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Post by Mirage 01.04.17 23:30

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-relieved-portuguese-10141308

Madeleine McCann's parents relieved as Portuguese cop axes controversial new book on case


Goncalo Amaral, who made vile claims about Maddie's ­disappearance in his 2008 book The Truth of the Lie, was said to have been planning a follow-up

BYPATRICK HILL
22:31, 1 APR 2017UPDATED22:53, 1 APR 2017

Former detective Goncalo Amaral claimed the McCanns faked an abduction

The parents of Madeleine McCann have been told the policeman who made vile claims about her ­disappearance has shelved plans for a second book.

Goncalo Amaral, who led the hunt in the Algarve when Maddie vanished aged three a decade ago, was said to have been planning a new book on the case.


The Portuguese ex-detective’s 2008 book – The Truth of the Lie – claimed the McCanns faked an abduction. It was never released in the UK and sparked a legal battle between the former officer and Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry.

Amaral, 57, was planning a controversial follow-up but the Sunday Mirror can reveal the project has been axed.


His publisher and friend Manuel Fonseca – head of Guerra e Paz Editores, the firm which published Amaral’s first book – told us: “There is no book. It doesn’t exist, even as a draft. It may be he would like to work on a book some time, but for the moment that book doesn’t exist.”

A McCann source said: “It will be a huge relief for Kate and Gerry.”

Sources said the proposed book was to focus on Operation Grange, the £10million Metropolitan police probe into Madeleine’s disapperance. Amaral’s first book was published three days after Portuguese authorities closed the inquiry into Madeleine’s disappearance in 2008 and cleared Kate and Gerry of any wrongdoing.


The pair said Amaral’s book sparked a “massive tidal wave of lies” against them and last week they lost a third and final appeal to silence him in Portugal’s Supreme Court. They could now face a six-figure legal bill. Kate and Gerry, both 48, of Rothley, Leics, had sued Amaral over his book and he was ordered to pay them £360,000 in damages in 2015. .

Madeleine vanished from her parents’ Praia da Luz holiday flat on May 3, 2007.

This week a senior detective who carried out a three-year private probe revealed he believes an abductor will have confessed to a friend or relative. Retired Detective Inspector Dave Edgar said: “If anyone confided in you, now is the time to come forward.” He believes Maddie, who would now be 13, may still be alive.
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Post by Hobs 01.04.17 23:41

Let me guess, another fake story from the mccanns which would allow them to play the poor me victim card as well as bluster furiously about suing british publishers and then claiming when the non story is revealed that they are relieved and implying their threats to sue worked and they are just as "powerful as ever" even to having Dr. Amaral back down.

The other implication being that the Supreme Court was biased against them, possibly bribed by Dr. Amarals's supporters and that Portugal Police are thrid world, you know, what their fans have been claiming for years (except when the mccanns won round one in which case the Judiciary were praised to heaven and back)

It is all so predictable these days.

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"Madeleine McCann's parents relieved as Portuguese cop axes controversial new book on case"
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"and I relieved Russell" said Jane T, "oh, how we laughed!"

On the 'book' stuff...,

As 'gran' always 'said': "There are more ways than one, to skin a cat"
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Post by suzyjohnson 02.04.17 4:46

This article now also in the Sun

Both newspapers claiming that the McCanns were cleared in 2008 by the Portuguese investigation.

However the Sun has published the following comment from John Smith ........ 

'.......... You seem to be using "alternative facts" here. The McCanns were definitely NOT cleared by the Portuguese authorities (see the Portuguese Supreme Court ruling). And you have completely omitted the fact that the Portuguese appeal court and Supreme Court overturned the damages awarded to the McCanns in favour of Snr Amaral !  Are you just biased, or is this just simply shoddy reporting........ ?'   

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Post by skinner 02.04.17 9:33

Does anyone know if the Truth of the Lie will ever now be published in England.


Didn't the detective win the libel case against him and the Mcanns now owe him big time.



Come on publishers grow a pair, some one print this in English, remember Salman Rushdie.
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Post by Samcaddick 02.04.17 9:34

Ok. Im a little confused! 
 It seems lots of seasoned, in the know​ members had little knowledge that, if the report by the mirror is true?, 

That no second book exists, not even a draft!
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Post by Jill Havern 02.04.17 9:39

Or maybe the Mirror journalist is just trying to find out for certain, hoping Dr Amaral will 'bite' and issue a counter-statement so the McCanns can send him a pre-emptive Carter-Ruck  stfu 'warning' letter?

