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She looked very relaxed and was smiling - not how you'd expect a four year old to behave after being abducted by a stranger, locked up, and away from her mother for a couple of weeks.
Hmmm.....
I'm not buying it.
Shannon Matthews indeed Doug.
And as Peter said "There is much more to come out here"
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Very early days but Sharon Matthews - nah, not so far. I can't see any similarities nor any reason to suspect foul play within the family unit.
The bloke in hospital, who reportedly had been on a mission of self destruction, appears to be a bit of an oddball. Although a small community, I don't see any reason to connect the suspect with Cleo's family.
Time will tell, main thing is Cleo is safe and well so all's good with the world.

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and then drives the 75 miles (120 km.) back home to within a few streets of the exact house where the family lived.
"And that, m'Lud, concludes the case for the prosecution"
"Yeah OK. Sounds familiar". [pun intended !]
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Maybe he was already at the campsitePeterMac wrote:Man drives 75 miles (120 km) along a track to an exact remote campsite, chooses one exact tent, which was pitched there the exact evening before, selects one exact compartment in the exact tent and unzips the one exact zip on the off-chance that there is one exact small girl who is exactly light enough to carry away and exactly sleepy enough not to scream and wake everyone up,
and then drives the 75 miles (120 km.) back home to within a few streets of the exact house where the family lived.
"And that, m'Lud, concludes the case for the prosecution"
"Yeah OK. Sounds familiar". [pun intended !]

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" drives 75 miles to the exact campsite on the exact day, waits for the exact family to arrive . . ."
Was there an empty tent, or did he strike that beforehand.
We need more details, which obviously we are not going to get before the trial.
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He would have told the police by now of their involvement.
If there was a plan, I'm pretty sure it didn't include him being caught with Cleo.
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They supposedly arrived that day and she 'disappeared' overnight.
I would like to think the police were able to confirm she was actually there, but have seen no confirmation of this so far.
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PeterMac wrote:All things are possible – in which case please add ,
" drives 75 miles to the exact campsite on the exact day, waits for the exact family to arrive . . ."
Was there an empty tent, or did he strike that beforehand.
We need more details, which obviously we are not going to get before the trial.
Did it occur to you that, as is being suggested, it was opportunist? If so, the points you highlight are not coincidences at all, unless you examine everything rigidly backwards. Contrary to what you say, all things are not possible. Some things are impossible, but some things are possible, and an opportunist abduction is possible, guided by a variety of possible motives.
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The other thing the reporters seemed to highlight, as if it was a big deal, was that the property was 'only two minutes from the police station', but having identified the property as being in Tonkin Crescent, if this is only two minutes away, so is pretty much the whole of Carnarvon
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Madeleine McCann’s parents ‘have hope’ they will find missing daughter after Cleo Smith found alive and well
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16623687/madeleine-mccanns-parents-hope-cleo-smith-found-alive/
This is really an article about Maddie, not Cleo

Isn't it about time the McCanns sued the Germans for saying Maddie is dead? Aren't the Germans harming the search?
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Didn't take long for this oh so predictable article to appear. And from the usual source aswell.Jill Havern wrote:'GIVES US HOPE'
Madeleine McCann’s parents ‘have hope’ they will find missing daughter after Cleo Smith found alive and well
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16623687/madeleine-mccanns-parents-hope-cleo-smith-found-alive/
This is really an article about Maddie, not Cleo
Isn't it about time the McCanns sued the Germans for saying Maddie is dead? Aren't the Germans harming the search?
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Tolleshunt Knight wrote:
Did it occur to you that, as is being suggested, it was opportunist? If so, the points you highlight are not coincidences at all, unless you examine everything rigidly backwards. Contrary to what you say, all things are not possible. Some things are impossible, but some things are possible, and an opportunist abduction is possible, guided by a variety of possible motives.
It does occur to me, of course.
But the idea of someone driving 75 miles along a track at night to a campsite in the hope there might be a 4 year old girl in a separate compartment of a particular tent
and that the step-father would not be awake and armed with a didgeridoo, and.. and.. and
slightly influences the development of my thinking
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PeterMac wrote:Man drives 75 miles (120 km) along a track to an exact remote campsite, chooses one exact tent, which was pitched there the exact evening before, selects one exact compartment in the exact tent and unzips the one exact zip on the off-chance that there is one exact small girl who is exactly light enough to carry away and exactly sleepy enough not to scream and wake everyone up,
and then drives the 75 miles (120 km.) back home to within a few streets of the exact house where the family lived.
"And that, m'Lud, concludes the case for the prosecution"
"Yeah OK. Sounds familiar". [pun intended !]
I think the above post makes a lot of sense, the kidnapper could have been told how to identify the family by the colour and registration plate of the vehicle they were driving.
I still don't believe the Mother and partner were involved though.
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A couple of things still need to be cleared up.
Why was no ransom demand received?
What did he want to achieve?
The Victim was unharmed physically. (Thank God)
What was he waiting for?

