Re: Madeleine McCann search to enter 'substantial phase' of activity

by Justformaddie 22.05.14 12:46

And where does this all end up? Straight back to the mccanns again then, og should do what's right for maddie no matter what that is IMO. :please:

by **Tony Bennett** 22.05.14 12:48

sofieellis wrote:This bit makes me feel quite optimistic:

Met Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said the activity would be led by Portuguese police with the involvement of British officers.

@ sofieellis,

I think the true situation may well be this:

1. Operation Grange have demanded to do some high profile digs and searches which will lead to really good photo opportunities in the British press

2. The Portuguese have agreed very reluctantly to their request, but - just as they have made the British government (i.e. us, the taxpayers) pay for the use of their military Alouette III helicopter - they will now insist that the British pay all their bills (which they've said in the past, anyway)

3. The 'involvement' of British Officers will probably amount to no more than sitting around watching what the Portuguese officers do, maybe with a notebook and pencil in hand

4. The Portuguese get their bills paid and can demonstrate co-operation with the Brits - they are happy.

5. Grange gets its photos for the British press - they are happy.

Everybody is happy.

Except those who genuinely want to know what really happened to Madeleine McCann.

Mark Rowley is IMO spinning like mad and making it sound that British officers are far more 'involved' than they are

by stillsloppingout 22.05.14 12:49

Tony Bennett wrote:
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Mr Rowley echoed Kate McCann's calls for restraint in media coverage of the case, and said: "I want to be able to go back to Kate and Gerry at some stage in the future and tell them we've got to the bottom of this, or second best is to go back to them and say we've turned over every stone and we can't get to an answer sometimes."
IMO the words in red tell us precisely where the Met are heading with this series of very public performances.

There will be lots more pictures and photo opportunities.

But nothing at the end of it

More prof if needed that SY are NOT treating the McCann's [ sorry it's Gerry and Kate now ] as suspects.

by Markus 2 22.05.14 13:00

stillsloppingout wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
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Mr Rowley echoed Kate McCann's calls for restraint in media coverage of the case, and said: "I want to be able to go back to Kate and Gerry at some stage in the future and tell them we've got to the bottom of this, or second best is to go back to them and say we've turned over every stone and we can't get to an answer sometimes."
IMO the words in red tell us precisely where the Met are heading with this series of very public performances.

There will be lots more pictures and photo opportunities.

But nothing at the end of it
More prof if needed that SY are NOT treating the McCann's [ sorry it's Gerry and Kate now ] as suspects.

No they are treating them as equals, especially as the McCann's can request when they should start digging, because of Madeline's birthday All in the same club imo

by **Tony Bennett** 22.05.14 13:01

Andrew77R wrote:From the Press Gazzette.

British journalists have been urged not to "crowd out and hound down" officers investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann ahead of a "substantial upcoming phase of work in Portugal".
At an Operation Grange media briefing this morning at New Scotland Yard, attended by Press Gazette, assistant commissioner Mark Rowley also asked journalists to avoid "hyperbole" and to not publish "any information ahead of our actions".
Rowley told journalists they had been “very helpful to date”, before adding: “I think there’s a tendency sometimes on this case, because it has such interest, for hyperbole in some of the reporting and it’s not helpful if everything we do is reported as a breakthrough, significant development, or both... I think I want to keep expectations down.”
He added: “In terms of your reporting, it would be I think really helpful if whatever reporting you do over the next few weeks as the activity takes place, if you try and put it in that context.”
He said that the McCanns' statement earlier this month, in which they said they were "dismayed" by "media interference" in the police's work, “reflects our view”.
Rowley told journalists that the “media scrum” surrounding developments earlier this month were “disruptive” and created a “chaotic and dysfunctional” atmosphere.
Rowley's request that journalists should not publish information ahead of Operation Grange actions was described as a “big ask” by The Guardian’s crime editor, Sandra Laville.

[REST SNIPPED]

Oh really, Mark Rowley?

After you and the BBC spent £1 million-plus and over six months preparing for a BBC CrimeWatch 'McCann Special' programme heavily trailed and watched by 6.7 million people?

After the major hype over DCI Redwood's 'revelation moment'?

After telling the British media about the use of a military helicopter?

After telling the British media about 'digs' in several areas around Praia da Luz?

After notifying photographers about where your officers were having breakfast and when they were marching up to the PJ's offices?

You can fool all of the people some of the time.

