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There's an awful lot of media management going on.
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The curious thing about the latest incident is this - if the McCanns are frightened of the things the twins might read, then it makes no sense whatsoever to keep on going on TV, taking actions against newspapers and the like, as it always causes additional people to look deeper into the case, read the PJ files and come to their own conclusions. It fans the flame as it were, and should there be a court case against any "vile troll" there is the additional problem of finding a suitable jury who are untainted by opinion. It also would give a defendant the opportunity to publicly voice serious questions and discrepancies in the case, again bringing forward more public opinion and discussion.
The press also, having collectively paid out quite a sum of money, AND being constantly criticised by the McCanns are no friends of theirs by now. As the payouts are peanuts in the bigger scheme of things, it will not be too much of a deterrent to them - if the press are willing to go through this criticism and litigation from time to time, I would suggest that news editors have an agenda of their own where this case is concerned, possibly exceeding mere sales of papers. I would wager that the press hold some information as to WHY the government are prepared to spend about £10,000,000 looking into one solitary incident when cuts are being made across the board in areas that are far more important than one missing person. There has to be a reason for this, it simply MUST tie into something involving persons more important than the McCanns who are very banal in any meaningful sense.
Even supporters of the McCanns must be somewhat curious as to the level of investment in this case, it simply is not normal or justified unless the bigger picture is political dynamite.
The press also, having collectively paid out quite a sum of money, AND being constantly criticised by the McCanns are no friends of theirs by now. As the payouts are peanuts in the bigger scheme of things, it will not be too much of a deterrent to them - if the press are willing to go through this criticism and litigation from time to time, I would suggest that news editors have an agenda of their own where this case is concerned, possibly exceeding mere sales of papers. I would wager that the press hold some information as to WHY the government are prepared to spend about £10,000,000 looking into one solitary incident when cuts are being made across the board in areas that are far more important than one missing person. There has to be a reason for this, it simply MUST tie into something involving persons more important than the McCanns who are very banal in any meaningful sense.
Even supporters of the McCanns must be somewhat curious as to the level of investment in this case, it simply is not normal or justified unless the bigger picture is political dynamite.
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I think what we're seeing here is just petty revenge for the failure of S&S book. It never even made it to serialisation in the Sun, since nobody is interested in the same old rubbish copy and pasted into a new package. No doubt Sky were hoping to capitalise on it as well, perhaps even spent money on it and were going to have special reports on it etc. If their only recourse to retaliation is attacking private individuals then they are up s##t creek in my opinion. I'm on a twitter a bit, I'd never even heard of sweepyface until this. She certainly isn't one of the most abusive 'antis'. I think she was picked either because Brunt was handed her details, or he went through a range of identities and hers was the easiest to match with a real person, or of allvthe identities they found she seemed the safest (ie no council estate, not likely to attack). Her lack of surprise at the camera could be because they were waiting outside her house and she had already seen them. I don't think it's a set up. It's just more gutter journalism.
Interestingly though, there was a report on it yesterday at about 5.30 on Sky news, and once again it came off badly for the McCanns. They didn't show footage of sweepyface, just described what happened and then went into the response to it on twitter. The repeated and had up on the screen 4 tweets, 3 of which calmy and politely questioned the McCann version of events, and suggested at the very least they were responsible for her death by leaving her alone. The last tweet just said people should mind their own business m I thought it was a very odd selection of tweets for a channel that is supposed to be pro McCann. They then went on to talk about freedom of speech and how there's a difference between voicing your opinion and being offensive! Very odd IMO.
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Sweepyface...
BlueBag wrote:She is a very real person.missbeetle wrote:She even has a Facebook page under the name Brenda Leyland - though how real that is, I don't know.
She looks OK actually, I hope she can tell the real story of what has been going on.
Mrs Leyland has some odd tastes in Facebook 'Likes' for a churchgoing 63 year old Leicester lady.
The Minhan ul Qaran Youth League, Stot Bollerne - Stop Testikal Kraeft (it's in Danish)...
...and the Honolulu Volvo Dealership (who have just won a trophy for patriotism).
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tigger wrote:Perhaps someone can find the original Brunt murder/Madeleine tweet.
It was copied on a topic here or it was a screenshot. Iirc around the first time SY went to Portugal, June 2013.
