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Fund accounts 2016 - Late again!!!

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Fund accounts 2016 - Late again!!!

Post by sharonl on 02.01.17 20:32

The statutory accounts were due to be filed at Companies House on Dec 31st

They are late again. 

That means another penalty of £150 for Madeleines' diminishing fund (that is assuming that our corrupt government hasn't exempted the McCanns from these penalties that every other company has to pay)

I am assuming that since there has been no private investigation this year and there are no investigators to pay, the only transactions this year will be the royalties from Kates' book.

Of course, there will be the costs of the McCann v Amaral trial, but them they are private costs, aren't they?.

I am no psychic but I bet that we will see a resignation of the auditors again this year.

Will post up the accounts here when the are ready.

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Post by Doug D on 02.01.17 21:07

Probably not actually late.

As in previous years they have always been lodged at Companies House in the last week in December (as per the dated Companies House barcodes on the cover sheet) and it takes Companies House a week or so to actually process the vast amount of accounts that are similarly filed.

I doubt that this year will be any different.

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Post by sharonl on 02.01.17 21:49

Doug D wrote:Probably not actually late.

As in previous years they have always been lodged at Companies House in the last week in December (as per the dated Companies House barcodes on the cover sheet) and it takes Companies House a week or so to actually process the vast amount of accounts that are similarly filed.

I doubt that this year will be any different.


It usually shows up In red that the documents have been submitted but not yet processed. 

They may have been delivered very late on 31st Dec, in which case they should up as being received sometime tomorrow.


According to Companies House Beta the 2014 and 2015 accounts were filed on 15th January and 7th January respectively

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Post by Verdi on 02.01.17 23:48

sharonl wrote:
Doug D wrote:Probably not actually late.

As in previous years they have always been lodged at Companies House in the last week in December (as per the dated Companies House barcodes on the cover sheet) and it takes Companies House a week or so to actually process the vast amount of accounts that are similarly filed.

I doubt that this year will be any different.


It usually shows up In red that the documents have been submitted but not yet processed. 

They may have been delivered very late on 31st Dec, in which case they should up as being received sometime tomorrow.


According to Companies House Beta the 2014 and 2015 accounts were filed on 15th January and 7th January respectively
Typical - always a day late and a dollar short.  It will be interesting to see how many dollars short this year - especially campaign and merchandise costs. 

Somehow I don't think it will be of sufficient detail to warrant too much attention by Enid O'Dowd.

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Post by Doug D on 03.01.17 6:59


 
 


sharonl:
 
It usually shows up In red that the documents have been submitted but not yet processed. 
 
They may have been delivered very late on 31st Dec, in which case they should up as being received sometime tomorrow.
 
According to Companies House Beta the 2014 and 2015 accounts were filed on 15th January and 7th January respectively
 
Sorry but you’re wrong.
 
Companies House receive a huge amount of last minute submissions over the Christmas holiday period which don’t get processed, just dated and bar coded.
 
The processing team then work through them at their leisure, at which time a new date appears on the system, with a message about awaiting copying, they then get sent to the scanning team after which time they are available for everyone to see.
 
The 2014 accounts were submitted on 31st December and 2015 ones on the 23rd, thereby not incurring any ‘late’ penalties.

eta

Sorry copies not coming up. They were the front pages of the accounts showing the Companies House bar codes and dates.

They can be seen at 

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk

under company number 06248215

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Post by sharonl on 03.01.17 18:15

Sorry Doug - Companies House are showing the 2014 accounts being filed on 15 January.  Where are  you getting your dates from?   Also, where did you get the information that no penalty was applied?

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Post by Doug D on 03.01.17 19:21




Hopefully might have cracked it with screen grabs!

Front pages of the accounts show the Companies House barcodes and dates, showing they were received at Companies House in 'good' (only just) time.

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Post by sharonl on 03.01.17 19:50

thumbsup  Thanks Doug

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Post by Doug D on 05.01.17 15:37

On their way!


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Post by MayMuse on 05.01.17 15:56

Doug D wrote:


Hopefully might have cracked it with screen grabs!

Front pages of the accounts show the Companies House barcodes and dates, showing they were received at Companies House in 'good' (only just) time.
2014?

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Post by Doug D on 06.01.17 11:21

Blimey, that was quick for Companies House.
 
Accounts signed off 21/12/16 and lodged 22/12/16, so as usual, not late.
 
Funds dropped by £32k, with £490k cash put into something longer term as ‘Fixed Asset - investments’.

That’ll cause some speculation! (A fixed term bond would still be classed as ‘Current Asset’ not ‘Fixed Asset’)
 
As with last year no idea of income or expenditure figures.
 
For what is effectively a publically funded entity, this lack of ‘openness’ is a disgrace.

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Post by Doug D on 06.01.17 18:43

Hopefully getting to grips with posting screen grabs now.

Only bit of the three pages of accounts showing anything at all, but that's not much.


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Post by sharonl on 06.01.17 20:51

So all that's happened is that they have taken almost a half million from the bank and invested it.  But where have they invested it?  And what is the return on the investment?

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Post by sammyc on 06.01.17 21:24

sharonl wrote:So all that's happened is that they have taken almost a half million from the bank and invested it.  But where have they invested it?  And what is the return on the investment?
What did they say a while back about transferring  money from the official fund to another account to continue 'The Search' ? At least they have been honest for once clapping
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Post by Doug D on 06.01.17 21:42

A transfer to a Fixed Asset is not the place to put accessible funds that might be needed in the short term for 'the search'.

Pure speculation, but it's an odd amount, not dissimilar to property values in a certain road in Rothley.

We also have no idea of any income received (there must surely have been something), but anything that did come in has gone out again, plus £32k, although this includes creditors reduced by £6k.

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Post by sharonl on 06.01.17 22:06

sammyc wrote:
sharonl wrote:So all that's happened is that they have taken almost a half million from the bank and invested it.  But where have they invested it?  And what is the return on the investment?
What did they say a while back about transferring  money from the official fund to another account to continue 'The Search' ? At least they have been honest for once clapping

The money has been transferred from the official fund to investments unknown to us - are we going to see where these funds have been invested or how they will be used?  I doubt it.

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Post by MayMuse on 07.01.17 0:44

Mmm seems they are good at "transferring".
Is it possible  an "Amaral fund" ? 
Let see hope so.

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