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Post by Okeydokey Sat 04 Jan 2014, 1:07 am

Woofer wrote:And there was `overthehill` defending the press a few days ago for not being biased.

So what member of clanmacann has emailed that little gem to the Mail?

So one of Andy Redwood`s team has told Stephen Wright that their team think the Portuguese police are a disgrace ..........  as if  !!!

Yes Over The Hill who was shown to be spreading misinformation about defamation legislation (trying - wrongly - to claim reporting foreign libel trials did not enjoy legal privilege).
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Post by joti26 Sat 04 Jan 2014, 1:17 am

Just needs a little correction I feel! - "An informed source said: ‘After all the far-fetched theories about what may have happened to Madeleine, there may be a far more simple ABSURD explanation: that a burglary went horribly wrong." - Yeah right!  laugh
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Post by stillsloppingout Sat 04 Jan 2014, 1:19 am

Mail online are taking comments mine on there , most have seen through this bull .
Happy new year to all
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Post by jeanmonroe Sat 04 Jan 2014, 1:21 am

joti26 wrote:Just needs a little correction I feel! - "An informed source said: ‘After all the far-fetched theories about what may have happened to Madeleine, there may be a far more simple ABSURD explanation: that a burglary went horribly wrong." - Yeah right!  laugh

When was the last time a burglary 'went wrong' and a child was 'abducted' (in lieu of valuables) in the UK?

Anyone?
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Post by stillsloppingout Sat 04 Jan 2014, 1:26 am

I have it !! Of course
Im working so excuse typing .

This latest story is to flush out the tapas group " we have phone records and data .They now know they are on to them ?
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Post by Bishop Brennan Sat 04 Jan 2014, 1:26 am

And this crack team of burglars. They were targeting what exactly... In holiday apartments... In a family resort.... In low season.   Not likely to find the family jewellery, no fancy cars, so a few euros of spare cash? Some old beach towels and a some flip flops perhaps?  At best an unguarded iPad. 

So not exactly criminal masterminds. And if these petty thieves are disturbed what would they do?  Drop everything and peg it down the street of course.  There is just NO scenario where they would steal a kid.  This doesn't even pass the most basic of common sense test.

But it's a great story for the PR team to plant just before the libel trial has another day in court. And the press just lap it up and rake in the cash.  A win win really.
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Post by bristow Sat 04 Jan 2014, 1:44 am

This is on the same level as Tractorman, which at the time was making big headlines then nothing and should be treated with the distain it deserves.

 I'm offended that the Newspapers think we will believe such utter absurdness.

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Post by bristow Sat 04 Jan 2014, 1:52 am

Just WHO died in that apartment if it wasn't Madeleine?

All this utter nonsense about burglars, tractor man et al and JUST NO BLOODY MENTION of the dogs findings in ANY MSM, what the HELL is going on???!!!

God I'm furious with it all!

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Post by jeanmonroe Sat 04 Jan 2014, 2:12 am

EVERTONIA, MERSEYSIDE, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago

Oh Maddie I hope to God that they Find you alive and Well...I hope too that Ben Needham is found Safe and Well. You are both in my Heart x x
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Perhaps Evertonia will have a word with 'our Kate' at the football today and get her to tell Cameron to provide £7,000,000 to 'search' for Ben!
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Macca, Leeds, 2 hours ago

The Portuguese police have been infuriating and I have very little confidence I their ability
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But presumeably Macca has confidence in the great UK police and the MET police 'elites' who are investigating Madeleine's 'disappearance'

The same 'elite' team headed, before his retirement, by Hamish Campbell, who DCI Redwood 'reported' to daily, who 'fitted up' and had convicted, wrongly, an innocent man, Barry George, for a murder he did not commit!

