Re: OPERATION BRICK !

by Liz Eagles 14.06.24 20:11

Jill Havern wrote:
Liz Eagles wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:
Liz Eagles wrote:I am unable to find the rogatory interviews or Gerry McCanns blogs which are in the annals of the forum. It was these two subjects that caught my attention and has kept me on this forum for well over a decade.
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/search?search_keywords=rogatory

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/f60-pamalam-gerry-mccann-s-blogs
Is there a link to the rogatory interviews as a whole? I know it exists because I read it.
They would definitely be on Pamalam's website.

Can you post a link to Pamalam's website please.

by **Jill Havern** 14.06.24 20:21

https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/home.htm

by Liz Eagles 14.06.24 20:27

Jill, I was hoping for a direct link to the rogatory interviews.

by **Jill Havern** 14.06.24 20:29

https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm

by **crusader** 14.06.24 20:34

https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/

by **PeterMac** 15.06.24 7:19

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
and then all the others ins the same search

by **PeterMac** 15.06.24 7:42

Liz Eagles wrote:
PeterMac wrote:I think it is a case of finding anyone who will Touch this case, even with a very long barge pole.
Most are either clearly frightened, or have had the super-inaudible served on them,

The publisher is under attack as we speak.
Team McCann has a long reach and a lot of power and money behind it.
Wouldn't Mark Saunokonoko have been first choice?

Surely most of us recognise that by now no one has the choice of interviewer, nor indeed of publisher.
No main stream media will touch anything except the "Official story" - ludicrous though it is,- and will permit no discussion of
alternative scenarios.
Main stream publishers will shy away from anything likely to "Rock the boat" or attract the attention of Team McCann's attack dogs

Finding the publisher was not easy, and they are under attack from an 'unknown enemy' already
Many press outlets had promised to attend the book launch, but in the event very few turned up

Saunokonoko had expressed an interest some years ago – and always remember this book was substantially written three years ago, during COVID incidentally, which gave Brendt the time during lockdown to read the rogatories in such excruciating detail – but publication was held back for YEARS at the request and on the advice of H. Fülscher who did not wish it to compromise or divert from the work he was doing with the current trial.
Those with long and good memories for detail will recall Fülschers somewhat Delphic reference which is now made clear.

Mark Saunokonoko has now moved on and his former channel has gone Pro-McC (reportedly) so that avenue is no longer open.

Of all the rest who :
Have some media exposure
Are listened to, whether in agreement or criticism
and crucially
Are Brave enough to speak . . . .

Sonia P was perhaps his last chance

I don't think criticism of the Medium is well founded.
Let is concentrate on the Message, which ultimately boils down to ONE proposition alone

There was NO ABDUCTION ON THURSDAY 3/5/7

everything else flows from that, but is ultimately of lesser importance.
Whether Madeleine died on 2/5/7, or 1/5/7 or 30/4/7 or even 29/4/7 is an interesting detail but does not alter the force of the main proposition.

The parents state that Madeleine was abducted on 3/5/7
She wasn't

by Liz Eagles 15.06.24 8:08

crusader wrote:https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/

Thank you crusader. I'm using a small iPad at the moment and I'm not savvy with it. To add insult to injury I can't hold the bloody thing due to a sprained wrist.

I haven't managed to learn how to copy and paste.

by Liz Eagles 15.06.24 8:10

PeterMac wrote:https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
and then all the others ins the same search

Read them all but Payne's is the one to concentrate on.

Thank you Peter.....and Happy Birthday.

by Honesty 15.06.24 21:26

Surprised by how hesitant and nervous Payne appears to be in the interview.

by **PeterMac** 16.06.24 11:05

He is trying desperately to stick to the script but not to tell lies at the same time
And discovering it isn't possible.
What is telling is where he is asked about things which are clearly not covered by the agreed script, and then struggles as he needs time to make sure that what he says doesn't conflict with the story, or with what he has already said.

by Honesty 16.06.24 14:07

Thank you, Peter. Sounds like a good barrister or any well informed person could tear him to shreds.

by **crusader** 16.06.24 14:32

If only they could get the chance.

by **AnneCGuedes** 16.06.24 18:05

PeterMac wrote:

I don't think criticism of the Medium is well founded.
Let is concentrate on the Message, which ultimately boils down to ONE proposition alone

There was NO ABDUCTION ON THURSDAY 3/5/7

everything else flows from that, but is ultimately of lesser importance.
Whether Madeleine died on 2/5/7, or 1/5/7 or 30/4/7 or even 29/4/7 is an interesting detail but does not alter the force of the main proposition.

