TAPAS 7 to be interviewed by SY Review Team - Sunday Express. Is something happening at last?

I don't think this news items does TM any favours. They want the review to concentrate on leads, not the night of the 3rd, nor even the holiday.



Many thanks Petermac for putting up the comments, I can't seem to get to it through the link.

Hi all,
Im new on this forum. Even though i have followed the Madeleine case from the start, i have found more informations and good/strong analyses of the case on this forum.
There is one thread which i have found its very interesting and i took my time to read all of its comments :"Where would a body be hidden?"

Regarding this interviews of the T7, which may take place soon, for now i'm seeing things on differents angle and still confused what is purpose and what would be the outcoume of those interviews

On one side, i'm wondering if its not just somethings SY want to do just to justify that they have conducted some works whatever the outcome of investigations to justify their time and investigative works on the case.

On the other side, if this is a real investigation interviews of the T7, what we can expect from the T7, is just changing their strategies in misleading or avoiding being questioned. Their strategy could be in answering in this way: "...eurrr...you know...eee...its like....euu...you know... it has been longtime and many years now... euuuu... i can't recall this and that....euuu...i can't confirm this and that..."
I think we have heard some kind of those answers during this MPs phone hacking interviews, which in some cases even sound like a joke to that phone hacking inquiry committee. I think it will be no surprise that if more than 80% of the questions adressed to them could be answered in that way, given the way Kate has refuse to answer even a single questions in 48questions adressed to her by the portuguese police, knowing very well that was not helping to look for her daughter.

An other outcome of interviews, possibility of one of them to crack down and tell it like it is. This could be triggered by, being interviewed by the british police it will make them more uncomfortable(not only because they are more experienced but also same national and the build up of their lies which is becoming more and more a heavy load to some of them) then being interviewed by the portuguese police, which can make them to crack and confess.

My best wishes and encouragement to Tony B, for this 8 February Directional hearing.

Question them all in Portugal with both the PJ and SY in attendance. That would raise their fear factor.

I am going to put these further comments up, before they are whooshed by you know who. Please download to a safe place.

[quote]i apologies if i offend any one,But what persons in there right mind go to dinner with friends, and leave infants home alone.
- Rowland Murphy, Ashford Kent, 5/2/2012 17:59
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'Abduction' - 'snatched'? Do you know something we don't, DM? If not then perhaps we should just stick to what we know up to now. 'Missing' - 'disappeared.' That sort of thing?
- Debbie. , Germany. , 5/2/2012 17:57
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better late than never! they should have all been interviewd years ago-what a complete and utter farce! - emunn, beds, 05/2/2012 14:29 They were all interviewed years ago, this is just part of the pointless doing it all again operation that Cameron's decided is a better use for money than putting police on the street.
- dave, essex, 5/2/2012 17:53
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I still think the parents know more than they are saying! About time these seven were interviewed. I just feel for poor Maddie and her brother and sister. I do ask one question if Maddie had been born into a poorer family would the parents still have the remaining children. I would never ever leave 3 children under the age of 5 on their own! Mine are kept close!
- Fred, London, 5/2/2012 17:53
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I personally feel that persons within this group, including the two not pictured, are being more than economical with the truth. If none of them has anything to hide, they should take a lie dectector test. Some one of them knows more than they are letting on.
- Tuppence Worth, Royal Mint, 5/2/2012 17:52
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The dreadful disappearance of this child should be investigated as to WHO called the Party ? WHO decided the child had been allegedly abducted ? WHEN was the child last seen running around ? as a thousand questions remain that could be replicated by illusion,and misdirection.The WHO,WHAT,WHERE,WHEN,WHY and HOW of LOGIC (Logos) have not been explained to satisfaction.I so do hope the child is found safe and sound.
- George, Netherlands, 5/2/2012 17:48
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Wonder if we'll find out why Jane Tanner said she saw a man on a path when Gerry (and an independent witness) was nearby and saw no-one? As well as other information and statements that never quite sounded right.
- Kaz, The West, 5/2/2012 17:38
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Thanks PeterMac for highlighting those comments.

