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Post by Tony Bennett on 13.07.14 20:19

This story is by-lined to Tracey Kandohla, the woman from Rothley who told me in 2008 that "Clarence Mitchell has tea and cakes with me about once a week":

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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/388686/McCanns-face-five-year-wait-in-libel-trial

McCanns face five-year wait in libel trial


KATE and Gerry McCann’s battle to sue a disgraced ex-police chief for £1million in libel damages could drag on for another five years, a pal revealed yesterday.

By Tracey Kandohla/Published 13th July 2014

News of the setback came after the parents of missing Madeleine gave evidence against Goncalo Amaral in a Lisbon court.

Kate told the trial how smears by their tormentor left her family “devastated, fearful and desperate”.

But Mr Amaral, who led the bungled hunt for Maddie, now claims he is broke.

A judge is set to call him back to court in September to order him and the publishers of his 2008 book The Truth Of The Lie to ­reveal how much was made from the best-seller and a 2009 TV documentary.

A source close to Kate and Gerry said: “They are ­exasperated by this. Civil proceedings against Mr Amaral have already been going on for five years and at this rate are likely to go on for another five years.

He is pleading poverty and there will be further hearings held for him to disclose his bank statements.”

Even if Kate, 46, and Gerry, 45, of Rothley, Leics, win the case, they will probably not see any money until 2018 or 2019.

Their lawyer Isabel ­Duarte said: “It has been proved in the civil file that Mr Amaral earned around 380,000 euros in one year from the book.”

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Bound to say I did a 'double take' at the comment "He is pleading poverty".

The McCanns have:

1. Frozen his assets

2. Cut off his main source of income after 2008 by successfully banning his book, at least for a period

3. Embarked on costly libel proceedings which have forced him to use what little money he has to defend himself

4. Supported criminal proceedings brought by the murderess-of-her-own-child Leonor Cipriano by appointing (via Brian Kennedy and Metodo 3) the lying lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia

5. Probably triggered his divorce, causing him further expense, never mind the anguish.

Dr Kate McCann once said: "I want him to feel fear".

She and her husband have succeeded in making him experience poverty - and are now blaming him for 'pleading poverty'.

I am searching for the right word to describe this conduct

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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Guest on 13.07.14 20:28

Tony Bennett wrote:


I am searching for the right word to describe this conduct

I'm not Tony but if I use it then I will have to ban myself  big grin
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Post by Seek truth on 13.07.14 20:32

He is pleading poverty and there will be further hearings held for him to disclose his bank statements.”


Where did they get this information from, how do they know he is pleading poverty?
I didn't hear that.

Another thing, when Kate told the judge she thinks Sean heard it on the bus why didn't the judge ask her to clarify?
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Post by Casey5 on 13.07.14 20:35

Why not use the phrase Kate's familiar with Tony?
Fu.k.ng Tos..rs

  I think it's very apt.  big grin
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Post by sharonl on 13.07.14 20:36

@Tony Bennett wrote:This story is by-lined to Tracey Kandohla, the woman from Rothley who told me in 2008 that "Clarence Mitchell has tea and cakes with me about once a week":

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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/388686/McCanns-face-five-year-wait-in-libel-trial

McCanns face five-year wait in libel trial


KATE and Gerry McCann’s battle to sue a disgraced ex-police chief for £1million in libel damages could drag on for another five years, a pal revealed yesterday.

By Tracey Kandohla/Published 13th July 2014

News of the setback came after the parents of missing Madeleine gave evidence against Goncalo Amaral in a Lisbon court.

Kate told the trial how smears by their tormentor left her family “devastated, fearful and desperate”.

But Mr Amaral, who led the bungled hunt for Maddie, now claims he is broke.

A judge is set to call him back to court in September to order him and the publishers of his 2008 book The Truth Of The Lie to ­reveal how much was made from the best-seller and a 2009 TV documentary.

A source close to Kate and Gerry said: “They are ­exasperated by this. Civil proceedings against Mr Amaral have already been going on for five years and at this rate are likely to go on for another five years.

He is pleading poverty and there will be further hearings held for him to disclose his bank statements.”

