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Post by Keitei 22.08.17 13:36

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Scotland Yard want more money to continue the search for Madeleine McCann...but serving cops - at least four of them - have told me that within the ranks it's considered 'one of the biggest cover ups in British history'.
That partly explains why Metropolitan Police officers contributed to the fund of Goncalo Amaral - the Portuguese ex-cop who led the hunt for Madeleine and whose life was shattered after he wrote and broadcast about it (he won the case, incidentally, for those who don't know).
I've been told that ministers will agree to the demands for more money. We shall see.
Still, what's £11m PLUS for one search if it means it can stall any potentially explosive media explorations into the story that cannot be aired while a live investigation is ongoing?
It's a drop in the ocean to all the people who are deeply invested in ensuring that only the theory of abduction is pursued.
To be clear: I'm not making any accusations against anyone but I am saying that this is a case that is most definitely not what it appears to be.

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Post by sallypelt 22.08.17 15:15

According to an earlier link that has already been posted on this Forum, Sonia Poulton has said that "serving cops" have told her that the Madeleine McCann case is one of the biggest cover-ups in British history.  OF COURSE IT IS. Everyone with a functioning brain-cell KNOWS that it is, but the question is what ARE they covering up??

I have started this thread because I  want everyone to read the title, and to not forget it, in a hurry. The British public AND the rest of the world have been taken for fools, or at least that is what the establishment thought, but people are NOT as stupid as those higher up would like to believe.



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Post by Guest 22.08.17 15:29

Keitei wrote:Still, what's £11m PLUS for one search if it means it can stall any potentially explosive media explorations into the story that cannot be aired while a live investigation is ongoing?
That statement is fundamentally nonsensical - the UK media can easily be circumvented, who gives a damn these days what they report or don't report.  They count for nothing in this age of technology.

Numerous individuals and groups have researched the case of Madeleine McCann have written extensively on the subject without restraint and indeed produced video on video, all freely available for all to read/watch across the globe.  Some offical/professional sources and some just concerned members of the public - all beavering away whilst investigations are live.

Besides, does anyone out there really believe the UK media, with all their sycophantic pro-McCann journalists and Murdoch disciples,  would willingly volte-face after churning out false information for ten years  notme ?

What goes on outside the UK is of course a different matter altogether winkwink .
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Post by JRP 22.08.17 16:36

Any chance of a name or four? because that's just hearsay, and hearsay's next door neighbour is called Bullsh*t

"Scotland Yard want more money to continue the search for Madeleine McCann...but serving cops - at least four of them - have told me that within the ranks it's considered one of the biggest cover ups in British history".
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Post by roy rovers 22.08.17 17:08

Did she forget to ask what it is that is being covered up?
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Post by sharonl 22.08.17 19:10

Serving cops, at least four, told Sonia Poulton that within the ranks it's considered 'one of the biggest cover ups in British history' - Really?  

Pull the other one Sonia, no serving cop who wants to keep his job, pension etc. would grass up his colleagues and his superiors to a journalist or any one else.  Neither would any self respecting cop discuss a high profile ongoing case in that manner.
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Post by Cmaryholmes 22.08.17 19:55

Still waiting for the documentary, Sonia.
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Post by Guest 22.08.17 21:23

JRP wrote:Any chance of a name or four? because that's just hearsay, and hearsay's next door neighbour is called Bullsh*t

"Scotland Yard want more money to continue the search for Madeleine McCann...but serving cops - at least four of them - have told me that within the ranks it's considered one of the biggest cover ups in British history".
Colin 'nudge nudge wink wink' Sutton (un-sourced) -  multiplied by 4 .  smilie

Someone recently told me that the bungling boozy sardine munching Portuguese disgraced cops tried to stitch-up dear dear Gerry and Kate McCann by planting damning evidence.  Oh no, wait a minute - that was Tracey Kandohla of the Daily Tablet.