The Daily Mail is what one would class as a 'middle england' newspaper? Interesting to see despite desperate moderation & only 27 comments allowed through - the majority were negative towards the McCann's. I've always said they greatly underestimate us 'ordinary' folk. Just imagine how that comments page would read if not for the censorship.

Please bare in mind the maccanns want the 'neglect' accusations...this is covering the more sinister truth

Though I agree that the timing is a wee bit suspect bearing in mind Pat's visit to PdL and the Hearing tomorrow, this just doesn't seem like McCann spin at all to me.
I was actually expecting yet another 'miraculous' sighting to happen. But this? Hmmm. Really not sure!
IMO, this will be the LAST thing the McCanns want - inward scrutiny. They want all to focus on the 'abductor', raggle taggle gypsies who may have carried Maddie off etc. Not a re-questioning of the friends or the events that happened that week. I've thought for a while that the McCanns may find themselves expendable - could this be the start? I don't know but I have EVERYTHING crossed that it may be so...

Welcome, UDA!
I think the story of interviews for the tapas 7 is mainly spin from Clarence Mitchell, but hey what a good idea. Scotland Yard would have to interview the McCann pair too - something they have never done. And all of the interviews would be under caution, unlike the farcical Leics Constabulary interviews.

saw this on martin brunts board.. dont know how true it is.

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Filmed reconstruction with key witnesses to take place at the end of April

tiny wrote:saw this on martin brunts board.. dont know how true it is.

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Filmed reconstruction with key witnesses to take place at the end of April

Who is the key witness...jane tanner!!!

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kikoraton wrote:Welcome, UDA!
I think the story of interviews for the tapas 7 is mainly spin from Clarence Mitchell, but hey what a good idea. Scotland Yard would have to interview the McCann pair too - something they have never done. And all of the interviews would be under caution, unlike the farcical Leics Constabulary interviews.

I beg to differ. I cant see CM spinning something that isnt in mccanns favour, that would be like treason. Of course I may be wrong.

At most it is just the newspapers spinning to sell newspapers. The mccanns and their spoke person haven't commented on it or denied it may mean there is a semblance of possibility of truth in it, all depends on reliability of the newspapers source. Presuming this is in the pipeline then I would imagine, as you said, that the interviews would be done under caution. This in itself, hopefully, would be enough to make the tapas 7 shakes in their boots. If the tapas are to be interviewed then the mccanns will not be spared but they may be the last on the queue. If reconstruction speculation over twitter is true then something is happening at last....(fingers crossed).

What stood out to me in the report was the police side was all unnamed 'sources which could be anything, but on the mccanns side it clarrie the clown and a quote from him

If the mccanns knew already about the re-interviews which they would have done for the quote, then there is now no reason for the police sources to be unnamed, and being in this position the police sources would be official. I think the mccanns are worried and trying to extract information in a crafty manner

jd wrote:What stood out to me in the report was the police side was all unnamed 'sources which could be anything, but on the mccanns side it clarrie the clown and a quote from him

If the mccanns knew already about the re-interviews which they would have done for the quote, then there is now no reason for the police sources to be unnamed, and being in this position the police sources would be official. I think the mccanns are worried and trying to extract information in a crafty manner

jd I agree. Maybe Kate was able to get a good nights rest two or three days after Madeleine was 'abducted' but I've a feeling sleep might be a wee bit harder to come by at the moment...

Hopefully in court right now she is getting the bad news she so richly deserves!

Pat Brown's visit to Portugal, and the possibility of her finding out something detrimental to the McCanns story, would no doubt be most worrying for TM. It is not for no reason that they've spent extraordinary amounts of money and time attempting to silence Goncalo Amaral; and now (oh deary me) Tony, Pat and Goncalo are communicating and linking up. This is the worst possible scenario for TM who must be fully aware that the lovely Pat Brown is outside their threatening and bullying control.

