Re: LAST DAY OF LIBEL TRIAL 8th July 2014 DISCUSSION AND NEWS

by Brian Griffin 08.07.14 14:40

jeanmonroe wrote:ALL HEARSAY, HEARSAY, HEARSAY! I'M AFRAID!

Yup!

They should worry more about what the twins will find online when they are old enough to search the Internet!

by Guest 08.07.14 14:42

If the McCann's hadn't brought this case it would never have been on the radio in October in the first place. If it really was.
It would be interesting to find out which programme it was on and who said it because Sn Amaral has never said that and surely has a case against the radio station if true.

by Tangled Web 08.07.14 14:43

I see the Madeleine Foundation got a mention too for 'promoting Mr Amaral's theories and making things much worse'. roll

by Guest 08.07.14 14:44

Kay Burley has issued a correction!!

Kay Burley ‏@KayBurley [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
PA correction on Kate [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]: "Sean asked me in October 'Mr Amaral said you HID Madeleine'. substituting 'hid' for 'killed'!!

by **Tony Bennett** 08.07.14 14:44

candyfloss wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] martinbrunt @skymartinbrunt · [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
#[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Gerry McCann tells court Amaral "wrong" to write in book sniffer dogs detected blood and "smell of death" in family apartment.

So - wrong to quote Martin Grime?

Maybe Martin Grime was wrong to say what he did?

Ah yes! I remember now.

Pages 249-250 of 'madeleine' by Dr Kate McCann:

"False alerts can be attributable to the conscious or unconscious signals of the handler...this certainly seemed to me to be what was happening here...this was not what I would call an exact science..."

by HelenMeg 08.07.14 14:45

Popcorn wrote:
ShuBob wrote:Did Kate get the school bus driver sacked for listening to news on the radio while transporting kids?

Well you might expect after this troubling experience that Kate would have contacted the school, and the head teacher would then have spoken to the driver, and that perhaps a music-only channel might be substituted. I imagine the other kids on the bus must have had quite a reaction, too, when they heard this story about Sean's mum and dad. So I would hope we can expect at least two adults and a number of children to be able to back up this story that Sean wasn't able to share himself in the Lisbon courtroom.

They can make up as many statements and questions as they like and say they came from the mouths of Sean and Amelie. We can not know whether they are true or not and they know very well that noone can know that.
They have provided those 2 children with a childhood during which their parents have been pre-occupied with their quest for a fund and their mission to clear their names / find Madeleine - call it what you will.
I find them despicable, really. They are responsible in every way for the life they have created.

The worst thing is that GA was not responsible at all for ending up at court in this absurd farce. He simply tried to investigate the disappearance of a girl, as per his job, and ended up in this position. The Mc Canns have a lot to answer for.

by The....truth 08.07.14 14:45

Bonjour at last !

Our son took the school bus to high school, but all the kids at junior school, under 11 years old, never have a school bus. At least this is the case in Knutsford/Wilmslow. Parents take kids under 11 directly to the school.

Is it different in Rothley ??

jeanmonroe wrote:
ShuBob wrote:
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Kate [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]: Tells the portuguese libel case son Sean heard about Amaral's allegations on the radio while travelling on the school bus

How dramatic

Oh dear, that must mean all the OTHER kiddies, on the school bus, must have 'heard' the allegations too!

IMO, Sean has NEVER been anywhere NEAR a 'school bus'!

Somebody could have 'abducted/snatched' him, when he got off, couldn't they?

by Versailles 08.07.14 14:46

Woofer wrote:From Martin Brunt just now

The Judge has been questioning Mrs. McCann
Asked her when she first became aware of Mr. Amaral`s book - said she heard it was going to be published then read bits of it on the internet. Said it was hurtful that they were suffering from the abduction of the daughter then had this insult on top. Said Sean had asked them if they had hidden Maddie`s body in a freezer and then transported it in their hire car.

Martin Brunt said Mr. Amaral`s lawyer questioned Mrs. McCann and asked her about the support she had received, i.e. money and celebrities etc.

That`s all I can remember.

Why would a child of eight or so ask his parents a question like that?
Surely, he would find the scenario absurd!
A normal reaction would be the child being sad about what he has read (or heard) and after some time (or not at all, children tend to wanting to shield the ones they love) tell his parents what other people are saying about them.

by Brian Griffin 08.07.14 14:46

SixMillionQuid wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:
ShuBob wrote:
candyfloss wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Kay Burley @KayBurley · [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Kate [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]: Tells the portuguese libel case son Sean heard about Amaral's allegations on the radio while travelling on the school bus

How dramatic

Oh dear, that must mean all the OTHER kiddies, on the school bus, must have 'heard' the allegations too!

