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Post by Verdi on 01.06.20 1:06

The Netflix pro-duction is so heavily edited it makes a nonsense of matters that might otherwise be of interest.  I feel that cash inducement played a big part in this mockumentary.  

So far episode 1. Sandra Felgueiras - a shattering disappointment;  Neil Berry - bearing false witness;  Snr Amaral said to have been interviewed for the Netflix production - videoed footage taken from who knows where;  Jon Clarke of the Olive Press - heavily edited;  Robert Murat - previously unseen footage;  Anthony Summer and Robbyn Swan - no comment! + an assortment of non-entities recorded to spice up an otherwise bland dish.

One particular issue stands out above all else.  A local interviewed who assisted in the initial search .... 'hundreds of flyers were handed-out to help the search for the missing child'..

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But but but but .... the McCanns had these fresh images stored on their camera/s..

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Post by Verdi on 01.06.20 1:17

Oh and I almost forgot, probably the most important observation.

At the beginning of the episode, you hear what is said to be the voices of Gerry and Kate McCann - listen carefully, the voices are ever so slightly fuzzy.

The spoken words are not those I've ever heard recorded. Leads me to believe it to be fake.

If you don't believe me just watch!

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Post by Verdi on 01.06.20 21:22

In the Netflix production, Jon Clarke of the Olive Press said he received a phone call from the Daily Mail, very early Friday morning - about 7 or 7:30, asking him to rush down to Praia da Luz to report on a child who'd gone missing. He knew little else but off he went. During his journey he said he also received calls from the Mirror and the Sun (I think!).

I thought this rather strange as Lori Campbell, reporter for the Mirror, was sent to Praia da Luz to cover the story.

Note: Lori Campbell is the person who raised suspicions about the behaviour of Robert Murat leading to his being made arguido.

I presume Jon Clarke would be paid for any story forthcoming, in addition to their regular reporters. So why would they ask him to go to Portugal, knowing their own reporters were en-route?

I was looking for a credible source ( titter ) to confirm Lori Campbell's time of arrival, when I came across this little gem [acknowledgement pamalam at gerrymccannsblog]..

The net's closing in Sunday Mirror (paper edition)

Search for missing Maddy


• Police in hunt for a man acting strangely at complex
• Dad: I'm sure she'll be at 4th birthday next week

Lori Campbell Kate Mansey and Jon Clarke in the Algarve Portugal
6 May 2007


Detectives were last night closing in on a man they suspect of snatching little Maddy McCann from her holiday apartment.

They said they believed she was being held within three miles of the complex where she had been staying at Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve.

Guilhermino Encarnacao, chief of police in the region, said he had an artist's impression of the abductor but he feared that releasing it may put the three-year-old's life in danger.

He said he believed that Maddy had been taken by a sex offender, but there was also a possibility she had been kidnapped for a ransom - Maddy's parents are both doctors, her father a highly-paid heart specialist.

Mr Encarnacao said: "We have a prime suspect. A man has been seen acting strangely and we have a sketch, but we are not releasing it yet. We do not want to put the girl at risk.

"We believe the girl is still in Portugal, and probably nearby. I cannot rule out it was a paedophile who took her."

Police raised the hope that Maddy could be found as her anguished parents spent a second night waiting for news of their daughter.

Gerry and Kate McCann, both 38, of Rothley, Leics, are staying two doors down from the apartment that Maddy was taken from between 9pm and 10pm on Thursday.

Yesterday Gerry went into the apartment and emerged carrying a suitcase and a bucket and spade for younger twins Amelie and Sean, two.

The couple were later seen walking between apartment blocks in the resort with the twins, accompanied by friends.

They are being comforted by family and specially-trained officers from Leicestershire who have flown to Portugal.

One senior Portuguese detective told the Sunday Mirror yesterday: "We know of two or three local paedophiles living between Lagos and Praia da Luz. We have their names and addresses. We also have a list of English and German sex offenders living in the area from Interpol. We are following up every lead."

Yesterday Maddy's heartbroken grandmother told how the family were clinging to the hope she will be able to attend her fourth birthday party on Saturday.