Found this:
twitpic.com/crdgq9 - #Brunt #McCann murder tweet was up there for at least half an hour (& 25 RTs) before deleted
5:42pm - 16 Jun 13
It's from:
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t7062p40-latest-on-sy-review-19-may-mail-on-sunday-maddie-uk-cleaners-are-suspects
candyfloss wrote:
Oh dear Martin Brunt has just tweeted this.......
martinbrunt@skymartinbrunt18m
#mccann Scot Yard says it has identified "more than a handful" of suspects for murder of Madeleine McCann in its review of Portuguese case
TOO LATE BRUNTY, SCREENSHOT SAVED, in case G&K want me to go to court and testify against you.
Oh dear, what a slip up?
Are the litigacious McCanns going to sue him?
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Very good post ....I do so agree with you.XTC wrote:As far as I'm aware tracking an individual IP address is virtually impossible unless authorised by the police.BlueBag wrote:TMH wrote:I read on Twitter that pros tracked her down a while ago and posted her details over the netBlueBag wrote:When Sky News' Martin Brunt tracked Mrs Leyland down to her house in the idyllic Leicestershire village of Burton Overy and confronted her....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2777145/Police-probe-trolls-sending-hate-messages-McCanns-Detectives-investigate-given-dossier-catalogues-remarks-including-death-threats.html
How did Brunt "track her down"?
I'm curious.
Nope.
"Brenda Leyland" and "Sweepyface" only comes up with todays news.
So what has been going on here?
Anyway we are further into this media pantomime of fake caring with the magnificent farce of media journalists ' confronting haters'
So Brunty has donned the mantle of Matt Albright and his erstwhile hero Roger Cook and now spends Sky News' expenses looking for haters.
If he has eyes in his head and and half a brain there are a lot worse things on t'internet such as beheadings ( very hateful ) grainy black and white US military pictures of ISIS ' barbarians' being blown to smithereens ( really hateful) and Teresa May staggering across the stage at the Tory Paty Conference in alligator shoes ( fake of course).
The mainstream media only has itself to blame as it's packed full of PR men and women who emote rather than report. If you try to elicit a response then by Jimminy you're going to get one.
Put simply for Brunty and his acolytes if you give it out expect to get some back. You all are not the fonts of wisdom and all truth and belive it or not a lot of people don't like you, trust you or believe you.
In this case no amount of chasing alleged haters around the streets and houses of the UK is going to save the S&S's book dying on its arse.
All the mainstream journalists should have done their homework a long long time ago and read the PJ Report and the AG's Final Summary.
All the legalities are there. There are no assumptions and the case could have ben kept open. It wasn't and the investigations since have gone round in circles attempting to chase ghostlike abductors. Nothing has been added that serves to get anyone nearer to finding Madeleine.
If Brunty and his mates think that we think that the media types care about finding Madeleine they are seriously mistaken.
Perhaps he ought to stay in more and read what's the internet.
There really is more to the world than just the mystery of a missing child.
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Another brilliant post .Bishop Brennan wrote:Brian Griffin wrote:Bingo!Lance De Boils wrote:My initial thought is that it's designed to instil fear in everyone who posts about the case - with the aim of people backing away from sites such as this.
And they're pissed off that the new book ploy didn't pan out, partly because it's crap and partly because there are people on sites like this willing to point out that it's crap. I suspect the 'anti' faction is growing and the 'pro' faction is starting to run out of ammo, so it's time for the nukes!
The book was shot down before it even managed to take off. I bet they weren't expecting that.
In my opinion.
I would also vote for this explanation. This is part of the coordinated attempt to shut down / discredit anyone who speaks against the McCanns. A high-profile, particularly nasty "troll" is paraded to the crowds so that the crowd will assume that ALL who speak against them are the same.
It is no coincidence that the following 3 things have happened simultaneously:
1. Release of the Summers book
2. High-profile outing of the "vicious troll"
3. Winning of the libel action against the Sunday Times
The Summers book was designed to be the public Closing Report - and as predicted it clears the McCanns, discredits the dogs and makes fun of the "haters". The Times have had to settle based on a technicality and are now being reported as "irresponsible" haters. And the "troll" is outed to publicly ridicule anyone who speaks against the McCanns. This particular woman was chosen specifically because she can be their pantomime villain in the red-tops.