Hearsay counts for nothing.  Put up or shut up!
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Post by willowthewisp 22.08.17 22:04

Cmaryholmes wrote:Still waiting for the documentary, Sonia.
The UK and Worlds press have systematically covered the disappearance of Madeleine McCann reported as 3 May 2007,tie into the fact of the NoTW reward of 1 Million pound for the "Safe Return"of Madeleine?
beside the world renowned Tapas 7/9,their does appear to be an awful lot of people,who knew a majority of people based in the Mark Warner complex,Stephen Carpenter, the Goddards and people from in and around the Exeter region of England,property etc,then there is the Irish connection?
One of the biggest mysterious events was the "Deliberate targeting" of Mrs Brenda Leyland,especially when a "Dossier"was handed to the Metropolitan Police Chief,Sir Bernard Hogan Howe who did absolutely nothing to investigate the nasty pernicious comments posted about Mrs Brenda Leyland,infact No UK police Force has bothered to find the culprits,but castigated Brenda as a nasty piece of work and needed exposing,eh Big Jim,Gerry,Martin Brunt,etc?
I do hope the Home Office state,enough,is enough after a so called obfuscation to police work,Operation Grange,blah,blah so many pages,so many ties etc,bascially BS to make them look and feel busy?
Perhaps the real analysis would then begin to reason as to why the Metropolitan Police Service have "Never cautioned" the Tapas 7/9 or Kate and Gerry with regard to the date of Madeleine McCann' disappearance 3 May 2007?
What are you afraid of Mr Policeman,the Truth emerging?
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Post by Guest 23.08.17 7:14

"At least four of them".

Can't she remember the exact number? She said they spoke to her and told her.

Very odd.

But what she says does sound like she's nailed her colours to the mast on our side. I can't think how this could be some kind of set-up against us.
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Post by Verity 23.08.17 8:13

sallypelt wrote:According to an earlier link that has already been posted on this Forum, Sonia Poulton has said that "serving cops" have told her that the Madeleine McCann case is one of the biggest cover-ups in British history. 
She doesn't say that the "serving cops" are serving cops in the Met Police who are giving her insider information, they could be serving cops in any old force voicing an opinion. 

My son is a serving cop in South Yorkshire police and I often have conversations with him and his (at least four) cop mates about this cover up. The difference is I'm not a reporter trying to make a name for myself.

Like Colin Sutton, Sonia doesn't name names so it's hearsay, rumour, urban myth. Why doesn't she go on to a Sky sofa and say that?

And how can she say "at least four"? It's really not difficult to count above that number. If it was five why not say five?

At least Colin Sutton made his claims in the mainstream media, whereas Sonia made hers on her own facebook page that could easily be deleted.

If Sonia, like Colin, has insider information she should go to the police, not facebook.
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Post by sar 23.08.17 8:39

I can't think how this could be some kind of set-up against us.

respectfully, that's usually when it is.....
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Post by Guest 23.08.17 8:53

sar wrote:I can't think how this could be some kind of set-up against us.

respectfully, that's usually when it is.....
Yes I know the game - as in "look at that nutter.... they all nutters... don't waste your time listening to them".

Could be.
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Post by Guest 23.08.17 12:12

"I've been told that ministers will agree to the demands for more money. We shall see."  Sonia Poulton  [circa. August 2017]

It's this kind of statement that throws any possible credibility out of the window (excuse the inference);  the obvious need to be believed by way of name dropping - the McCanns frequently adopted this simple exercise but there comes a time when, without corroborative evidence, that such statements lose all impact.  As was seen by Colin Sutton's now infamous words.

"I've been told" ....  who told you?

"Ministers will agree to more money"  ....  what ministers? 

I thought this was a decision made by the Home Office, not a decision following parliamentary debate or a cognac and electronic cigar in the common room.  In the case of Madeleine McCann, I believe it to be a rubber stamp decision.

The author of those words is a self-professed freelance journalist and social commentator.  Journalists are seldom trustworthy - at least not until trust has been earned by a demonstration of commitment and personal integrity.  Neither of which I see here.  If you cast your mind back to the proposed documentary, still pending the green light, it is largely focused on 'internet trolling' and associated issues - indeed the documentary was said to be born out of the Brenda Leyland affair so what else can be expected?

Journalism = sensationalism and propaganda at it's finest.  Pay no heed..

Think I'll go down the local and catch up on the local gossip.
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Post by Jill Havern 23.08.17 17:06

The video seems to stop before she gets to Maddie.
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Post by Ray_Sneek 23.08.17 19:24

Allow me please to provide a translation:


Poulton: Still, what's £11m PLUS for one search if it means it can stall any potentially explosive media explorations into the story that cannot be aired while a live investigation is ongoing?

