe even 'higher' than that.
I firmly, totally 100% believe that Katerina Gaspar's observations are the reason at the black cancerous heart at the middle of all this.
Very nasty, corrupt, perverted movers and shakers in this country.
If you google the words 'Gordon Brown, p*******le', Dunblane' - you'll see what I mean.
I've seen nothing yet to sway me another way. I believe a 'prominent' was in PdL at the time - the fabled 'T10', possibly - hot-footed it away. Likely as not, they and their filthy cronies are the ones being protected, imho.

Poor, poor Madeleine.

Yes, it`s what I`ve thought in recent years (and have seen all the stuff about ex PMs, Dunblane, Operation Ore, Holly Grieg etc.. including one nicknamed M*****a who KM boasts about being a friend who supposedly phoned them soon after the event, one can just imagine why. Not sure about a `T10` as the whole OC would probably know about him and would have to be silenced. Perhaps its worth looking who left government around the time Maddie went missing.

[Woofer]

Weren't they assigned a Police Liason Officer right at the start when Madeleine disappeared, but dispensed with them?

Sharon Matthews was arrested by her Family Liaison Officer !

I have now found this from Goncalo's book re the Liaison Officer, don't know if it is in KM's book,

On May 14th, Kate Healy is indignant about the attitude of the liaison officer, who asks her where her daughter is. Neither she nor her husband accepts anyone doubting their word. The officer will be sent packing - and his colleague too - a week after his arrival. That attitude is, to say the least, shocking on the part of parents confronted by such a situation, that, what is more, is in a foreign country. Those two police officers, who distinguished themselves through long experience in the management of situations of kidnap and abduction, were, all the same, entirely at their disposal; they provided daily logistical and legal support, and afforded them all the help they could have needed.

Curiously, the English do not consider it expedient to disclose the incident and the PJ are not informed. Myself, I only learn of it indirectly. Finally, a solution is found quickly: the two men are replaced by a Portuguese man who speaks fluent English

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Would an experienced FLO really ask KM where her daughter is? This is surely fabricated by KM as the FLOs were asking questions she didn`t like.

[friedtomatoes]

There was a resignation very shortly after, the name escapes me. I will google it and edit this post.

I personally cannot join any of the dots in this theory though.

[Pershing36]

All I can see at the moment is that good diplomatic relations between UK and Portugal are in danger of breaking down, hatred between 2 countries being initiated when once they were friends, a great chasm is appearing. SY or our government must be taking one hell of a risk to put the McCanns very dubious story in precedence over good relations with Portugal.

Extremely odd.

Can you imagine how many people would have egg on their faces if it was ever proved the parents were involved? I think the list is very long. But I personally don't believe there is any danger of a diplomatic war over this, the papers do exagerrate things so much, so much of the time.

Exactly, this is why I firmly believe the powers that be in charge of the country will make sure the SY investigation will never lead in this direction.

[Woofer]

All I can see at the moment is that good diplomatic relations between UK and Portugal are in danger of breaking down, hatred between 2 countries being initiated when once they were friends, a great chasm is appearing. SY or our government must be taking one hell of a risk to put the McCanns very dubious story in precedence over good relations with Portugal.

Extremely odd.

Can you imagine how many people would have egg on their faces if it was ever proved the parents were involved? I think the list is very long. But I personally don't believe there is any danger of a diplomatic war over this, the papers do exagerrate things so much, so much of the time.

Yes one could say that, but in defence all they have to say is that they felt sorry for the couple and believed them. And we all know the power of empathy.

[Woofer]

There was a resignation very shortly after, the name escapes me. I will google it and edit this post.

I personally cannot join any of the dots in this theory though.

Yes, a very important one was announced on the 10th May 2007 !!!!

[friedtomatoes]

All I can see at the moment is that good diplomatic relations between UK and Portugal are in danger of breaking down, hatred between 2 countries being initiated when once they were friends, a great chasm is appearing. SY or our government must be taking one hell of a risk to put the McCanns very dubious story in precedence over good relations with Portugal.

Extremely odd.

Can you imagine how many people would have egg on their faces if it was ever proved the parents were involved? I think the list is very long. But I personally don't believe there is any danger of a diplomatic war over this, the papers do exagerrate things so much, so much of the time.

