Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP
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Some have suggested that if the Met were not the source of these 'leaks'* they would (or should) deny the headlines. But why would they? It probably suits them just fine for people to be way off course with their discussions and speculation...
But the Met deliberately fuelled and stoked the fires of this media speculation by planting stories in the media in advance of the CrimeWatch McCann Special in October, and then by getting the public all agog during the programme with two different efits of what was supposed to be same bloke, plus images of four or five blonde men...
...and reports of maintenance men and hard-drinking mums eating fish fingers being interviewed by Scotland Yard makes the Operation Grange pretenders look as though they really are doing something with the 2 years and 9 months and £7 million-odd they've spent on the case so far...
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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"
Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".
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I think most people stopped believing any of these stories a long time ago. They read the first 2 paras and if it doesn`t say she has been found, they move on.
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I'm inclined to agree with you Lance De Boils, SY have to tread carefully to find the proof they need to finally discover what did happen to Madeleine and to draw this enquiry to a close.Lance De Boils wrote:Some have suggested that if the Met were not the source of these 'leaks'* they would (or should) deny the headlines. But why would they? It probably suits them just fine for people to be way off course with their discussions and speculation. It's not hampering their investigation and lets them get on with it whilst the public's eyes are focussed elsewhere.
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I am sitting precariously on the fence when it comes to what SY are really up to and what their motives really are.
I'm waiting to see what happens in the next 3 months.
If the 7th anniversary comes and goes without any credible progess, I think I'll find it nigh on impossible to keep my balance.
In the meantime, I'm doing my best to give them the benefit of the (many) doubt(s).
I'm waiting to see what happens in the next 3 months.
If the 7th anniversary comes and goes without any credible progess, I think I'll find it nigh on impossible to keep my balance.
In the meantime, I'm doing my best to give them the benefit of the (many) doubt(s).
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There are some quite strong subliminal messages here. The idea of a 'cover up' has been introduced. Then there are two other stories on the front page plus the word 'death' or 'dies' appears in front page stories and a banner no less than three times. Plus we are talking about a whole set of keys here - the set of keys to the whole block. Not just the McCanns apartment but other apartments in the block. That's a lot of doors to unlock and lock.Seek truth wrote:russiandoll wrote: now copied over from where I posted it in a reply to a member discussing a link to it on twitter , [ admin please delete if needlessly duplicated on different threads. ]
posted also on Mitchell's list of suspects topic....now I wonder who made this claim re the stolen keys ?
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Don't read the small print about the keys, it's THE COVER UP that catches my eye and is so true!
Very nice.
Of course the burglars and the missing keys might be yet more red herrings. But on the other hand, petty burglars operating in the area, while highly unlikely to be motivated by child abduction, might nevertheless be privy to certain useful information.
Word gets around in small communities. People who engage in criminal activity will tend to have an eye on the 'under world.' While not necessarily key players (oops!) in a major crime, they may carry out some of the donkey work (for the right price) or be prepared to turn a blind eye or assist, knowingly or otherwise, in some ways in the enactment of a crime.
If there is a death and there are those who want to cover up they may need to rely on others. Maybe even a network.
Keys are hugely symbolic. They have certainly been a major feature of this case. The whole topic of whether the apartment was locked or unlocked and/or where the keys were left in the apartment. There is massive significance in this. For if the McCann version of events is correct the abductor could well have been motivated to steal keys in order to get into the apartment and 'steal' Madeleine. An abductor could not assume that the apartment was unlocked. If the McCanns locked the apartment on other nights, but not that night, then a potential abductor might assume that it was likely to be locked on the night of the successful abduction.
It is possible that the 'missing keys' story is designed to boost the (flagging) McCann abduction theory. It might be seen to provide some kind of 'evidence' that a third party wanted to get hold of the keys in order to get into the McCanns apartment and steal a child. But that seems very lame. Still, if staff at the resort were feeling paranoid about possibly been seen as suspects or even potential 'abductors' you can see why something like that might not be reported.