You can fool some of the people all of the time.

But you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

by Mirage 22.05.14 13:08

Tony Bennett wrote:
Andrew77R wrote:From the Press Gazzette.

British journalists have been urged not to "crowd out and hound down" officers investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann ahead of a "substantial upcoming phase of work in Portugal".
At an Operation Grange media briefing this morning at New Scotland Yard, attended by Press Gazette, assistant commissioner Mark Rowley also asked journalists to avoid "hyperbole" and to not publish "any information ahead of our actions".
Rowley told journalists they had been “very helpful to date”, before adding: “I think there’s a tendency sometimes on this case, because it has such interest, for hyperbole in some of the reporting and it’s not helpful if everything we do is reported as a breakthrough, significant development, or both... I think I want to keep expectations down.”
He added: “In terms of your reporting, it would be I think really helpful if whatever reporting you do over the next few weeks as the activity takes place, if you try and put it in that context.”
He said that the McCanns' statement earlier this month, in which they said they were "dismayed" by "media interference" in the police's work, “reflects our view”.
Rowley told journalists that the “media scrum” surrounding developments earlier this month were “disruptive” and created a “chaotic and dysfunctional” atmosphere.
Rowley's request that journalists should not publish information ahead of Operation Grange actions was described as a “big ask” by The Guardian’s crime editor, Sandra Laville.

[REST SNIPPED]
Oh really, Mark Rowley?

After you and the BBC spent £1 million-plus and over six months preparing for a BBC CrimeWatch 'McCann Special' programme heavily trailed and watched by 6.7 million people?

After the major hype over DCI Redwood's 'revelation moment'?

After telling the British media about the use of a military helicopter?

After telling the British media about 'digs' in several areas around Praia da Luz?

After notifying photographers about where your officers were having breakfast and when they were marching up to the PJ's offices?

You can fool all of the people some of the time.

You can fool some of the people all of the time.

But you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

How did this country come to its knees like this? It's like living in North Korea. Once your national police force gets to this stage you've had it. You really have.

by Guest 22.05.14 13:11

Mirage wrote:
How did this country come to its knees like this? It's like living in North Korea. Once your national police force gets to this stage you've had it. You really have.

Given that we know so little about everyday life in North Korea, it could actually be worse!

by Tangled Web 22.05.14 13:23

Mirage wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
Andrew77R wrote:From the Press Gazzette.

British journalists have been urged not to "crowd out and hound down" officers investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann ahead of a "substantial upcoming phase of work in Portugal".
At an Operation Grange media briefing this morning at New Scotland Yard, attended by Press Gazette, assistant commissioner Mark Rowley also asked journalists to avoid "hyperbole" and to not publish "any information ahead of our actions".
Rowley told journalists they had been “very helpful to date”, before adding: “I think there’s a tendency sometimes on this case, because it has such interest, for hyperbole in some of the reporting and it’s not helpful if everything we do is reported as a breakthrough, significant development, or both... I think I want to keep expectations down.”
He added: “In terms of your reporting, it would be I think really helpful if whatever reporting you do over the next few weeks as the activity takes place, if you try and put it in that context.”
He said that the McCanns' statement earlier this month, in which they said they were "dismayed" by "media interference" in the police's work, “reflects our view”.
Rowley told journalists that the “media scrum” surrounding developments earlier this month were “disruptive” and created a “chaotic and dysfunctional” atmosphere.
Rowley's request that journalists should not publish information ahead of Operation Grange actions was described as a “big ask” by The Guardian’s crime editor, Sandra Laville.

[REST SNIPPED]
Oh really, Mark Rowley?

After you and the BBC spent £1 million-plus and over six months preparing for a BBC CrimeWatch 'McCann Special' programme heavily trailed and watched by 6.7 million people?

After the major hype over DCI Redwood's 'revelation moment'?

After telling the British media about the use of a military helicopter?

After telling the British media about 'digs' in several areas around Praia da Luz?

After notifying photographers about where your officers were having breakfast and when they were marching up to the PJ's offices?

You can fool all of the people some of the time.

You can fool some of the people all of the time.

But you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
How did this country come to its knees like this? It's like living in North Korea. Once your national police force gets to this stage you've had it. You really have.

