Re: Portuguese Geography

by Guest 03.06.15 19:40

lj wrote:
aquila wrote:

I do sincerely wish and hope that you would leave this forum and find somewhere else to place your madness.

There is no depth to which you will not sink.

I second that strongly

Yes.. enough.

by **sharonl** 03.06.15 21:40

J.Rob

Please remember the forum rules and the reason that we are all here.

Please, also stay on topic.

by j.rob 03.06.15 23:27

A little nerve touched with a few forum members who are no doubt passionate to see justice done for Madeleine McCann and indeed other children and vulnerable people who have been exploited and continue to be so, methinks!

But nice to be so wanted!

big grin

by Guest 03.06.15 23:39

You think wrongly on this one.

by j.rob 04.06.15 9:04

lj wrote:
aquila wrote:

I do sincerely wish and hope that you would leave this forum and find somewhere else to place your madness.

There is no depth to which you will not sink.

I second that strongly

I have merely provided links to forums where other people have researched on other cases of children going missing, for instance. One case is the Soham case. It would appear there are some quite serious questions hanging over the handling of that tragic case.

As there are over the handling of the McCann case.

I will agree that there are people who will sink to pretty low depths. Team McCann for instance. And other cases where there have been miscarriages of justice and the wrong people have been deliberately stitched up in order to 'save face' or prevent scandals.

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by missbeetle 18.06.15 22:18

Another photograph of the yellow-balloons-with-red-writing release :

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Ah yes... The fingerprints of Rupert - that's the Sun logo clearly visible on a balloon top centre.

PA Images caption this picture as the release of a thousand balloons.

I can't make out the telephone number, though - UK, Outer London...?

The green and yellow unsponsored balloons were in the total quantity of fifty -

- again, according to PA Images. No times given to the photographs.

by j.rob 18.06.15 23:14

missbeetle wrote:Another photograph of the yellow-balloons-with-red-writing release :

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Ah yes... The fingerprints of Rupert - that's the Sun logo clearly visible on a balloon top centre.

PA Images caption this picture as the release of a thousand balloons.

I can't make out the telephone number, though - UK, Outer London...?

The green and yellow unsponsored balloons were in the total quantity of fifty -

- again, according to PA Images. No times given to the photographs.

How ghastly...and look how thrilled Mr and Mrs Muck look.........

:puke:

A thousand balloons...and 50 green and yellow unsponsored?

Hmm...

by **tigger** 19.06.15 6:42

Great benefactor the Sun, also sponsors the Police Federation where on 13th July 2007 Gerry gave a speech to a ~~stunned~~ audience of police officers.

Standing ovation iirc.. Wonder who led that demonstration of support? What happens is that a few people in the front rows will stand up whilst applauding, resulting in the rest following suit.
I hope it's that because I can't be.ieve that the whole audience felt compelled to honor GM.

Those were the days eh?

by Muzz Lightyear 19.06.15 13:23

Getting back to Portugese geography, I am in Luz for the next fortnight is there anything I should be looking out for. I have already visited that damn obelisk and its hard work getting up there.

by lj 19.06.15 14:50

Muzz Lightyear wrote:Getting back to Portugese geography, I am in Luz for the next fortnight is there anything I should be looking out for. I have already visited that damn obelisk and its hard work getting up there.

Have fun, drink a glass for me, and if you can try to see how the public thinks, especially after the latest Mitchell?Bell Pottinger made up abduction.

by Doug D 19.06.15 15:35

As a not particularly fit person, based on:

‘I have already visited that damn obelisk and its hard work getting up there.’

might I suggest you try out the 8.5 mile (may have only been kms if you’re lucky) Oldfield run!!!!!!!!!

by Muzz Lightyear 19.06.15 16:31

I don't intend to run anywhere but I am likely to be having a beer or two.....probably.

by Guest 19.06.15 16:33

Muzz Lightyear wrote:I don't intend to run anywhere but I am likely to be having a beer or two.....probably.

You could try tennis, not so strenuous.

Are you taking any children?

by Muzz Lightyear 19.06.15 16:35

Ha , no children , the youngest in the party is 17.
I'll be able to update my avatar with another bottle of Sagres

by missbeetle 21.06.15 6:07

missbeetle wrote:
missbeetle wrote:The first mention of the Praia da Luz obelisk by Gerry is this one:

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(snipped from mccannfiles.com, with thanks)

This was from his first blog posting, on the 20th May 2007.

So it would have been on the 19th that they ran up the hill (109m high) to reach it at 07.19am.

I found a decent topographic map of Portugal and zeroed in on Praia da Luz :

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(snipped from multiplans.net, with thanks to Peter Robins)

The triangle with the dot inside is explained here :

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(snipped from Reading Tropical Maps by R.B. Bunnett, with thanks)

So it does seem that the Praia da Luz obelisk is a hefty trigonometrical station.

There's also one of the same magnitude - as well as at Cape St Vincent - up on the hills of Monchique :

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(snipped from oaksave.blogspot.com, with thanks)

This one's behind a fence as it seems there is a radar station up there - lots of phone masts etc.