A more interesting perspective perhaps would focus on Gerry's obsession with keys in this case. He repeatedly speaks in terms of 'unlocking what happened', or 'the key' to what happened. As others have noted, this appears to suggest that keys are highly significant to Gerry and Kate and and will 'unlock' something unknown - either to themselves or to others.
Keys unlock apartment doors, they lock other apartment doors, they open other apartments. (The McCanns were given keys to the church by the priest.) Didn't at least one of the Portugese police believe that the 10 or 12 elements of (the Tapas and wider friends/acquaintances) that had access to each others apartments might be the crucial to the enquiry? A missing set of keys could play a part in this, maybe?
If someone or people had been involved in the death of a child and they wanted to cover it up, for whatever reason, keys or sets of keys might feature quite highly.
Even if only on a symbolic level, I think a missing set of keys introduces a new dimension. It may be that someone or several people at OC holds a key, or even a whole set of keys (even if only metaphorically) to helping unravel the mystery.
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Lance De Boils wrote:I am sitting precariously on the fence when it comes to what SY are really up to and what their motives really are.
I'm waiting to see what happens in the next 3 months.
If the 7th anniversary comes and goes without any credible progess, I think I'll find it nigh on impossible to keep my balance.
In the meantime, I'm doing my best to give them the benefit of the (many) doubt(s).
I think you would make a very good defence barrister.
"Jury, unless you are absolutely sure that this Operation Grange thing is a whitewash, you cannot possibly bring in a verdict against them. The Met Police have a proud and honourable record. I rest my case".
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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"
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j.rob wrote:There are some quite strong subliminal messages here. The idea of a 'cover up' has been introduced. Then there are two other stories on the front page plus the word 'death' or 'dies' appears in front page stories and a banner no less than three times. Plus we are talking about a whole set of keys here - the set of keys to the whole block. Not just the McCanns apartment but other apartments in the block. That's a lot of doors to unlock and lock.Seek truth wrote:russiandoll wrote: now copied over from where I posted it in a reply to a member discussing a link to it on twitter , [ admin please delete if needlessly duplicated on different threads. ]
posted also on Mitchell's list of suspects topic....now I wonder who made this claim re the stolen keys ?
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Don't read the small print about the keys, it's THE COVER UP that catches my eye and is so true!
Very nice.
Of course the burglars and the missing keys might be yet more red herrings. But on the other hand, petty burglars operating in the area, while highly unlikely to be motivated by child abduction, might nevertheless be privy to certain useful information.
Word gets around in small communities. People who engage in criminal activity will tend to have an eye on the 'under world.' While not necessarily key players (oops!) in a major crime, they may carry out some of the donkey work (for the right price) or be prepared to turn a blind eye or assist, knowingly or otherwise, in some ways in the enactment of a crime.
If there is a death and there are those who want to cover up they may need to rely on others. Maybe even a network.
Keys are hugely symbolic. They have certainly been a major feature of this case. The whole topic of whether the apartment was locked or unlocked and/or where the keys were left in the apartment. There is massive significance in this. For if the McCann version of events is correct the abductor could well have been motivated to steal keys in order to get into the apartment and 'steal' Madeleine. An abductor could not assume that the apartment was unlocked. If the McCanns locked the apartment on other nights, but not that night, then a potential abductor might assume that it was likely to be locked on the night of the successful abduction.
It is possible that the 'missing keys' story is designed to boost the (flagging) McCann abduction theory. It might be seen to provide some kind of 'evidence' that a third party wanted to get hold of the keys in order to get into the McCanns apartment and steal a child. But that seems very lame. Still, if staff at the resort were feeling paranoid about possibly been seen as suspects or even potential 'abductors' you can see why something like that might not be reported.
A more interesting perspective perhaps would focus on Gerry's obsession with keys in this case. He repeatedly speaks in terms of 'unlocking what happened', or 'the key' to what happened. As others have noted, this appears to suggest that keys are highly significant to Gerry and Kate and and will 'unlock' something unknown - either to themselves or to others.