Assuming the parameters of the Review are dodgy, then the 'Yard to call in Tapas 7' headline may have been arranged in an attempt to make the investigation appear more legit and thorough in light of recent events.... and I wouldn't put it past certain people to pull a stunt like that. Of course as has been mentioned above, this could be an absolutely baseless story, stating a likely occurrence. What I really hope is that the Met's Review is legit, and that the detectives have done much digging around, and come full circle right back to the most likely culprits, and as a result are hauling them ALL in for some very awkward, in-depth questioning.

Do the McCanns need to go to court today or can they take action against Tony 'in absentia'?

Again, I must be the only one who is optimistic.

If this is mccanns' spin as some people seemed to believe, just to make the Yard's review look legit, unless the Yard are in cohort with them, how would they appear to the Yard? The last thing they would want is to bring attention to their disgraceful past behavior - if they spin such a tale during ongoing review without basis they would have confirmed to the Yard all their past stories during active ongoing PJ investigations were just spins.
If the Yard are in it to whitewash there is no need for the mccanns to spin anything. Rather it is for the Yard to spin it, imo.

If this headlines is merely spin, then it must the Express and Mail' s doing so as to sensationalize headlines.
Either the newspapers have a source in the Yard (which I doubt, I dont believe the Yard will leak anything like that especially now in the thick of the hack inquiry) or the newspapers must have concluded that themselves based on the general comments of the Yard that they would be ready to interview people once they laid the groundwork. This may simply be the newspapers shooting from the hip and nothing else. Or it may be they have their source but due to professional and ethical reasons cant name their source.

The Express and Mail would lose credibility if their headlines prove later to be misinformation. They have always been sycophantic hence it's always better to take their articles with a large bucket of salt, but one never knows, only time will tell.

I agree that this was solely the work of the Express (with the Mail pinching the story from them).

It could have been published at any time in the past (or future) few weeks - the Express knows that sooner of later the Tapas 7 will be interviewed, and just made something of it. The headline, and the fact of the story at all, was either to boost sales, or to have a little nudge at the McCanns, or a bit of both.

Clarence, on the back foot, just burbled about the Tapas 7 always being ready to oblige interviewers.

Richard Desmond, as he told the Leveson Inquiry, knows most people don't swallow the McCann version of events.

juliet wrote:I agree that this was solely the work of the Express (with the Mail pinching the story from them).

It could have been published at any time in the past (or future) few weeks - the Express knows that sooner of later the Tapas 7 will be interviewed, and just made something of it. The headline, and the fact of the story at all, was either to boost sales, or to have a little nudge at the McCanns, or a bit of both.

Clarence, on the back foot, just burbled about the Tapas 7 always being ready to oblige interviewers.

Richard Desmond, as he told the Leveson Inquiry, knows most people don't swallow the McCann version of events.

Did he? Great! I'm not following much of the Leveson farce, because that's what it is. Where did Leveson get his instructions? Because it looks as if his mind was made up before the hearings.

What Richard Desmond said to the Leveson Inquiry was a very insouciant: "I apologise again to the McCanns etc etc etc, but there are views about the McCanns and what happened."

This was so refreshing after hearing Leveson grovel to the McCanns as if they were visiting Royalty. "May I thank you, your wonderfulnesses, for deigning to attend my humble hearing..." or words to that effect.

Desmond was clearly not giving a damn about the McCanns, and it seems likely that he put in Sunday's piece, with its provocative headline (initially at least) just to stir things up a bit.

aiyoyo wrote:Again, I must be the only one who is optimistic.

If this is mccanns' spin as some people seemed to believe, just to make the Yard's review look legit, unless the Yard are in cohort with them, how would they appear to the Yard? The last thing they would want is to bring attention to their disgraceful past behavior - if they spin such a tale during ongoing review without basis they would have confirmed to the Yard all their past stories during active ongoing PJ investigations were just spins.
If the Yard are in it to whitewash there is no need for the mccanns to spin anything. Rather it is for the Yard to spin it, imo.

If this headlines is merely spin, then it must the Express and Mail' s doing so as to sensationalize headlines.
Either the newspapers have a source in the Yard (which I doubt, I dont believe the Yard will leak anything like that especially now in the thick of the hack inquiry) or the newspapers must have concluded that themselves based on the general comments of the Yard that they would be ready to interview people once they laid the groundwork. This may simply be the newspapers shooting from the hip and nothing else. Or it may be they have their source but due to professional and ethical reasons cant name their source.