Still, better to have 'confidence' in the 'stitching up, framing' of innocent people, by the MET 'elites' than Portuguese Police.
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Post by Okeydokey Sat 04 Jan 2014, 2:13 am

stillsloppingout wrote:Mail online are taking comments mine on there , most have seen through this bull .
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Been arrowing!
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Post by canada12 Sat 04 Jan 2014, 3:47 am

Here is my take on this...
Suppose there were three somewhat shady individuals in PDL at the time Madeleine disappeared.
Suppose, through some connections Gerry had in PDL, one or all of these three individuals had something to do with assisting Gerry to dispose of Madeleine's body.
Perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss SY's interest in them.
Perhaps they actually can shed some light on the investigation.
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Post by marconi Sat 04 Jan 2014, 4:10 am

The title of that article could be shocking for the McCanns. At the begining there were 38 people of interests, none of them belonging to the Tapas.  Short after, there were 3 more persons added to the 38 and Redwood did not say they did not belong to the Tapas group.
The article said something went terribly wrong and the 3 abducted Madeleine.  Imo, that woke up could be translated in died.

There is the possibility that somebody leaked news to the Mail and that the Yard has  evidence that those extra persons  are really involved in the tragedy.

I don't understand 1000s of calls coming from such a little village in such a short time.
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Post by suzyjohnson Sat 04 Jan 2014, 4:11 am

If three burglars were working together in the area, they wouldn't need to phone each other at all, because they'd be together wouldn't they?

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Post by suzyjohnson Sat 04 Jan 2014, 4:14 am

marconi wrote:
I don't understand 1000s of calls coming from such a little village in such a short time.

The timings of all the calls should be very interesting indeed

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Post by marconi Sat 04 Jan 2014, 5:50 am

If 1000s calls happened on the evening of the 3rd and on the night of the 4th, Praia da Luz must be a very boring place whith tourists missing their fatherland, calling home and their friends, hoping that time goes by fastly, that they can go back to the airport, returning to their country as fast as they can.
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Post by tigger Sat 04 Jan 2014, 6:32 am

PeterMac wrote:Hooray.  A whole gang.  That should make things easier.

Professional burglars, who left the passports, credit cards, camera, video, and everything of value, but panicked when they found three sleeping children, and took one . . .

This is getting more ludicrous by the hour.

It's like one of hose jokes: how many irishmen do you need to.....in this case one to lift the shutters, one to climb in, one to ....etc big grin

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Post by Smokeandmirrors Sat 04 Jan 2014, 7:41 am

Oh whoopee. Three burglars, no fingerprints, DNA or any other sign of their existence within the apartment.

Apparently, according to the parents it was so safe and quiet in the evenings. But recalling the list of "suspects" with new ones being added all the time, the place was completely heaving. There were thieves, perverts and miscreants in great hoards by the sound of it, crowds of them all lurking, peering through windows, yakking on their mobiles, hiding in stairwells.

Perhaps the two men allegedly seen arguing on the night of the third were having a barney over whose turn it was to hide in a stairwell. Perhaps they had a rota.

Mr Redwood and his 38 strong team with their £88k holiday bill are starting to look a wee bit silly for allowing this nonsense to continue.




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Post by tigger Sat 04 Jan 2014, 7:50 am

It's quite good spin: the parents were 'outside' and rushed in to their disturbed child.

Neat, these parents were having a drink outside - say some twenty meters away.

Not much difference to parents who were eating and drinking some 50 meters away.

Seems there is a shortage of suitable dead paedos for the job of exonerating the McCanns.  splat 

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Post by SixMillionQuid Sat 04 Jan 2014, 7:56 am

Mr Redwood and 30 strong team of detectives have still failed to explain how the burglars / intruders got in and out of apt 5A - two years later and we're still waiting for their explanation. These guys need to banned from entering Portugal.
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Post by Guest Sat 04 Jan 2014, 8:45 am

All pure spin, well that gives heads up to the informed source burglars they'll have packed their cases and be long gone!

