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Absolutely Peter. There is definitely a way out, but I wouldn’t want to wait to see what the others do there won’t be any deals or understanding left on the table by then. If they thought they were covering up an accident they have to assist the investigation, to sit and wait haunted by worry about what will happen when it all goes tits up as it inevitably will is the alternative and by then there will be no deals on the table. All that will remain will be the finger of accusation and a justice system with little mercy. Their fate really does lie in their own hands now for very shortly we could see free for all of people trying to grab a slice of that Armstrong pie.PeterMac wrote:I certainly hope so. They deserve to have been.monkey mind wrote:They must have been very worried people these five years and more. Very worried indeed....
And if they are reading - there is a way out.
Do an "Armstrong".
Trust people to understand, and you may even gain some sympathy for the position in which you were placed.
You will sleep better for it.
First come best served.
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Good comment on Joana`s blog by poster No. 23 ....
"Reconstruction - shouldn`t that be Reconstructions? For a start there`s three different versions of the time-line ............"
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/01/scotland-yard-in-porto-for-maddie.html?showComment=1358851227851#c930647350887543694
"Reconstruction - shouldn`t that be Reconstructions? For a start there`s three different versions of the time-line ............"
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/01/scotland-yard-in-porto-for-maddie.html?showComment=1358851227851#c930647350887543694
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another interesting quote from Blacksmith
I had thought to ask the question, would this be the thing that allowed the knot of gold cord to be undone, the box to be opened and the letting out of all evil. But that I cannot do, for evil already walks among us, that evil is Kate and Gerry McCann, and must be said, their acolytes, we must never forget them.
I had thought to ask the question, would this be the thing that allowed the knot of gold cord to be undone, the box to be opened and the letting out of all evil. But that I cannot do, for evil already walks among us, that evil is Kate and Gerry McCann, and must be said, their acolytes, we must never forget them.
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Not Smedhurst. Tudor than maybe?
Just asking.
Just asking.
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Woofer wrote:Good comment on Joana`s blog by poster No. 23 ....
"Reconstruction - shouldn`t that be Reconstructions? For a start there`s three different versions of the time-line ............"
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/01/scotland-yard-in-porto-for-maddie.html?showComment=1358851227851#c930647350887543694
One is enough for the purpose.
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monkey mind wrote:Absolutely Peter. There is definitely a way out, but I wouldn’t want to wait to see what the others do there won’t be any deals or understanding left on the table by then. If they thought they were covering up an accident they have to assist the investigation, to sit and wait haunted by worry about what will happen when it all goes tits up as it inevitably will is the alternative and by then there will be no deals on the table. All that will remain will be the finger of accusation and a justice system with little mercy. Their fate really does lie in their own hands now for very shortly we could see free for all of people trying to grab a slice of that Armstrong pie.PeterMac wrote:I certainly hope so. They deserve to have been.monkey mind wrote:They must have been very worried people these five years and more. Very worried indeed....
And if they are reading - there is a way out.
Do an "Armstrong".
Trust people to understand, and you may even gain some sympathy for the position in which you were placed.
You will sleep better for it.
First come best served.
Sure, they're worried. It's written all over their face, eaten alive inside by guilt.
Maybe they will do an "Armstrong" but not before they are arrested and charged, then that might follow (hopefully) - good to free the trapped soul.
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Just a reminder of what the Mccanns wrote about taking Amaral to court as written on their website
16 May 2009: Kate and Gerry McCann and their children to sue Goncalo Amaral
Kate and Gerry McCann - together with their three children - are to sue the former Portuguese police officer Goncalo Amaral over his continuing, grossly defamatory claims that Madeleine is dead and that her parents were somehow involved in concealing their own daughter's body.
In a statement, Kate and Gerry McCann said: "We - together with our three children Madeleine, Sean and Amelie - are taking this legal action against Goncalo Amaral over his entirely unfounded and grossly defamatory claims - made in all types of media, both within Portugal and beyond - that Madeleine is not only dead, but that we, her parents, were somehow involved in concealing her body.
"This decision has been taken to prevent any further publication of Goncalo Amaral's deeply offensive book "The Truth Of The Lie", his so-called television 'documentary' and any repetition of his disgraceful thesis that we are somehow involved in the disappearance of our much loved daughter, Madeleine.
"The primary reason for our legal action is simple: to stop any negative effect that these absurd and deeply hurtful claims may be having on the ongoing search for Madeleine. We can no longer stand back and watch as Mr Amaral tries to convince the entire world that Madeleine is dead. Nor can we allow this blatant injustice to Madeleine, with its obvious risk of hindering our attempts to find her, to continue.
