YouTube - BBC Crimewatch Promo

by **sharonl** 11.10.13 13:24

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Kirsty Young: "The case that has captivated the world"

Andy Redwood: "It was a revelation moment"

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by Guest 11.10.13 13:33

Thanks sharonl thumbsup

It's the person who's gone into that apartment and taken a little girl???? Not Madeleine, not our daughter.........

by morse 11.10.13 13:43

That says it all- " gone into that apartment and taken a little girl"- Come on the "Great Scotland Yard"- NOT. Do the right thing - interrogate these people.

No PARENT would say that. Her name in case you have forgotten it was MADELEINE YOUR DAUGHTER. No loving mum or dad would be so cold or distant. angry2

IMO WOOF WOOF

by Ayniia 11.10.13 14:14

That reconstruction bit with closing a window followed by an actual image of 5A when we know the reconstruction was in Spain, oh well...

by Guest 11.10.13 14:23

Just look at the stills and the subliminal messages they aim to project:

The not-Maddie-child: suggests an abduction, nothing more, nothing less. Was there an abduction then? And just look at those enormous bare feet for a 3-4 year old, or are we looking at a ten year old now?

The not-Maddies-bed; what's that red thing over there? Oh, a red herring? Thank you!
The not-Cuddle-Cat must have jumped from its alleged position on that non-existing high sill onto the pillow all by itself?

Especially wonderful is the meeting place, where Kirsty Lang is allowed access to the former arguidos: could well pass for an opening shot in one of those mystery games, the Apple store abounds with: dark, shadowy, ancient furniture, lit candles. Wonderful, well done Props!

KH: 'they've taken a little girl'
'A what?'
'A little girl'
'Does she have a name?'
'Why d'ya ask?'

by **sharonl** 11.10.13 14:32

DCI Andy Redwood has a revelation...

rev·e·la·tion

/ˌrevəˈlāSHən/

noun

noun: revelation; plural noun: revelations

1. a surprising and previously unknown fact, esp. one that is made known in a dramatic way.

"revelations about his personal life"

synonyms:

disclosure, surprising fact, announcement, report, admission, confession...

the making known of something that was previously secret or unknown.

"the revelation of an alleged plot to assassinate the king"

synonyms:

divulging, divulgence, disclosure, disclosing, letting slip, letting drop, giving away, giving out, leaking, leak, betrayal, unveiling, making known, making public, broadcasting, publicizing, dissemination, reporting, report, declaring, declaration

"the revelation of a secret"

used to emphasize the surprising or remarkable quality of someone or something.

"seeing them play at international level was a revelation"

2. the divine or supernatural disclosure to humans of something relating to human existence or the world.

"an attempt to reconcile Darwinian theories with Biblical revelation"

by Ayniia 11.10.13 14:39

"The judge ended up by ironically saying that the book had “misleading advertising”, since the cover promised “revelations” about the case."
I'm guessing this will be applicable to the show... All IMO...

by Monty Heck 11.10.13 14:56

Ayniia wrote:"The judge ended up by ironically saying that the book had “misleading advertising”, since the cover promised “revelations” about the case."
I'm guessing this will be applicable to the show... All IMO...

You are probably right. What would be truly revelatory in this programme would be information indicating:

why SY/Rebekka Brooks/Dave Cameron/Gordon Brown/Tony Blair et al believe that the child's parents were not involved in her disappearance against evidence to the contrary
why there is this concentration on the thesis of abduction above all other possibilities when all the evidence is tending towards ruling that out
what exactly the problem was with the previous Portuguese/UK investigation, which made SY dismiss it's conclusions and start again in the opposite direction

Now, that would be worth watching.

by jeanmonroe 11.10.13 15:00

Ayniia wrote:"The judge ended up by ironically saying that the book had “misleading advertising”, since the cover promised “revelations” about the case."
I'm guessing this will be applicable to the show... All IMO...

So Andy found the 'revelation', did he?

Which MEANS that, the entire police force of a country, Portugal, an entire UK police force,LP, 8(?) PI 'professionals from god knows where, ALL 'missed' it!

But 'sniffer' Andy had no such trouble!

by bristow 11.10.13 15:02

This is just so frustrating, why are the public being taken for complete idiots??!! tease

by **Tony Bennett** 11.10.13 15:04

bristow wrote:This is just so frustrating, why are the public being taken for complete idiots??!!