Why don't the MSM do responsibility instead of stories, This from the Mail is irresponsible who's pulling Dacre's strings because somebody is, even the word abducted being used again. There is a simple explanation and it's not the one they have published, shame on them for again trying to decieve the British Public

At the very bottom of story

Earlier this week it emerged that the bill for the Yard’s probe has topped £6million. The total is now likely to exceed £10million, with £88,000 having gone on travel costs so far

That's what should have been the headlines.

Is there going to be a Tax for Maddie in the next budget?
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Post by Guest Sat 04 Jan 2014, 9:05 am

I see The Mail have got their usual soft porn down the sidebar there.
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Post by Guest Sat 04 Jan 2014, 9:13 am

jeanmonroe wrote:So 'smithman' was a burglar then?

So shouldn't be too long before one of the Smith's 'remembers' the stripey top and 'swag' bag he was carrying along with a child.

Is there a court case judgement in a libel case in Portugal very soon?

Morning Jeanmonroe,

You forgot the mask(s)!

Why does the whole story remind me of Donald Duck?

And yeah, court in action on the 7th, so apparently orders are out: clutter up the hogwash!
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Post by Guest Sat 04 Jan 2014, 9:16 am

I don't understand why, if three men enter an apartment for nefarious reasons and leave with nothing but a child, the motive is assumed to be burglary? Maybe they were Michael Shrimpton's gang? Ah, but then of course they would have taken out everybody in a 10km radius to make sure that their activities went unnoticed...

This story is mostly rubbish but it gets out there the idea that SY are digging through the phone data and that can only mean uncomfortable questions for the main protagonists. If it is established that the T9 were already using PAYG phones at the time of the disappearance, where would that leave them?
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Post by Guest Sat 04 Jan 2014, 9:17 am

Okeydokey wrote:
littlepixie wrote:Can't this paper be reported to trading standards or something for that pack of lies. It should be shut down for selling a product not fit for purpose.

I wonder what the names of the Detectives are who branded it a disgrace and if they are "real life serving Detectives" or just Dave and Pigeon Arthur?

God Bless Poor Maddie McCann - aged 3

It's the McCanns who want to control the press. I am quite happy for them to publish nonsense as long as we can publish corrections to the nonsense.

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Post by Guest Sat 04 Jan 2014, 9:19 am

bristow wrote:Just WHO died in that apartment if it wasn't Madeleine?

All this utter nonsense about burglars, tractor man et al and JUST NO BLOODY MENTION of the dogs findings in ANY MSM, what the HELL is going on???!!!

God I'm furious with it all!

Dumb question, who died there: maybe those six dying patients were traveling on the airport bus too?
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Post by Seek truth Sat 04 Jan 2014, 9:21 am

They're just trying to irritate the public.
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Post by Guest Sat 04 Jan 2014, 9:34 am

Seek truth wrote:They're just trying to irritate the public.
 sarcastic

This comment worked on me.

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You would think that every new born child in the E.U. should have a DNA stamp registered. Simple blood sample and this would be part of the Bio metric of the person on a database in each country. Making identification for various reasons a lot easier?


How on earth would that have made any difference in this case?
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Post by tigger Sat 04 Jan 2014, 9:39 am



Making it 100% sure that any abducted or abused child will be killed.  Great thinking...

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Post by plebgate Sat 04 Jan 2014, 9:45 am

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
Seek truth wrote:They're just trying to irritate the public.
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This comment worked on me.

phetpeter, Phetchabun, 6 hours ago
You would think that every new born child in the E.U. should have a DNA stamp registered. Simple blood sample and this would be part of the Bio metric of the person on a database in each country. Making identification for various reasons a lot easier?


How on earth would that have made any difference in this case?
Simple blood sample or urine test maybe?
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Post by Guest Sat 04 Jan 2014, 9:46 am

But if you'd be in the business of flogging DNA testing -as a wider agenda, say- you'd be over the moon, wouldn't you?
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