"Mr. Amaral's entirely unjustified claims have not only brought indescribable devastation and suffering to our lives, they have hugely compounded the already immense pain and anxiety we have endured since Madeleine's abduction.
"Our three children are joint complainants in this action because of the detrimental effect Mr Amaral's continued assertions will undoubtedly have on their future lives. Sean and Amelie require protection as they prepare to start school this autumn. Madeleine requires protection from those who are obstructing the possibility of her being found."
http://www.findmadeleine.com/updates/updates@page=3.html
16 May 2009: Kate and Gerry McCann and their children to sue Goncalo Amaral
Kate and Gerry McCann - together with their three children - are to sue the former Portuguese police officer Goncalo Amaral over his continuing, grossly defamatory claims that Madeleine is dead and that her parents were somehow involved in concealing their own daughter's body.
In a statement, Kate and Gerry McCann said: "We - together with our three children Madeleine, Sean and Amelie - are taking this legal action against Goncalo Amaral over his entirely unfounded and grossly defamatory claims - made in all types of media, both within Portugal and beyond - that Madeleine is not only dead, but that we, her parents, were somehow involved in concealing her body.
"This decision has been taken to prevent any further publication of Goncalo Amaral's deeply offensive book "The Truth Of The Lie", his so-called television 'documentary' and any repetition of his disgraceful thesis that we are somehow involved in the disappearance of our much loved daughter, Madeleine.
"The primary reason for our legal action is simple: to stop any negative effect that these absurd and deeply hurtful claims may be having on the ongoing search for Madeleine. We can no longer stand back and watch as Mr Amaral tries to convince the entire world that Madeleine is dead. Nor can we allow this blatant injustice to Madeleine, with its obvious risk of hindering our attempts to find her, to continue.
"Mr. Amaral's entirely unjustified claims have not only brought indescribable devastation and suffering to our lives, they have hugely compounded the already immense pain and anxiety we have endured since Madeleine's abduction.
"Our three children are joint complainants in this action because of the detrimental effect Mr Amaral's continued assertions will undoubtedly have on their future lives. Sean and Amelie require protection as they prepare to start school this autumn. Madeleine requires protection from those who are obstructing the possibility of her being found."
http://www.findmadeleine.com/updates/updates@page=3.html
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The very last sentence jumps out at me.
She certainly does, Kate!!
Is it possible to sue oneself?
She certainly does, Kate!!
Is it possible to sue oneself?
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Jean wrote:The very last sentence jumps out at me.
She certainly does, Kate!!
Is it possible to sue oneself?
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Moa wrote:Just a reminder of what the Mccanns wrote about taking Amaral to court as written on their website
16 May 2009: Kate and Gerry McCann and their children to sue Goncalo Amaral
Kate and Gerry McCann - together with their three children - are to sue the former Portuguese police officer Goncalo Amaral over his continuing, grossly defamatory claims that Madeleine is dead and that her parents were somehow involved in concealing their own daughter's body.
In a statement, Kate and Gerry McCann said: "We - together with our three children Madeleine, Sean and Amelie - are taking this legal action against Goncalo Amaral over his entirely unfounded and grossly defamatory claims - made in all types of media, both within Portugal and beyond - that Madeleine is not only dead, but that we, her parents, were somehow involved in concealing her body.
Goncalo Amarals claims were founded on evidence - the McCanns claims that Madeleine was abducted by a paedophile and now perhaps living happily with a family are totally unfounded
"This decision has been taken to prevent any further publication of Goncalo Amaral's deeply offensive book "The Truth Of The Lie", his so-called television 'documentary' and any repetition of his disgraceful thesis that we are somehow involved in the disappearance of our much loved daughter, Madeleine.
"The primary reason for our legal action is simple: to stop any negative effect that these absurd and deeply hurtful claims may be having on the ongoing search for Madeleine. We can no longer stand back and watch as Mr Amaral tries to convince the entire world that Madeleine is dead. Nor can we allow this blatant injustice to Madeleine, with its obvious risk of hindering our attempts to find her, to continue.
No, course the McCanns couldn't stand back and do nothing, that could of impacted on the donations to the so called fund
"Mr. Amaral's entirely unjustified claims have not only brought indescribable devastation and suffering to our lives, they have hugely compounded the already immense pain and anxiety we have endured since Madeleine's abduction.
