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Post by espeland on 01.12.14 18:22

martinbrunt@skymartinbrunt  4m4 minutes ago  
#Madeleine Final legal arguments in the McCann £1m libel trial over ex-cop's book in Lisbon next week. Verdict expected in February.
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Well well. Same time as SY's next visit too. Presumably K&G won't be there.

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Post by aiyoyo on 01.12.14 18:26

Mr & Mrs 'pants on fire' definitely won't go if they don't have to.
I wonder whether SY is going to conclude its criminal investigation to coincide with civil case verdict date or just ahead of it?
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Post by sallypelt on 01.12.14 18:29

@espeland wrote:martinbrunt@skymartinbrunt  4m4 minutes ago  
#Madeleine Final legal arguments in the McCann £1m libel trial over ex-cop's book in Lisbon next week. Verdict expected in February.
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Well well. Same time as SY's next visit too. Presumably K&G won't be there.
It's too much of a coincidence that the libel  trial resumes next week, at the same time that SY is out there. What IS going on?
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Post by Liz Eagles on 01.12.14 18:38

Verdict expected in February!

I wonder who gave Martin (I doorstepped Brenda Leyland but now I'm ok) Brunt that information?
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Post by Guest on 01.12.14 18:45

Is it a libel trial?  I understood the McCann's were claiming damages because they allege Amaral's book hindered the search for MBM.  Could someone clarify this for me as I am unclear what this court case is about - it's been going on for such a long time.  Thanks.
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Post by NickE on 01.12.14 19:15


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Post by Tony Bennett on 01.12.14 19:23


Goodness!

The final date of this trial will be in the very week that DCI Redwood and his team are out there in Portugal building evidence that will lead to an arrest, charging someone and a conviction generating a series of front page headlines in the British press to continue to influence public perception.

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Post by margaret on 01.12.14 19:24


How co- incidental, the same time at SY are re interviewing people.

Any chance the Mccanns will be in Portugal for questioning the final legal arguments?
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Post by Guest on 01.12.14 19:29

Will the Mcs need to be there, or just the lawyers?
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Post by Guest on 01.12.14 19:30

@margaret wrote:

How co- incidental, the same time at SY are re interviewing people.

Any chance the Mccanns will be in Portugal for questioning the final legal arguments?
It's to save them making childcare arrangements twice margaret big grin
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Post by Liz Eagles on 01.12.14 19:30

@Tony Bennett wrote:

Goodness!

The final date of this trial will be in the very week that DCI Redwood and his team are out there in Portugal building evidence that will lead to an arrest, charging someone and a conviction generating a series of front page headlines in the British press to continue to influence public perception.

Knock me down with a feather
Oh, and in between, the Limited Company accounts are due for publication.

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Post by Carrry On Doctor on 01.12.14 19:32

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Post by NickE on 01.12.14 19:32

@Tony Bennett wrote:

Goodness!

The final date of this trial will be in the very week that DCI Redwood and his team are out there in Portugal building evidence that will lead to an arrest, charging someone and a conviction generating a series of front page headlines in the British press to continue to influence public perception.

Knock me down with a feather
Yes Tony, and in my opinion is witnesses like Hill, Batista and Murat not "dream witnesses" for the couple from Rothley.

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Post by Carrry On Doctor on 01.12.14 19:47

Interesting how this story broke.....I wonder if Martin Brunt is keen to right some wrongs ?

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Post by BlueBag on 01.12.14 20:23

@Tony Bennett wrote:

Goodness!

The final date of this trial will be in the very week that DCI Redwood and his team are out there in Portugal building evidence that will lead to an arrest, charging someone and a conviction generating a series of front page headlines in the British press to continue to influence public perception.

Knock me down with a feather
Nobody could have predicted this.

Oh hang on...
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Post by sharonl on 01.12.14 20:53

aquila wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:

Goodness!

The final date of this trial will be in the very week that DCI Redwood and his team are out there in Portugal building evidence that will lead to an arrest, charging someone and a conviction generating a series of front page headlines in the British press to continue to influence public perception.

Knock me down with a feather
Oh, and in between, the Limited Company accounts are due for publication.


That's Smethursts' department.  He signs the accounts off, he's important winkwink

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Post by jeanmonroe on 02.12.14 0:36

What 'arguments'?

