Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

by Silver Shuffle 09.02.14 8:40

Wonder if G stole the keys.... empty appartment needed... spin

by SixMillionQuid 09.02.14 9:06

Why get keys if this pre planned burglary that went wrong knew the McCanns left the rear patio doors wide open? I thought this is what they want us to think - but wont say. The burglars slipped into 5A between 8:30pm and 9pm through the patio doors and hung around for an hour.

by NickE 09.02.14 9:37

"A Sunday Express investigation in Portugal has revealed astonishing new information which, if proved, suggests the kidnap was well planned and executed using stolen keys".

Wow,British media solves the case clapping

by bobbin 09.02.14 9:45

Woofer wrote:So they came through the front door with a key, but left through the window

...leaving the patio door open so that the draught from the open window would slam the bedroom door and whoosh the curtains , phoof, like that.
big grin

oh dear, does it get any better.
Hope the three about to be arrested are different from the ones actually officially holding all the master keys, otherwise, there wouldn't be any 'theft' involved and that wouldn't be half as interesting. Mrs

by **tigger** 09.02.14 9:58

It was the Express Group who paid £ 500.000,- To the McCannns?

Wonder if they've recouped that loss yet with the extra copies sold when 'new' evidence turns up.

Iirc TM was advised not to sue for a while as the fine would increase as more negative stories were printed.
Wonder who would have been the advisor?

What really must have hurt is the pay out to Murat whogot £ 600.000,-.

by sami 09.02.14 10:55

This latest article is like an amalgamation of all of the allowable references and phrases given to the press by team McCann over the years. The crib sheet has been used to produce one story in its entirety.

The keys were needed in order to carry out the dry run the night before, remember ? Donal McIntyre told us, so it must be true. yes

There cannot be many stories left at this stage. Just one.

by **PeterMac** 09.02.14 11:42

I wonder how long it will be before the Legal department of Mark Warner wake up and see how much damage Clarence Mitchell and the McCanns are doing,
and have done to their claim to operate Child Friendly resorts.

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You know you’re in expert hands when you book a sun or ski holiday with Mark Warner, three-time winner in the British Travel Awards 2013 (Best Medium Ski & Winter Sports Holiday Company, Best Medium Activity/Sports Holiday Company, and Best Medium All Inclusive Holiday Company) and best ski operator according to the Telegraph Travel Awards 2013. Our beach resorts will give you more of a summer holiday, whether you unwind by the pool or with a pampering spa massage or enjoy tennis or sailing and other watersports. In winter you can be sure of an unforgettable ski holiday in our cosy chalet hotels in snow-sure resorts. And if you’re travelling with children you can be confident that, wherever you holiday with us, our renowned childcare for kids of all ages and free evening crèche will leave every member of the family with memories to last a lifetime. .

Memories to last a lifetime ? Mmmmm !

by bristow 09.02.14 11:54

Ere' tis.

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by juliet 09.02.14 11:57

Bishop Brennan makes such a good point: that people are now being persuaded that the apartment was secured and locked...

by Guest 09.02.14 12:01

Seek truth wrote:
russiandoll wrote: now copied over from where I posted it in a reply to a member discussing a link to it on twitter , [ admin please delete if needlessly duplicated on different threads. ]
posted also on Mitchell's list of suspects topic....now I wonder who made this claim re the stolen keys ?

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Don't read the small print about the keys, it's THE COVER UP that catches my eye and is so true!



Very nice.

Subliminally the other headers:

Lived fast and DIED young

DEATH & MM (Marilyn, not our Maddie MBM)

Why do I have a persistant impression the Express are after the ~~MCCS~~ Truth?

by russiandoll 09.02.14 12:17

juliet wrote:Bishop Brennan makes such a good point: that people are now being persuaded that the apartment was secured and locked...

Maybe so, but same people saw the open window and Kate doing her WHOOSH on CW.

I have a spare set of keys to block 5. I want an under-5 girl [ more than one similar to Maddie in the group, all accessible in their locked apartments using spare keys]. Let's say access via the front made sense, car park for getaway. Unlocked patio doors not an issue.
I simply start at the corner apartment, the first I come to, and luckily find a child of desired size and age there, I have not targeted this child at all, just been lucky, I do not have to enter any more apartments and can be away sooner than expected.