The Express and Mail would lose credibility if their headlines prove later to be misinformation. They have always been sycophantic hence it's always better to take their articles with a large bucket of salt, but one never knows, only time will tell.

not at all aiyoyo, not all! If you re-read my comments you'll see that I for one am not at all convinced this is McCann spin. I just don't believ they'd push any story that looks inward at themselves or the T7 OR their actions that night. It doesn't ring true.
If it were a story that said 'Yard to follow up Maddie gypsy snatch' itd be pretty certain it was McSpin. This just doesn't have their hallmark, IMO (unless they are changing tactics)

juliet wrote:What Richard Desmond said to the Leveson Inquiry was a very insouciant: "I apologise again to the McCanns etc etc etc, but there are views about the McCanns and what happened."

This was so refreshing after hearing Leveson grovel to the McCanns as if they were visiting Royalty. "May I thank you, your wonderfulnesses, for deigning to attend my humble hearing..." or words to that effect.

Desmond was clearly not giving a damn about the McCanns, and it seems likely that he put in Sunday's piece, with its provocative headline (initially at least) just to stir things up a bit.

I think it more likely that Clarence selected the Sunday Express precisely because the story would appear more credible to the McCann sceptics if it appeared in Desmonds paper. All Desmond really cares about is circulation and that was nice exclusive for him!

I can't really see how this story benefits the McCanns. Surely it would just remind people that there was always something fishy about the Tapas 7, and underline the feeling that "Aha, Scotland Yard are on to them, that weird children-neglecting gang of medics".

I don't see how it would divert attention from Pat Brown as hardly anyone in the UK knows about Pat Brown or her trip to Portugal.

juliet wrote:I can't really see how this story benefits the McCanns. Surely it would just remind people that there was always something fishy about the Tapas 7, and underline the feeling that "Aha, Scotland Yard are on to them, that weird children-neglecting gang of medics".

I don't see how it would divert attention from Pat Brown as hardly anyone in the UK knows about Pat Brown or her trip to Portugal.

juliet, I totally agree. 100%.

Thank you rainbowfairy. I like to think it's Richard Desmond cocking a snook McCann-wards!

juliet wrote:Thank you rainbowfairy. I like to think it's Richard Desmond cocking a snook McCann-wards!

Me too juliet!
I just can't see this being McSpin. If it were a 'new lead' 'posh spice lookalike' or even 'swarthy eggman hunt is on' I could believe it.
I guess the only way it could be a TM invention is to say 'Hey, the review is so thorough, they are even looking at us again' but no, I still don't see it. They've always been so resistant to the investigative spotlight shining in their direction hence someone should find out something they shouldn't. I just think a piece like this would be a massive risk for them.
There is NO need, in the mainstream media, to take focus off Pat's PdL trip. Your average Joe won't have a clue about it. Its sad, but mr and mrs average don't really care about maddie or the mccanns anymore, they are just a fading memory. Of course, if a conviction ever looks likely media attention will whip them all into a frenzy again! Til then, those who care about the case can be broadly divided thus;
1)Those of us who don't believe the official story and are looking for justice for Madeleine
2)Those desperately pushing the 'abduction scenario' and backing the McCanns to the hilt
3)Those with a personal reason to carry on the deception

Are there more?

Cheshire Cat wrote:

juliet wrote:What Richard Desmond said to the Leveson Inquiry was a very insouciant: "I apologise again to the McCanns etc etc etc, but there are views about the McCanns and what happened."

This was so refreshing after hearing Leveson grovel to the McCanns as if they were visiting Royalty. "May I thank you, your wonderfulnesses, for deigning to attend my humble hearing..." or words to that effect.

Desmond was clearly not giving a damn about the McCanns, and it seems likely that he put in Sunday's piece, with its provocative headline (initially at least) just to stir things up a bit.