Think I may have to emigrate for the sake of my kids.

by tasprin 22.05.14 13:25

20 May. Kate McCann at House of Lords for launch of Child Rescue Alert (official paragon of virtue)

21 May. Theresa may lectures police on corruption (perhaps just one more before you reform)

22 May. Scotland Yard nearing end of investigation. (second best - we can't get to an answer)

by Bishop Brennan 22.05.14 13:26

Tony Bennett wrote:
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Mr Rowley echoed Kate McCann's calls for restraint in media coverage of the case, and said: "I want to be able to go back to Kate and Gerry at some stage in the future and tell them we've got to the bottom of this, or second best is to go back to them and say we've turned over every stone and we can't get to an answer sometimes."
IMO the words in red tell us precisely where the Met are heading with this series of very public performances.

There will be lots more pictures and photo opportunities.

But nothing at the end of it

Seems like they have been told (as many had thought) to wrap up this expensive mistake. It's been clear for a while now that they have nothing and no leads. So a final high-profile bit of digging and onsite work and it's all over. Sorry McCanns we did our best - we know she's dead but we can't find who did it. As has been the case since the very start it's the PJ or nothing.

by **Tony Bennett** 22.05.14 13:31

Mirage wrote:
How did this country come to its knees like this? It's like living in North Korea. Once your national police force gets to this stage you've had it. You really have.

Agreed.

Indeed the signs were clearly there when, 4 years ago, the Sunday Times published an article explaining how the Metropolitan Police had given up on trying to 'nail' arguably Britain's top drug dealer and criminal gangster, Dave Hunt. He was 'too powerful'. Later reports, mainly by journalist Michael Gillard and colleagues, but also by Tom Worden on the Independent (see thread on this fourm), highlighted that Hunt was being systematically protected from prosecution, and given other assistance, by a number of very senior Met officers. I heard on the grapevine last week that Gillard has had to flee the country because of repeated and credible threats against his life.

Step by step, organised crime of one sort or another is gaining a tighter and tighter grip on this country, whatever the bogus police statistics may tell us.

If we're not careful, we'll end up in a Mexican situation, with powerful drug barons routinely killing any police or law enforcement officer who get in their way.

Four centuries ago, when the Bible was respected, Englishmen were known the world over for their love of the truth and being truthful: 'An Englishman's word is his bond'.

Not any more

by tiny 22.05.14 13:34

"I want to be able to go back to Kate and Gerry at some stage in the future and tell them we've got to the bottom of this, or second best is to go back to them and say we've turned over every stone and we can't get to an answer sometimes."

ffs I want you to go back to the McCann and tell them you want them to do the reconstruction. MADELEINE MUST COME FIRST. Sod kate and Gerry.

by Riddlemeree 22.05.14 13:39

Hello - long time lurker here - my thought is what if : the police KNOW ... Because let's face it ... There are plenty of pointers...but they need a caste iron case because the core suspects are lawyered up to the eyebrows. How would they play it ? Especially since they know what suspects are capable of. What if they needed core suspects to not know they were in the spotlight - but every so often they wanted to give them a poke, a frisson of fear ... Might they play the most incredible media game - putting Holmes like clues into their press releases which will later jump out as "we knew all along " pointers while deluging the media with distractions . The suspects will be on a roller coaster of wondering whether they have finally been fingered or whether the police are still on side chasing up all sorts of red herrings . It may turn out. The police have played a blinder ... All IMHO.

by Guest 22.05.14 13:39

Tony Bennett wrote:
Mirage wrote:
How did this country come to its knees like this? It's like living in North Korea. Once your national police force gets to this stage you've had it. You really have.
Agreed.

Indeed the signs were clearly there when, 4 years ago, the Sunday Times published an article explaining how the Metropolitan Police had given up on trying to 'nail' arguably Britain's top drug dealer and criminal gangster, Dave Hunt. He was 'too powerful'. Later reports, mainly by journalist Michael Gillard and colleagues, but also by Tom Worden on the Independent (see thread on this fourm), highlighted that Hunt was being systematically protected from prosecution, and given other assistance, by a number of very senior Met officers. I heard on the grapevine last week that Gillard has had to flee the country because of repeated and credible threats against his life.

Step by step, organised crime of one sort or another is gaining a tighter and tighter grip on this country, whatever the bogus police statistics may tell us.

If we're not careful, we'll end up in a Mexican situation, with powerful drug barons routinely killing any police or law enforcement officer who get in their way.

Four centuries ago, when the Bible was respected, Englishmen were known the world over for their love of the truth and being truthful: 'An Englishman's word is his bond'.