It's important to remember the goal of the whitewash - it is to put on public record (official news media / books / SY) the complete innocence of the McCanns and replace the guilt suggested by the PJ with a new SY narrative: a shadowy (but never identified or caught) burglar(s) abducted and killed Maddie.
ALL activities during the End-Game are designed with this in mind. Scaring off other dissenters is a small bonus, but discrediting existing ones is the number one objective. It is likely to continue or even increase.
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Brenda posted about the McCanns on Facebook under her real name.
https://www.facebook.com/andrew.g.doe/posts/10153328825475510
She comes across as measured and reasoned.
I think SKY should provide examples of her "VILE" posts and not surround hers with ones that obviously are questionable.
https://www.facebook.com/andrew.g.doe/posts/10153328825475510
She comes across as measured and reasoned.
I think SKY should provide examples of her "VILE" posts and not surround hers with ones that obviously are questionable.
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But not forgetting...Bishop Brennan wrote:This is part of the coordinated attempt to shut down / discredit anyone who speaks against the McCanns. A high-profile, particularly nasty "troll" is paraded to the crowds so that the crowd will assume that ALL who speak against them are the same.
It is no coincidence that the following 3 things have happened simultaneously:
1. Release of the Summers book
2. High-profile outing of the "vicious troll"
3. Winning of the libel action against the Sunday Times
4. Recent David Cameron speech to the U.N. about cotrolliing 'extremists'
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5. McCanns and DCI Redwood featured on Crimewatch 30-year celebrations
AND
6. Theresa May speech to the Conservative Party conference last wek about 'controling haters who are not actually breaking the law'.
But on the other hand, views of Richard D. Hall's marathon 4.5-hour film 'The True Story of Madeleine McCann' surged yesterday, with over 94,000 views in total so far on YouTube and another 70,000 on his website www.madeleinedocumentary.com according to blip TV PLUS sales and views of his DVDs - the numbers of views are already headed towards the quarter of a million mark
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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".
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she also featured at the end of Petermacs post here:
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t8300p360-why-the-re-opening-signifies-the-beginning-of-the-end-thread-of-hope
She's unlikely to be anything but genuine in my opinion.
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t8300p360-why-the-re-opening-signifies-the-beginning-of-the-end-thread-of-hope
She's unlikely to be anything but genuine in my opinion.
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pauloptix wrote:she also featured at the end of Petermacs post here:
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t8300p360-why-the-re-opening-signifies-the-beginning-of-the-end-thread-of-hope
She's unlikely to be anything but genuine in my opinion.
I agree.
She's unlikely to be "vile" as well from what I've seen.
She should challenge them.
She's probably reading this.
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BBCNews online - just published
Kate and Gerry McCann criticise press after libel payout
Kate and Gerry McCann said the allegations were "grotesque and utterly false"
The parents of missing Madeleine McCann have said press regulation is still not working, after receiving £55,000 in libel damages from the Sunday Times.
The payout came over claims they had withheld details about their daughter's disappearance from the authorities.
Kate and Gerry McCann said the paper did not provide them with a proper opportunity to comment and chose not to publish key parts of their response.
The Sunday Times said it had agreed a settlement with Mr and Mrs McCann.
Continued failure
The McCanns said the allegations were "grotesque and utterly false", and in effect suggested they had deliberately hindered the search for their daughter Madeleine, who went missing in Portugal in 2007.
Last December the paper printed an apology which the McCanns said was on an inside page and inadequate.
After instructing lawyers to sue for damages they received the payout which will be donated to two charities for missing people and sick children.
Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Mr McCann said the story "should never have been published", saying his family had given the Sunday Times a statement to that effect when the allegations were first put to them.
"This damaged us, it damaged the reputation of the [Madeleine's Fund] fund and it quite potentially can damage the search for Madeleine," he added.
He said it showed the continued failure of the press - which Mr McCann said was causing damage to ordinary people on a "daily basis" - to act responsibly.
"It has been a significant period since the Leveson Inquiry finished and I don't see any change in culture," Mr McCann added.
'Industry poodle'
The allegations in the Sunday Times were made at a time when the paper was arguing there was no need for the independent regulation proposed by the Leveson Inquiry into press standards.