I unlock the front door, enter, find the child.
Do I

a] simply pick her up and leave via the front door, which is next to the room I am in and can be in my car very quickly to drive off before I am
discovered?

or
b] before picking up the child, waste time by walking around travel cots to the other side of the room, open the curtains, window and shutters, go back to get said child and repeat the journey, either passing her out to an accomplice who is of course at the open window but also very near the door [, which I can or if alone, go through the awkward and time -consuming process of climbing onto the bed and out of the window with this child in my arms ?
Also risky if I fall. This would not be considered imo, never mind done ,if there was quick exit available via a DOOR !

Many people will remember the tale as told by Kate and the family.....open window, curtains and shutters.

Why on earth would this be the case, had a key been used?

Not credible.

by nglfi 09.02.14 12:17

Also fears that a small child died from some form of toxic poisoning (although that is genuinely news ). In fact everything on that page apart from the Thorntons chocolates relates!

by SixMillionQuid 09.02.14 12:21

juliet wrote:Bishop Brennan makes such a good point: that people are now being persuaded that the apartment was secured and locked...

Which begs the question how did Gerry, Mr Oldfield and Kate get into the apartment through an unlocked patio door.

by mysterion 09.02.14 12:23

It sells a lot of papers today and when the truth comes out the SE will claim that they said it was a cover up of some sort.

I think the reason why the "elephant in the room" can be ignored by these press stories is because the great British people believe that the PJ planted the cadaverine etc.

by bobbin 09.02.14 12:24

bristow wrote:Ere' tis.

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Off topic, but I keep trying to swat that fly.... laughat

the one on your new icon...

by russiandoll 09.02.14 12:26

SixMillionQuid wrote:
juliet wrote:Bishop Brennan makes such a good point: that people are now being persuaded that the apartment was secured and locked...

Which begs the question how did Gerry, Mr Oldfield and Kate get into the apartment through an unlocked patio door.

Exactly, the story as told by the Mcs is being demolished if you take it at more than face value, despite the allegations in the piece of what happened at the expense of a child.

by suzyjohnson 09.02.14 12:34

Bishop Brennan wrote:Reading a story about keys and security reminds the public just how monumentally stupid the McCanns were to leave their three toddlers all alone in the apartment. EVERY NIGHT. Readers will rightly assume that to leave them alone with doors locked was bad enough - but to then go out with the doors left open.... well nobody can identify (or sympathise) with that.

So - an astonishingly mindless story but one which actually harms the McCanns by highlighting their indefensible behaviour throughout the holiday.

Unfortunately I don't think so. I think the casual reader will just think Scotland yard are getting somewhere at last, and the usual stuff about the Portuguese police. And, to the same readers, it makes it look as though the McCanns were set up by a carefully planned abduction.

by SixMillionQuid 09.02.14 12:35

Maintenance workers statements

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by suzyjohnson 09.02.14 12:39

Bishop Brennan wrote:The other reading of the recent flurry of stories is that there is a coordinated PR campaign underway to create a new narrative. The old 9pm - 9.40pm story (as detailed by the T9, the official website, and at length in "Madeleine") has now been consigned to history - declared irrelevant by SY. This new story seems to require the apartment to be locked (to minimise the stupidity of leaving the toddlers all alone). And so we have lots of headlines about "burglars" and "employees with access" and now "lost keys". In this new post-9:40pm timeline, there is only time for an entirely traceless break-ins. They have to be in and out and gone in a couple of minutes. And the best people to do that? 'Professional' Burglars. Ex-Employees (with or without grudges). People with KEYS!!!

suzyjohnson: Could be right there Bishop Brennan

by russiandoll 09.02.14 12:45

suzyjohnson wrote:
Bishop Brennan wrote:Reading a story about keys and security reminds the public just how monumentally stupid the McCanns were to leave their three toddlers all alone in the apartment. EVERY NIGHT. Readers will rightly assume that to leave them alone with doors locked was bad enough - but to then go out with the doors left open.... well nobody can identify (or sympathise) with that.

So - an astonishingly mindless story but one which actually harms the McCanns by highlighting their indefensible behaviour throughout the holiday.

Unfortunately I don't think so. I think the casual reader will just think Scotland yard are getting somewhere at last, and the usual stuff about the Portuguese police. And, to the same readers, it makes it look as though the McCanns were set up by a carefully planned abduction.

But it is the SY/PJ and not the media investigation is what counts and public opinion does not have any bearing on what the police do or find.

How can what is in the files, the statements from the parents re their checking, be reconciled with a key being used?

On record....Kate found the gates, patio door and curtains at that door closed - fits with entrance via the front door. Rear of 5a undisturbed.

