Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

lj wrote:Very hopefull ???? 

from; the latest news:

According to what DN found, the PJ has not yet received the letter of request and only after knowing what the British police wish to clarify can they establish the means that will be necessary to support the detectives of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS). According to the MPS "it was requested that a small number of British investigators would be present in Portugal to follow these inquiries." According to sources that are monitoring the case, this request has not yet been formalized to the National Directorate of the PJ, but it can happen anytime.

Seems a lot still has to happen before even this investigation can start.

And for the life of me I cannot understand why some think that, if you don't believe the SY investigation is a very crafty game to fool and catch the McCanns, you don't want justice for Madeleine. Being sceptical is not only everyone's right, it is justified after all the red herrings, hot air balloons etc etc that were launched since this all happened.

So Marconi, when do you think this big revelation will take place?

marconi wrote:Of course the whole agreement was made far  before Theresa sent her letter to Portugal.
I even believe  it was  already ready in May, who  knows in April.
The Yard is always many steps before us and they have to be.
I also believe that the McCanns knew already about the investigation at the begin of May.
That would explain a terrible photo of both, especially of Gerry's, on a paper, at a public place, I think praying.
And it would explain Kate's disappearance too.

Which one of you could tell me where to find that photo?  Was it on a paper from Rothley?

marconi wrote:

lj wrote:Very hopefull ???? 

from; the latest news:

According to what DN found, the PJ has not yet received the letter of request and only after knowing what the British police wish to clarify can they establish the means that will be necessary to support the detectives of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS). According to the MPS "it was requested that a small number of British investigators would be present in Portugal to follow these inquiries." According to sources that are monitoring the case, this request has not yet been formalized to the National Directorate of the PJ, but it can happen anytime.

Seems a lot still has to happen before even this investigation can start.

And for the life of me I cannot understand why some think that, if you don't believe the SY investigation is a very crafty game to fool and catch the McCanns, you don't want justice for Madeleine. Being sceptical is not only everyone's right, it is justified after all the red herrings, hot air balloons etc etc that were launched since this all happened.

So Marconi, when do you think this big revelation will take place?

 lj, is being pessimist the aim of your life?

The big revelation will take place very soon. And even if the case gets solved, you will find a way to crash it.

lj wrote:

marconi wrote:

lj wrote:Very hopefull ???? 

from; the latest news:

According to what DN found, the PJ has not yet received the letter of request and only after knowing what the British police wish to clarify can they establish the means that will be necessary to support the detectives of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS). According to the MPS "it was requested that a small number of British investigators would be present in Portugal to follow these inquiries." According to sources that are monitoring the case, this request has not yet been formalized to the National Directorate of the PJ, but it can happen anytime.

Seems a lot still has to happen before even this investigation can start.

And for the life of me I cannot understand why some think that, if you don't believe the SY investigation is a very crafty game to fool and catch the McCanns, you don't want justice for Madeleine. Being sceptical is not only everyone's right, it is justified after all the red herrings, hot air balloons etc etc that were launched since this all happened.

So Marconi, when do you think this big revelation will take place?

 lj, is being pessimist the aim of your life?

The big revelation will take place very soon. And even if the case gets solved, you will find a way to crash it.

My search for the truth in life has made me a realist, not a pessimist.
I do want the case to be solved. I don't think that will come from the current SY investigation.

I'll make you 2 promises: if the SY indeed solves the case, not by getting a Hewlett patsy, but a real believable solution I will apologize.

The other promise will be harder to keep: if I get it right I won't say "I told you so".

Again I have the right to my opinion, and I have the right to post that here. So maybe you can stop making it personal.

lj wrote:

marconi wrote:

lj wrote:Very hopefull ???? 

from; the latest news:

According to what DN found, the PJ has not yet received the letter of request and only after knowing what the British police wish to clarify can they establish the means that will be necessary to support the detectives of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS). According to the MPS "it was requested that a small number of British investigators would be present in Portugal to follow these inquiries." According to sources that are monitoring the case, this request has not yet been formalized to the National Directorate of the PJ, but it can happen anytime.

Seems a lot still has to happen before even this investigation can start.

And for the life of me I cannot understand why some think that, if you don't believe the SY investigation is a very crafty game to fool and catch the McCanns, you don't want justice for Madeleine. Being sceptical is not only everyone's right, it is justified after all the red herrings, hot air balloons etc etc that were launched since this all happened.

So Marconi, when do you think this big revelation will take place?

 lj, is being pessimist the aim of your life?

The big revelation will take place very soon. And even if the case gets solved, you will find a way to crash it.

My search for the truth in life has made me a realist, not a pessimist.
I do want the case to be solved. I don't think that will come from the current SY investigation.

I'll make you 2 promises: if the SY indeed solves the case, not by getting a Hewlett patsy, but a real believable solution I will apologize.

The other promise will be harder to keep: if I get it right I won't say "I told you so".

Again I have the right to my opinion, and I have the right to post that here. So maybe you can stop making it personal.

marconi wrote:

lj wrote:

marconi wrote:

lj wrote:Very hopefull ???? 

from; the latest news:

According to what DN found, the PJ has not yet received the letter of request and only after knowing what the British police wish to clarify can they establish the means that will be necessary to support the detectives of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS). According to the MPS "it was requested that a small number of British investigators would be present in Portugal to follow these inquiries." According to sources that are monitoring the case, this request has not yet been formalized to the National Directorate of the PJ, but it can happen anytime.

Seems a lot still has to happen before even this investigation can start.

And for the life of me I cannot understand why some think that, if you don't believe the SY investigation is a very crafty game to fool and catch the McCanns, you don't want justice for Madeleine. Being sceptical is not only everyone's right, it is justified after all the red herrings, hot air balloons etc etc that were launched since this all happened.