The McCanns described the new Independent Press Standards Organisation (Ipso), which started its work last month as the successor to the Press Complaints Commission, as the "latest industry poodle".
It is not the first time Mr and Mrs McCann have taken legal action against the press.
Kate and Gerry McCann gave evidence to the Leveson Inquiry in November 2011
In 2008, they accepted £550,000 libel damages and front-page apologies from Express Newspapers over allegations they were responsible for Madeleine's death.
The McCanns have been prominent in the Hacked Off group which campaigns for press accountability following the News of the World phone-hacking scandal.
Private diary
At the Leveson Inquiry, the McCanns were critical of their treatment by the press, saying they were left distraught by suggestions they were responsible for Madeleine's death.
Mr McCann told the inquiry many of the stories were untruthful, sinister or, he believed, made up.
Mrs McCann said seeing her private diary published in the News of the World made her feel "totally violated".
Lord Leveson's report recommended an independent, self-regulatory press watchdog backed by legislation.
The three main Westminster parties agreed a Royal Charter that established a panel to independently verify a new regulator, although Ipso has not sought recognition from this.
A rival independent self-regulator, Impress, has been set up by a group of high-profile campaigners with the aim of becoming compliant with Leveson's requirements.
Kate and Gerry McCann criticise press after libel payout
Kate and Gerry McCann said the allegations were "grotesque and utterly false"
The parents of missing Madeleine McCann have said press regulation is still not working, after receiving £55,000 in libel damages from the Sunday Times.
The payout came over claims they had withheld details about their daughter's disappearance from the authorities.
Kate and Gerry McCann said the paper did not provide them with a proper opportunity to comment and chose not to publish key parts of their response.
The Sunday Times said it had agreed a settlement with Mr and Mrs McCann.
End Quote Gerry McCann"It has been a significant period since the Leveson Inquiry finished and I don't see any change in culture.”
Continued failure
The McCanns said the allegations were "grotesque and utterly false", and in effect suggested they had deliberately hindered the search for their daughter Madeleine, who went missing in Portugal in 2007.
Last December the paper printed an apology which the McCanns said was on an inside page and inadequate.
After instructing lawyers to sue for damages they received the payout which will be donated to two charities for missing people and sick children.
Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Mr McCann said the story "should never have been published", saying his family had given the Sunday Times a statement to that effect when the allegations were first put to them.
"This damaged us, it damaged the reputation of the [Madeleine's Fund] fund and it quite potentially can damage the search for Madeleine," he added.
He said it showed the continued failure of the press - which Mr McCann said was causing damage to ordinary people on a "daily basis" - to act responsibly.
"It has been a significant period since the Leveson Inquiry finished and I don't see any change in culture," Mr McCann added.
'Industry poodle'
The allegations in the Sunday Times were made at a time when the paper was arguing there was no need for the independent regulation proposed by the Leveson Inquiry into press standards.
The McCanns described the new Independent Press Standards Organisation (Ipso), which started its work last month as the successor to the Press Complaints Commission, as the "latest industry poodle".
It is not the first time Mr and Mrs McCann have taken legal action against the press.
Kate and Gerry McCann gave evidence to the Leveson Inquiry in November 2011
In 2008, they accepted £550,000 libel damages and front-page apologies from Express Newspapers over allegations they were responsible for Madeleine's death.
The McCanns have been prominent in the Hacked Off group which campaigns for press accountability following the News of the World phone-hacking scandal.
Private diary
At the Leveson Inquiry, the McCanns were critical of their treatment by the press, saying they were left distraught by suggestions they were responsible for Madeleine's death.
Mr McCann told the inquiry many of the stories were untruthful, sinister or, he believed, made up.
Mrs McCann said seeing her private diary published in the News of the World made her feel "totally violated".
Lord Leveson's report recommended an independent, self-regulatory press watchdog backed by legislation.
The three main Westminster parties agreed a Royal Charter that established a panel to independently verify a new regulator, although Ipso has not sought recognition from this.
A rival independent self-regulator, Impress, has been set up by a group of high-profile campaigners with the aim of becoming compliant with Leveson's requirements.
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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".
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BlueBag wrote:There's an awful lot of media management going on.
Spinning as usual, by the usual suspects.Nothing new there.