Susan Healy told the Sunday Mirror: "We were looking forward to seeing her next weekend and giving her her presents, but this is just so awful.

"Her father is adamant that she will be found."

Relatives have made her a special Dr Who cake in honour of her favourite programme. Maddy had been asleep on a bed next to her brother Sean when she was snatched.

Her parents had been eating dinner at a restaurant in the Ocean Club resort 100 yards from the apartment.

They had been taking turns to check on the children every half hour as they slept. But a frantic search was launched when Kate went back to the apartment at 9.45pm and found Maddy gone.

More than 100 locals and holiday makers took part in the hunt.

Hotel workers from the Mark Warner Holiday complex held hands in a line and combed the beach while others scoured the resort and nearby roads.

A police source said they had been studying CCTV footage in petrol stations and on motorways near the resort.

There were also reports from expats that a young girl was seen walking down a road with a couple.

Last night 150 extra officers were drafted in to help with the search, as well as people from the Red Cross, Maritime Police and firemen.

It is thought someone had been spying on the apartment and broken in by forcing the shutters on the patio doors and entering the apartment when he knew the adults had gone.

The ground-floor apartment was on the edge of a public road so Maddy's abductor would have been able to make a quick getaway.

Yesterday family and friends flew in to the popular holiday resort from Liverpool, Glasgow and Canada to comfort Maddy's parents.

Looking tired and distraught, her mum Kate clasped her husband's hand as they walked out of the apartment with their twins between them to collect their belongings.

Last night the little girl's great uncle, Brian Kennedy, said: "We fear the worst, but we are hoping for the best."

Mr Kennedy insisted that the couple had acted responsibly when they left the children in the room while they had dinner at the restaurant. He said: "The children were left only in the sense that when you put your children to bed, you don't stay in the room all night.

"Madeleine is a lovely little girl, an intelligent, bright child. As parents, they are absolutely devoted to their children. You won't find more caring parents anywhere."

The seven other adults, who had been on holiday with the McCann family, left yesterday as planned, leaving the parents free to spend time with worried relatives.

Meanwhile, questions were being raised on how secure the apartments were. There was also criticism of how quickly the police reacted to Maddy's disappearance.

Paula Jones, 34, who manages the apartments where the McCann family were staying said the properties were a hot spot for burglaries. She said: "We have a real problem with break-ins at the apartments because lots of holiday makers don't double lock the patio doors.

"Burglars wait and watch the apartments so they know who is coming and going and they strike when tourists are out at the beach or in the restaurants."
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Post by Verdi on 14.06.20 13:49

I just love this tongue in cheek take on subject of the decade - the Netflix documentary.  You really need to open the link, it contains many images that I haven't the time nor inclination to upload but it all adds to the flavour..


Daft Places: Netflix Doccie on Madeleine McCann – Episode 6 Review & Analysis


March 21, 2019

An authentic true crime investigation narrows down suspects. Think of the evidence as a sort of tornado of dirt, debris, disorientating plumes and strong winds that tug one one way or the other. But there is a centre to all this confusion, and a clear path that the tornado is taking us on.

Bogus true crime, or Apologia [the TCRS term for a “Sympathy Narrative” that serves the suspects] does the opposite of funneling towards a concrete result. In episode 6 we begin to see that reverse muddying process. Now that Madeleine has been resurrected, it’s back to square one. Who took her?

There’s some focus on Robert Murat, the first suspect and arguably the prime suspect. Many “good reasons” are put forward for Murat being the right profile for a pedophile abductor. The investigation builds him up as a suspect. Some millionaire dude interrogates him and bugs their conversation. But then when all is said and done, it’s not Murat. But could it be Murat’s friend Sergey Malinka. And so gradually the vortex of the “investigation” widens until it dissipates completely, becoming an enormous garden. The private detective now enters the scene as a vivid butterfly hopping from one flower to the next. Each flower is introduced as a very credible suspect, only to be abandoned in lieu of the next flower. It’s compelling stuff. Could it be this guy! How about that one!

As a sure sign that the filmmakers are not only drunk on their own Kool-Aid, but are trying to serve it to an unsuspecting public, the narrative twirls back to the Tanner sighting and attempts to recast the sighting as something [someone] else. Remember, Murat and Malinka have now been thrown to the curb as suspects so it’s time for a new character to rise as the next suspect. And the more flowery the better.