Clarence Mitchell once boasted that his job was 'to control what comes out in the media'.

Maybe he still does?

Or if not him, then maybe someone else does?

by ultimaThule 11.10.13 15:06

Portia wrote:Just look at the stills and the subliminal messages they aim to project:

The not-Maddie-child: suggests an abduction, nothing more, nothing less. Was there an abduction then? And just look at those enormous bare feet for a 3-4 year old, or are we looking at a ten year old now?

The not-Maddies-bed; what's that red thing over there? Oh, a red herring? Thank you!
The not-Cuddle-Cat must have jumped from its alleged position on that non-existing high sill onto the pillow all by itself?

Especially wonderful is the meeting place, where Kirsty Lang is allowed access to the former arguidos: could well pass for an opening shot in one of those mystery games, the Apple store abounds with: dark, shadowy, ancient furniture, lit candles. Wonderful, well done Props!

KH: 'they've taken a little girl'
'A what?'
'A little girl'
'Does she have a name?'
'Why d'ya ask?'

Right on, Portia goodpost

Keep 'em coming!

by endgame 11.10.13 15:08

Portia wrote:Just look at the stills and the subliminal messages they aim to project:

The not-Maddie-child: suggests an abduction, nothing more, nothing less. Was there an abduction then? And just look at those enormous bare feet for a 3-4 year old, or are we looking at a ten year old now?

The not-Maddies-bed; what's that red thing over there? Oh, a red herring? Thank you!
The not-Cuddle-Cat must have jumped from its alleged position on that non-existing high sill onto the pillow all by itself?

Especially wonderful is the meeting place, where Kirsty Lang is allowed access to the former arguidos: could well pass for an opening shot in one of those mystery games, the Apple store abounds with: dark, shadowy, ancient furniture, lit candles. Wonderful, well done Props!

KH: 'they've taken a little girl'
'A what?'
'A little girl'
'Does she have a name?'
'Why d'ya ask?'

Precisely Portia. All the production values - the make up, the lighting, the sets - are what we associate with the world of film fiction. In fact it is just like a film trailer complete with the hook line of Andy Redwood's great revelation. Tune in on Monday to see Supertec Andy reveal all. Let's not reveal this crucial information now or it will spoil the plot. This is no different to a teaser trailer for a Christmas episode of Eastenders. What has this got to do with solving a crime? It's a quite disgusting way to treat the memory of a 3 year old girl

by jeanmonroe 11.10.13 15:45

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Good job they left the BRIGHT outside LIGHT on!

Otherwise they might have been SUED by burglarman if he had tripped going up the stairway to the patio.

Strangely, on all photos of 5A, taken in May 2007, in PDL there is NO outside light!

If the 'new', BBC added, outside light was motion activated, and it being SO bright, it would have been 'activated' by Burgleman and the McCanns would have seen that from the Tapas and rushed to 5A, wouldn't they?

And saved the day!

Then i woke up.

So that's the first 'misleading' non FACTUAL embellishment, by the 'film makers'.

by Guest 11.10.13 15:49

It does look as if they have the curtains drawn on the patio doors, making it more difficult to get in.

by Truthandjustice 11.10.13 15:58

It was sooo wrong to leave the kids in an unlocked apartment. Kmc is seriously annoying a lot of people with her continued 'We did nothing wrong'. She knew it was wrong, implied by her discussing her reservations about leaving the unlocked patio door with Fiona Payne. If she denies her responsibility in that , it makes it very difficult to believe the rest of her story.

by jeanmonroe 11.10.13 16:20

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Firstly, could anyone point out to me where Madeleine's body IMPRINT is on the bed sheets. Not forgetting that her IMPRINT must have been 'made' and stayed imprinted, for at least 45 minutes BEFORE KM saw it.

By VANESSA ALLEN
Last updated at 23:38 14 October 2007
Kate McCann knew her daughter had been snatched because her body's imprint was left on her bed sheets, friends have said.
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Secondly, could anybody, tell me how Cuddlecat 'got down from his high ledge' and managed to get himself back to the bed and laying down with his head on the pillow, which had no DNA from Madeleine's hair on, just in time for the Crimewatch crew to film him.
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The little girl's Cuddle Cat, which she always took to bed, was found on a ledge at adult height.