Translation:  My current excuse for not producing my documentary is that I just can’t put it out until Operation Grange is closed. And for the moment I’m sticking to that one. And by the way my media exploration is going to be potentially explosive – so eat your hearts out Richard Hall, HideHo, PeterMac, Jill Havern, Tony Bennett, sharonl, Pat Brown and co, ’cos all you have written so far is practically worthless compared with the ‘shocking’ revelations I first promised you on Christmas Eve 2014. It will be soooo worth waiting for that shock, I can tell you!  


Poulton: It's a drop in the ocean to all the people who are deeply invested in ensuring that only the theory of abduction is pursued.

Translation: Please just forget that I regularly appear on Murdoch’s SKY News, and have never publicly challenged the abduction theory, and forget that I set up Hutton to disgrace all the McCann doubters in Murdoch’s Sun with that “I am an anti-McCann bitch article”.  And please forget that when I was given a chance to discuss the Maddie case on David Icke's 'People's TV', I chose to interview Stephen D. Birch and Michael Shrimpton, giving them an unchallenged platform to air their views on the case..  


Poulton: To be clear: I'm not making any accusations against anyone but I am saying that this is a case that is most definitely not what it appears to be.

Translation: Ha! Ha! Keeping you all guessing! Keeping my options open there! And maybe I’m not who I appear to be either? Meanwhile I’ll just carry on joining with all those others like Ben Thompson, ‘Blacksmith’ and Hutton who refer to CMOMM as a ‘cesspit’, which should let you know exactly where I’m coming from.  Ta ta!

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Post by Keitei 23.08.17 19:49

Get'emGonçalo wrote:The video seems to stop before she gets to Maddie.

From Sonia's Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/sonia.poulton?hc_ref=ARQYlZr61311WFeXclT8D41PUgCKCZr3kE-ESEeI5GZWHv5bu5Yi-jgRlDsCKUwXGms&fref=nf

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EDIT: Just been informed that this has now been censored by You Tube so not available. It was only up for a couple of hours. The hosts are sending me the full interview on another platform so will post again. Thank you lovely people.
Freedom of Speech, eh? There are thousands of You Tube videos talking about the McCann case, they say the most outrageous stuff, my commentary is factual and yet it was removed. There are no coincidences with this case, I know the score and so do those who have studied it.
Thank you for your patience.

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Post by Guest 23.08.17 20:45

Ray_Sneek wrote:Allow me please to provide a translation:


Poulton: Still, what's £11m PLUS for one search if it means it can stall any potentially explosive media explorations into the story that cannot be aired while a live investigation is ongoing?

Translation:  My current excuse for not producing my documentary is that I just can’t put it out until Operation Grange is closed. And for the moment I’m sticking to that one. And by the way my media exploration is going to be potentially explosive – so eat your hearts out Richard Hall, HideHo, PeterMac, Jill Havern, Tony Bennett, sharonl, Pat Brown and co, ’cos all you have written so far is practically worthless compared with the ‘shocking’ revelations I first promised you on Christmas Eve 2014. It will be soooo worth waiting for that shock, I can tell you!  


Poulton: It's a drop in the ocean to all the people who are deeply invested in ensuring that only the theory of abduction is pursued.

Translation: Please just forget that I regularly appear on Murdoch’s SKY News, and have never publicly challenged the abduction theory, and forget that I set up Hutton to disgrace all the McCann doubters in Murdoch’s Sun with that “I am an anti-McCann bitch article”.  And please forget that when I was given a chance to discuss the Maddie case on David Icke's 'People's TV', I chose to interview Stephen D. Birch and Michael Shrimpton, giving them an unchallenged platform to air their views on the case..  


Poulton: To be clear: I'm not making any accusations against anyone but I am saying that this is a case that is most definitely not what it appears to be.

Translation: Ha! Ha! Keeping you all guessing! Keeping my options open there! And maybe I’m not who I appear to be either? Meanwhile I’ll just carry on joining with all those others like Ben Thompson, ‘Blacksmith’ and Hutton who refer to CMOMM as a ‘cesspit’, which should let you know exactly where I’m coming from.  Ta ta!
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Post by Guest 23.08.17 20:56

Keitei wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:The video seems to stop before she gets to Maddie.