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Your top line has posed an extremely interesting point. What was the motive?Silentscope wrote:The motive for this Crime has not yet become Public knowledge.
A couple of things still need to be cleared up.
Why was no ransom demand received?
What did he want to achieve?
The Victim was unharmed physically. (Thank God)
What was he waiting for?
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Jim Gamble also said he feels 'overwhelmed' and that Cleo’s rescue is 'simply the best news ever'
By Nicola Donnelly
05:00, 4 NOV 2021Updated08:29, 4 NOV 2021
An Irish detective who led an investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann said “hope wins out for a change” as missing Australian girl Cleo Smith has been found alive after going missing more than two weeks ago.
Jim Gamble - who was the senior child protection officer in the UK investigation into missing Maddie case - also said he feels “overwhelmed” and that Cleo’s rescue is “simply the best news ever.”
The former chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, who served as the senior child protection officer in the UK’s first investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance, also praised the work of Australian police who rescued four-year-old Cleo - dubbed ‘Aussie Maddie’ - on Wednesday after a late-night raid at a house which followed a tip to police the previous day.
Taking to Twitter as the news of Cleo’s rescue was announced, Mr Gamble wrote: “Simply the best news ever. Fantastic work. What an amazing result under such difficult circumstances and the glare of the media.”
The Bangor man, who is one of the UK’s most experienced and outspoken experts on the safeguarding of children online, also said he is “overjoyed that there is a happy ending in this case.”
“Thank God. Sometimes things can work out. There’ll be more work to do and plenty of support needed, but this is an amazing result,”
Mr Gamble, who now runs the Belfast-based INEQE Group which continues to spearhead the battle to make the online world safer for children, said he has “felt so overwhelmed” by the news of Cleo’s rescue.

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“So often in these cases you hope against all the odds. You keep believing in the possibility of a good outcome.
“Everytime it fails to materialise you lose something. This is a powerful reminder that good things can happen,” he said. “Hope wins out for a change.”
Following the rescue of Cleo, a 36-year-old local man was arrested.
Australian media reported that officials wept with relief after seeing a body camera video of a police officer scooping up the girl and hearing her say: “My name is Cleo.”
The girl was reunited with her mother Ellie Smith and stepfather Jake Gliddon soon after her rescue.
Western Australia State police commissioner Chris Dawson said the girl is “as well as you can expect”, adding: “This has been an ordeal. I won’t go into any more details, other than to say we’re so thankful she’s alive.”
Mr Dawson said “dogged, methodical police work” led to the girl being found.
Australian prime minister Scott Morrison reacted from the United Arab Emirates on his way home from the Cop26 climate summit in Scotland, thanking police for finding Cleo and supporting her family.
“It’s every parent’s worst nightmare. The fact that that nightmare has come to an end and our worst fears were not realised is just a huge relief, a moment for great joy,” Mr Morrison told reporters.
“This particular case, obviously, has captured the hearts of Australians as we felt such terrible sorrow for the family,” he added.
Cleo’s family lives in Carnarvon, a community of 5,000 people, and the girl had disappeared with her sleeping bag on the second day of a family camping trip at Blowholes Campground, 47 miles north of Carnarvon, on October 16.
A massive land and sea search was initially mounted in the sparsely populated region on the assumption that she had wandered from the tent. But more evidence began to support the theory that she had been abducted.
A vehicle was reported speeding away from the area in the early hours of the morning. A zip on a flap of the tent compartment where Cleo and her sister were sleeping was too high for the girl to have reached.
Forensic scientists examined the exterior of the family’s home to see if a predator had stalked Cleo and attempted to break in.
A distraught Ellie Smith made emotional public appeals for information on her daughter’s whereabouts that were broadcast across Australia over the past two weeks.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/cleo-smith-irish-detective-who-25372615
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Maybe he thought about getting a ‘real Doll’ ?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10164269/Cleo-Smith-Man-36-charged-kidnapping-missing-girl-Western-Australia.html
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It was only a matter of time.
Yes I can see the similarities now, as I could when news hit the headlines about the Australian Madeleine McCann - such were the parallels!
It's no wonder Messrs McCann Inc. are filled with hope

Yes I'm being facetious.
Their three year old daughter Madeleine 'disappeared' under mysterious circumstances over fourteen years ago, Cloe Smith disappeared for about three weeks and was found alive and well.

Why oh why does the British media think it necessary to append the name Madeleine McCann to practically every missing child across the globe?
Lest they forget .... it doesn't go away no matter how deep they try to bury..
We believe that the main damage was caused to the McCann arguidos, who lost the possibility to prove what they have protested since they were constituted arguidos: their innocence towards the fateful event; the investigation was also disturbed, because said facts remain unclarified.
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