IMO, Sean has NEVER been anywhere NEAR a 'school bus'!

Somebody could have 'abducted/snatched' him, when he got off, couldn't they?
What UK radio station is going to broadcast this when the media is effectively on lockdown? And he isn't going to travel on a school bus until he's much older.

Tick VG. Got 'em - hoisted by their own petard.

by jeanmonroe 08.07.14 14:46

And presumeably, Amelie must have 'cocked a deaf 'un' when Sean heard it!

by MRNOODLES 08.07.14 14:46

Brian Griffin wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:ALL HEARSAY, HEARSAY, HEARSAY! I'M AFRAID!
Yup!

They should worry more about what the twins will find online when they are old enough to search the Internet!

All very convenient too. One twin asked in October. While last October the trial was going on. Mrs Cameron reckoned the twins' fellow pupils said such and such.

by Guest 08.07.14 14:47

martinbrunt @skymartinbrunt · [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] G McCann: ex-cop's book caused "anguish, despair and anger" with claims of proof, without any evidence, M is unequivocally dead."

by Markus 2 08.07.14 14:47

Brian Griffin wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:ALL HEARSAY, HEARSAY, HEARSAY! I'M AFRAID!
Yup!

They should worry more about what the twins will find online when they are old enough to search the Internet!

If they win this could they demand everything be removed from the web ,and no further discussion allowed.As there is so much out there a bit difficult, maybe.This is not good if they are pushing what the twins might feel is this their only line of defence.

by VeraWannabe 08.07.14 14:47

If the MC's aren't happy with the kids hearing excerpts from the Truth of the Lie, then give them the facts...give them the police files to read!

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by Guest 08.07.14 14:49

jeanmonroe wrote:And presumeably, Amelie must have 'cocked a deaf 'un' when Sean heard it!

Exactly!

It's Sean again.

It's always Sean.

Amelie got a namecheck before court when the McCanns said they were doing it for "Madeleine, Amelie and Sean" so she's worth mentioning for a quarter of a million but otherwise she only exists as one half of "the twins".

If feel so sorry for both Sean and Amelie. Whatever has or hasn't been said in their presence and whatever the outcome of the trial and Operation Grange, they can't have had a normal childhood. The last 7+ years, all the secrets and lies, will have left deep scars which might never heal.

by Hicks 08.07.14 14:49

Surely what ever is said by the twins to the parents is hearsay and cannot be used as evidence in this trial?

by Cristobell 08.07.14 14:49

MRNOODLES wrote:
Brian Griffin wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:ALL HEARSAY, HEARSAY, HEARSAY! I'M AFRAID!
Yup!

They should worry more about what the twins will find online when they are old enough to search the Internet!

All very convenient too. One twin asked in October. While last October the trial was going on. Mrs Cameron reckoned the twins' fellow pupils said such and such.

Do 9 year kids discuss libel trials and current affairs in the playground?

by HelenMeg 08.07.14 14:49

VeraWannabe wrote:If the MC's aren't happy with the kids hearing excerpts from the Truth of the Lie, then give them the facts...give them the police files to read!

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Hear Hear Vera Wannabe!!! that needs to be tweeted!

by sallypelt 08.07.14 14:50

sam ‏@boredone12 · 13 hrs
@KayBurley WOW!! That's a corker of a mistake Kay! Watch they don't sue you! #mccann

by MRNOODLES 08.07.14 14:50

VeraWannabe wrote:If the MC's aren't happy with the kids hearing excerpts from the Truth of the Lie, then give them the facts...give them the police files to read!

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But that's bollox... cos gerry said so

by HelenMeg 08.07.14 14:50

Cristobell wrote:
MRNOODLES wrote:
Brian Griffin wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:ALL HEARSAY, HEARSAY, HEARSAY! I'M AFRAID!
Yup!

They should worry more about what the twins will find online when they are old enough to search the Internet!

All very convenient too. One twin asked in October. While last October the trial was going on. Mrs Cameron reckoned the twins' fellow pupils said such and such.
Do 9 year kids discuss libel trials and current affairs in the playground?

NO1 my 10 year and friends plays tig / football. Doesn't have current affairs discussions.

by Joey Deacon 08.07.14 14:51

Thetruth wrote:

Is it different in Rothley ??

Everything seems to be different in Rothley.

by Brian Griffin 08.07.14 14:53

Cristobell wrote:
MRNOODLES wrote:
Brian Griffin wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:ALL HEARSAY, HEARSAY, HEARSAY! I'M AFRAID!
Yup!