Justice works in silence. winkwink
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Post by Samcaddick 02.04.17 9:51

Well there was a lot said regards the lie detector​ petitions, that people jumping on the band wagon, not knowing​ facts, making forums like this look stupid, 
i myself, being a forum newbie was advised to walk before​ i could run,.   How stupid will the so called experts, with inside knowledge​ look now?   


And before anyone start with the im pro McCann c*#p, I'm far from it!
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Post by plebgate 02.04.17 9:59

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Or maybe the Mirror journalist is just trying to find out for certain, hoping Dr Amaral will 'bite' and issue a counter-statement so the McCanns can send him a pre-emptive Carter-Ruck  stfu 'warning' letter?

Justice works in silence. winkwink
Hope this is right.   He aint one to duck a fight we know that, but even the toughest fighter gets tired and it certainly has been a long, hard slog.

He has won.  yay.

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Post by Mirage 02.04.17 10:02

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Or maybe the Mirror journalist is just trying to find out for certain, hoping Dr Amaral will 'bite' and issue a counter-statement so the McCanns can send him a pre-emptive Carter-Ruck  stfu 'warning' letter?

Justice works in silence. winkwink
Exactly GEG . I think this article of 6th February 2017 knocks the whole issue into perspective.
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http://portugalresident.com/tabloid-scramble-cranks-up-pressure-on-%E2%80%9Csecond-maddie-book%E2%80%9D

Tabloid scramble cranks up pressure on "second Maddie book"
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No sooner had former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral seen his right to freedom of expression upheld by the Supreme Court than UK tabloids have been scrambling themselves into a froth of indignation about a “second Maddie book” in the wings, threatening to pile yet more agony on the pain caused by his first: “Maddie: The Truth of the Lie”.

The fact that Amaral revealed he was writing a second book almost a year ago appears to have passed unnoticed (click here).

Tabloids have been full of the “McCann warning” that lawyers employed by renowned legal firm Carter Ruck “will be watching” in case Amaral publishes anything about the mystery in UK.

While the Sunday Express claims Amaral is looking for a “new publisher”, the Daily Mail describes him as “jubilant” and “finishing off the final chapter of his newly-penned book while taking a break in Switzerland”.

The paper also claims that “Truth of the Lie” was “never translated into English for publication in the UK because it would have breached strict libel laws”.

These are all more than likely to be reports that need to be taken with large quantities of salt.

Carter Ruck’s lawyers may well be watching, but the reality is that the finding of the appeal court last year - and dismissal of the subsequent McCann appeal by the Supreme Court last month - means that “Madeleine: The Truth of the Lie” is not considered defamatory after painstaking and rigorous legal challenges.

Indeed the 76-page decision taken by Supreme Court judges shows just how thoroughly the McCann's various claims were studied, and why they were thrown-out as not being sufficient to see Amaral fined vast quantities of money.

What the flurry of stories is more likely to be about is the fact that no-one really knows what Amaral proposes to do next.

He has refused requests for interviews, he has neither confirmed nor denied whether he will be counter-suing the McCanns for damages (as he intimated last year that he would), and he has not revealed when his next book will be ready.

It is the kind of suspense that British media outlets do not enjoy.

Meantime, as Correio da Manhã headlines on how much the McCanns have made by “selling stories about their pain” to media outlets, bystanders have been predicting a new Madeleine sighting, or indeed sightings “any day now” and “as soon as the weather improves” a new visit to Portugal by officers working on Operation Grange - the Metropolitan Police investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance said to have cost the British taxpayer around €15 million and which has purportedly been working on a “last throw of the dice” for the last three months.