If Madeleine was abducted the McCanns were the ones who brought "indescribable devastation and suffering" to their lives by their selfish actions
"Our three children are joint complainants in this action because of the detrimental effect Mr Amaral's continued assertions will undoubtedly have on their future lives. Sean and Amelie require protection as they prepare to start school this autumn. Madeleine requires protection from those who are obstructing the possibility of her being found."Where was the protection the children needed while they were both out eating and drinking, leaving their children alone in an apartment. Madeleine required protection on the holiday but they both failed to provide it. The McCanns and the Tapas 7 obstructed the possibility of finding Madeleine by failing to call the police as soon as they found her missing (allegedly) and then Kate failing to answer all questions put to her by the PJ, failing to do a reconstruction...the list of obstructions by the McCanns is endless.
http://www.findmadeleine.com/updates/updates@page=3.html
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Moa wrote:Just a reminder of what the Mccanns wrote about taking Amaral to court as written on their website
16 May 2009: Kate and Gerry McCann and their children to sue Goncalo Amaral
Kate and Gerry McCann - together with their three children - are to sue the former Portuguese police officer Goncalo Amaral over his continuing, grossly defamatory claims that Madeleine is dead and that her parents were somehow involved in concealing their own daughter's body.
In a statement, Kate and Gerry McCann said: "We - together with our three children Madeleine, Sean and Amelie - are taking this legal action against Goncalo Amaral over his entirely unfounded and grossly defamatory claims - made in all types of media, both within Portugal and beyond - that Madeleine is not only dead, but that we, her parents, were somehow involved in concealing her body.
"This decision has been taken to prevent any further publication of Goncalo Amaral's deeply offensive book "The Truth Of The Lie", his so-called television 'documentary' and any repetition of his disgraceful thesis that we are somehow involved in the disappearance of our much loved daughter, Madeleine.
"The primary reason for our legal action is simple: to stop any negative effect that these absurd and deeply hurtful claims may be having on the ongoing search for Madeleine. We can no longer stand back and watch as Mr Amaral tries to convince the entire world that Madeleine is dead. Nor can we allow this blatant injustice to Madeleine, with its obvious risk of hindering our attempts to find her, to continue.
"Mr. Amaral's entirely unjustified claims have not only brought indescribable devastation and suffering to our lives, they have hugely compounded the already immense pain and anxiety we have endured since Madeleine's abduction.
"Our three children are joint complainants in this action because of the detrimental effect Mr Amaral's continued assertions will undoubtedly have on their future lives. Sean and Amelie require protection as they prepare to start school this autumn. Madeleine requires protection from those who are obstructing the possibility of her being found."
http://www.findmadeleine.com/updates/updates@page=3.html
So given that they had his assets frozen at that time they will have known what resources he had to meet their libel demand and given that those assets still remain frozen now, how does the pro's justification for the Mccann's abandoning the suit on cost grounds make any sense?
There's no mention here they will sue him dependent on cost and there's also no mention of this being a monetary issue for them.
So to launch action knowing he had 300,000 euros then and that’s still frozen and sat there today how could the cost of action against potential assets gained if they won be a justification for them to enter into negotiations a week before the trial begins citing extortionate costs and Amaral's lack of assets?
They knew precisely what he had when they sued him and they will have known approximately what the costs would have been.
Had cost been a valid reason now it would have been equally valid and indeed the same when they launched the suit.
Monetary wise, both in terms of costs and Amaral's assets nothing has changed.
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just seen this on twitter.
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Hernani Carvalho on Querida Julia today, talked about trial GA vs #McCann Confirmed it was McCanns who asked for an out of court settlement.
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Hernani Carvalho on Querida Julia today, talked about trial GA vs #McCann Confirmed it was McCanns who asked for an out of court settlement.
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tiny wrote:just seen this on twitter.
Dr David Payne ™@DodgyDrPayne
Hernani Carvalho on Querida Julia today, talked about trial GA vs #McCann Confirmed it was McCanns who asked for an out of court settlement.
And we are not surprised :) Wonder what the "other side" has to say about that :)
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Moa wrote:tiny wrote:just seen this on twitter.
Dr David Payne ™@DodgyDrPayne
Hernani Carvalho on Querida Julia today, talked about trial GA vs #McCann Confirmed it was McCanns who asked for an out of court settlement.
And we are not surprised :) Wonder what the "other side" has to say about that :)
So he didn't say that the McCanns had caved in, he said they were seeking an out of court settlement. Seeking an out of court settlement is not abandoning the case it is what it says "seeking a settlement". I wonder what demands they will make on Amaral.
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ed1976 wrote:Moa wrote:tiny wrote:just seen this on twitter.
Dr David Payne ™@DodgyDrPayne
Hernani Carvalho on Querida Julia today, talked about trial GA vs #McCann Confirmed it was McCanns who asked for an out of court settlement.
And we are not surprised :) Wonder what the "other side" has to say about that :)
So he didn't say that the McCanns had caved in, he said they were seeking an out of court settlement. Seeking an out of court settlement is not abandoning the case it is what it says "seeking a settlement". I wonder what demands they will make on Amaral.