The GA AND the 2 (TWO) broadcasters, TV1 and VCFilms, 'truth' OR the McS 'lie'?

NO 'arguments' there, i wouldn't have thought!
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Post by Bishop Brennan on 02.12.14 8:09

@BlueBag wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:

Goodness!

The final date of this trial will be in the very week that DCI Redwood and his team are out there in Portugal building evidence that will lead to an arrest, charging someone and a conviction generating a series of front page headlines in the British press to continue to influence public perception.

Knock me down with a feather
Nobody could have predicted this.

Oh hang on...

Keeping the whitewash option well and truly open and very much alive. The trial is the only area they don't seem to be able to influence, and so the tactic is to use diversion and misdirection just in case unhelpful news comes out from it. It's really just amazing that the MSM have not realised that every recent court date has coincided with an SY visit - with some visits (such as this one) being deliberately delayed simply to match them up.
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Post by aiyoyo on 02.12.14 9:11

Place a bet which of the two will dominate front page headline next week!

Re-interview vs libel case.

I bet on the re-interview.
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Post by PeterMac on 02.12.14 9:22

But the dogs didn't find anything,  they really didn't,  they were wrong '  they are notoriously unreliable   really, honestly  they were acting, they were playing to the camera


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Or Lucifer will bear thee quick to hell.
Oh soul, be changed into little water drops
And fall into the ocean, ne'er be found.
My God, my God, look not so fierce on me.
Adders and serpents, let me breathe awhile.
Ugly hell, gape not, come not, Lucifer!

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Post by PeterMac on 02.12.14 9:42

Unhelpful that the story about the re-interviewing of the suspects / witnesses concentrates on the question
DID YOU KILL MADELEINE

Not Abduct, Hide, kidnap, cause an accident, trip whilst you were carrying her, drop her into the sea by accident . . .
In other words OG KNOW she is dead.
And that the fund is a fraud

Al Capone ?

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Post by aiyoyo on 02.12.14 10:11

@PeterMac wrote:But the dogs didn't find anything,  they really didn't,  they were wrong '  they are notoriously unreliable   really, honestly  they were acting, they were playing to the camera

Gerry really wanted to believe that.  Moreover he wanted the whole world to believe him, so much so he took the initiative (after he was dismissed to get off the bench) to tell the Libel Triad Judge that the dogs were notoriously unreliable; and that the book contains "facts" that are untrue.

Priceless !  You got to wonder at Gerry's definition of "facts".

He opened his mouth only to insert his smelly foot into it; and unfortunately for him the Judge wasn't interested to hear his delusions.
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Post by aiyoyo on 02.12.14 10:28

@PeterMac wrote:Unhelpful that the story about the re-interviewing of the suspects / witnesses concentrates on the question
DID YOU KILL MADELEINE

Not Abduct, Hide, kidnap, cause an accident, trip whilst you were carrying her,  drop her into the sea by accident . . .
In other words OG KNOW she is dead.
And that the fund is a fraud

Al Capone ?

The new Prosecutor, Ines Sequeita, changed the 7 people originally planned to be interviewed as 'suspects' to be interview as 'witnesses', wisely playing things by the ears.  Either she did not believe SY has the required evidence to interview them under caution ('arguidos' by Portuguese law) or it's a clever move.

That begs the question what evidence-led basis caused the SY to ask for the 7 to be interviewed as "suspects" in the first place.  It would be interesting to see the names of those 7 of 'special interest' to SY.  Was Murat amongst one of those 7 suspects ermm witnesses?  

253 questions spread among 11 interviewees - average 23 questions each - not a lot, but more than suffice to ask
 'where were you at X date and X time' ?
'Did you kill Madeleine'?  
'Did you help in the disposal'?
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Post by Guest on 02.12.14 10:46

[quote="Ladyinred"]Is it a libel trial?  I understood the McCann's were claiming damages because they allege Amaral's book hindered the search for MBM.  Could someone clarify this for me as I am unclear what this court case is about - it's been going on for such a long time.  Thanks.[/quote]

LIR, you understand correctly
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Post by NickE on 02.12.14 12:03

Damages trial;Amaral Vs. McCann Lisbon 
Provisional date: Wednesday 10 December 2014 at 9h30am

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