Exactly, this is why I firmly believe the powers that be in charge of the country will make sure the SY investigation will never lead in this direction.

They would cover up the death of a child with the parents implicated for this? Why? The slating of the Portuguese began very early on by the media, almost immediately and IIRC the Mccanns initiated it. There are certain elements in this case which suggest there was a strategy and planning from the off. It certainly doesn't seem to be a normal missing child case by any stretch.

Who do Scotland Yard report to? IIRC it is not the government. I can't remember where I read this.

[friedtomatoes]

There was a resignation very shortly after, the name escapes me. I will google it and edit this post.

I personally cannot join any of the dots in this theory though.

Yes, a very important one was announced on the 10th May 2007 !!!!

That was Tony Blair, but I am thinking of someone else, an older man, I just can't remember and my google search proved useless.

[Pershing36]

One thing is for sure from what I am reading elsewhere is that a lot of people now think the Police are sounding increasingly incompetent, as in beginning to be ridiculous.

Even those who firmly believe the abduction, many think it is very unlikely that she could still be alive. Especially given the world wide publicity, (of course we all want her alive, well and returned home unharmed) surely that in itself would have panicked an abductor. Again, in cases of abduction with children how many are returned home alive? Especially given the time scale.

Although I don't think this review is going to solve this case (abduction or not), I think it is going to change the public's view of this case and the way the UK have dealt with it.

[friedtomatoes]

One thing is for sure from what I am reading elsewhere is that a lot of people now think the Police are sounding increasingly incompetent, as in beginning to be ridiculous.

Even those who firmly believe the abduction, many think it is very unlikely that she could still be alive. Especially given the world wide publicity, (of course we all want her alive, well and returned home unharmed) surely that in itself would have panicked an abductor. Again, in cases of abduction with children how many are returned home alive? Especially given the time scale.

Although I don't think this review is going to solve this case (abduction or not), I think it is going to change the public's view of this case and the way the UK have dealt with it.

Andy Redwood has said his aim is to solve it. He has solved cold cases before from what I have read. I refuse to believe that 30 odd very experienced SY officers are all going to agree to some whitewash of the truth. I don't think Cameron and May would agree with that either. Then again, what do I know.

[Pershing36]

Andy Redwood has said his aim is to solve it. He has solved cold cases before from what I have read. I refuse to believe that 30 odd very experienced SY officers are all going to agree to some whitewash of the truth. I don't think Cameron and May would agree with that either. Then again, what do I know.

See this is what I want to believe. But when you remember cases like Dr David Kelly and that new one where the Mi6 agent is suppose to have locked himself in a sports bag it doesn't give you much faith.

Saying that it could be that Redwood is only making this statement as the evidence they have read through so far doesn't lead them to anything other than an abduction and no sign of her being dead. When you think of it that makes sense too, there is no body and reviewing only 25% of the material surely wouldn't be able to tell you much, let alone start new theories.

[friedtomatoes]

Andy Redwood has said his aim is to solve it. He has solved cold cases before from what I have read. I refuse to believe that 30 odd very experienced SY officers are all going to agree to some whitewash of the truth. I don't think Cameron and May would agree with that either. Then again, what do I know.

See this is what I want to believe. But when you remember cases like Dr David Kelly and that new one where the Mi6 agent is suppose to have locked himself in a sports bag it doesn't give you much faith.

Saying that it could be that Redwood is only making this statement as the evidence they have read through so far doesn't lead them to anything other than an abduction and no sign of her being dead. When you think of it that makes sense too, there is no body and reviewing only 25% of the material surely wouldn't be able to tell you much, let alone start new theories.

David Kelly and the MI6 agent might have had to be silenced, for political reasons, how does the disappearance of a three yr old figure into stuff like that?