Not any more

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by Google.Gaspar.Statements 22.05.14 13:42

Bishop Brennan

Seems like they have been told (as many had thought) to wrap up this expensive mistake. It's been clear for a while now that they have nothing and no leads. So a final high-profile bit of digging and onsite work and it's all over. Sorry McCanns we did our best - we know she's dead but we can't find who did it. As has been the case since the very start it's the PJ or nothing.

UNQUOTE

Nah, they won't say she's dead, cos that would mean the end of the fraudulent fund.

Kate and Gerry are set for life now thanks to three-year-old Maddie's inability to fend off the evil bogeyman.

Movies and books here we come.

by tiny 22.05.14 13:42

"The activity in Portugal is led by the Portuguese, that's absolutely crystal clear in law," Mr Rowley said.

thank fkcu for that, just hope they don't crumble like the last time when they shelved the investigation through uk influence or interference

by **Tony Bennett** 22.05.14 13:44

I've just seen the BBC's news report on Mark Rowley's press conference and statement.

They are putting 'Smithman' at the very heart of their news story, thus:

Madeleine McCann search to enter 'substantial phase' of activity

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Thursday 3 May 2007: Timeline
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20:30 Kate and Gerry McCann leave their apartment to have dinner at a Tapas bar
21:05 Gerry McCann checks on Madeleine and her siblings
22:00 A man is seen carrying a child wearing pyjamas heading towards the ocean
22:00 Kate McCann raises the alarm that Madeleine has gone missing

Yet, never mind all the many other doubts about the validity of the Smiths' claimed sighting, DCI Redwood on CrimeWatch on 14 October 2013 very deliberately led the viewing public to believe that members of this 'Irish family' were capable of producing two e-fits (both of different men, so it seems), despite the fact that all the three Smiths who gave statements to the PJ said they didn't see his face properly because it was dark, his face was hidden, we only saw him for a second or two, etc. etc.

How is it that some, even on this forum, can swallow such balderdash - hook, line and sinker?

by Dutchgirl 22.05.14 13:48

Poe wrote:Nothing from Sky or Brunty yet.

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Police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann will enter a "substantial phase of operational activity" in Portugal in the next few weeks.

Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said detectives could not promise answers, but were checking every credible line of enquiry in the search.

"In the forthcoming weeks we are going to be going to a substantial phase of operational activity on the ground in Portugal," he said.

"It's something that you would expect in any major inquiry.

"A thorough serious crime investigation works systematically through all the credible possibilities, and often in an investigation you will have more than one credible possibility.

"Therefore just because we're doing a substantial phase of work in the forthcoming week doesn't mean that it's going to immediately lead to answers that will explain everything."

UK officers are currently running their own investigation into what happened to Madeleine, who vanished at the age of three from Portuguese holiday resort Praia da Luz in May 2007.

Kate and Gerry McCann, the parents of missing Madeleine
Kate and Gerry McCann have called for media restraint

Portuguese police have also reopened their probe into the disappearance, and while they are working with Scotland Yard, detectives have refused to set up an official joint investigation.

Mr Rowley echoed Madeleine's mother Kate McCann's calls for restraint in media coverage of the case.

He said: "I want to be able to go back to Kate and Gerry at some stage in the future and tell them we've got to the bottom of this, or second best is to go back to them and say we've turned over every stone and we can't get to an answer sometimes."

A number Met Police officers hope to be involved in the latest phase of activity.

"The activity in Portugal is led by the Portuguese, that's absolutely crystal clear in law," Mr Rowley said.

"We have some officers who would like to be helping with that on the ground in Portugal, doing some of the work we anticipate. We are putting the finishing touches to the plans to the Portuguese in the coming weeks.

"I anticipate a substantial phase of activity in forthcoming weeks including Portuguese and British officers, but the detail of that is still being finalised with Portuguese colleagues and it will all be under Portuguese leadership."

One line of enquiry for Scotland Yard is a lone male paedophile who staged a series of sex attacks on young British girls while they were on holiday in the Algarve.

by tiny 22.05.14 13:49

Well I for one am of the fence and wading through pig shit

by endgame 22.05.14 13:50

Riddlemeree wrote:Hello - long time lurker here - my thought is what if : the police KNOW ... Because let's face it ... There are plenty of pointers...but they need a caste iron case because the core suspects are lawyered up to the eyebrows. How would they play it ? Especially since they know what suspects are capable of. What if they needed core suspects to not know they were in the spotlight - but every so often they wanted to give them a poke, a frisson of fear ... Might they play the most incredible media game - putting Holmes like clues into their press releases which will later jump out as "we knew all along " pointers while deluging the media with distractions . The suspects will be on a roller coaster of wondering whether they have finally been fingered or whether the police are still on side chasing up all sorts of red herrings . It may turn out. The police have played a blinder ... All IMHO.