Even if Kate, 46, and Gerry, 45, of Rothley, Leics, win the case, they will probably not see any money until 2018 or 2019.

Their lawyer Isabel ­Duarte said: “It has been proved in the civil file that Mr Amaral earned around 380,000 euros in one year from the book.”

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Bound to say I did a 'double take' at the comment "He is pleading poverty".

The McCanns have:

1. Frozen his assets

2. Cut off his main source of income after 2008 by successfully banning his book, at least for a period

3. Embarked on costly libel proceedings which have forced him to use what little money he has to defend himself

4. Supported criminal proceedings brought by the murderess-of-her-own-child Leonor Cipriano by appointing (via Brian Kennedy and Metodo 3) the lying lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia

5. Probably triggered his divorce, causing him further expense, never mind the anguish.

Dr Kate McCann once said: "I want him to feel fear".

She and her husband have succeeded in making him experience poverty - and are now blaming him for 'pleading poverty'.

I am searching for the right word to describe this conduct

There are a number of words that could be used, including avarice and greed but as for a more fitting word I don't know.

Here is a phrase that may help "money is the root of all EVIL"

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@Casey5 wrote:Why not use the phrase Kate's familiar with Tony?
Fu.k.ng Tos..rs

  I think it's very apt.  big grin
Sorry, Casey5, but we simply do not stoop to such gutter language on this forum.

We rise far above that

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Post by sharonl on 13.07.14 20:38

candyfloss wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:


I am searching for the right word to describe this conduct

I'm not Tony but if I use it then I will have to ban myself  big grin


Anagram?  big grin

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Post by Guest on 13.07.14 20:39

Châtelaine wrote:Abominable?


Lies, lies, and more lies.   What else have we come to expect. !

Absolutely abominable, beyond comprehension.   

I am about to scream !!           eek
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Post by Tony Bennett on 13.07.14 20:41

@sharonl wrote:
Here is a phrase that may help "money is the root of all EVIL"
The original quote is slightly different and came in Paul's first letter to his pupil Timothy, written about 52 AD:
  
"For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith..."

1 Timothy Chap 6  v 10

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Post by sharonl on 13.07.14 20:52

Thank you Tony

Going back to the article, I find it very telling of the main objectives of this trial against Snr Amaral

"Even if Kate, 46, and Gerry, 45, of Rothley, Leics, win the case, they will probably not see any money until 2018 or 2019"

If they did win, would it really matter that there were no funds available?  After all, this is all about clearing their names and getting the search for Madeleine back on track, isn't it? 

Why is there so little reference to the search, this article makes it sound like a get rich quick scheme. Surely not?

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Post by Woofer on 13.07.14 21:04

@Tony Bennett wrote:This story is by-lined to Tracey Kandohla, the woman from Rothley who told me in 2008 that "Clarence Mitchell has tea and cakes with me about once a week":

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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/388686/McCanns-face-five-year-wait-in-libel-trial

McCanns face five-year wait in libel trial


KATE and Gerry McCann’s battle to sue a disgraced ex-police chief for £1million in libel damages could drag on for another five years, a pal revealed yesterday.

By Tracey Kandohla/Published 13th July 2014

News of the setback came after the parents of missing Madeleine gave evidence against Goncalo Amaral in a Lisbon court.

Kate told the trial how smears by their tormentor left her family “devastated, fearful and desperate”.

But Mr Amaral, who led the bungled hunt for Maddie, now claims he is broke.

A judge is set to call him back to court in September to order him and the publishers of his 2008 book The Truth Of The Lie to ­reveal how much was made from the best-seller and a 2009 TV documentary.

A source close to Kate and Gerry said: “They are ­exasperated by this. Civil proceedings against Mr Amaral have already been going on for five years and at this rate are likely to go on for another five years.

He is pleading poverty and there will be further hearings held for him to disclose his bank statements.”

Even if Kate, 46, and Gerry, 45, of Rothley, Leics, win the case, they will probably not see any money until 2018 or 2019.

Their lawyer Isabel ­Duarte said: “It has been proved in the civil file that Mr Amaral earned around 380,000 euros in one year from the book.”