Look on the bright side. The reason they were targeted has to be reported. The press / media has to rehash people still believe they have something to do with their daughter disappearance.
OG, as well as the public, is reminded there are activists prepared to use FOI act to seek info.
Something stinks to high heaven. Have no doubt at all this is a very organised and orchestrated effort colluded between several parties with vested interest to control doubters. They will call it trolls, haters, or whatever to dramatise it for impact.
Abusive tweets and messages on FB are wrong, but it's done by both sides with each side reciprocating the other side's behavior. To target one side and condone the other side is not objective at all, and seen as selfish narrowly focused self preservation effort to clam down on their skeptics.
Not looking good for them at all to draw this negative on them to the public attention because they themselves are reminding people why they are hated.
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This troll story is definitely staged by TM supporters IMO. I maintain that some of the troll FB & twitter accounts are trojan horses designed to garner opinion within the public domain that the McCann's are once more the victims. It's happening from so many angles to try and drive home that same message. All that's left is Kate to run a half-marathon donning the Mario Balotelli T shirt 'Why Always Me'.
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I would also vote for this explanation. This is part of the coordinated attempt to shut down / discredit anyone who speaks against the McCanns. A high-profile, particularly nasty "troll" is paraded to the crowds so that the crowd will assume that ALL who speak against them are the same.
It is no coincidence that the following 3 things have happened simultaneously:
1. Release of the Summers book
2. High-profile outing of the "vicious troll"
3. Winning of the libel action against the Sunday Times
The Summers book was designed to be the public Closing Report - and as predicted it clears the McCanns, discredits the dogs and makes fun of the "haters". The Times have had to settle based on a technicality and are now being reported as "irresponsible" haters. And the "troll" is outed to publicly ridicule anyone who speaks against the McCanns. This particular woman was chosen specifically because she can be their pantomime villain in the red-tops.
It's important to remember the goal of the whitewash - it is to put on public record (official news media / books / SY) the complete innocence of the McCanns and replace the guilt suggested by the PJ with a new SY narrative: a shadowy (but never identified or caught) burglar(s) abducted and killed Maddie.
ALL activities during the End-Game are designed with this in mind. Scaring off other dissenters is a small bonus, but discrediting existing ones is the number one objective. It is likely to continue or even increase. [/quote]
All the above spot on . may i add as i stated yesterday , it all is designed to also pre empt imminent news .as the excercise would be wasted . IMO the Libel trial .
It is no coincidence that the following 3 things have happened simultaneously:
1. Release of the Summers book
2. High-profile outing of the "vicious troll"
3. Winning of the libel action against the Sunday Times
The Summers book was designed to be the public Closing Report - and as predicted it clears the McCanns, discredits the dogs and makes fun of the "haters". The Times have had to settle based on a technicality and are now being reported as "irresponsible" haters. And the "troll" is outed to publicly ridicule anyone who speaks against the McCanns. This particular woman was chosen specifically because she can be their pantomime villain in the red-tops.
It's important to remember the goal of the whitewash - it is to put on public record (official news media / books / SY) the complete innocence of the McCanns and replace the guilt suggested by the PJ with a new SY narrative: a shadowy (but never identified or caught) burglar(s) abducted and killed Maddie.
ALL activities during the End-Game are designed with this in mind. Scaring off other dissenters is a small bonus, but discrediting existing ones is the number one objective. It is likely to continue or even increase. [/quote]
All the above spot on . may i add as i stated yesterday , it all is designed to also pre empt imminent news .as the excercise would be wasted . IMO the Libel trial .
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I don`t think this article shows the Mcs in a good light at all. In fact GM comes across as a reincarnation of a person with a little black moustache - who does he think he is.Tony Bennett wrote:BBCNews online - just published
Kate and Gerry McCann criticise press after libel payout
Kate and Gerry McCann said the allegations were "grotesque and utterly false"
The parents of missing Madeleine McCann have said press regulation is still not working, after receiving £55,000 in libel damages from the Sunday Times.
The payout came over claims they had withheld details about their daughter's disappearance from the authorities.
Kate and Gerry McCann said the paper did not provide them with a proper opportunity to comment and chose not to publish key parts of their response.