Welcome Riddlemeree. Without wishing to dampen your enthusiasm and, of course everything is possible, I can only ask if you can name a single case where this technique has been used and used successfully. I can't. Most police investigations follow a path of collecting evidence, following leads created by that evidence, forming conclusions from that evidence and when those conclusions are certain enough, charging someone with the crime. I can see no reason to vary this tried and trusted technique with reference to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann

by Bishop Brennan 22.05.14 13:52

It doesn't really matter who or what they put centre stage though does it? This entire dig is a grand finale for SY as they sign off from the case. Smithman efits and the removal of tannerman were AR's great breakthroughs. They got him precisely nowhere of course, but it's not surprising to see that the big all-cast final act has Smithman front and centre!

Have yourself a brandy there Tony and watch out for you BP. It's all theatre now as you know. The characters taking part are barely even relevant. thumbsup

by Cristobell 22.05.14 13:53

Tony Bennett wrote:
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Mr Rowley echoed Kate McCann's calls for restraint in media coverage of the case, and said: "I want to be able to go back to Kate and Gerry at some stage in the future and tell them we've got to the bottom of this, or second best is to go back to them and say we've turned over every stone and we can't get to an answer sometimes."
IMO the words in red tell us precisely where the Met are heading with this series of very public performances.

There will be lots more pictures and photo opportunities.

But nothing at the end of it

I don't think Theresa May will be pleased with that result, almost £10m of taxpayers money to say they can't get to an answer? She is no mood to be fobbed off so good luck to them with that one.

However, I actually don't think SY's result is that important in the whole scheme of things - the only investigation that counts is the Portuguese one, and if they get a result and SY don't, then once again the reputation of SY will plummet and the Government will face scathing criticism in the lead up to a general election. Theresa May will not take the backlash from the public for the failings of the police, she has already had enough grief from RB threatening to put her on the front page of the Sun every day in this case, Kate McCann ridiculing her 'fluffy words' and former CEOP head Jim Gamble tearing into her on Twitter.

There seems to be a few different agendas going on here, so it will be interesting to see how it all pans out.

by Hongkong Phooey 22.05.14 14:03

Riddlemeree wrote:Hello - long time lurker here - my thought is what if : the police KNOW ... Because let's face it ... There are plenty of pointers...but they need a caste iron case because the core suspects are lawyered up to the eyebrows. How would they play it ? Especially since they know what suspects are capable of. What if they needed core suspects to not know they were in the spotlight - but every so often they wanted to give them a poke, a frisson of fear ... Might they play the most incredible media game - putting Holmes like clues into their press releases which will later jump out as "we knew all along " pointers while deluging the media with distractions . The suspects will be on a roller coaster of wondering whether they have finally been fingered or whether the police are still on side chasing up all sorts of red herrings . It may turn out. The police have played a blinder ... All IMHO.

Hi and welcome!
I agree the police have played a blinder however not in the same sense. The arse covering in this case is truly astonishing, what could possibly be the reason for so much high powered protection as I'm beginning to wonder if there is any logical explanation. Far from starting at ground zero and exploring every angle they have started from the complete opposite and blatantly stated the parents and friends relatives et al. are in no way involved and they are still maintaining that line.This is a complete and utter waste of time and money, with nothing to show for it. All IMO of course.

by tiny 22.05.14 14:06

How can sy get away with this if they do whitewash it, they have the main players in the palm of there hands who have all LIED but are not suspects(can you believe that) but they go to Portugal to look for
cleaner ,housebreakers,gypsys,and a multitude of other lowlife(so they say) to say I am angry is an understatement.

by Woofer 22.05.14 14:09

Bellisa wrote:A source close to the family say Madeleines parents are buoyed by this latest news.

Now, who uses the word `buoyed`a lot ? laughat

by Angelique 22.05.14 14:12

Its very sad but once you accept that the Met are thoroughly corrupt it all seems so obvious. Sad

by Woofer 22.05.14 14:15

gbwales wrote:

Mr Rowley did not give details about what the next phase would involve, but said officers were working through every credible line of inquiry as part of the "slog of a major investigation".