I’m not going to indulge in the backstory of the creepy, bucktooth fella who was knocking on doors trying to raise dosh for his dodgy orphanage scheme. Suffice it to say, it forms a creepy if unacknowledged parallel to the idea of sinister doctors knocking on television sets trying to raise dosh on the dodgy premise of a disappearing daughter. For more information on Gail Cooper and how the Creeper Narrative came into being, click on the story below.

‘Creepy’ bucktooth man spotted lurking near Madeleine McCann flat before she vanished was seen weeks later with kid matching Maddie’s description – The Sun

Now that a new character has been conjured into existence, he needs to be connected somehow to Madeleine McCann. He LOOKS suspicious, he WALKS suspiciously, he has DUBIOUS intent with his little door-to-door deception, but for him to walk into the McCann mythos he needs some sort of conveyor. Enter Jane Tanner!

Admittedly, the new sketch was an 80% likeness, wasn’t it? Both men wore a brown coat or jacket and both wore lighter-colored trousers. The original sketch showed a man with long hair, and the creeper had longish black hair.  Well, no, because the reality is Tanner claimed she never saw the man’s face, so the 80% has to be the whole outfit, the hair and everything else BUT the face.

On the other hand, by leaving Tannerman’s face blank, one could put any man’s face in there and it could an 80% fit, couldn’t it? All of the above is just logical conjecture of course. In order to prove how much punch is in this particular concoction of Kool-Aid, we need only refer to Tannerman himself. Oddly, the docuseries neglects or conveniently forgets the part where Tannerman actually comes forward, identifies himself and even hands over the clothing he wore to the media. He not only admits it was him, he admits he was there, carrying his child from the Ocean Club creche home that night.

Tannerman turns out not to be nearly the murky, shadowy, titillating mystery sighting it’s been pretending to be [for years]. It’s this guy.

His name is Dr. Julian Totman. Totman was holidaying with his wife [identified by the initial “R”] and two small children, William [4] and a three-year-old girl whose name starts with “L”. The Totmans were staying in apartment 4GM, which was part of the same Ocean Club complex as the McCanns, but in a separate block situated to the east. In the image below the Totman’s apartment would be approximately where the word “Road” appears midway in the image on the right.

In the image below it’s clearer how the Ocean Club apartments are spread out into two separate blocks. In a separate post I’ll show how the apartments are identified according to a grid, and where some of the most important “players” stayed in these apartments. 5A was the McCanns’ apartment, the five designating “block 5” and the “A” the ground floor on the far-right. The Totman’s apartment, 4GM, refers to “block 4″ [the block on the left in the image below” and the “G” to a second-floor apartment, which would have been on floor above the McCanns’ flat but in the neighboring block.

Naturally episode six contrives to conjure a creeper into the blank face of Tannerman, even though Totman himself came forward and said, “Hey, it’s me!” In spite of this, and this is a huge indictment of the scam surrounding the “abduction” and the bogusness of both the media “coverage” and the “official” police investigation, Tannerman continued to remain a credible sighting for years on end. It’s important to bear in mind that this expensive, tedious and bogus wild goose chase came from one of the Tapas 7, and despite being told by Portuguese police not to comment publicly on what they saw.

Jane Tanner, in her wisdom, defied these orders. At the time she said:

“I think it’s important that people know what I saw because I believe Madeleine was abducted.’’

From The Sun article [May 2018] Why did cops investigating Madeleine McCann’s disappearance waste four years on ‘Tannerman’ lead – despite GP saying it was probably him?

And with Portuguese laws prohibiting the release of photofits of suspects, the McCanns put out an artist’s sketch of “Tannerman” in October 2007. But efforts by the Totmans, who live in the South West, to point out the importance of Julian’s movements fell on deaf ears. They were never contacted by Leicestershire police, whose officers were responsible at the time for collating all UK inquiries.

Also of import is that the color of the child’s clothing in the Tanner sighting didn’t match the color of Madeleine’s Totman’s daughter’s clothing, as described by Kate and Gerry during their numerous roadshows.