The parents state that Madeleine was abducted on 3/5/7
She wasn't

It follows from the total absence of any sign of abduction that the insistence of the parents, the MSM and the authorities on always referring to M's disappearance as an abduction is the real message.

by **Silentscope** 17.06.24 13:23

by Liz Eagles 17.06.24 13:49

Hands up by posting a yay if you have bothered to read the rogatory files.

by Liz Eagles 17.06.24 13:56

AnneCGuedes wrote:
PeterMac wrote:

I don't think criticism of the Medium is well founded.
Let is concentrate on the Message, which ultimately boils down to ONE proposition alone

There was NO ABDUCTION ON THURSDAY 3/5/7

everything else flows from that, but is ultimately of lesser importance.
Whether Madeleine died on 2/5/7, or 1/5/7 or 30/4/7 or even 29/4/7 is an interesting detail but does not alter the force of the main proposition.

The parents state that Madeleine was abducted on 3/5/7
She wasn't

It follows from the total absence of any sign of abduction that the insistence of the parents, the MSM and the authorities on always referring to M's disappearance as an abduction is the real message.

What is unclear and will remain unclear until Scotland Yard does its duty for a three year old tot is the super inaudible reference.

by Liz Eagles 17.06.24 14:05

Liz Eagles wrote:Hands up by posting a yay if you have bothered to read the rogatory files.

I mean every member on the forum.

by **PeterMac** 17.06.24 19:35

EDIT ::::: Posted simultaneously, with the one above. There's a coincidence for you Kate.

As Aquila, Liz E, has argued over many years, the rogatories and Gerrymccannsblogs hold masses of information.
But they are long, and appear daunting and boring to read in detail.
In the Brick Stellander makes a neat observation
"People say 'the Devil is in the detail'
I say 'the Truth is in the detail'

He did have the time to plough through them all and 'make notes' (

K McCann) during COVID lockdown
With the result we see
His analysis is also long, and can appear daunting, but is worth the effort for a full understanding of how he reaches his conclusions and why he is so confident.

And slightly off topic, but too good not to share

by **crusader** 18.06.24 8:18

My brick is coming today between 10 and 11 0clock. Mrs

by Cake Lover 18.06.24 8:41

if we don't hear from you for a couple of days we know why.

by **sandancer** 18.06.24 9:46

Will you be at the front door waiting ? Don't go to the bathroom that's when they always arrive

by Cake Lover 18.06.24 9:55

Too true ^ - I stayed in for two days waiting for a battery for my vacuum cleaner, and I was in the shower this morning when the courier phoned. I managed to be out by the time he rang the doorbell.

by **crusader** 18.06.24 9:57

I'm perched ready to pounce! Today is shopping day, I'm not moving until the brick is in my hands.

by **crusader** 18.06.24 10:15

It's here, I rushed out as soon as I saw the van arrive.
The van driver said he wished everyone was so pleased to see him.

by **Jill Havern** 18.06.24 10:22

Have you read it yet? clapping

by **crusader** 18.06.24 10:33

I daren't open it! I've got to go shopping.

by **PeterMac** 18.06.24 11:23

Get a sharp Kitchen knife or craft knife like a Stanley.
Insert it between pp 275 - 275
and slice the spine in a succession of cuts
until you get right through the thick glue and the shiny card cover
Then do it again between pp 602-603
You then have THREE books you can pick up, open and actually handle and read

Good luck. The first part (half a kilo) is heavy going for people who never read
the rogatory interviews in depth, but astonishing and enlightening for those too.,
as we realise how many admissions there are 'embedded' in them

And once you are though that, the second half Kilo (volume 2) calls on many of
Kate's admissions in her book and in interviews which tell us in detail about the death,
the circumstances, the date and the first disposal.

Then the third half Kilo is
"Indiana Stellander and The Secret Tomb"

by **Bluebagthepirate** 18.06.24 11:33

Brick finally ordered.

Website was a bit of a pain but it's done.

by **Jill Havern** 18.06.24 11:49

PeterMac wrote:
"Indiana Stellander and The Secret Tomb"

Love it!
(If it wasn't so serious)

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