In fairness, they have pretty much exhausted all the incredible lines of inquiry...

..... wonder if the dogs are considered `credible` ? Probably not cos the honourable right reverend high and mighty Gerry said so.

by Mirage 22.05.14 14:19

endgame wrote:
Riddlemeree wrote:Hello - long time lurker here - my thought is what if : the police KNOW ... Because let's face it ... There are plenty of pointers...but they need a caste iron case because the core suspects are lawyered up to the eyebrows. How would they play it ? Especially since they know what suspects are capable of. What if they needed core suspects to not know they were in the spotlight - but every so often they wanted to give them a poke, a frisson of fear ... Might they play the most incredible media game - putting Holmes like clues into their press releases which will later jump out as "we knew all along " pointers while deluging the media with distractions . The suspects will be on a roller coaster of wondering whether they have finally been fingered or whether the police are still on side chasing up all sorts of red herrings . It may turn out. The police have played a blinder ... All IMHO.
Welcome Riddlemeree. Without wishing to dampen your enthusiasm and, of course everything is possible, I can only ask if you can name a single case where this technique has been used and used successfully. I can't. Most police investigations follow a path of collecting evidence, following leads created by that evidence, forming conclusions from that evidence and when those conclusions are certain enough, charging someone with the crime. I can see no reason to vary this tried and trusted technique with reference to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann

The big day arrives. The court case of the century.........

Scenario 1.Day 1
The morning session is taken up with reading a list of witness names to 150 potential jurors in case they know any of them. As each name is read out one or two people raise their hand and peel off from the assembled crowd. Down to 50 potential jurors by coffee break. At 11am the judge continues, "Cherie Blair....Gordon Brown" Luckily, the court usher has opened up the double doors. (Exeunt Omnes.)

Scenario 2. Day 1
Defence lawyer: My Lord, it is my contention that neither party can receive a fair trial as a result of duress they have suffered over seven years of police lies and obfuscation when they thought they were being kept informed of the investigation progress. A tragedy in itself that two victims should be victimised twice over by dint of unorthodox and unsanctioned police practices that have struck a blow at the heart of our democracy.
Judge: I agree. You are free to go Mr and Mrs Mc. Have a nice day!

by whatliesbehindthesofa 22.05.14 14:22

Tony Bennett wrote:I've just seen the BBC's news report on Mark Rowley's press conference and statement.

They are putting 'Smithman' at the very heart of their news story, thus:

Madeleine McCann search to enter 'substantial phase' of activity

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Thursday 3 May 2007: Timeline
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20:30 Kate and Gerry McCann leave their apartment to have dinner at a Tapas bar
21:05 Gerry McCann checks on Madeleine and her siblings
22:00 A man is seen carrying a child wearing pyjamas heading towards the ocean
22:00 Kate McCann raises the alarm that Madeleine has gone missing

Yet, never mind all the many other doubts about the validity of the Smiths' claimed sighting, DCI Redwood on CrimeWatch on 14 October 2013 very deliberately led the viewing public to believe that members of this 'Irish family' were capable of producing two e-fits (both of different men, so it seems), despite the fact that all the three Smiths who gave statements to the PJ said they didn't see his face properly because it was dark, his face was hidden, we only saw him for a second or two, etc. etc.

How is it that some, even on this forum, can swallow such balderdash - hook, line and sinker?

The BBC have been putting at the bottom of every news article about the McCanns since Crimewatch. It isn't new.

ETA for example:

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Exact same piece, article from 6 months ago.

by Woofer 22.05.14 14:31

Riddlemeree wrote:Hello - long time lurker here - my thought is what if : the police KNOW ... Because let's face it ... There are plenty of pointers...but they need a caste iron case because the core suspects are lawyered up to the eyebrows. How would they play it ? Especially since they know what suspects are capable of. What if they needed core suspects to not know they were in the spotlight - but every so often they wanted to give them a poke, a frisson of fear ... Might they play the most incredible media game - putting Holmes like clues into their press releases which will later jump out as "we knew all along " pointers while deluging the media with distractions . The suspects will be on a roller coaster of wondering whether they have finally been fingered or whether the police are still on side chasing up all sorts of red herrings . It may turn out. The police have played a blinder ... All IMHO.

Welcome Riddlemeree. Oh how I wish you could be right. You must be a true optimist smilie