[russiandoll]

I have just finished reading this thread. It is evident that there are several extremely knowledgeable individuals making their points of view, but one clearly notices that the signal to noise ratio is out of kilter. Clearly knowledgeable individuals are putting themselves on the line vis a vis their own experiences and research, yet I find the valuable and believable messages drowned out by people that blatantly state that they are "plebs" and do not understand anything. I would put to Mr Bennet that he has a forum that has clearly been infiltrated by malefactors. As an astute observer said yesterday, be careful of these constantly questioning "ingenues" as they are simply here to act as agent provacateurs and consequently provide ammunition for later attack. There are also one or two contributors that are clearly ex or current police, commenting favourably on the Scotland Yard enquiry. From my experience, once a spy, always a spy. With a few honorable exceptions. I am perturbed by candyfloss, who has apparently only now had an epiphany ref: Scotland Yard. Monkey Mind clearly knows what he is talking about, but all these dolls after dolls after dolls keep on dragging the debate back to zero. And tomatoes. The whole world is watching this thread, and people like Juliet, NoFuleMe, are being ignored and drowned out by either stupidity, or malice.

You are entitled to your opinions, however you are insulting to candyfloss and I gather from the dolls and dolls you refer to me and the tomatoes is a ref to friedtomatoes. I am neither stupid nor malicious, I believe in debate and as am trained to begin any research by giving the benefit of the doubt. And to be skeptical. How do you know some of us are not taking a role of devil's advocate in this discussion in order to further debate?

Just because a few of us refrain at this early stage from TOTAL cynicism does not mean we are naive or stupid, there would be almost zero debate on this thread if we all thought along the same lines, just numerous posts denigrating our police force. Fancy one so intelligent as you to disallow a difference of opinion. It is a discussion forum for reasoned debate.
Whoever you are, you appear to think you have a total handle on events and are in possession of a superior intellect. You come across as arrogant in the extreme and I think you have added nothing to this thread. Some here have researched this case for years and recent events have been discouraging, perhaps it is not such a bad thing that some here are trying to retain a positive outlook.
btw I am neither stupid nor naive. I am not ex police either, but a highly- trained analyst and linguist.
over and out ! [You would have been better to insult me with the Russian part of my user name btw, as I am more Russian than doll-like.]
correction of your post. "agent "is a singular and as you were ref to more than one person on the forum, it needs an "s" at the end.
provacateurs is mis-spelt, although you got the plural ending for the adjective here...spelling is provocateurs. so you should have written AGENTS PROVOCATEURS. Nothing more annoying than people trying to show how clever they are by using foreign phrases.....incorrectly. No reply needed as I will not be communicating with you further.
B - decent effort but could do better
Do svidaniya!

[Pershing36]

David Kelly and the MI6 agent might have had to be silenced, for political reasons, how does the disappearance of a three yr old figure into stuff like that?

It became political very quickly.


Somebody could end up with egg on their face. If TM are truthful then it will be the PJ, if it is proved otherwise then SY.

Isn't the safest just to find nothing?

[friedtomatoes]

Colobomian, what did I do? I didn't understand your ref to me.
! Please either pm me or explain. My position is very clear, I do not believe the Mccanns story, end of. I do believe the whole sorry saga is a web of lies. Further than that, I do not know or have a strong view of what actually happened.

eta if your ref to calling oneself a pleb to hide something wasdirected at me then you are on a losing track, it is true i do not understand or care to the evil machinations of govt, police corruption and all sorts of nasty business, the media included, i have no agenda but my own informed and at times plebish opinions, take your argument up with people in power

[Guest]

I have just finished reading this thread. It is evident that there are several extremely knowledgeable individuals making their points of view, but one clearly notices that the signal to noise ratio is out of kilter. Clearly knowledgeable individuals are putting themselves on the line vis a vis their own experiences and research, yet I find the valuable and believable messages drowned out by people that blatantly state that they are "plebs" and do not understand anything. I would put to Mr Bennet that he has a forum that has clearly been infiltrated by malefactors. As an astute observer said yesterday, be careful of these constantly questioning "ingenues" as they are simply here to act as agent provacateurs and consequently provide ammunition for later attack. There are also one or two contributors that are clearly ex or current police, commenting favourably on the Scotland Yard enquiry. From my experience, once a spy, always a spy. With a few honorable exceptions. I am perturbed by candyfloss, who has apparently only now had an epiphany ref: Scotland Yard. Monkey Mind clearly knows what he is talking about, but all these dolls after dolls after dolls keep on dragging the debate back to zero. And tomatoes. The whole world is watching this thread, and people like Juliet, NoFuleMe, are being ignored and drowned out by either stupidity, or malice.

You are entitled to your opinions, however you are insulting to candyfloss and I gather from the dolls within dolls you refer to me and the tomatoes is a ref to friedtomatoes. I am neither stupid nor malicious, I beleive in debate and as am trained to begin any research by giving the benefit of the doubt. And to be skeptical.