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Post by Rogue-a-Tory 02.04.17 11:47

So, has Kandohla & The Sun retracted it's 'Vile Amaral about to publish second sick book' scoop?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3217939/madeleine-mccann-parents-kate-gerry-cop-goncalo-amaral-second-book-10th-anniversary-disappearance/
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Post by jeanmonroe 02.04.17 11:56

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3235219/former-top-cop-who-spent-three-years-searching-for-madeleine-mccann-says-he-wants-to-come-back-on-board-hunt/

'I BELIEVE MADDIE IS ALIVE' Former top cop who spent three years searching for Madeleine McCann says he wants to ‘come back on board’ hunt

Ex detective Dave Edgar believes the three-year-old was snatched by a child-sex gang and insists her parents had nothing to do with her disappearance
By Tracey Kandohla

2nd April 2017, 9:10 am
Updated: 2nd April 2017, 10:15 am

A FORMER top cop who spent three years searching for Madeleine McCann has offered to “come back on board” the hunt if needed by her parents.

Retired Detective Dave Edgar, giving renewed hope to Kate and Gerry, said today: “They have no intention of ever giving up looking for their daughter. I believe Madeleine is still alive and the case can be solved. I would strongly consider coming back to help as a private investigator if required. In fact I would be happy to come back on board.”
Mr Edgar, 60, says the controversial £13 million Home Office funding given to Scotland Yard during their six-year investigation is “not nearly enough for a crime of this complexity and scale.” He added: “It sounds a lot but it’s not!”

When the Met Police finally shelves its inquiry, rumoured to be this autumn, and if Maddie is still missing her parents have vowed to continue paying for private eyes.

Mr Edgar believes the three-year-old was snatched by a child-sex gang and insists her parents had nothing to do with her disappearance.

He spoke to The Sun Online shortly before the body of a girl of six who vanished from her bedroom in eerie echoes of Maddie’s disappearance was discovered in America yesterday.

Maddie vanished from a holiday apartment in Portugal’s Praia da Luz during a night in May 2007 while her parents were dining in a nearby tapas bar with pals. Her horrified mum discovered her missing as she made a regular check on her left-alone daughter and younger twins.

Isabel Celis was last seen being put into bed in Tuscon, Arizona, in April 2012. When her dad went to check on her in the morning, he discovered she had gone. Police revealed this weekend that human remains found in a remote area that matched Isabelle’s DNA.

Ex GP Kate, 49, and heart doctor Gerry, 48, of Rothley, Leics, are clinging onto a glimmer of hope that Maddie – who would now be aged 13 – could still be alive. They are bracing themselves for the painful milestone 10th anniversary of her disappearance in just over a month.

Mr Edgar, speaking for the first time about the case since stepping down when the police inquiry codenamed Operation Grange took over in May 2011, said: “Someone knows what happened and it’s time they came forward.”

He thinks Maddie’s kidnapper or his accomplices will have secretly confessed to the appalling crime to a close friend or relative.
Echoing Kate’s previous plea to her daughter’s abductor, he urged: “If anyone confided in you, now is the time to come forward.”

But he doesn’t believe the lure of a reward will tempt anyone to tell, saying: “It’s not going to be solved by money. A fair amount was on offer in the past, and whoever is responsible for taking Madeleine or any of their friends are clearly not motivated by cash.

“These are the type of people who would sink their grandmother for money. But their conscience after all this time may be the key.”
Mr Edgar was hired by the McCanns as a private investigator in 2008 co-leading a small team and funded from the Maddie pot made up of public donations and celebrity handouts.

He told how it was much harder trying to crack the case as an investigator than a detective.

He said: “My hands were tied to a great extent and I could only do so much. I had no access to intelligence to do even simple checks and could never go outside the law. I can’t help Kate and Gerry now because Scotland Yard don’t want me trampling on their path. But when their operation is finally wound down and if I’m ever needed in my role as an investigator it would go back to square one. It would be a cold case and I couldn’t just pick up from where the police had left off.”

Mr Edgar revealed that the Yard, who he lost regular contact with 18 months ago, had "some very good lines of inquiry to follow."

The ex detective, who has had more than 30 years experience with Cheshire Police and the Royal Ulster Constabulary, added: “I firmly believe this case will be solved eventually - it is not beyond the realms of possibility.

“Every few months you hear of cases of missing people around the world that are solved. Children are taken as infants and years later are found alive.”
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Looks 'like' Dave 'I ONLY investigate what McCan'ts tell me to' Edgar, is after ANOTHER 'lick' of the McCan't £500,000 'investment' LOLLY!
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"Her horrified mum discovered her missing as she made a regular check on her left-alone daughter and younger twins."