Totman’s daughter’s clothes were bright, especially the shirt, with long sleeves and long leggings with especially bright orange ankle-ends. These were facing Tanner and yet Jan Tanner noticed the frilly edges of Madeleine’s pants instead. Madeleine’s outfit was all short sleeves and shorter leggings.

In any event, it seems unlikely that the McCann doctors [and the doctors within the Tapas 7] would not know about another guest who was also a doctor, and who was using the same creche they were using. It’s probably a good point now to indicate where the creche was vis-a-vis the Tapas Bar.

In the image below the yellow arrow shows the Tapas Bar oriented from the perspective of the McCanns’ apartment. The small square tent right behind it [circle] is the creche. This shows how patently ridiculous it was not to have their kids looked after in the facilities that were right there [and facilities used by Dr. Totman, as it happened].

The circled area to the right [the East] of the Tapas restaurant was also a play area for kids, and an area where some of the very few photos of Madeleine were taken.

And yet with all this going on, when Jane Tanner saw Totman, she didn’t recognise him. Another aspect that seems more than a little iffy in Tanner’s sighting was that she Totman walking in the direction of Murat’s house – away from his apartment. Was this human error, or a deliberate re-adaptation of what she said?

The docuseries appears to make this creepy fellow the new Tannerman, when in reality Jane Tanner’s “Dr Totman” Tannerman remained the crux of the investigation for several years, despite the British cops knowing it was a bullshit lead. It seems the PR processes around the investigation have tried to conflate the botching of the investigation [going after Tannerman] with an error on the Portuguese side. But the Portuguese cops maintained all along that they didn’t take the Tannerman sighting seriously. So who is playing who for the fool here?

https://crimerocket.com/2019/03/21/daft-places-netflix-doccie-on-madeleine-mccann-episode-6-review-analysis/


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The docuseries appears to make this creepy fellow the new Tannerman, when in reality Jane Tanner’s “Dr Totman” Tannerman remained the crux of the investigation for several years, despite the British cops knowing it was a bullshit lead.

And still does to this day it would appear..

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Post by Verdi on 15.06.20 13:28

I've just received an email from Netflix asking me if I want to watch the Madeleine McCann documentary again !?!

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Post by Verdi on 02.07.20 13:15

I venture to suggest that Mark Williams-Thomas is an out and out fraud.  A failed cop turned opportunists, guided by pieces of silver..

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Post by Liz Eagles on 02.07.20 13:29

@Verdi wrote:I venture to suggest that Mark Williams-Thomas is an out and out fraud.  A failed cop turned opportunists, guided by pieces of silver..

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The helicopter images have been replaced with a much more 'American' undercover super sleuth. 

Remember Jim Gamble or 'Jimmy two flags' and his interference in the life and death of a three year old girl.

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Post by Verdi on 11.07.20 22:18

This is Julian Peribañez..



Julian Peribañez worked for Metodo3, the private detective company hired by Brian Kennedy and the Find Madeleine Co Ltd.  Anyone familiar with the case of Madeleine McCann's disappearance, will be aware of the detail concerning Metodo3.

I don't remember (if ever I knew) when the Netflix production commenced but it wasn't screened until March 2019 - that's almost 12 years following Madeleine McCann's reported disappearance. Yet here we have Julian Peribañez featuring prominently in the documentary.  I find that very curious. The documentary supporting cast, those who are actually interviewed and filmed rather than archive media footage, consists entirely of McCann supporters.

How, when and where did Peribañez become involved - especially bearing in mind the fact that Metodo3 were sacked by the McCann team?  Basically they failed to fulfill promises - but were paid for the contract period anyway.  This interesting article by Oxygen might answer a few questions..

Who Is Julian Peribañez And What DID He Uncover About The Madeleine McCann Case?


Julian Peribañez relentlessly tracked down leads in the Madeleine McCann case, even infiltrating the seedy underworld of sex trafficking to try to find the missing 3-year-old.

20th March 2019

When 3-year-old Madeleine McCann vanished from her bed in the middle of the night, one investigator was willing to stop at nothing to find her, going on high-speed car chases, leading covert operations, and even infiltrating the seedy, dark underworld of child trafficking in the months after her disappearance to try to uncover the truth.