I wouldn't of thought the McCanns are in a position to make any demands as they want to settle out of court, avoiding a court case...why? I think GA will be calling the shots.
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@ ed1976 Just face facts,the mccanns bottled it,like they will do with tony,they cant face going to court just in case they have to answer a few questions,they are not in any position to call any shots
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tiny wrote:@ ed1976 Just face facts,the mccanns bottled it,like they will do with tony,they cant face going to court just in case they have to answer a few questions,they are not in any position to call any shots
I don't think there are enough facts to face at the moment but I am pleasantly surprised that we are starting to hear some information. You say they will bottle it with Tony, I disagree and hopefully we will soon see who is right
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tiny wrote:@ ed1976 Just face facts,the mccanns bottled it,like they will do with tony,they cant face going to court just in case they have to answer a few questions,they are not in any position to call any shots
I don't think there are enough facts to face at the moment but I am pleasantly surprised that we are starting to hear some information. You say they will bottle it with Tony, I disagree and hopefully we will soon see who is right
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tiny wrote:@ ed1976 Just face facts,the mccanns bottled it,like they will do with tony,they cant face going to court just in case they have to answer a few questions,they are not in any position to call any shots
I don't think there are enough facts to face at the moment but I am pleasantly surprised that we are starting to hear some information. You say they will bottle it with Tony, I disagree and hopefully we will soon see who is right
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Right on cue again ed.
If anyone instigates a libel trial then they must be pretty sure they can win, I think you would agree with that. So why would you ask for a settlement if you thought you could win??
If anyone instigates a libel trial then they must be pretty sure they can win, I think you would agree with that. So why would you ask for a settlement if you thought you could win??
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candyfloss wrote:Right on cue again ed.
If anyone instigates a libel trial then they must be pretty sure they can win, I think you would agree with that. So why would you ask for a settlement if you thought you could win??
There could be many reasons and it is pointless speculating as we have so little information.
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ed1976 wrote:candyfloss wrote:Right on cue again ed.
If anyone instigates a libel trial then they must be pretty sure they can win, I think you would agree with that. So why would you ask for a settlement if you thought you could win??
There could be many reasons and it is pointless speculating as we have so little information.
Go on, give us a few.
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I know why the Beckhams bottled it/caved in against the now defunct NoTW- the latter announced they were to call Rebecca Loos as a defence witness
What has this got to do with this case, one may ask. Well, it shows why a complainant may bottle it/cave in and end up paying the defendant
What has this got to do with this case, one may ask. Well, it shows why a complainant may bottle it/cave in and end up paying the defendant
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candyfloss wrote:ed1976 wrote:candyfloss wrote:Right on cue again ed.
If anyone instigates a libel trial then they must be pretty sure they can win, I think you would agree with that. So why would you ask for a settlement if you thought you could win??
There could be many reasons and it is pointless speculating as we have so little information.
Go on, give us a few.
Amaral is a broken man.
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ShuBob wrote:I know why the Beckhams bottled it/caved in against the now defunct NoTW- the latter announced they were to call Rebecca Loos as a defence witness
What has this got to do with this case, one may ask. Well, it shows why a complainant may bottle it/cave in and end up paying the defendant
Yes, this is one reason. But try thinking laterally, there are many.
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ed1976 wrote:candyfloss wrote:ed1976 wrote:candyfloss wrote:Right on cue again ed.
If anyone instigates a libel trial then they must be pretty sure they can win, I think you would agree with that. So why would you ask for a settlement if you thought you could win??
There could be many reasons and it is pointless speculating as we have so little information.
Go on, give us a few.
Amaral is a broken man.
Really, links please. If we were in court I think we would hear:
Objection.........speculation.
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candyfloss wrote:ed1976 wrote:candyfloss wrote:ed1976 wrote:candyfloss wrote:Right on cue again ed.
If anyone instigates a libel trial then they must be pretty sure they can win, I think you would agree with that. So why would you ask for a settlement if you thought you could win??
There could be many reasons and it is pointless speculating as we have so little information.
Go on, give us a few.
Amaral is a broken man.
Really, links please. If we were in court I think we would hear:
Objection.........speculation.
Body language, ask anyone on this forum it's a foolproof way of assessing state of mind.
Amaral has spent a lot of time in court. The McCanns, The lawyer from Madeira whose name escapes me. his criminal case, I believe he has been sued by his brother for fraud and of course his divorce.
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New blog from Blacksmith........
Wednesday, 23 January 2013
New blog uncovered
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.de/2013/01/new-blog-uncovered.html
Wednesday, 23 January 2013
New blog uncovered
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.de/2013/01/new-blog-uncovered.html
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