The Sunday Times said it had agreed a settlement with Mr and Mrs McCann.End Quote Gerry McCann"It has been a significant period since the Leveson Inquiry finished and I don't see any change in culture.”
Continued failure
The McCanns said the allegations were "grotesque and utterly false", and in effect suggested they had deliberately hindered the search for their daughter Madeleine, who went missing in Portugal in 2007.
Last December the paper printed an apology which the McCanns said was on an inside page and inadequate.
After instructing lawyers to sue for damages they received the payout which will be donated to two charities for missing people and sick children.
Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Mr McCann said the story "should never have been published", saying his family had given the Sunday Times a statement to that effect when the allegations were first put to them.
"This damaged us, it damaged the reputation of the [Madeleine's Fund] fund and it quite potentially can damage the search for Madeleine," he added.
He said it showed the continued failure of the press - which Mr McCann said was causing damage to ordinary people on a "daily basis" - to act responsibly.
"It has been a significant period since the Leveson Inquiry finished and I don't see any change in culture," Mr McCann added.
'Industry poodle'
The allegations in the Sunday Times were made at a time when the paper was arguing there was no need for the independent regulation proposed by the Leveson Inquiry into press standards.
The McCanns described the new Independent Press Standards Organisation (Ipso), which started its work last month as the successor to the Press Complaints Commission, as the "latest industry poodle".
It is not the first time Mr and Mrs McCann have taken legal action against the press.
Kate and Gerry McCann gave evidence to the Leveson Inquiry in November 2011
In 2008, they accepted £550,000 libel damages and front-page apologies from Express Newspapers over allegations they were responsible for Madeleine's death.
The McCanns have been prominent in the Hacked Off group which campaigns for press accountability following the News of the World phone-hacking scandal.
Private diary
At the Leveson Inquiry, the McCanns were critical of their treatment by the press, saying they were left distraught by suggestions they were responsible for Madeleine's death.
Mr McCann told the inquiry many of the stories were untruthful, sinister or, he believed, made up.
Mrs McCann said seeing her private diary published in the News of the World made her feel "totally violated".
Lord Leveson's report recommended an independent, self-regulatory press watchdog backed by legislation.
The three main Westminster parties agreed a Royal Charter that established a panel to independently verify a new regulator, although Ipso has not sought recognition from this.
A rival independent self-regulator, Impress, has been set up by a group of high-profile campaigners with the aim of becoming compliant with Leveson's requirements.
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Ladyinred wrote:Gerry talking to John Humphries on "Today" at the moment.
I heard him whinging on the radio a couple of hours ago, and actually swiped my radio off the desk in a fit of rage.
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Thetruth wrote:the Guardian has just closed comments on Mccann article following a perceptive and
reasonable question. "Ws this an out of court settlement" concerning Sunday Times
The article itself fails to dispel the feeling that there was indeed a trial.
There are two Guardian articles featuring the McCanns today, both have comments closed (they usually keep the comments open for a couple of days), and there seem to be more deleted comments than allowed ones. I always used to trust the Grauniad, but it's now become just as shallow and neutered as the rest of them.
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BlueBag wrote:I can't see how she could have been "tracked down" legally.
I KNOW people can be traced, but it's not easy and is illegal unless you're the Police or GCHQ.
A lot of the time its illegal or sailing close to the wind, but as i stated before ,once you put yourself online even with an allias you can be traced . as you have to give your proper details to the hosting site .
Thats all journos do these days if there is a murder , go on facebook for the profile pic . find there friends , knock on there doors . [ i did just that with the "Barrack Obarma " girl story this year ] allias sights always leave a paper trail , as don't forget there are many pro's on forums who are actually working for the other side if you get my drift .
She has probably inadvertantly or otherwise , gone on a forum with her allias [ giving her real name to the host site , or PM'd somebody with her surname etc and game over ] .
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Woofer wrote:
I don`t think this article shows the Mcs in a good light at all. In fact GM comes across as a reincarnation of a person with a little black moustache - who does he think he is.
Agreed. And lest we forget...what was the first thing the McCanns did upon discovering the disappearance of their child? They contacted the media. Then they courted the media. They invited the media to follow their every move in Portugal. They used the media to raise their profiles and to keep Madeleine in the news. They hired a spokesman.