+++++++++++++++++

Bound to say I did a 'double take' at the comment "He is pleading poverty".

The McCanns have:

1. Frozen his assets

2. Cut off his main source of income after 2008 by successfully banning his book, at least for a period

3. Embarked on costly libel proceedings which have forced him to use what little money he has to defend himself

4. Supported criminal proceedings brought by the murderess-of-her-own-child Leonor Cipriano by appointing (via Brian Kennedy and Metodo 3) the lying lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia

5. Probably triggered his divorce, causing him further expense, never mind the anguish.

Dr Kate McCann once said: "I want him to feel fear".

She and her husband have succeeded in making him experience poverty - and are now blaming him for 'pleading poverty'.

I am searching for the right word to describe this conduct

Well they`ve made a pact haven`t they - question is, who with?
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Post by Woofer on 13.07.14 21:22

I would say you could be right BCB.

I would also say we are going through a phase of exposure of all those who have chosen that path, including those in power at the top.
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Post by Ashwarya on 13.07.14 21:45

What could possibly be behind this bizarre article?  Surely Dr Amaral's entire assets are all seized and waiting for them pending their glorious victory in the libel court.  What could delay the handover?

Do they think they are going to lose and are trying to explain to their fans why they haven't received their prize - it is all Amaral's fault?
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Post by tigger on 13.07.14 21:56

Errm, two points:

Our Traice(Kandohla) that fine journalist known for accurate and well-researched articles?

'A source close to the McCanns'- not a 'spokesman' but one of the extended family?

Doesn't KahnolaKandodola Kandhola live close to the McCanns?

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Post by SuspiciousMinds on 13.07.14 22:18

@Ashwarya wrote:What could possibly be behind this bizarre article?  Surely Dr Amaral's entire assets are all seized and waiting for them pending their glorious victory in the libel court.  What could delay the handover?

Do they think they are going to lose and are trying to explain to their fans why they haven't received their prize - it is all Amaral's fault?
If they lost, nobody would expect them to get a prize anyway.

I think it's more about managing expectations. Even if the Judge finds in their favour, there is no way they are going to get £1.2 million or anything like it. They will say that Amaral somehow managed to hide his ill-gotten gains and convinced the Judge he didn't have any money, and that is why she only awarded them 20p. How unfair and doesn't it prove what a wicked man he is, etc. etc. ad infinitum...
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Post by missmar1 on 13.07.14 22:29

@SuspiciousMinds wrote:
@Ashwarya wrote:What could possibly be behind this bizarre article?  Surely Dr Amaral's entire assets are all seized and waiting for them pending their glorious victory in the libel court.  What could delay the handover?

Do they think they are going to lose and are trying to explain to their fans why they haven't received their prize - it is all Amaral's fault?
If they lost, nobody would expect them to get a prize anyway.

I think it's more about managing expectations. Even if the Judge finds in their favour, there is no way they are going to get £1.2 million or anything like it. They will say that Amaral somehow managed to hide his ill-gotten gains and convinced the Judge he didn't have any money, and that is why she only awarded them 20p. How unfair and doesn't it prove what a wicked man he is, etc. etc. ad infinitum...

It is my opinion only that if the Mccann's should lose this trial they will still be the victims as far as the UK media is concerned ...unless the tide turns, imo, the recent support given to them by LK in her column is indicative of whats to come.....
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@missmar1 wrote:
@SuspiciousMinds wrote:
@Ashwarya wrote:What could possibly be behind this bizarre article?  Surely Dr Amaral's entire assets are all seized and waiting for them pending their glorious victory in the libel court.  What could delay the handover?

Do they think they are going to lose and are trying to explain to their fans why they haven't received their prize - it is all Amaral's fault?
If they lost, nobody would expect them to get a prize anyway.

I think it's more about managing expectations. Even if the Judge finds in their favour, there is no way they are going to get £1.2 million or anything like it. They will say that Amaral somehow managed to hide his ill-gotten gains and convinced the Judge he didn't have any money, and that is why she only awarded them 20p. How unfair and doesn't it prove what a wicked man he is, etc. etc. ad infinitum...