"Oh, Tracey, Tracey, Tracey, 'PLEASE' STOP 'highlighting' the FACT, that 3 kids, all under 4 years of age were deliberately, consciously, LEFT ALONE, out of sight, while their 'respectable' parents enjoyed bottles of wine, with their 'friends', 'implored' a 'close pal' of the McCan'ts"
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Post by JulieC 02.04.17 11:57

I would imagine Snr Amaral would prefer to conclude his counter suit against TM before settling down to write another book?
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Post by jeanmonroe 02.04.17 12:22

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/someone-protecting-madeleine-mccann-kidnapper-10104793

"But he (DE) has kept in contact with the probe....."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3235219/former-top-cop-who-spent-three-years-searching-for-madeleine-mccann-says-he-wants-to-come-back-on-board-hunt/

"Mr Edgar revealed that the Yard, who he lost regular contact with 18 months ago...."
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'So WHICH vershion of events Oscar Dave, is troo'?

'contact.... or NO contact'?

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Post by jeanmonroe 02.04.17 12:27

Meantime, as Correio da Manhã headlines on how much the McCanns have made by “selling stories about their pain” to media outlets, bystanders have been predicting a new Madeleine sighting, or indeed sightings “any day now” and “as soon as the weather improves” a new visit to Portugal by officers working on Operation Grange............
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Mirage wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-relieved-portuguese-10141308

Madeleine McCann's parents relieved as Portuguese cop axes controversial new book on case


Goncalo Amaral, who made vile claims about Maddie's ­disappearance in his 2008 book The Truth of the Lie, was said to have been planning a follow-up

BYPATRICK HILL
22:31, 1 APR 2017UPDATED22:53, 1 APR 2017

Former detective Goncalo Amaral claimed the McCanns faked an abduction

The parents of Madeleine McCann have been told the policeman who made vile claims about her ­disappearance has shelved plans for a second book.
This is an April fools joke - surely!

Who told the McCanns of this revelation I ask myself - the intelligent tabloid?  Still a weekend wouldn't be a weekend if it wasn't for a blitz of McCanns sob stories, it's par for the course.

Dear Mr and Mrs McCann,

Time to back off and leave Dr Amaral alone to re-build the life that was so mercilessly destroyed by your vindictive campaign.  Get your blood hounds off the scent - ooops sorry, did I mention dogs?

Regards, a well wisher.
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Post by Jill Havern 02.04.17 13:07

plebgate wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:Or maybe the Mirror journalist is just trying to find out for certain, hoping Dr Amaral will 'bite' and issue a counter-statement so the McCanns can send him a pre-emptive Carter-Ruck  stfu 'warning' letter?

Justice works in silence. winkwink
Hope this is right.   He aint one to duck a fight we know that, but even the toughest fighter gets tired and it certainly has been a long, hard slog.

He has won.  yay.
Nah, he had a lay-in last Sunday til 7am...he's fine.
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jeanmonroe wrote:Meantime, as Correio da Manhã headlines on how much the McCanns have made by “selling stories about their pain” to media outlets, bystanders have been predicting a new Madeleine sighting, or indeed sightings “any day now” and “as soon as the weather improves” a new visit to Portugal by officers working on Operation Grange............
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Well, according to the header of the 'intelligent tabloid', it will be cloudy all day - they'll have to take a rain check, either that or a pac a mac.
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Verdi wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Meantime, as Correio da Manhã headlines on how much the McCanns have made by “selling stories about their pain” to media outlets, bystanders have been predicting a new Madeleine sighting, or indeed sightings “any day now” and “as soon as the weather improves” a new visit to Portugal by officers working on Operation Grange............
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Well, according to the header of the 'intelligent tabloid', it will be cloudy all day - they'll have to take a rain check, either that or a pac a mac.
Or take a peter mac - he'll be of more use.
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Post by suzyjohnson 02.04.17 13:16

''...... These are the type of people who would sink their grandmother for money. But their conscience after all this time may be the key ........”


Because they sink their grandmother for money, but years later have a conscience about it? 