I find it rather difficult to reconcile the McCanns now claiming that their privacy has been invaded and the press needs to be muzzled, when they did everything they could do use the media to their advantage 7 years ago, and continued to do so until it became evident that they were no longer the poor darlings of the press, and there were serious questions about their credibility.
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Great posts from all three, can't see anything other than you guys have described.Bishop Brennan wrote:Brian Griffin wrote:Bingo!Lance De Boils wrote:My initial thought is that it's designed to instil fear in everyone who posts about the case - with the aim of people backing away from sites such as this.
And they're pissed off that the new book ploy didn't pan out, partly because it's crap and partly because there are people on sites like this willing to point out that it's crap. I suspect the 'anti' faction is growing and the 'pro' faction is starting to run out of ammo, so it's time for the nukes!
The book was shot down before it even managed to take off. I bet they weren't expecting that.
In my opinion.
I would also vote for this explanation. This is part of the coordinated attempt to shut down / discredit anyone who speaks against the McCanns. A high-profile, particularly nasty "troll" is paraded to the crowds so that the crowd will assume that ALL who speak against them are the same.
It is no coincidence that the following 3 things have happened simultaneously:
1. Release of the Summers book
2. High-profile outing of the "vicious troll"
3. Winning of the libel action against the Sunday Times
The Summers book was designed to be the public Closing Report - and as predicted it clears the McCanns, discredits the dogs and makes fun of the "haters". The Times have had to settle based on a technicality and are now being reported as "irresponsible" haters. And the "troll" is outed to publicly ridicule anyone who speaks against the McCanns. This particular woman was chosen specifically because she can be their pantomime villain in the red-tops.
It's important to remember the goal of the whitewash - it is to put on public record (official news media / books / SY) the complete innocence of the McCanns and replace the guilt suggested by the PJ with a new SY narrative: a shadowy (but never identified or caught) burglar(s) abducted and killed Maddie.
ALL activities during the End-Game are designed with this in mind. Scaring off other dissenters is a small bonus, but discrediting existing ones is the number one objective. It is likely to continue or even increase.
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Charlie Chalpin? Or Baldrick performing a slug balancing trick? 'Kate, I have a cunning plan.....'Woofer wrote:I don`t think this article shows the Mcs in a good light at all. In fact GM comes across as a reincarnation of a person with a little black moustache - who does he think he is.
As Blackadder may well have telegrammed TM 'GERRY, PLEASE PLEASE STOP'
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The press needs to be muzzled now because it has long served its purpose. It must be muzzled because there is a real and present danger that the alternative and more likely version of events will ultimately arrive in MSM.canada12 wrote:Woofer wrote:
I don`t think this article shows the Mcs in a good light at all. In fact GM comes across as a reincarnation of a person with a little black moustache - who does he think he is.
Agreed. And lest we forget...what was the first thing the McCanns did upon discovering the disappearance of their child? They contacted the media. Then they courted the media. They invited the media to follow their every move in Portugal. They used the media to raise their profiles and to keep Madeleine in the news. They hired a spokesman.
I find it rather difficult to reconcile the McCanns now claiming that their privacy has been invaded and the press needs to be muzzled, when they did everything they could do use the media to their advantage 7 years ago, and continued to do so until it became evident that they were no longer the poor darlings of the press, and there were serious questions about their credibility.
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The press needs to be muzzled now in case the excrements hit the fan and all hell breaks loose for them.
Maybe they are pre-empting for the future, always possible.
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Brunt's behaviour rather ironic, considering that for a long period of time he ran what was essentially a MMcC discussion forum on his Life of Crime blog, featuring offensive commentary, mainly from a pro McC element. Strange he is now taking the moral high ground, considering he content encouraged on his forum by somewhat unbalanced sounding individuals. But who remembers the past when today is another day.
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Well, events recently have certainly pushed the 'Mc Canns' to the forefront of the agenda in many ways. But I dont feel that this is necessarily for the good of the Mc Canns, or with a view to exonerating them. I think this is all part of the 'last battle'. I am optimistic that closure of this case will not include exoneration of the Mc Canns. Looking at the big picture for the past year - why would that be a logical conclusion? I think there will be a portion of truth that wont be revealed but in the main the case will be closed wit a revelation of a substantial portion of the truth. Why would that not be the case?