Keys unlock apartment doors, they lock other apartment doors, they open other apartments. (The McCanns were given keys to the church by the priest.) Didn't at least one of the Portugese police believe that the 10 or 12 elements of (the Tapas and wider friends/acquaintances) that had access to each others apartments might be the crucial to the enquiry? A missing set of keys could play a part in this, maybe?
If someone or people had been involved in the death of a child and they wanted to cover it up, for whatever reason, keys or sets of keys might feature quite highly.
Even if only on a symbolic level, I think a missing set of keys introduces a new dimension. It may be that someone or several people at OC holds a key, or even a whole set of keys (even if only metaphorically) to helping unravel the mystery.
Keys may have been given to someone else to enter the apartment when the parents were out, perhaps these are the key keys!
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Me too, I am assuming that SY have some intelligence and are not about to makes idiots of themselves across the entire world.Lance De Boils wrote:I am sitting precariously on the fence when it comes to what SY are really up to and what their motives really are.
In the meantime, I'm doing my best to give them the benefit of the (many) doubt(s).
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Hello again j.rob – I find your reference to subliminal messages interesting - the details of the Express story itself do not seem to me to justify a banner headline about a “COVER UP”, so I am inclined to believe this is a “teaser” of some kind, designed to send a message to someone, somewhere….
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Key keys! Yes indeed. If a whole bunch of keys to the block were stolen (are these not called skeleton keys?) then that might tie in with the burglar stuff. A burglar might witness things or have information that might be useful. Or someone else might.Cristobell wrote:j.rob wrote:There are some quite strong subliminal messages here. The idea of a 'cover up' has been introduced. Then there are two other stories on the front page plus the word 'death' or 'dies' appears in front page stories and a banner no less than three times. Plus we are talking about a whole set of keys here - the set of keys to the whole block. Not just the McCanns apartment but other apartments in the block. That's a lot of doors to unlock and lock.Seek truth wrote:russiandoll wrote: now copied over from where I posted it in a reply to a member discussing a link to it on twitter , [ admin please delete if needlessly duplicated on different threads. ]
posted also on Mitchell's list of suspects topic....now I wonder who made this claim re the stolen keys ?
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Don't read the small print about the keys, it's THE COVER UP that catches my eye and is so true!
Very nice.
Of course the burglars and the missing keys might be yet more red herrings. But on the other hand, petty burglars operating in the area, while highly unlikely to be motivated by child abduction, might nevertheless be privy to certain useful information.
Word gets around in small communities. People who engage in criminal activity will tend to have an eye on the 'under world.' While not necessarily key players (oops!) in a major crime, they may carry out some of the donkey work (for the right price) or be prepared to turn a blind eye or assist, knowingly or otherwise, in some ways in the enactment of a crime.
If there is a death and there are those who want to cover up they may need to rely on others. Maybe even a network.
Keys are hugely symbolic. They have certainly been a major feature of this case. The whole topic of whether the apartment was locked or unlocked and/or where the keys were left in the apartment. There is massive significance in this. For if the McCann version of events is correct the abductor could well have been motivated to steal keys in order to get into the apartment and 'steal' Madeleine. An abductor could not assume that the apartment was unlocked. If the McCanns locked the apartment on other nights, but not that night, then a potential abductor might assume that it was likely to be locked on the night of the successful abduction.
It is possible that the 'missing keys' story is designed to boost the (flagging) McCann abduction theory. It might be seen to provide some kind of 'evidence' that a third party wanted to get hold of the keys in order to get into the McCanns apartment and steal a child. But that seems very lame. Still, if staff at the resort were feeling paranoid about possibly been seen as suspects or even potential 'abductors' you can see why something like that might not be reported.
A more interesting perspective perhaps would focus on Gerry's obsession with keys in this case. He repeatedly speaks in terms of 'unlocking what happened', or 'the key' to what happened. As others have noted, this appears to suggest that keys are highly significant to Gerry and Kate and and will 'unlock' something unknown - either to themselves or to others.
Keys unlock apartment doors, they lock other apartment doors, they open other apartments. (The McCanns were given keys to the church by the priest.) Didn't at least one of the Portugese police believe that the 10 or 12 elements of (the Tapas and wider friends/acquaintances) that had access to each others apartments might be the crucial to the enquiry? A missing set of keys could play a part in this, maybe?