Just because a few of us refrain at this early stage from TOTAL cynicism does not mean we are naive or stupid, there would be almost zero debate on this thread if there we all thought along the same lines, just numerous posts denigrating our police force. Fancy one so intelligent as you to not allow a difference of opinion. It is a discussion forum for reasoned debate.
Whoever you are, you appear to think you ahve a total handle on what is going on, are in possession of superior intellect. You come across as arrogant in the extreme and I think you have added nothing to this thread. Some herE have researched this case for years and recent events have been discouraging, perhaps it is not such a bad thing that some here are trying to retain a positive outlook.
btw I am neither stupid nor naive. I am not ex police either, but a highly- trained analyst and linguist.
over and out ! [You would have been better to insult me with the Russian part of my user name btw, as I am more Russian than doll-like.]
Do svidaniya!

Best to ignore russiandoll, I did, they are not worth answering. Nothing but troublemakers. Anyway admin has now banned them.

[friedtomatoes]

David Kelly and the MI6 agent might have had to be silenced, for political reasons, how does the disappearance of a three yr old figure into stuff like that?

It became political very quickly.


Somebody could end up with egg on their face. If TM are truthful then it will be the PJ, if it is proved otherwise then SY.

Isn't the safest just to find nothing?

Well, the question is why it became political very quickly. IIRC the then ambassador to Portugal, forget his name, went on tv and stated there was no evidence of an abduction. It was an older guy.

[Spaniel]

I have just finished reading this thread. It is evident that there are several extremely knowledgeable individuals making their points of view, but one clearly notices that the signal to noise ratio is out of kilter. Clearly knowledgeable individuals are putting themselves on the line vis a vis their own experiences and research, yet I find the valuable and believable messages drowned out by people that blatantly state that they are "plebs" and do not understand anything. I would put to Mr Bennet that he has a forum that has clearly been infiltrated by malefactors. As an astute observer said yesterday, be careful of these constantly questioning "ingenues" as they are simply here to act as agent provacateurs and consequently provide ammunition for later attack. There are also one or two contributors that are clearly ex or current police, commenting favourably on the Scotland Yard enquiry. From my experience, once a spy, always a spy. With a few honorable exceptions. I am perturbed by candyfloss, who has apparently only now had an epiphany ref: Scotland Yard. Monkey Mind clearly knows what he is talking about, but all these dolls after dolls after dolls keep on dragging the debate back to zero. And tomatoes. The whole world is watching this thread, and people like Juliet, NoFuleMe, are being ignored and drowned out by either stupidity, or malice.

You are entitled to your opinions, however you are insulting to candyfloss and I gather from the dolls within dolls you refer to me and the tomatoes is a ref to friedtomatoes. I am neither stupid nor malicious, I beleive in debate and as am trained to begin any research by giving the benefit of the doubt. And to be skeptical.

Just because a few of us refrain at this early stage from TOTAL cynicism does not mean we are naive or stupid, there would be almost zero debate on this thread if there we all thought along the same lines, just numerous posts denigrating our police force. Fancy one so intelligent as you to not allow a difference of opinion. It is a discussion forum for reasoned debate.
Whoever you are, you appear to think you ahve a total handle on what is going on, are in possession of superior intellect. You come across as arrogant in the extreme and I think you have added nothing to this thread. Some herE have researched this case for years and recent events have been discouraging, perhaps it is not such a bad thing that some here are trying to retain a positive outlook.
btw I am neither stupid nor naive. I am not ex police either, but a highly- trained analyst and linguist.
over and out ! [You would have been better to insult me with the Russian part of my user name btw, as I am more Russian than doll-like.]
Do svidaniya!

Best to ignore russiandoll, I did, they are not worth answering. Nothing but troublemakers. Anyway admin has now banned them.

They seem to stumble in here when the clubs turn out thinking it's the David Icke forum. All New World Order and little green men. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

[russiandoll]

Best to ignore russiandoll, I did, they are not worth answering. Nothing but troublemakers. Anyway admin has now banned them.

of course, why i edited to say not to reply.....but I was not letting an insult to forum members go without a response...