Julian Peribañez was consumed with the case, even answering calls to a tip line on his own cell phone at all hours of the night to gain new clues about what may have happened to the missing 3-year-old, who was thought to have been abducted in May 2007 while on a family vacation in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

The investigator, who had grown up watching police movies and James Bond flicks, worked for Metodo 3, a private investigation firm hired by the McCann family and wealthy benefactor Brian Kennedy to explore avenues that weren’t being considered by police in Portugal. In Netflix's new docu-series "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann," which delves into the infamous case, Peribañez's search efforts are examined again.

“I said ‘Go for it. Delve into what you know you can delve into, below the surface of what’s going on, and the criminal factions in that area in Portugal, and Spain and Morocco. Find out what you possibly can’ and they went about it, I have to say, with great gusto,” Kennedy said of hiring Metodo 3 in 2007 in “The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann.”

After meeting Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, Peribañez said the mission became “personal” and he set off to Portugal where he spent eight months on the ground working the case.

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Julian Peribañez was an investigator on the Madeleine McCann case. Photo: Netflix

“Julian was someone that was very thorough and very energetic, and he was unforgiving with certain things, of pursuing people,” Patrick Kennedy, Brian’s son, said. “He was the type that would go all out.”

Brian had asked Patrick to help manage the investigation, so Patrick and Peribañez worked together on occasion in the case.

Peribañez did all sorts of things while in Portugal. Investigators tracked leads from potential witnesses, worked with sketch artists to create images to release to the public, searched an abandoned property where the young girl was rumored to be, and tailed possible suspects.

“We found names and addresses of pedophiles in the Praia de Luz area. We’d follow them. We weren’t allowed to do that, we needed permission of the police to do that, but quite frankly I didn’t care,” Patrick said.

Peribañez said his status as a private investigator gave him “more freedom to investigate than being a cop.”

For example, when Robert Murat, a British-Portuguese real estate agent who seemed overly eager to help in the case, emerged as a potential suspect, investigators put a tracker on his car to try to see where he went and who he might meet up with up (Murat later discovered the device).

Peribañez also followed Sergey Malinka, a business associate of Murat's who was also considered a suspect in the case, and even offered him up to “half a million or something” to talk about the case after being instructed by his boss to suggest the money.

Malinka denied knowing anything about the case and refused the money.

There was high media scrutiny about both men at the time; however, after looking closely at both suspects Peribañez said it seemed unlikely either were involved.

But Peribañez didn't stop his investigation here. He was intrigued by another similar case in Portugal in 2004, which involved the disappearance of a local girl named Joana Cipriano. Her mother said the 8-year-old had left her home to go to the store in the Portuguese village of Figueira and never returned.

Police later claimed the girl was killed by her mother and uncle after she walked in on them having sex. Police said they chopped her up and placed her body parts in a small refrigerator at the home before throwing her remains to the pigs. Her mother, Leonor Cipriano, and her brother, João Cipriano were both sentenced to jail for the crime, ABC News reported in 2007.

Watch  Out Of Sight: The Disappearance Of Madeleine McCann   Friday, March 29 at 9/8c, only on Oxygen

But the documentary focused on a series of photographs seemingly showing Leonor battered and bruised, suggesting she may have been coerced into giving the confession.

Peribañez later tracked down João's former cellmate and recorded an interview with the unnamed man, who claimed the girl was alive but had been sold to a foreign family.

“I know that he received quite a lot of money,” the cellmate can be heard saying in the video played in the documentary. He also claimed to have seen a photo of the girl after she disappeared. In the image, he said, she appeared to be in a room that was “not from somewhere poor.”

The documentary speculated that McCann may have met a similar fate and could have been the victim of sex trafficking.

“This was the biggest moment for me on the case, because it really gave me proof that there was an organization working in Portugal and it also gave us a hope of trying to find that network. And if we could find the network, we could find Madeleine,” Peribañez said.

Typically, he said, sex trafficking victims are from lower class backgrounds, suggesting the value for Madeleine could have been significant and possibly worth the risk to the abductor.