If someone or people had been involved in the death of a child and they wanted to cover it up, for whatever reason, keys or sets of keys might feature quite highly.
Even if only on a symbolic level, I think a missing set of keys introduces a new dimension. It may be that someone or several people at OC holds a key, or even a whole set of keys (even if only metaphorically) to helping unravel the mystery.
Keys may have been given to someone else to enter the apartment when the parents were out, perhaps these are the key keys!
On the other hand, they could have been stolen by someone or people who had other reasons for wanting to enter one or more of the apartments in the block.
And Gerry did go on and on about 'someone holding the key'. Which, at the very least, suggests that key/s are a sensitive issue.
Still, it is possible it is yet another red herring. Something that has been conveniently dropped in just to keep the story going. And even if the story is true, it may not be relevant to what happened to Madeleine.
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You honestly think they haven't already?suzyjohnson wrote:Lance De Boils wrote:
I am sitting precariously on the fence when it comes to what SY are really up to and what their motives really are. In the meantime, I'm doing my best to give them the benefit of the (many) doubt(s).
Me too, I am assuming that SY have some intelligence and are not about to makes idiots of themselves across the entire world.
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Well, much of it is not looking good, but I was hoping things would improve, eventually.Tony Bennett wrote:You honestly think they haven't already?suzyjohnson wrote:Lance De Boils wrote:
I am sitting precariously on the fence when it comes to what SY are really up to and what their motives really are. In the meantime, I'm doing my best to give them the benefit of the (many) doubt(s).
Me too, I am assuming that SY have some intelligence and are not about to makes idiots of themselves across the entire world.
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ultimaThule wrote:From Stephen Carpenter's statement; events of 4th May 2007:
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"SC: After he left, he explained that Gerry was frustrated with the way in which the case was being handled and they went to talk to John Hill.
DCF: Yes..
SC: In Mark Warner and he asked that all the Mark Warner rooms be opened so that he could check them and asked the cleaning ladies etc. to help open all the empty apartments that were not necessarily in the Mark Warner complex, but for which they might have the keys. At this moment I also met an English man called Dave who lived in the area and helped the Ocean Club to authorise entry into all the apartments possible, some of the apartments in Gerry's block belonged to local owners and Dave helped to get the keys to these apartments so that they could check them and search them, they checked them all in a general manner."
When authorising access it would seem John Hill failed to notice that his maintenance department's collection of keys to properties in block G were missing and begs the question of when this matter came to his attention and what steps were taken to either locate the lost keys or replace them?
In the meantime, it appears John Hill's oversight has blown the case wide open as literally anyone who was in or around Luz from the time these keys went missing may have found them and availed themselves of the opportunity to steal a child from her bed while her parents were otherwise engaged out of sight and earshot.
May we expect a further Crimewatch update with AR producing thousands of e-fits and appealing for help in identitfying all of the possible suspects?
Gerry sounds very much like one poster here, who wants a dictator back, so he could commit some crimes again through which the "truth will be learned.
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JRob, apologies, I think I was a little too cryptic. What I mean is, each family had their own keys to their own apartments, - if you asked someone to check on your kids, they would need your keys as well as their own. Equally, if you wanted someone to go into your apartment while you were out, and maybe remove something, you would have to give them your keys in order for them to do so.
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Unless, as was supposed, some of the checking was just 'listening at the window'Cristobell wrote:
JRob, apologies, I think I was a little too cryptic. What I mean is, each family had their own keys to their own apartments - if you asked someone to check on your kids, they would need your keys as well as their own.
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Or maybe just a message to everyone, everywhere!Garrincha wrote:Hello again j.rob – I find your reference to subliminal messages interesting - the details of the Express story itself do not seem to me to justify a banner headline about a “COVER UP”, so I am inclined to believe this is a “teaser” of some kind, designed to send a message to someone, somewhere….