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Brunt is a mere pawn to be moved as his director sees fit.
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Naz_Nomad wrote:Ladyinred wrote:Gerry talking to John Humphries on "Today" at the moment.
I heard him whinging on the radio a couple of hours ago, and actually swiped my radio off the desk in a fit of rage.
I sympathise.
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I think it is important to realise that whether it be a whitewash or truth is yet to be decided or confirmed.
We are surely witnessing the main players fighting. There is bound to be a fight between the various players within the establishment as to how this is to be concluded. Some have nothing to lose and some have everything to lose. This not about the Mc Cann couple.... Everyone wants this resolved and closed but each player has a different motivation and wants a different closure. That is the fight that we are witnessing - and everything is kicking off as a result. How this is to be closed is not yet decided. IMO
The general public still plays an important role - we still have to demand the truth.
We are surely witnessing the main players fighting. There is bound to be a fight between the various players within the establishment as to how this is to be concluded. Some have nothing to lose and some have everything to lose. This not about the Mc Cann couple.... Everyone wants this resolved and closed but each player has a different motivation and wants a different closure. That is the fight that we are witnessing - and everything is kicking off as a result. How this is to be closed is not yet decided. IMO
The general public still plays an important role - we still have to demand the truth.
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Haven't had time last few days to do anything but skim read, but I tend to agree with the thoughts that this could be to shut people up - stop them asking questions.
As someone asked - why this woman?
I also read that people asking "vexatious" FOI questions could be interviewed by the cops. WHAAAATT. Who determines whether a request is vexatious or not? Didn't we read a little while back that one of Tony's questions had been deemed potentially "vexatious". Who decided that?
We also had the removal of the DNA blog after a visit from men in suits. As the men in suits were not "named" I also wonder whether this could be part and parcel of an attempt to scare people and stop them asking questions.
I agree that some of the comments that have been made are quite vile and should not happen, but to say there is a possibility that people might be interviewed by the cops for what is deemed to be vexatious FOI requests is going a bit far I believe.
I wonder what colour ink the formal complaint was made in was it green, pink or typed? lol.
I liked the post earlier on that said that if Brunt approaches just respond with google gaspar statements, pity this woman hadn't done that.
I heard on the news earlier that Mr. & Mrs. are complaining that the press have not been curbed enough. Who are they?
Two professional people who went on a holiday with 3 children, came back with 2, loadsa cash been sent to them, loadsa money from newspapers or the threat of court action against them and still they are banging on about press regulation.
Loadsa, loadsa cash spent on looking for missing Maddie and still they are banging on about press regulation. Remind me again, who left their children alone on that holiday and having done so why did Mr. receive a standing ovation from some police officers?
Who are they exactly?
Come on Portugal get your asses in gear and get this libel trial over and done with and I hope that Rocky wins the day.
PAH.
As someone asked - why this woman?
I also read that people asking "vexatious" FOI questions could be interviewed by the cops. WHAAAATT. Who determines whether a request is vexatious or not? Didn't we read a little while back that one of Tony's questions had been deemed potentially "vexatious". Who decided that?
We also had the removal of the DNA blog after a visit from men in suits. As the men in suits were not "named" I also wonder whether this could be part and parcel of an attempt to scare people and stop them asking questions.
I agree that some of the comments that have been made are quite vile and should not happen, but to say there is a possibility that people might be interviewed by the cops for what is deemed to be vexatious FOI requests is going a bit far I believe.
I wonder what colour ink the formal complaint was made in was it green, pink or typed? lol.
I liked the post earlier on that said that if Brunt approaches just respond with google gaspar statements, pity this woman hadn't done that.
I heard on the news earlier that Mr. & Mrs. are complaining that the press have not been curbed enough. Who are they?
Two professional people who went on a holiday with 3 children, came back with 2, loadsa cash been sent to them, loadsa money from newspapers or the threat of court action against them and still they are banging on about press regulation.
Loadsa, loadsa cash spent on looking for missing Maddie and still they are banging on about press regulation. Remind me again, who left their children alone on that holiday and having done so why did Mr. receive a standing ovation from some police officers?
Who are they exactly?
Come on Portugal get your asses in gear and get this libel trial over and done with and I hope that Rocky wins the day.
PAH.
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