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eta: these 'mistakes' have already been found in a 30 second 'clip'

How MANY in a 'full reconstruction', will there be?

Stil,l they could put all their 'mistakes' on the BBC Three programme...........................'Great Movie Mistakes'!

by tasprin 11.10.13 16:29

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Can someone else have a look at this still. I may be wrong but it looks to me as if they've placed the bed alongside sliding wardrobes.

by statsman 11.10.13 16:29

It's beginning to look like this reconstruction will be as much a fiasco as everything else the McCanns have had a a say in but will the papers expose it in the same way as they did with the Barcelona 'investigation' or, will they not because this time it is SY, they'll be mocking?

by Guest 11.10.13 16:35

On seconds/images 8-10 into 'The Mother of All Lies' it seems they're filming into the lobby of Apt 5a, also with lights on inside.

So in just a few takes we have:

1. Not-KH (?) walking to the right (for her) going down, while in PdL the staircase goes to the left;
2. Not-GM (?) closing a sliding door opening/closing to the left, while in PdL it went to the right;
3. Not-GM (?) wrestling with some heavy curtains, trying to close them AFTER closing the sliding door almost completely
4. Lights on the outside; lights on the inside, where in reality there were none

What would be a surprise: if the people in these takes actually are KH & GM, so they can explain to the Crimewatch audience how and why these deviations from the truth came about. They were there then, and they know. They know.

by ShuBob 11.10.13 16:38

From that still in Jeanmonrow's post, with the lighting on the bed presumably coming into the room as the door was open, one wonders how Oldfield didn't spot Maddie but saw the twins and Kate did not immediately see Maddie was not in her bed tease

by suzyjohnson 11.10.13 16:41

KMc 'We're not the ones who have done something wrong here ...........'

Again. Poor KMc. Poor GMc. Everyone's fault but theirs.

by Guest 11.10.13 16:41

tasprin wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Can someone else have a look at this still. I may be wrong but it looks to me as if they've placed the bed alongside sliding wardrobes.

That's two doors with doorknobs, in any case.

And the real brown headboard is gone
And the real coloured cover is gone

And a squeaky clean pillow cover has appeared, added to ditto bedlinen

Also, the light's not right: it's straight on the bed. But there was no lamp directed so straight at the bed; any light on the bed could only have come from outside the childrens bedroom, and would have formed a triangle of light sweeping to the right, discovering -at least- both cots

by morse 11.10.13 16:45

There is NO way I could possibly watch this drivel Monday. It will be strictly a "McCann" production. Containing only McCann facts which are not in the actual Pj files but in their imagination.

There is a new photo of the McSewe*s, taken in Germany- they are holding hands. It is on Joana's site but I am unable to bring it over. I don't know if it is on here or not. dontgetit

All IMO - WOOF WOOF

by tasprin 11.10.13 16:48

Portia wrote:
tasprin wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Can someone else have a look at this still. I may be wrong but it looks to me as if they've placed the bed alongside sliding wardrobes.
Right

That'll be where the abductor was hiding then winkwink

by Guest 11.10.13 16:51

morse wrote:There is NO way I could possibly watch this drivel Monday. It will be strictly a "McCann" production. Containing only McCann facts which are not in the actual Pj files but in their imagination.

There is a new photo of the McSewe*s, taken in Germany- they are holding hands. It is on Joana's site but I am unable to bring it over. I don't know if it is on here or not.

All IMO - WOOF WOOFIt is actually in Birmingham UK...................

It is actually in Birmingham UK.............

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Rudi Cerne, host of German Crimewatch show (left) and McCanns (right)

meet in Birmingham (UK) | ZDF/Ollie Upton

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by GRACEFUL1 11.10.13 16:52

morse wrote:There is NO way I could possibly watch this drivel Monday. It will be strictly a "McCann" production. Containing only McCann facts which are not in the actual Pj files but in their imagination.

There is a new photo of the McSewe*s, taken in Germany- they are holding hands. It is on Joana's site but I am unable to bring it over. I don't know if it is on here or not.

All IMO - WOOF WOOF

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