So Marconi, when do you think this big revelation will take place?

 lj, is being pessimist the aim of your life?

The big revelation will take place very soon. And even if the case gets solved, you will find a way to crash it.

My search for the truth in life has made me a realist, not a pessimist.
I do want the case to be solved. I don't think that will come from the current SY investigation.

I'll make you 2 promises: if the SY indeed solves the case, not by getting a Hewlett patsy, but a real believable solution I will apologize.

The other promise will be harder to keep: if I get it right I won't say "I told you so".

Again I have the right to my opinion, and I have the right to post that here. So maybe you can stop making it personal.

you don't have to aplogize, lj.
it is ok.

tigger wrote:@marconi

I don 't think lj was apologising.

Lj pointed out that  she has the right to her opinion and requested that you stop making it personal. 

Your answer implies  that lj was in the wrong and you are graciously waiving her need to apologise.
This is clearly not the case. 

This is a forum for discussion with many well informed members who are keeping a grave miscarriage of justice in the public domain.

russiandoll wrote:from " The People" newspaper, 8 August 2013 :
"I think the information that came in early on is probably the most important," says Gerry. "You never know where it will lead." Like the statements about the shutter, windows, curtains and window of opportunity, for example ?
"All we know is that at the very least they are eliminating things," he says, Eliminating 38 lines of enquiry, as being of no further interest ? "and there are some very good lines of inquiry. So you have got to explore them."[/b] There are indeed. VERY good lines of enquiry. And let us all hope they are fully explored, as they have not been thus far.

PeterMac wrote:

russiandoll wrote:from " The People" newspaper, 8 August 2013 :
"I think the information that came in early on is probably the most important," says Gerry. "You never know where it will lead."   Like the statements about the shutter, windows, curtains and window of opportunity, for example ?
"All we know is that at the very least they are eliminating things," he says,  Eliminating 38  lines of enquiry, as being of no further interest ? "and there are some very good lines of inquiry. So you have got to explore them."[/b]   There are indeed.  VERY good lines of enquiry.   And let us all hope they are fully explored, as they have not been thus far.

marconi wrote:I believe the breakthrough is about to happen and it will come from Algarve. From somebody who took part in the disappearance, helping hiding the body.Or at least knowing where the body is.
When it happens in Algarve, arrests will be made in the UK too.
 And there is also the possiblity that new witnesses evidence is coming from Tapas 7, that prefers being  witnesses than  suspects.
They must be fed up of helping the McCanns.

comperedna5 wrote:Who?What?Where?... I do not believe Cameron has any reason to block a genuine solution to what happened to MBM. It is NOT in his interests to do so... in fact the very reverse. If the case is cleared up on his watch he will gain kudos from it. The more complicated this whole situation is made, the less likely the true solution will be arrived at. I may not agree at all with Cameron's politics: he is in fact our own constituency MP as well as PM, but as a person I have very good reason to know that he is not corrupt or despicable, and he would have to be so to deliberately falsify what happened if the truth can be discerned.

PeterMac wrote:

marconi wrote:I believe the breakthrough is about to happen and it will come from Algarve. From somebody who took part in the disappearance, helping hiding the body.Or at least knowing where the body is.
When it happens in Algarve, arrests will be made in the UK too.
 And there is also the possiblity that new witnesses evidence is coming from Tapas 7, that prefers being  witnesses than  suspects.
They must be fed up of helping the McCanns.

I hope you are right, but do you have anything more than just a 'belief' to go on.  Have you spotted other signs ?

russiandoll wrote:from " The People" newspaper, 8 August 2013 :


   As Scotland Yard investigators prepare to head to Portugal to take the next step in their investigation of Madeleine McCann's disappearance, her father says he is grateful for the work they've already done.

"We have been incredibly fortunate in the last two years to have the Metropolitan Police reviewing the case and now actively investigating," McCann told PEOPLE July 28, shortly after finishing the Virgin Active London Triathlon to raise money for the charity Missing People.

"It is very unlikely that someone is just going to walk up and say, 'Here she is,' " he says. "So you have got to chase it."

"That has been important," he says, "and it is important that we are still looking and that there is now an active investigation, which is great."

On July 4, Scotland Yard detectives announced they believe Madeleine, who was three years old when she vanished from a Portuguese resort in May 2007, could still be alive. They said they have 38 possible suspects in five different countries.

In May 2011, after years of pressure from the McCanns, Prime Minister David Cameron ordered London's Metropolitan Police to review the case, which had been closed by Portuguese police in July 2008.

"I think the information that came in early on is probably the most important," says Gerry. "You never know where it will lead."

"All we know is that at the very least they are eliminating things," he says, "and there are some very good lines of inquiry. So you have got to explore them."

Hobs wrote:
Interesting Post. Some snipped bits
I think if someone is prepared to listen to her, to ask the right questions, to not interrupt, to be  the shoulder to cry on, she will tell the truth.
She will say what really happened that week.
. . .
If she is offered protection from gerry, perhaps even a plea deal she will talk.
. . .
 if they are separated and kate feels safe from him then she may well start talking.
their relationship is toxic, .

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Have no fear - Mark Williams-Thomas is on the case!!

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candyfloss wrote:You now have to subscribe to read the Sun.....   There is an article today which I cannot read accept for 2 lines....


Snared...fiend ‘let off’ by Maddie row cops



A FUGITIVE Brit sex offender was allowed to remain free by Portuguese cops — in a row over the Madeleine McCann probe.
Pervert Nigel Burnell had been on the run for three years after being convicted of serious

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