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Cristobell wrote:JRob, apologies, I think I was a little too cryptic. What I mean is, each family had their own keys to their own apartments, - if you asked someone to check on your kids, they would need your keys as well as their own. Equally, if you wanted someone to go into your apartment while you were out, and maybe remove something, you would have to give them your keys in order for them to do so.
Yes, but suppose someone or a group of people 'stole' the skeleton keys to the entire block? They could then pass it on to someone who might want to enter one or more of the apartments.....That would mean you wouldn't need to ask someone for their key as you would have it already?
Obviously, that could happen with a burglary.....but equally, I suppose, there might be other motives for entering other people's apartments - sinister or otherwise.....
Maybe the key to the mystery lies in the keys....metaphorically or even physically....
For those who are intrigued by the Freemason links, keys are, indeed, hugely symbolic:
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Could the keys refer to the 'Luz key' riddle in A Estrela de Madeleine?
As discussed in other threads...
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***j.rob wrote:Or maybe just a message to everyone, everywhere!Garrincha wrote:Hello again j.rob – I find your reference to subliminal messages interesting - the details of the Express story itself do not seem to me to justify a banner headline about a “COVER UP”, so I am inclined to believe this is a “teaser” of some kind, designed to send a message to someone, somewhere….
I have no proof, but am convinced, that ALL journalists have enough knowledge of the case.
They're biding their time. And publish teasers, whilst waiting ... IMO
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Garrincha wrote:Hello again j.rob – I find your reference to subliminal messages interesting - the details of the Express story itself do not seem to me to justify a banner headline about a “COVER UP”, so I am inclined to believe this is a “teaser” of some kind, designed to send a message to someone, somewhere….
I agree - the big letters COVER UP were barely related to the actual story. These are the words that will remain in peoples` minds.
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BlackCatBoogie wrote:'...the Luz key' riddle in A Estrela de Madeleine?
As discussed in other threads...
FWIW after the famous BBC CrimeWatch McCann Show in October, DCI Andy Redwood was quoted as saying:
"Det Chief Inspector Andy Redwood says he has had calls from people who were in the Praia da Luz resort at the time of Maddie's disappearance. There are still members of our community out there who have key bits of information which will help us unlock this case," he says.
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25 May 2007, ITN interview: Gerry: "We truly believe that a member of the public holds the information to unlock where Madeleine is being kept."
1 May 2008), Interview with Nicky Campbell for Radio 5 Live Breakfast: Kate - "Madeleine's still missing and we need to get that key bit of information from somebody, erm...which will lead to us finding her."
Also (date uncertain): Gerry: "You know, clearly, the investigators are looking at all options and scenarios and that... that's the key thing; there are a host of scenarios here, er...and there... [SNIPPED] out there on a regular basis but we are in a very difficult situation because we believe someone - a member of the public - holds the key.
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So, they use masonic kinda language, what's new?Tony Bennett wrote:BlackCatBoogie wrote:'...the Luz key' riddle in A Estrela de Madeleine?
As discussed in other threads...
FWIW after the famous BBC CrimeWatch McCann Show in October, DCI Andy Redwood was quoted as saying:
"Det Chief Inspector Andy Redwood says he has had calls from people who were in the Praia da Luz resort at the time of Maddie's disappearance. There are still members of our community out there who have key bits of information which will help us unlock this case," he says.
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25 May 2007, ITN interview: Gerry: "We truly believe that a member of the public holds the information to unlock where Madeleine is being kept."
1 May 2008), Interview with Nicky Campbell for Radio 5 Live Breakfast: Kate - "Madeleine's still missing and we need to get that key bit of information from somebody, erm...which will lead to us finding her."
Also (date uncertain): Gerry: "You know, clearly, the investigators are looking at all options and scenarios and that... that's the key thing; there are a host of scenarios here, er...and there... [SNIPPED] out there on a regular basis but we are in a very difficult situation because we believe someone - a member of the public - holds the key.