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Verdi wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Meantime, as Correio da Manhã headlines on how much the McCanns have made by “selling stories about their pain” to media outlets, bystanders have been predicting a new Madeleine sighting, or indeed sightings “any day now” and “as soon as the weather improves” a new visit to Portugal by officers working on Operation Grange............
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Well, according to the header of the 'intelligent tabloid', it will be cloudy all day - they'll have to take a rain check, either that or a pac a mac.
Or take a peter mac - he'll be of more use.
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Post by suzyjohnson 02.04.17 13:18

You don't suppose Scotland Yard have asked Amaral to put a second book aside, for now, do you?

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Post by pennylane 02.04.17 13:21

suzyjohnson wrote:You don't suppose Scotland Yard have asked Amaral to put a second book aside, for now, do you?

Shouldn't think Goncalo Amaral would trust Scotland Yard as far as he could throw them.   nah
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Post by Jill Havern 02.04.17 13:47

pennylane wrote:
suzyjohnson wrote:You don't suppose Scotland Yard have asked Amaral to put a second book aside, for now, do you?

Shouldn't think Goncalo Amaral would trust Scotland Yard as far as he could throw them.   nah
Agreed.

Same goes for British journalists.
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Post by plebgate 02.04.17 16:07

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
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Get'emGonçalo wrote:Or maybe the Mirror journalist is just trying to find out for certain, hoping Dr Amaral will 'bite' and issue a counter-statement so the McCanns can send him a pre-emptive Carter-Ruck  stfu 'warning' letter?

Justice works in silence. winkwink
Hope this is right.   He aint one to duck a fight we know that, but even the toughest fighter gets tired and it certainly has been a long, hard slog.

He has won.  yay.
Nah, he had a lay-in last Sunday til 7am...he's fine.
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Post by coati mundi 02.04.17 21:44

Hi there, 
haven't posted in a while, but the credence given in some quarters to David Edgar is making me bilious. Can someone please remind us of the farcical details of his "investigation" and how much he was able to swindle, sorry be remunerated with, from the fund.

I hate to use one of Trump's favourite phrases, but there has been a recent outpouring of "fake news" on this sorry saga, the latest being the "no 2nd book" rubbish. A few days ago, we were being told that not only was there a second book on the way, but that the McCanns knew it full of "revolting lies", Make your mind up!

I don't yet know how to start a new thread, or whether I am allowed to, but I think a good topic for discussion would be on the lines of "Where now for the McCanns? Will the circus go on?"

All in my opinion, of course, and still hoping for the truth in this case.
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Post by Jill Havern 02.04.17 21:47

coati mundi wrote:Hi there, 
haven't posted in a while, but the credence given in some quarters to David Edgar is making me bilious. Can someone please remind us of the farcical details of his "investigation" and how much he was able to swindle, sorry be remunerated with, from the fund.

I hate to use one of Trump's favourite phrases, but there has been a recent outpouring of "fake news" on this sorry saga, the latest being the "no 2nd book" rubbish. A few days ago, we were being told that not only was there a second book on the way, but that the McCanns knew it full of "revolting lies", Make your mind up!

I don't yet know how to start a new thread, or whether I am allowed to, but I think a good topic for discussion would be on the lines of "Where now for the McCanns? Will the circus go on?"

All in my opinion, of course, and still hoping for the truth in this case.
Of course you can start a new thread - any member can!

Just go to the relevant forum and click on 'new topic'....and off you go!
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Post by Jill Havern 02.04.17 21:53

I've been told that GA and his publishers are waiting for their Court costs and expenses to be paid by the McCanns, since people forget, and the British press will not publish, that the McCanns LOST, not only against Dr Amaral, but also against the publisher and TV company.
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Post by coati mundi 02.04.17 22:07

Thanks GeG, I will start the thread when I get a minute and gather my thoughts,
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Post by sandancer 02.04.17 22:12

Get'emGonçalo wrote:I've been told that GA and his publishers are waiting for their Court costs and expenses to be paid by the McCanns, since people forget, and the British press will not publish, that the McCanns LOST, not only against Dr Amaral, but also against the publisher and TV company.


Does​ anyone know how long they have to pay these​ costs​ , which​ appears to be " forgotten​ " at the moment​ ?

Of course that will leave​ the Fund seriously depleted​ , more articles​ on the poor , devastated furious etc etc McCanns​ .

No cash left , oh dear​ what​ will Dave ( back on board ) do then ?

Maybe he'll have to wait​ for​ G.A bringing​ out​ his new book​ to get some​ ideas ?      spin

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