There is Kate talking about a slamming door, a wide open window and raised shutters. I do not see how any policeman can reconcile that with a key being used to enter the apartment, regardless of whether shutters could be raised from outside. There is no credibility in any entry or exit via a window if there was access to a key. The police have to reconcile what Kate stated with a door being opened.

by SixMillionQuid 09.02.14 12:45

A handyman

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by **PeterMac** 09.02.14 12:56

russiandoll wrote:
Many people will remember the tale as told by Kate and the family.....open window, curtains and shutters.

Many other people will remember the CLOSED and whooshing curtains.
Kate herself gave us both, just in case we wanted to understand what had happened.

And, for the benefit of Carter-Ruck, one of those versions cannot be true.
In simple English, one of those versions is a LIE.

by russiandoll 09.02.14 13:03

There was always the consistent raised shutter and open window though, Peter ? How does that fit with abduction using a key to simplify and speed things? Kate can't rewrite something which she has rigidly and repeatedly claimed, like a mantra.

The key is convenient and plausible to a point, but it can't be squared with a totally open window and shutter as far as I can see.

This story raises more questions than it gives answers imo

by Guest 09.02.14 13:33

russiandoll wrote:There was always the consistent raised shutter and open window though, Peter ? How does that fit with abduction using a key to simplify and speed things? Kate can't rewrite something which she has rigidly and repeatedly claimed, like a mantra.

The key is convenient and plausible to a point, but it can't be squared with a totally open window and shutter as far as I can see. This story raises more questions than it gives answers imo

Red herrings

The answer to your point lies in one of two red herrings in this case.

(I think there are some graphics of 'red herrings' about, but at the moment, I can't find any).

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Here are Kate McCann's very own words on the opened window and curtains and damaged shutters etc. :-

“I described to the police officers exactly what I found that night, as it was and is highly relevant and I knew that every little detail could be helpful in finding my daughter which is our only aim. The window which is a ground floor window was completely open and is large enough for a person to easily climb through it. Whether it had been opened for this purpose remains unknown. It could of course have been opened by the perpetrator when inside the apartment as a potential escape route or left open as a ‘red herring.’ "

So, how to explain the open window etc.? The abductor staged it as a 'red herring'.

But wait - it seems that the abductor identified by Jane Tanner in the first place was also a red herring, as we learnt following DCI Redwood's 'revelation moment' as aired on BBC Crimewatch, 14 October 2013:

Express 16 October 2013:
The Crimewatch broadcast follows the dismissal of an earlier sighting of a "suspect" and child as a red herring.

Wikipedia:
Although Tanner had not seen the man's face, the sighting became important because it offered investigators a time frame for the abduction. Scotland Yard eventually came to view it as a red herring

This now looks like the first case in history where a red herring staged an event as a red herring

by NickE 09.02.14 13:43

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by jeanmonroe 09.02.14 13:46

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Apartment key theft cover-up by resort staff in Madeleine McCann case
KEYS to the holiday apartment from which Madeleine McCann was abducted were lost shortly before she vanished, it was claimed last night.

By: James Murray
Published: Sun, February 9, 2014
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IT has been alleged that the hotel 039 s set of keys to the Mccann room went missing IT has been alleged that the hotel's set of keys to the Mccann room went missing [GETTY]

However, police were not informed about the loss of potentially crucial evidence which could unlock the seven-year mystery.

A Sunday Express investigation in Portugal has revealed astonishing new information which, if proved, suggests the kidnap was well planned and executed using stolen keys.

Amid claims that Portuguese police are about to arrest three former workers at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz, based on information gathered by Scotland Yard, we tracked down a former maintenance worker at the complex whose revelations could change the direction of the international investigation.

The retired man, whose identity we have agreed to protect, said: “I have kept this to myself for long enough, so now it is right to tell people what happened.

“There was another maintenance worker at the Ocean Club who said he had lost a set of keys for the whole of block five.”

Kate and Gerry McCann, their twins Sean and Amelie and eldest daughter Madeleine, were staying in apartment 5a in the block, where there had been a spate of burglaries in the weeks before she vanished.

The former Ocean Club worker revealed: “I remember my colleague telling some of us the keys to that block had been lost.

“He told us about it in the week when the child was taken but I cannot remember the exact day. In the maintenance department we kept duplicates of all keys to the apartments.

“They were on a long cable and very clearly marked and we kept them in a safe.

“If there was a problem, a water leak, a gas leak, it was important for us to have entry to apartments if the owners or guests were out.