From Sonia's Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/sonia.poulton?hc_ref=ARQYlZr61311WFeXclT8D41PUgCKCZr3kE-ESEeI5GZWHv5bu5Yi-jgRlDsCKUwXGms&fref=nf

Please share, thank you
EDIT: Just been informed that this has now been censored by You Tube so not available. It was only up for a couple of hours. The hosts are sending me the full interview on another platform so will post again. Thank you lovely people.
Freedom of Speech, eh? There are thousands of You Tube videos talking about the McCann case, they say the most outrageous stuff, my commentary is factual and yet it was removed. There are no coincidences with this case, I know the score and so do those who have studied it.
Thank you for your patience.
hysterical  Sorry to lower the tone of CMoMM but this individual really does invite ridicule.

I refuse point blank to sit through 100 minutes of me myself I, courtesy of this fraudulent self possessed poseur.  I endured the hysterical introduction which sounded as though it was being read straight from the wikipedia entry - or was it the journalists/activists (that's a new one on me) very own website spiel?

Still, it's good to know these people diligently follow CMoMM.  The system is working!
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Post by Nina 23.08.17 21:27

Verdi wrote:
Keitei wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:The video seems to stop before she gets to Maddie.

From Sonia's Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/sonia.poulton?hc_ref=ARQYlZr61311WFeXclT8D41PUgCKCZr3kE-ESEeI5GZWHv5bu5Yi-jgRlDsCKUwXGms&fref=nf

Please share, thank you
EDIT: Just been informed that this has now been censored by You Tube so not available. It was only up for a couple of hours. The hosts are sending me the full interview on another platform so will post again. Thank you lovely people.
Freedom of Speech, eh? There are thousands of You Tube videos talking about the McCann case, they say the most outrageous stuff, my commentary is factual and yet it was removed. There are no coincidences with this case, I know the score and so do those who have studied it.
Thank you for your patience.
hysterical  Sorry to lower the tone of CMoMM but this individual really does invite ridicule.

I refuse point blank to sit through 100 minutes of me myself I, courtesy of this fraudulent self possessed poseur.  I endured the hysterical introduction which sounded as though it was being read straight from the wikipedia entry - or was it the journalists/activists (that's a new one on me) very own website spiel?

Still, it's good to know these people diligently follow CMoMM.  The system is working!
SP begins to speak of the Madeleine McCann case from 9 minutes onwards. The video stops at about 40 minutes for some reason.

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Thanks flowers , I will make an exception and watch and listen later.
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Post by Keitei 23.08.17 21:36

Not looked at either of these but may be better copies, parts one and two.





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Post by MayMuse 23.08.17 22:52

SP talks about her Madeleine McCann film and sending it out to different "outlets" .... Did I miss the airing of such? Or is this fake news?

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It's an ongoing story - a work in progress..

http://www.theuntoldstoryofmadeleinemccann.com/

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OK, so I've endured 10 minutes of self aggrandizement.   All this information has been out there for almost a decade - why is she trying to take the credit.  She's found a soap-box and is exploiting it to the maximum degree through this interview.  As I've said before, many credible people and groups have meticulously researched and analyzed the case of Madeleine McCann, resulting in reams upon reams of valuable writing and scores of valuable videos - all out there to be read and viewed at no cost to anyone but themselves.  Where is the problem?  Why bother with the UK main stream media, the internet is more widely read in this age than the time-worn daily tabloid, or more widely watched than day time television.

She claims to have door-stopped members of the Tapas group and yet the cesspitarians, of whom she is one, are accusing CMoMM and others  of interfering with an active investigation by targeting specific individuals for research and ultimately prejudicing a fair trial, should the perpetrators ever appear before a court of law.  Isn't that precisely what Sonia Poulton is doing - only with menaces?  Is this an example of reverse psychology?

I'm astonished that anyone, particularly in the world of professional radio and television, can take Sonia Poulton seriously.  Maybe it's like other day time fill-ins, to titillate the bored housewife or other stay-at-home television addicts - a good attraction for ratings.  Don't the audience just love a loud mouth self-promoting unimportant entertainer to fill the empty hours.  Judging by the Led Zeppelin poster on the wall behind the over-animated presenter, I rather suspect this is an old contact from her days of being a groupie.

I really can't be bothered with the person anymore - at least not until the untold story is finally told - or should that be untold?  I can wait..
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Post by hogwash 24.08.17 19:03



Thanks for the video Keitei.