It is my opinion only that if the Mccann's should lose this trial they will still be the victims as far as the UK media is concerned ...unless the tide turns, imo, the recent support given to them by LK in her column is indicative of whats to come.....

It's not just your opinion, sadly! Whatever happens, it will be turned against the Portuguese somehow - it always is. Either the court system will be at fault (if they lose) or the Judge will be at fault (if they don't get enough money) or Amaral will be at fault (because everything is always his fault). And our media will lap it up. And still no-one will challenge them.


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Post by Guest on 13.07.14 23:23

@Tony Bennett wrote:She and her husband have succeeded in making him experience poverty - and are now blaming him for 'pleading poverty'.

Worded very well, sir.
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Post by missmar1 on 13.07.14 23:30

@SuspiciousMinds wrote:
@missmar1 wrote:
@SuspiciousMinds wrote:
@Ashwarya wrote:What could possibly be behind this bizarre article?  Surely Dr Amaral's entire assets are all seized and waiting for them pending their glorious victory in the libel court.  What could delay the handover?

Do they think they are going to lose and are trying to explain to their fans why they haven't received their prize - it is all Amaral's fault?
If they lost, nobody would expect them to get a prize anyway.

I think it's more about managing expectations. Even if the Judge finds in their favour, there is no way they are going to get £1.2 million or anything like it. They will say that Amaral somehow managed to hide his ill-gotten gains and convinced the Judge he didn't have any money, and that is why she only awarded them 20p. How unfair and doesn't it prove what a wicked man he is, etc. etc. ad infinitum...

It is my opinion only that if the Mccann's should lose this trial they will still be the victims as far as the UK media is concerned ...unless the tide turns, imo, the recent support given to them by LK in her column is indicative of whats to come.....

It's not just your opinion, sadly! Whatever happens, it will be turned against the Portuguese somehow - it always is. Either the court system will be at fault (if they lose) or the Judge will be at fault (if they don't get enough money) or Amaral will be at fault (because everything is always his fault). And our media will lap it up. And still no-one will challenge them.


aaaah


As you say  " no-one will challenge them"  

  Even when they stayed silent about their tappas friends refusing to go back for a re-con ?   no-one challenged them ?  

 When Kate Mccann claimed she KNEW her child had been abducted but couldn't say why at the time because of the judiciary secret act -  as far as I'm aware, no-one has SINCE challenged her to give her reason for stating that ? 

 They have gone unchallenged for the last 7 years - I have never known a case whereby the last people to see a missing child has had their word accepted without challenge .......all my opinion only.

Eta, I forgot to mention they now say it's " Our hypothesis "
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Would just like to ask if there is a poster who knows the legal system and could say whether the Mccann's lawyers Carter Ruck can stop others from stating what they they think happened to Madeleine Mccann now that her own mother has stated in court that the abduction is " Our hypothesis "   ?
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Post by Sparklehorse on 13.07.14 23:56

The article alleges that The family have been left devastated fearful and desperate. Desperate for money maybe but the picture the Daily Star has used doesn't exactly back up those claims. More like another fine example of Duper's Delight there.
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Post by Woofer on 14.07.14 0:08

@tigger wrote:Errm, two points:

Our Traice(Kandohla) that fine journalist known for accurate and well-researched articles?

'A source close to the McCanns'- not a 'spokesman' but one of the extended family?

Doesn't KahnolaKandodola Kandhola live close to the McCanns?
 
According to 192 she is 50-54 and has an address in Rothley and another in London SW11 (which is the Battersea/Clapham Junction area).

She only seems to write muck.
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Post by suzyjohnson on 14.07.14 1:22

@sharonl wrote:Thank you Tony

Going back to the article, I find it very telling of the main objectives of this trial against Snr Amaral

"Even if Kate, 46, and Gerry, 45, of Rothley, Leics, win the case, they will probably not see any money until 2018 or 2019"

If they did win, would it really matter that there were no funds available?  After all, this is all about clearing their names and getting the search for Madeleine back on track, isn't it? 

Why is there so little reference to the search, this article makes it sound like a get rich quick scheme. Surely not?

Yes sharonl I was just thinking the same thing

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