Madeleine McCann, police, investigation, police, Portugal, Tiago da SilvaDENIALS: Maintenance worker Tiago da Silva [MARK KEHOE]

“When the man told us about the lost keys, he started crying. He was very upset. He was worried about losing his job, I think, and he did not want others to know about it.

“After the child disappeared, we all had to give statements to the police but I did not mention the keys had been lost because I did not think it was relevant.”

Shortly after Madeleine went missing, the world’s media descended on the Ocean Club and staff were told not to speak to journalists and to co-operate fully with police.

It was widely reported then that someone may have entered 5a through unlocked patio doors so people were not suggesting stolen duplicate keys could have been used to gain access through the front door.

It was widely reported then that someone may have entered 5a through unlocked patio doors

The man said: “This has been on my mind for a long time and you are the first person I have told about it. I did not want to get the other man into trouble, I suppose.

"I didn’t really like the man and I didn’t want trouble from him. He was always doing nasty pranks. Once he put fibreglass in my work trousers which is not nice because it rubs against the skin and hurts.

“He was a young, confident man and I was a lot older than him and we just didn’t get on. In fact, he was the reason I left the job. After the little girl was taken, the atmosphere was really bad. It was not a good place to work.”

The Sunday Express has seen the statement the man gave to Portuguese police shortly after Madeleine was taken on the evening of May 3, 2007 ,and there is no mention of him stating keys had gone missing.

A Portuguese newspaper reported last week that police were particularly interested in a driver at the Ocean Club who dropped guests at the apartments after they arrived from Faro airport.

The man said: “On that night I was asked to do some driving because the man who was supposed to do the driving did not arrive at work. I remember ringing my wife and telling her I would be late home that night.”

Now that the man has come forward with new information he is likely to have to give a more detailed statement to police.

The Sunday Express tracked down the maintenance worker who allegedly lost the keys, 29-year-old Tiago da Silva, who lives a few miles from Luz in Lagos, a pretty coastal town.

When we put it to him that keys were lost, he paused momentarily before saying: “That is not the case. I can’t remember any keys going missing. The keys in maintenance were kept in a safe and nobody could get to them.”

However, his former colleague insisted: “I know what he told me at the time. The keys for all the blocks were kept on a cable and clearly marked.

“He said he had lost the keys to block five. He told me in the same week when the little girl went missing. I am sure of this.

“From my memory I think they were replaced with duplicate keys for the apartments which were held at reception. I remember all this very clearly. He did not want us to tell people about it, so we didn’t say anything.”

Scotland Yard officers have made about 20 trips to Portugal for their investigation, Operation Grange, into Madeleine’s disappearance when she was approaching her fourth birthday.

Portuguese detectives have carried out inquiries on behalf of the Yard team, which has not been allowed to pursue investigations on the ground..
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"It was widely reported then that someone may have entered 5a through unlocked patio doors so people were not suggesting stolen duplicate keys could have been used to gain access through the front door"
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Well, didn't need key for THAT!

Gerry McCann had left it UNLOCKED!

People didn't suggest access through UNLOCKED front door because K&GM have told us, ad nauseum, HOW the 'abductor' got in.

THROUGH THE UNLOCKED PATIO DOORS THEY DILIBERATELY AND CONSCIOUSLY LEFT UNLOCKED FOR 'CHECKING PURPOSES' BY THEIR FRIEND MO AND THEMSELVES!

eta: SO, CW was a load of 'bollox' then showing G&KM check 'entries' through UNLOCKED patio door!

£7.5 million and 2years 9 mths for this 'retro fitting' Andy?

Do your effing job, man!

You're making the blinking SY/MET the 'laughing stock' of the WORLD, single handedly!

by **Tony Bennett** 09.02.14 14:04

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Apartment key theft cover-up by resort staff in Madeleine McCann case - KEYS to the holiday apartment from which Madeleine McCann was abducted were lost shortly before she vanished, it was claimed last night.

By: James Murray - Published: Sun, February 9, 2014

IT has been alleged that the hotel's set of keys to the McCann room went missing [GETTY]

However, police were not informed about the loss of potentially crucial evidence which could unlock the seven-year mystery.

A Sunday Express investigation in Portugal has revealed astonishing new information which, if proved, suggests the kidnap was well planned and executed using stolen keys.

Amid claims that Portuguese police are about to arrest three former workers at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz, based on information gathered by Scotland Yard, we tracked down a former maintenance worker at the complex whose revelations could change the direction of the international investigation.