I think it more likely that Clarence selected the Sunday Express precisely because the story would appear more credible to the McCann sceptics if it appeared in Desmonds paper. All Desmond really cares about is circulation and that was nice exclusive for him!

Oh come on Cheshire Cat, realistically you really think Desmond has time of the day for the like of CM or what he wants Desmond's paper to print?

Besides, the mccanns always give their exclusives to the SUN only. It's never an inclusive with the mccanns, especially not the Express.

The Express is waiting to get back their money. I am sure they are waiting to serve their just desserts come what may.

rainbow-fairy wrote:

juliet wrote:I can't really see how this story benefits the McCanns. Surely it would just remind people that there was always something fishy about the Tapas 7, and underline the feeling that "Aha, Scotland Yard are on to them, that weird children-neglecting gang of medics".

I don't see how it would divert attention from Pat Brown as hardly anyone in the UK knows about Pat Brown or her trip to Portugal.

juliet, I totally agree. 100%.

Ditto.

The newspapers don't like making payouts, they don't like being called into enquiries or be testified against after they have settled with a complainant, they will be waiting for the first opportunity for payback IMO. Likewise, the Mc's took a huge payment[strike] settlement for Kates diaries, then went on to use some rather strong terms to describe their feelings afterwards, it seemed as though Pinky had brokered a deal with the journos, at least from the LI video, then hot-footed it off stage left when rumbled.

The media have been used when convenient then given a hard slap when they didn't follow orders/script. It doesn't work that way, even a fool knows that.

IF, and it's a pretty big if, anything 100% concrete emerges about certain persons involvement in the disappearance, the media will IMO conduct a, metaphorically speaking, comprehensive slaughter of all those that jerked them around. And I would tentatively speculate that the draft copy for that day has been squirrelled away already.

Smokeandmirrors wrote:

rainbow-fairy wrote:

juliet wrote:I can't really see how this story benefits the McCanns. Surely it would just remind people that there was always something fishy about the Tapas 7, and underline the feeling that "Aha, Scotland Yard are on to them, that weird children-neglecting gang of medics".

I don't see how it would divert attention from Pat Brown as hardly anyone in the UK knows about Pat Brown or her trip to Portugal.

juliet, I totally agree. 100%.

Ditto.

The newspapers don't like making payouts, they don't like being called into enquiries or be testified against after they have settled with a complainant, they will be waiting for the first opportunity for payback IMO. Likewise, the Mc's took a huge payment[strike] settlement for Kates diaries, then went on to use some rather strong terms to describe their feelings afterwards, it seemed as though Pinky had brokered a deal with the journos, at least from the LI video, then hot-footed it off stage left when rumbled.

The media have been used when convenient then given a hard slap when they didn't follow orders/script. It doesn't work that way, even a fool knows that.

IF, and it's a pretty big if, anything 100% concrete emerges about certain persons involvement in the disappearance, the media will IMO conduct a, metaphorically speaking, comprehensive slaughter of all those that jerked them around. And I would tentatively speculate that the draft copy for that day has been squirrelled away already.

You betcha, Smokeandmirrors! In the same way that TV stations have at-the-ready obituaries for the Royals etc, I'd put my last penny on the fact the papers have an 'Arrest Special - How the Drama Unfolded' and another may be 'The Vilest Lie Ever'.
They will be wanting serious payback... You have to remember, I'd say all the journo's who were there at the time have very strong ideas about what happened - even sick-making Lazzeri (who wrote some pretty 'vile' stuff about TMcC herself). The stories only stopped and changed focus when the payouts began. Its been intimated more than once that the papers, in the present climate, just won't risk printing anything anti-McCann for fear of the ensuing libel payouts.
The journo's are not stupid, they know which side their bread is buttered. They need their job so print what they are told. I'll bet even Ms Lazzeri doesn't believe the McCanns as strongly as she appears to. That evidence, once seen, doesn't disappear. They are (fairly) intelligent people and most will have drawn the exact same conclusions as us (great big stinking rat).
They will be watching, waiting... Ready for the day they can exact their brutal revenge - and they will love EVERY minute of it (and the massive increase in sales!)