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I am very much of the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) school of thought, but it is impossible to disregard what could possibly be very obvious signs to the initiated. Anyway, have been reading through McCann Files and was interested to see Gerry's reference to the 'world order' in an interview in Washington in July 2007. He has been asked a question about his and Kate's recent audience with the Pope and replied 'It was nice to know that many people in the Vatican and the world order are praying for Madeleine'. 'World Order' has quite a specific meaning (especially to the illuminati if you put 'New' in front of it) and choose to go down that road. Gerry threw himself on his knees like a praying arab, supposedly a distress signal to brother freemasons. Could his casual reference to the 'World Order' be his subtle way of introducing himself as the the new boy on the block (he wishes)?
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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP
The lawyer employed by the McCanns, via Metood 3, to represent murderess-of-her-own-daughter Leonor Cipriano in her accusation against Goncalo Amaral and four other PJ detectives, was Marcos Aragao Correia.Cristobell wrote:
...it is impossible to disregard what could possibly be very obvious signs to the initiated. Anyway, have been reading through McCann Files and was interested to see Gerry's reference to the 'world order' in an interview in Washington in July 2007...
He also achieved fame by arranging the searches of the Arade Dam for Madeleine's bones in January and again in March 2008.
It may be recalled that he lied about being told by underworld sources that Madeleine had been abducted, raped, killed and thrown into the Arade Dam, then lied again by claiming that his interest in Madeleine began after he had a vision of a big man strangling a blond girl 'aged about four'. This was said to have occurred on Staurday, 5 May 2007 after his first-ever visit to a Spiritualist church, on Madeira.
He has since done a bunk to Brazil.
In 2008, he gave an interview to a journalist. I reproduced extracts of that interview in an article about Correia back in 2010. This bit may be of interest:
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The journalist then asks Aragão Correia to comment on the PJ investigation. He answered: “The information that I received as a medium didn’t allow for me to understand what the criminal’s motivation was. But information that I obtained later on - especially from consulting an excellent book by criminologist Barra da Costa - led me to believe the theory, admitted by the former PJ Chief Inspector, that the police weren’t interested in finding Maddie, nor in catching the real culprits over her disappearance. Dr Barra da Costa said in his book that there was something like a tacit plan to induce a general sense of insecurity across society, to allow for the micro-chip (a device implanted in human beings that gives out signals to track down where they are) to be produced on a major scale.
“At the beginning I had some reservations concerning that issue, because I had never heard about it, but I was interested enough to go on the internet and to consult several credible websites, including FBI and CIA sources, where I found some amazing things: the micro-chip was indeed being promoted as the ideal weapon to prevent crime. These sources added that the population should be induced into accepting this technological revolution, even if it was at the eexpense of a policy of deliberatley promoting mass public insecurity. Well, the Maddie case fell like ‘manna from heaven’ for the promotion of the microchip, especially as far as children are concerned”.
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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"
Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".
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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP
Tony Bennett wrote:Lance De Boils wrote:I am sitting precariously on the fence when it comes to what SY are really up to and what their motives really are.
I'm waiting to see what happens in the next 3 months.
If the 7th anniversary comes and goes without any credible progess, I think I'll find it nigh on impossible to keep my balance.
In the meantime, I'm doing my best to give them the benefit of the (many) doubt(s).
I think you would make a very good defence barrister.
"Jury, unless you are absolutely sure that this Operation Grange thing is a whitewash, you cannot possibly bring in a verdict against them. The Met Police have a proud and honourable record. I rest my case".
In the nicest possible way:
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"Det Chief Inspector Andy Redwood says he has had calls from people who were in the Praia da Luz resort at the time of Maddie's disappearance. There are still members of our community out there who have key bits of information which will help us unlock this case," he says.
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WHAT does he mean by saying "There are still members of our community out there who have key bits of information,,,,,,,,"
'OUR' community?
Who are 'our'?
If he is saying, and i'm not sure what he is saying, the 'our community' is the ex-pats from UK, and they have THE key bits of information, he does know that they are predominately white people dosen't he?
So I presumeably read it that he is saying that the 'swarthy guys, Roma gypsies, coloured tractor drivers, Eastern European mafia types and foreign 'migrants', do NOT have the key bits of information which will unlock this case
Is that right or just me being thicko again?