After I watched that I found this one ^^^^ from 2014 called 'Internet Trolls & Haters' and am reminded of her acquaintance with Ben Thompson who has got many Internet ID's that he's used to Troll & Hate, and then there's her acquaintance with Cristobell who has had a police warning and has posted on her blog that she was gathering IP addresses for journalists and who has featured in this newspaper: 

Sonia Poulton- Facebook post today Troll110

Also in the video Keitei posted where Sonia is criticising the McCann's facebook page for not allowing certain debate, she quickly mentions Ben's facebook page at the end of the interview as the go-to place to discuss. I've seen that group and a lot of comments heavily criticise the McCanns and can even be considered to be abusive. Isn't it hypocritical of her to do that?

Maybe I'm wrong but what if Sonia's mission is really to do with the government clamp-down on 'hate crimes/abusive comments'? Isn't it hypocrital of her to be making videos, and doing interviews against abusive comments whilst being associated with Thompson and Cristobell who has got a police warning for doing just that? You've only got to look at Thompsons twitter account to see how abusive he is, or read Cristobell's blog to see how abusive she can be.

And let's not forget that Poulton doorstepped David Payne, so why did she think it was ok to do that whilst moaning about what happened to Brenda on her website? Isn't that also hypocritical of her?

Plus she's got her own youtube channel so why can't she put her Untold Story on there? If Richard Hall can post his films on youtube then I don't see why she can't.
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Post by Verity 25.08.17 9:22

I agree with Hogwash and Verdi that Poulton should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Whilst everyone should of course be allowed the opportunity to get the truth out there, all Poulton has done so far in the way of talking about Madeleine is what's been on the internet already for a decade and taking the credit for it, whilst discrediting the years of hard work done on this forum as a 'cesspit'. By discrediting this forum she is discrediting the films of Rich Hall, the internet book of Peter Mac, the research of Tony Bennett, the videos of Lizzy HideHo and countless others, all of whom have worked their fingers to the bone to get the truth out there.

Her association with Rosalinda Hutton, Ben Thompson, Lee Ryan etc, and also her association with Murdoch's SKY news, who were responsible for hounding poor Brenda RIP leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. I'm sorry but I can't see how she can be associated with the likes of those people and expect to be taken seriously.

She claims to have news in her Untold Story but seems to have trouble airing it despite having the world-wide internet right at her fingertips, which can spread like wildfire. If she really wanted to get her Untold Story out there, she would have done it already.....thousands of other people have. Rich Hall used to be on TV until he was barred from discussing certain things, but that didn't stop him, he just set up his own company and made things happen and he's put many films out there about Madeleine that have been viewed by millions. Not to mention touring the country giving sell out lectures on the subject. You may not agree with everything he says, but he gives you info to go look things up for yourself. I don't see him telling you what to think, he always says things like "Did" or "Was" or "How" or "Could" followed by a question mark.....he gets you to think. He doesn't tell you the answer, he just lays out the info.

And if Sonia really had shocking news for us, which she's been sitting on for a few years now, why not just give it to the police instead? For goodness sake this is about the fate of a child, not some game of cloak and dagger.

I would love to be wrong about her, but all I see is a desperate, gobby social commentator/doorstepper/reporter trying to make a big name for herself whilst making excuses for not delivering the goods.

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Post by Guest 25.08.17 11:55

Amen to that - excellent start to the day Verity!

A very sleazy self-styled freelance journalist slash commentator slash activist slash foghorn who not only associates with some very unsavoury characters but also operates in a very avant-garde mode - and that is not intended to be complementary.  Pavement-stopping a leading politician, shoving a microphone in his face and accusing him of being a paedophile is most definitely not the way forward to tackling the global child abuse disease.

If you refer back to the tale of the untold story, link previously posted, the latest update (February 2016) claims a wealthy backer taking the tale across the oceans - to who knows where.  Doesn't seem to have progressed beyond Dover but we shall see.  Or shall we?

The fog goes in one end and comes out the other.  Having said that, I believe the original post was for information so perhaps one should leave the subject in it's own domain - where it belongs, never to be untold.  It's really not worth the air space is it.

On with the motley!

ETA:  https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t14451-anniversary-three-years-since-richard-hall-s-first-madeleine-film-a-celebration#372617
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