[monkey mind]

This morning by e-mail I have received this brief analysis from someone who obviously subscribes to the 'PeterMac' line on Redwood:

QUOTE

I saw your transcript of the Redwood interview on GMTV - I also saw that interview and it reinforced my opinion that Redwood does not believe what he is saying. Each time he was asked why he thought Madeleine was alive and what evidence he had, he evaded giving a direct answer!

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Ah, well that's okay then, we can all sleep tight. Chuckle.

Perhaps Tony, that was a little disingenuous, and for that I apologise, but let's face it no more so than that to which it responds. Any sane person with half a cup of common sense can see the lack of conviction in what he is having to say or take part in, and why would it be otherwise, the only reasonable conclusion is somwhere in the PJ ball park, not in entirely the opposite direction. But that obvious lack of conviction in itself doesn't mean that all is well from a justice point of view in a case that has involved 3 prime ministers and seemingly massive media manipulation.


Let me ask you one question Tony, you being a lawyer. Do you agree with my statement yesterday that should at some time in the future theree arise sufficient evidence to bring a case against the McCanns that the fact that the SIO, DCI Redwood, five years after the disappearance went on national tv, radio and newsprint and said that he believed it a stranger crime and that she may well be alive. Do you think that would assist a prosecution that any counsel worth their salt would not regard this as mana from heaven, a rotten tomato to hurl time and again at the sad and confused jury members?

If you believe it would not be detrimental, then I give up.

If however you believe it would be detrimental but he did it anyway as some sort of ruse because he really is on the case and interested in justice, then I also give up.


I'll be completely honest, I have no doubt the whisperings coming from the Portugal camp, that there really are not any valid leads that throw new light on the case, that the *cooperation* was nothing more than a means to reopen the investigation but in a direction that would exonerate the McCanns, just as our national press are singing in unison. I have no doubt that is the right and fair assessment. It shames me to say it, but I have far more faith in the PJ than SY. It really does shame me to say that.

[Guest]

It was John Reid, who announced his intention to resign as Home Secretary on 6 May 2007, the resignation to take effect when Gordon Brown succeeded Tony Blair.

I may be a fool, but I am going to remain optimistic until the end of this review. I understand why many are genuinely cynical about SY but there is nothing the Mccanns would like better than to see people giving up.

[friedtomatoes]

It was John Reid, who announced his intention to resign as Home Secretary on 6 May 2007, the resignation to take effect when Gordon Brown succeeded Tony Blair.

I may be a fool, but I am going to remain optimistic until the end of this review. I understand why many are genuinely cynical about SY but there is nothing the Mccanns would like better than to see people giving up.

Thanks! It was him. Nice bloke too! I do not subscribe to any theory he was in pdl and abusing maddie if that was the insinuation or that he covered anything up.. I also tend to agree with you that sy will not be screwed over.

[friedtomatoes]

monkeymind i hardly think some throw away comments on daybreak at only a quarter of the investigation in and with no basis in fact but only opinion will have any grave substance in any trial in the future, there has been a huge plethora of police and other commentators on sofas for 5 years spouting rubbish and opinions, none of it matters, especially if any trial happens in portugal, its three judges, how can this ever become a trial in the uk? could it?

[tigger]

monkeymind i hardly think some throw away comments on daybreak at only a quarter of the investigation in and with no basis in fact but only opinion will have any grave substance in any trial in the future, there has been a huge plethora of police and other commentators on sofas for 5 years spouting rubbish and opinions, none of it matters, especially if any trial happens in portugal, its three judges, how can this ever become a trial in the uk? could it?

I think, theoretically, it could be a trial in the UK. At the very least for child neglect.

[nomendelta]

I've said it before but I think it bears repitition as to why I think a whitewash is on the way.

It's quite simple - Redwood didn't have to say ANYTHING. At the most a general "We cannot comment whilst a review is ongoing" would have been more than enough of a statement to make. The fact that he HAS spoken out and with SO MUCH that helps Team McCann leads me to suspect he, and by extension the SY review, is siding with TM. Given it's the 5th anniversary of Maddie's disappearance and given her birthday and the paperback of Kate's bewk are forthcoming there was always going to be a flurry of publicity. SY chipping in I see as being in no way indicative of gameplaying, strategy, being clever and playing cat and mouse simply because they didn't need to talk.