“My idea is that the value that Madeleine had was really high because if they took her it was because they were going to get a lot of money,” he said in the documentary, adding that he believes she could still be alive.

Peribañez began to infiltrate the dark web into secretive trafficking and child pornography channels in the hopes of learning something about McCann’s fate.

These dark web channels aren’t indexed, making it difficult to track users and a nefarious way for criminals to communicate with one another.

“There’s a tsunami of indecent images online. Current estimates are, in the UK alone, that 100,00 IP addresses, computer IP addresses can be downloading incident images of children at any given moment in time,” Jim Gamble, a former senior police officer with the CEOP, said in the docu-series.

To gain access to the channels, Peribañez had to pretend to be of a similar mindset and comment on how “good” the images were. The work brought him to the “darkest places” of humanity, he said, and forced him to see images he’ll have to carry with him for the rest of his life.

“I’ve done thousands of cases, the Madeleine case, I’ve seen the worst things a human being can see,” he said.

But as Peribañez was delving further into the sex trafficking underworld, his boss at Metodo 3 made comments to the media that ultimately led the family to fire the firm and hire another investigative firm to continue the work.  

Francisco Marco, the director general of Metodo 3, claimed in 2007 that the agency knew who had taken Madeleine and that they hoped to have the little girl home by Christmas, according to the Evening Standard.

Peribañez said in the documentary that the claim was “unbelievable” and that they didn’t have any clue at the time who may have taken the young girl. The family soon decided not to work with the firm any longer.

“I was ashamed of course,” the private investigator said. “I was shocked and ashamed.”

Although Metodo 3 would no longer be working on the McCann case, Peribañez’ efforts to infiltrate the sex trafficking world would lead to multiple arrests.

The private investigator handed the research he’d done to Spain’s Policia Nacional, which launched an investigation dubbed “Lolita P-mix.”

As a result of the investigation, 13 people were arrested, according to Juan Carlos Ruiloba, the former head of the crime unit Policia Nacional.

“That’s the best thing that came from this case,” Peribañez said. “The thing that I am most proud of.”

Years after the McCann investigation, Marco, Peribañez and two other detectives would be arrested as part of a political spy scandal that rocked Spain, according to El Pais. The agency was accused of recording conversations between the head of the Popular Party in Catalonia, Alicia Sánchez-Camacho, and an ex-girlfriend of the son of the region’s ex-premier about alleged money laundering activities.

Peribañez and suspect Alex Borrequero allegedly told investigators they had recorded the conversation on the orders of their boss.

https://www.oxygen.com/martinis-murder/julian-peribanez-investigator-disappearance-madeleine-mccann


I've said before how incredible it is that not one of the private detectives hired by team McCann tracked down the latest German suspect.  Especially as he was said to be tramping around the region of Luz on and off, more importantly at the time of Madeleine McCann's disappearance.  Naturally, the Portuguese police are getting the blame but what of Metodo3 and  Peribañez who apparently continues to work on the case !?!

This leads me to wonder if  Peribañez is behind this latest publicity stunt, with the German prisoner as the new suspect.  Some (a lot?) of  the content of the Netflix production ties in with the stories currently hyped by the UK and German media reports about this novel German suspect.

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Post by pauloalexandre on 11.07.20 23:43

Further to that, the whole idea that this guy admitted that he would "cross the line" during his private investigation while failing to succeed in his quest, and the documentary makes it seem as though he was just doing his job as honestly as he could - when that was far from the case - really speaks volumes as to the bias of the whole show (and that's the right word to describe it).

I really wonder why Mr. Peribañez took a keen interest in the Joana Cipriano case. Some people might argue that that was because the two disappearances occurred near Portimão... but is it really the reason?

There were some cases of children going missing near Praia da Luz, including one of a 6-year old named René Hasee, which was recently reported in British press. Mr. Peribañez didn't seem to care.

But Peribañez didn't stop his investigation here. He was intrigued by another similar case in Portugal in 2004, which involved the disappearance of a local girl named Joana Cipriano. Her mother said the 8-year-old had left her home to go to the store in the Portuguese village of Figueira and never returned.