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WHAT does he mean by saying "There are still members of our community out there who have key bits of information,,,,,,,,"
'OUR' community?
Who are 'our'?
If he is saying, and i'm not sure what he is saying, the 'our community' is the ex-pats from UK, and they have THE key bits of information, he does know that they are predominately white people dosen't he?
So I presumeably read it that he is saying that the 'swarthy guys, Roma gypsies, coloured tractor drivers, Eastern European mafia types and foreign 'migrants', do NOT have the key bits of information which will unlock this case
Is that right or just me being thicko again?
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Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP
Tiago da Silva an employee at the OC whose name has been allegedly connected with the keys for Block 5 - He is the image of one
of SC's e-fits.
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Sense a game change...lets hope these new investigations are more positive for Madeleine's sake and her family!
of SC's e-fits.
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Sense a game change...lets hope these new investigations are more positive for Madeleine's sake and her family!
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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP
What a curious first post, OnReflection. Points a finger of blame in a random direction while making it clear that the finger of blame should point away from the family, all the while drawing attention to the notion that someone who lived and worked in the area resembles an e-fit and could be identified as having been seen in the area, while forgetting that so has the ever suspicious and serially creepy Gerald McConn.
I smell... Cadaverine.
How did this character get enough time in 5A to spill cadaverine in so many locations AND then get access to the hire car weeks later? The evidence clings to the parents hides like a pack of hungry leeches.
I smell... Cadaverine.
How did this character get enough time in 5A to spill cadaverine in so many locations AND then get access to the hire car weeks later? The evidence clings to the parents hides like a pack of hungry leeches.
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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP
Tony Bennett wrote:The lawyer employed by the McCanns, via Metood 3, to represent murderess-of-her-own-daughter Leonor Cipriano in her accusation against Goncalo Amaral and four other PJ detectives, was Marcos Aragao Correia.Cristobell wrote:
...it is impossible to disregard what could possibly be very obvious signs to the initiated. Anyway, have been reading through McCann Files and was interested to see Gerry's reference to the 'world order' in an interview in Washington in July 2007...
He also achieved fame by arranging the searches of the Arade Dam for Madeleine's bones in January and again in March 2008.
It may be recalled that he lied about being told by underworld sources that Madeleine had been abducted, raped, killed and thrown into the Arade Dam, then lied again by claiming that his interest in Madeleine began after he had a vision of a big man strangling a blond girl 'aged about four'. This was said to have occurred on Staurday, 5 May 2007 after his first-ever visit to a Spiritualist church, on Madeira.
He has since done a bunk to Brazil.
In 2008, he gave an interview to a journalist. I reproduced extracts of that interview in an article about Correia back in 2010. This bit may be of interest:
+++++++++++++++
The journalist then asks Aragão Correia to comment on the PJ investigation. He answered: “The information that I received as a medium didn’t allow for me to understand what the criminal’s motivation was. But information that I obtained later on - especially from consulting an excellent book by criminologist Barra da Costa - led me to believe the theory, admitted by the former PJ Chief Inspector, that the police weren’t interested in finding Maddie, nor in catching the real culprits over her disappearance. Dr Barra da Costa said in his book that there was something like a tacit plan to induce a general sense of insecurity across society, to allow for the micro-chip (a device implanted in human beings that gives out signals to track down where they are) to be produced on a major scale.“At the beginning I had some reservations concerning that issue, because I had never heard about it, but I was interested enough to go on the internet and to consult several credible websites, including FBI and CIA sources, where I found some amazing things: the micro-chip was indeed being promoted as the ideal weapon to prevent crime. These sources added that the population should be induced into accepting this technological revolution, even if it was at the eexpense of a policy of deliberatley promoting mass public insecurity. Well, the Maddie case fell like ‘manna from heaven’ for the promotion of the microchip, especially as far as children are concerned”.
So Madeleine was sacrificed in order to achieve fame and fortune from worldwide micro-chipping of children ?
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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP
Should qualify the above by saying this seems extremely unlikely to me !
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