So - as far as I can ascertain - the Praia da Luz obelisk is not a monument to anything -

- just a local landmark...

I find the map symbol used to denote geodesic marks/trig stations interesting :

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Similar symbolism to that of the All-Seeing Eye :
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...and not that far removed from the layout of Rothley Village centre -

- with its own War Memorial obelisk in the middle of the triangle :

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Another example of an All-Seeing Eye :

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(snipped from brunopress.com)

by missbeetle 25.08.15 1:41

This picture was taken during a Sandra Felgueiras interview with the McCanns

- to mark the third anniversary of Madeleine's Missingness :

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Any ideas as to what that monument over the water is?

by tinkier 25.08.15 11:04

missbeetle wrote:This picture was taken during a Sandra Felgueiras interview with the McCanns

- to mark the third anniversary of Madeleine's Missingness :

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Any ideas as to what that monument over the water is.

It looks very much like the…. Cristo Rei, Lisbon, Portugal – Overlooking the city of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], this statue was inspired by the Christ the Redeemer statue in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil after the Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon visited that monument. Built during the years 1959-1969.

by missbeetle 26.08.15 6:59

Thank you, Tinkier - it's mildly obelisky, isn't it?

I haven't been able to pin down an actual date for the interview -

(some great leg-crossing body language from Gerry - he's squirming)

- but their outfits were odd - both in black and white -

Mr & Mrs were decidedly matching. Sandra herself was in black.

Mr Gerald P. McCann in a white polo shirt tucked into pleated black business trousers,

and Mrs Kate with her strange helix gold dangly earrings being shown off :

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Some observations, anyhow.

by missbeetle 08.09.15 5:52

Another glimpse of the strange Casa Niobe pyramid -

- brought to you by Martin Brunt via Sky TV :

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by missbeetle 30.04.16 6:46

Check out this aerial photograph of St Andrew's Square, Edinburgh :

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Spooky, hey?

Then there's this one of Kate'n'Gerry'n'Cuddlecat out on the mean streets of Luz :

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Have a look over Kate's left shoulder (where the Devil dwells) -

purely coincidental, I'm sure...!

No idea what that white thing is on a stick in the background.

by missbeetle 01.05.16 2:22

Some more strange symbolism from the Sandra Felgueiras interview upthread :

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A double M - MM - in black and white.

by skyrocket 01.05.16 14:01

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - hi!

I do enjoy your quirky posts which appear completely out of the blue!

Seeing you like the pyramid - have you seen Frederico Carvalho's photos of it? Can't post them for you but they are here, courtesy of Pamalam:

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by missbeetle 01.05.16 22:06

Cheers, Skyrocket, and thank you for the link -

that Casa Niobe pyramid looks even creepier at night :

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Check out the roof line of the gables on the Rothley Towers garage :

(never mind the 'square and compasses' pattern on the wooden gate...!)

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Somewhat reminiscent of our old friends in Egypt, perhaps...? :

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by **Nina** 01.05.16 22:16

I was once lucky to have a gate like that but only to keep the dog in.

by missbeetle 01.05.16 22:55

It's a handsome gate there, Nina, indeed -

yet, to me (and gates are a large part of my daily life) -

it's a strange choice for a busy urban family with small children.

The clearance under it doesn't look like it'd contain a small dog

or a determined todder - plus it looks so climbable - and swingable...!

It's also not electric, I can imagine fiddling with the wretched gates to

drive in and out would drive Mr Dr Gerald P. McCann quite crackers...

I'd hate to think he toots his horn and waits for Kate to do the gates.

My thoughts only.

by plebgate 01.05.16 22:58

missbeetle wrote:Some more strange symbolism from the Sandra Felgueiras interview upthread :

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A double M - MM - in black and white.

I used to use my arms like that to get out of a chair but now I don't use my arms at all.

Keeps the thigh muscles strong - according to medical adivce.

by **Nina** 01.05.16 23:19

missbeetle wrote:It's a handsome gate there, Nina, indeed -

yet, to me (and gates are a large part of my daily life) -

it's a strange choice for a busy urban family with small children.

The clearance under it doesn't look like it'd contain a small dog

or a determined todder - plus it looks so climbable - and swingable...!

It's also not electric, I can imagine fiddling with the wretched gates to

drive in and out would drive Mr Dr Gerald P. McCann quite crackers...

I'd hate to think he toots his horn and waits for Kate to do the gates.

My thoughts only.

Maybe it was what was on offer on their estate. Agree with it not being secure though. soz

by plebgate 01.05.16 23:33

No LIR-I am quite good at it. It was in one of the health mags quite recently so have been doing it for several months. Keeps the back strong as well.

by plebgate 01.05.16 23:39

plebgate wrote:No LIR-I am quite good at it. It was in one of the health mags quite recently so have been doing it for several months. Keeps the back strong as well.

Where's LIRs post I rsponded to?

by Guest 01.05.16 23:40

I will give it a go, especially as it's good for the back.

I attended a health& safety course at work last year. The physio was passionate about backs and us taking care of them. I learnt a great deal about backs. One of the worst things for our backs is sitting down.