The retired man, whose identity we have agreed to protect, said: “I have kept this to myself for long enough, so now it is right to tell people what happened.

“There was another maintenance worker at the Ocean Club who said he had lost a set of keys for the whole of block five.”

Kate and Gerry McCann, their twins Sean and Amelie and eldest daughter Madeleine, were staying in apartment 5a in the block, where there had been a spate of burglaries in the weeks before she vanished.

The former Ocean Club worker revealed: “I remember my colleague telling some of us the keys to that block had been lost.

“He told us about it in the week when the child was taken but I cannot remember the exact day. In the maintenance department we kept duplicates of all keys to the apartments.

“They were on a long cable and very clearly marked and we kept them in a safe.

“If there was a problem, a water leak, a gas leak, it was important for us to have entry to apartments if the owners or guests were out.

Madeleine McCann, police, investigation, police, Portugal, Tiago da SilvaDENIALS: Maintenance worker Tiago da Silva [MARK KEHOE]

“When the man told us about the lost keys, he started crying. He was very upset. He was worried about losing his job, I think, and he did not want others to know about it.

“After the child disappeared, we all had to give statements to the police but I did not mention the keys had been lost because I did not think it was relevant.”

Shortly after Madeleine went missing, the world’s media descended on the Ocean Club and staff were told not to speak to journalists and to co-operate fully with police.

It was widely reported then that someone may have entered 5a through unlocked patio doors so people were not suggesting stolen duplicate keys could have been used to gain access through the front door.

The man said: “This has been on my mind for a long time and you are the first person I have told about it. I did not want to get the other man into trouble, I suppose.

"I didn’t really like the man and I didn’t want trouble from him. He was always doing nasty pranks. Once he put fibreglass in my work trousers which is not nice because it rubs against the skin and hurts.

“He was a young, confident man and I was a lot older than him and we just didn’t get on. In fact, he was the reason I left the job. After the little girl was taken, the atmosphere was really bad. It was not a good place to work.”

The Sunday Express has seen the statement the man gave to Portuguese police shortly after Madeleine was taken on the evening of May 3, 2007, and there is no mention of him stating keys had gone missing.

A Portuguese newspaper reported last week that police were particularly interested in a driver at the Ocean Club who dropped guests at the apartments after they arrived from Faro airport.

The man said: “On that night I was asked to do some driving because the man who was supposed to do the driving did not arrive at work. I remember ringing my wife and telling her I would be late home that night.”

Now that the man has come forward with new information he is likely to have to give a more detailed statement to police.

The Sunday Express tracked down the maintenance worker who allegedly lost the keys, 29-year-old Tiago da Silva, who lives a few miles from Luz in Lagos, a pretty coastal town.

When we put it to him that keys were lost, he paused momentarily before saying: “That is not the case. I can’t remember any keys going missing. The keys in maintenance were kept in a safe and nobody could get to them.”

However, his former colleague insisted: “I know what he told me at the time. The keys for all the blocks were kept on a cable and clearly marked.

“He said he had lost the keys to block five. He told me in the same week when the little girl went missing. I am sure of this.

“From my memory I think they were replaced with duplicate keys for the apartments which were held at reception. I remember all this very clearly. He did not want us to tell people about it, so we didn’t say anything.”

Scotland Yard officers have made about 20 trips to Portugal for their investigation, Operation Grange, into Madeleine’s disappearance when she was approaching her fourth birthday.

Portuguese detectives have carried out inquiries on behalf of the Yard team, which has not been allowed to pursue investigations on the ground..

A lot of facts there.

Or alleged facts.

I am wondering if we could run the Express and Mirror stories together?

Is it possible that the lost/stolen keys were found by/handed to Uzbek gypsies?

by Okeydokey 09.02.14 14:08

bristow wrote:Ere' tis.

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More holes than a Swiss cheese or a two-round golf course!

If the Express are right, then the dastardly gang had a great stroke of luck when they came across the bunch of keys that had been "lost".

On the other hand, if it was an inside job and the keys weren't really lost, why didn't the gang just get copies cut without ever admitting they had been lost? Admitting to keys being lost is a bit of a give away isn't it? Immediately gives a link to the crime.

by jeanmonroe 09.02.14 14:15

If they had keys i wonder why they didn't also 'nick' the 'home alone' Tanner kids or 'home alone' Oldfield kid or 'home alone' McCann twins.

In for a penny, in for a pound, and all that!