Police later claimed the girl was killed by her mother and uncle after she walked in on them having sex. Police said they chopped her up and placed her body parts in a small refrigerator at the home before throwing her remains to the pigs. Her mother, Leonor Cipriano, and her brother, João Cipriano were both sentenced to jail for the crime, ABC News reported in 2007.

Watch Out Of Sight: The Disappearance Of Madeleine McCann Friday, March 29 at 9/8c, only on Oxygen

But the documentary focused on a series of photographs seemingly showing Leonor battered and bruised, suggesting she may have been coerced into giving the confession.

Peribañez later tracked down João's former cellmate and recorded an interview with the unnamed man, who claimed the girl was alive but had been sold to a foreign family.

“I know that he received quite a lot of money,” the cellmate can be heard saying in the video played in the documentary. He also claimed to have seen a photo of the girl after she disappeared. In the image, he said, she appeared to be in a room that was “not from somewhere poor.”

The Netflix documentary disregarded the convictions of Leonor Cipriano and João Cipriano and advanced a theory that Joana was still alive.

They also found Leonor's claim of coerced confession by the PJ officers credible, although no officer has been convicted for such crime, mainly because she contradicted herself multiple times when describing her alleged beating by the PJ.

This information is easily verifiable, but neither the Netflix documentary nor the UK media point out these discrepancies.

You have got to wonder why the British media and the Netflix documentary would be speaking in favour of these convicted liars.

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Post by Verdi on 12.07.20 1:07

I believe the key to be in the name of Gonçalo Amaral.

It was/is fundamental (is that the new buzz word?) that the name Amaral be disgraced.

They've been promoting this anti-Amaral campaign since the disclosure of the PJ files in the public arena - if not before. Gonçalo Amaral must be silenced at all cost ... but why? Because the investigation under his leadership was on the right track?

Maybe ....

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Post by pauloalexandre on 12.07.20 1:35

Not only the name Amaral, but the names of other officers who like to eat sardines and drink a glass of red wine.

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Post by Verdi on 12.07.20 1:45

Grilled sardine washed down with copious drafts of red wine .... pure heaven angel

Bonne santé - or as they say in the east end of London Good elf drinks !

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Post by Lance De Boils on 12.07.20 8:32

As per a quote above:
"Madeleine McCann’s parents are ‘on tenterhooks’ as Portuguese police launch new search"


I'll bet they are on tenterhooks!

(Trying to do this on a phone - sorry for the state of my posts & lack of proper quotes.)
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Post by Lance De Boils on 18.07.20 14:35

I missed the Nexflix tale. Without a subscription, is it possible to watch anywhere l can watch it all without paying?
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Post by pauloalexandre on 18.07.20 15:09

The Netflix tale, as you brilliantly call it, is the same one we've been getting for the past 13 years. Here it goes:

1. Madeleine McCann disappeared from her hotel room on the night of May 3rd 2007, in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

2. The crime scene was contaminated by many people, including the GNR and the PJ, who bungled the investigation right from the start.

3. There were multiple burglars and pedophiles in the area who could have snatched Madeleine.

4. The McCanns and their friends' statements have discrepancies, but they're easily explainable by time and confusion factors.

5. The dogs that were brought to smell the odour of cadaver and find blood traces detected in locations solely associated with the McCanns, but the dogs' findings can only be corroborated by forensic evidence.

6. The DNA found in the McCanns' hire car which points to the possibility of Madeleine's body having been deposited there is inconclusive, so therefore this lead should be immediately discarded.

7. Many thousands of British taxpayers' money and donations were spent in private investigations, which didn't come to any sensible conclusion as to the circumstances of Madeleine's disappearance. There were fraudsters involved, including one called Kevin Halligen, but that was just a mistake on the part of a generous, very kind millionaire Brian Kennedy.

8. Gonçalo Amaral, the initial lead investigator of the Madeleine McCann case, wrote a book alleging that Madeleine had died in the apartment and that the McCanns and their friends had covered it up. He was also involved in another missing child case, where he was convicted for having falsified a statement. The child in that case is alive, and the parents were wrongly framed for her disappearance.

9. Scotland Yard underwent a review of the case, which eventually reopened in 2011, establishing their own investigative team. Andy Redwood, one of the chief inspectors, had a "revelation moment" when he found the man that Jane Tanner had seen, who was just an innocent British holidaymaker picking his child up from one of the night creches.