They should worry more about what the twins will find online when they are old enough to search the Internet!

All very convenient too. One twin asked in October. While last October the trial was going on. Mrs Cameron reckoned the twins' fellow pupils said such and such.
Do 9 year kids discuss libel trials and current affairs in the playground?

Reminds me of a scene in 'About A Boy' when Hugh Grant is attending a single parents meeting to try and get a shag, and tells them his 2-year-old said 'You hang in there, dad' to the amazement of the others in the group, i.e. the ones who actually had children!

by sallypelt 08.07.14 14:53

HelenMeg wrote:
VeraWannabe wrote:If the MC's aren't happy with the kids hearing excerpts from the Truth of the Lie, then give them the facts...give them the police files to read!

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Hear Hear Vera Wannabe!!! that needs to be tweeted!

This needs to be put on Twitter, in reply to SafariSara, who seems to "know" everything that's in the official PJ files, and says disturbing things about Amaral, and how he wrote in his book, that nowhere in the official files does it say that Madeleine had died in the apartment.

by Versailles 08.07.14 14:55

Brian Griffin wrote:
Cristobell wrote:
MRNOODLES wrote:
Brian Griffin wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:ALL HEARSAY, HEARSAY, HEARSAY! I'M AFRAID!
Yup!

They should worry more about what the twins will find online when they are old enough to search the Internet!

All very convenient too. One twin asked in October. While last October the trial was going on. Mrs Cameron reckoned the twins' fellow pupils said such and such.
Do 9 year kids discuss libel trials and current affairs in the playground?
Reminds me of a scene in 'About A Boy' when Hugh Grant is attending a single parents meeting to try and get a shag, and tells them his 2-year-old said 'You hang in there, dad' to the amazement of the others in the group, i.e. the ones who actually had children!

And Angelina Jolie told reporters that her almost two year old daughter made her (Jolie) af full breakfast all by herself..
These slip ups happens if one has very little contact with children.

by Tangled Web 08.07.14 14:56

Brian Griffin wrote:
Cristobell wrote:
MRNOODLES wrote:
Brian Griffin wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:ALL HEARSAY, HEARSAY, HEARSAY! I'M AFRAID!
Yup!

They should worry more about what the twins will find online when they are old enough to search the Internet!

All very convenient too. One twin asked in October. While last October the trial was going on. Mrs Cameron reckoned the twins' fellow pupils said such and such.
Do 9 year kids discuss libel trials and current affairs in the playground?
Reminds me of a scene in 'About A Boy' when Hugh Grant is attending a single parents meeting to try and get a shag, and tells them his 2-year-old said 'You hang in there, dad' to the amazement of the others in the group, i.e. the ones who actually had children!

Thing is, wouldn't Sean have had to have said this at age four for the McCann's to justify starting legal proceedings against Amaral? Surely, anything said afterwards shouldn't come into it. It's surely about reasons they were suing him in the first place huh

by Rasputin 08.07.14 14:58

HelenMeg wrote:
Cristobell wrote:
MRNOODLES wrote:
Brian Griffin wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:ALL HEARSAY, HEARSAY, HEARSAY! I'M AFRAID!
Yup!

They should worry more about what the twins will find online when they are old enough to search the Internet!

All very convenient too. One twin asked in October. While last October the trial was going on. Mrs Cameron reckoned the twins' fellow pupils said such and such.
Do 9 year kids discuss libel trials and current affairs in the playground?
NO1 my 10 year and friends plays tig / football. Doesn't have current affairs discussions.

No Christobel , round here its loom bands and Minecraft !

by Guest 08.07.14 14:59

OMG LOOK!

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]martinbrunt @skymartinbrunt · [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Amaral refused permission to speak in trial. He and McCanns blocked at first, but McCanns appealed. He didn't, now too late.

by jeanmonroe 08.07.14 15:01

GA, IF he was 'pinickity' COULD SUE Sean, IF KM 'said' HE (Sean) said 'Mr A said you killed Madeleine'

Is that WHY KM, 'rapidly' corrected herself, and changed to he (Sean) said 'hid' not 'killed'?

(too late, it's 'out there')

Just for the record, GA has NEVER, EVER said the McCanns 'killed' Madeleine.

He truly 'believes' Madeleine died in their apartment 5A, albeit by 'accident'

And that her parents 'simulated' an 'abduction'

And 'hid' the body.

by Truthandjustice 08.07.14 15:01

The MCs entire case appears to be based on hearsay. All their mates told the court stuff that k and g told them. No facts at all whereas Amarals nook is entirely based on the facts of the files