10. The McCanns have done everything in their power to find their daughter Madeleine, and they will not stop until they know what truly happened.

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Post by sandancer on 18.07.20 15:54

Ably choreographed by Summers and Swan , Jim Gamble , Brian Kennedy , Old Uncle Tom Cobley and all , not forgetting " Pugh Pugh ,,Barney McGrew , Cuthbert , Dibble and Grub " ! 
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Post by PeterMac on 18.07.20 16:08

Strange that neither João nor Leonor who were on trial for murder and clearly facing very long prison sentences bothered to mention to the court that the girl was still alive and well, and could probably be traced without much effort.
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Post by Lance De Boils on 19.07.20 5:59

@pauloalexandre wrote:The Netflix tale, as you brilliantly call it, is the same one we've been getting for the past 13 years. Here it goes:

1. Madeleine McCann disappeared from her hotel room on the night of May 3rd 2007, in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

2. The crime scene was contaminated by many people, including the GNR and the PJ, who bungled the investigation right from the start.

3. There were multiple burglars and pedophiles in the area who could have snatched Madeleine.

4. The McCanns and their friends' statements have discrepancies, but they're easily explainable by time and confusion factors.

5. The dogs that were brought to smell the odour of cadaver and find blood traces detected in locations solely associated with the McCanns, but the dogs' findings can only be corroborated by forensic evidence.

6. The DNA found in the McCanns' hire car which points to the possibility of Madeleine's body having been deposited there is inconclusive, so therefore this lead should be immediately discarded.

7. Many thousands of British taxpayers' money and donations were spent in private investigations, which didn't come to any sensible conclusion as to the circumstances of Madeleine's disappearance. There were fraudsters involved, including one called Kevin Halligen, but that was just a mistake on the part of a generous, very kind millionaire Brian Kennedy.

8. Gonçalo Amaral, the initial lead investigator of the Madeleine McCann case, wrote a book alleging that Madeleine had died in the apartment and that the McCanns and their friends had covered it up. He was also involved in another missing child case, where he was convicted for having falsified a statement. The child in that case is alive, and the parents were wrongly framed for her disappearance.

9. Scotland Yard underwent a review of the case, which eventually reopened in 2011, establishing their own investigative team. Andy Redwood, one of the chief inspectors, had a "revelation moment" when he found the man that Jane Tanner had seen, who was just an innocent British holidaymaker picking his child up from one of the night creches.

10. The McCanns have done everything in their power to find their daughter Madeleine, and they will not stop until they know what truly happened.
Thank you. Just the old regurgitated stuff then. 
I expected as much, hence my long delay in trying to watch it.
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Post by Verdi on 23.07.20 1:04

A reminder..

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Maskedman

This fictitious 're-enactment' was included in the Netflix production and heavily promoted by the Summer and Swann double act.

Aside from the latest prime suspect, Germanman, who invented the masked intruder with a penchant for little and not so little girls?

Like the Smith family saw smithman - allegedly, you'd think someone, just someone, would have witnessed a stranger walking, strolling, running around the streets of Luz dressed unlike a tourist.


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Post by pauloalexandre on 03.09.20 23:45

Indeed, it's very interesting how Gonçalo Amaral doesn't appear in the final episode of the Netflix documentary.

I reckon that it's because it would have ruined the overall message of the finale, which was exactly what I said above:
The McCanns have done everything in their power to find their daughter Madeleine, and they will not stop until they know what truly happened.
With this phrase in the viewer's mind, all doubts about the McCanns' version of events and the evidence which points to a large web of deceit having been woven in the aftermath of the reported disappearance (fabricated sightings/statements) will be casted aside. Therefore, the viewer will undoubtedly look in the wrong direction, waiting for imaginary pedophiles or clumsy burglars to be charged and convicted. The result will be confusion and ignorance, assisted by media propaganda, phoney investigators and purported journalists such as Mrs. Swan and Mr. Summers (who I regard as masters of disinformation and outright obfuscations).

But the evidence still remains - Madeleine McCann was not abducted.

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