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Thursday, 17 January 2013
Libel diary–Thursday morning January 17

John Blacksmith writes: I've experienced plenty of shocking events in my time and survived encounters with a number of monsters but I'm willing to confess that I read Kate McCann's Madeleine with something approaching horror.

The stormy and unpredictable violence of her personality, her inability to conceive of anyone's needs beyond her own, her failure ever to write about, or confront the memory of, her oldest child as a real human being, confining herself instead to recalling and describing photographs and images of her daughter in a pattern of clinical aberration, were troubling enough. Then there was the extraordinary risk she was taking in setting out a version of events that people close to her, particularly her Portuguese lawyer and his assistant, knew to be untrue. What, I wondered, was she thinking as she sat alone at her desktop, somehow constructing a narrative on several different levels at once, addressing simultaneously the police who she knew would be reading her book, her seven friends and her family who had seen a very different Kate McCann, the journalists who she had used to subvert the investigation so successfully and, finally, the "public" itself? Perhaps she'd convinced herself that the latter, whose support in the UK had carried her through so many dangerous passages, was the only one that mattered and would continue to keep her impregnable and wrote accordingly. Even creepier was the sense that one gets from certain Nabokov books, including Lolita – the feeling that at times you can hear a ghostly voice hidden somewhere behind the narrative, laughing at the challenge of deceiving the audience.

For the book reveals that Kate McCann is quite mad. That was why I softened the end of the review I wrote for the McCann Files: the exposure of her madness was so raw and discomfiting that it made me pause at the impact my own writings might have on what passes publicly for her personality if she read them.

Sympathy for a sick person might be in order then. Except.

Except for her ruthlessness in her own interests illustrated by the psychotic pursuit of Goncalo Amaral in which she used everything she had, the wealth her public fans had provided, the support and sympathy of people who believed in her, the dirty newspapers like the Mirror willing to collude in the plot and the unrelenting viciousness at her core, to destroy him. "Destroy", for once, means what it says. As does "Kafkaesque". The assault that she and her tight-mouthed accomplice sprang on Amaral, the nightmare in which they trapped him and the relentless way they upped the pursuit month by month could easily have driven a lesser man to suicide.

While Kate McCann was whining to the UK media at the unfair fate she had suffered, I was hearing how her campaign had claimed its first victim – Amaral's wife having a complete breakdown and telling her beleaguered husband that even if he was right she simply couldn't stand the terror of it any more: both the pain and the odds against them were too great, he had to seek out the McCanns and settle. She was an innocent victim in the way the whiner never was but that cut no ice with Kate McCann: she was just an object to be trodden on and squashed in her pursuit of her enemy.

That pursuit has failed. The McCanns are going to settle on Amaral's terms and that means it's the beginning of the end of six years of lies and deception. No, I can't evoke even a touch of sympathy for them: they have acted wickedly and now they are going to pay.

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[quote Blacksmith]

That pursuit has failed. The McCanns are going to settle on Amaral's terms and that means it's the beginning of the end of six years of lies and deception. No, I can't evoke even a touch of sympathy for them: they have acted wickedly and now they are going to pay.



What's all this then? I have read on MM he did a blog yesterday 'Rumours, what rumours' saying the trial would not take place.



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candyfloss wrote:[quote Blacksmith]

That pursuit has failed. The McCanns are going to settle on Amaral's terms and that means it's the beginning of the end of six years of lies and deception. No, I can't evoke even a touch of sympathy for them: they have acted wickedly and now they are going to pay.



What's all this then? I have read on MM he did a blog yesterday 'Rumours, what rumours' saying the trial would not take place.



Good to see you back Me, and thanks for posting.

Hi Candy. I take this and the cryptic posting yesterday to mean he has some inside track in Portugal either with the media or indeed GA's people and they have told him that the McCann's will settle on Amaral's terms.

If true, i think it is very significant news.

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Post by tiny 17.01.13 13:39

Is blacksmith coldwater by any chance?so having just read kates book he realizes she,s mad,havent we all been saying this for the last 6 yrs.take what blacksmith says with a pinch of salt
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tiny wrote:Is blacksmith coldwater by any chance?so having just read kates book he realizes she,s mad,havent we all been saying this for the last 6 yrs.take what blacksmith says with a pinch of salt

Er no, suggest you read some of his historical posts where BS dissected her book when it first came out.

There has not been a better commentator than BS at taking apart the evidence, the T9's accounts, Kate's book, the libel verdicts in Portugal and provided a general oversight of the media surrounding the case.

Some of his postings are odd but when he's in the zone and on the case there has been no one better than him at nailing it.

I reccomend you visit the McCann files and aquaint yourself.

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Post by aiyoyo 17.01.13 13:57

WHAT! I am not going to fall off my chair over Blacksmith's mumbo jumbo.

Amaral is not in it for money.
So what terms could he possibly want except for them to ask for the reopening, return for the reconstruction, and tell the truth nothing but the whole truth.
Can anyone see the Mccanns agreeing to that? Pig would fly first!

Besides offering to settle on his terms would mean they concede their case against him is vexatious, done in bad faith and they were out to harm and destroy him? Can anyone see the implication of that for them? They can no longer say the Police's thesis was wrong or that no one can repeat it - just imagine!



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tiny wrote:Is blacksmith coldwater by any chance?so having just read kates book he realizes she,s mad,havent we all been saying this for the last 6 yrs.take what blacksmith says with a pinch of salt

Er no, suggest you read some of his historical posts where BS dissected her book when it first came out.

There has not been a better commentator than BS at taking apart the evidence, the T9's accounts, Kate's book, the libel verdicts in Portugal and provided a general oversight of the media surrounding the case.

Some of his postings are odd but when he's in the zone and on the case there has been no one better than him at nailing it.

I reccomend you visit the McCann files and aquaint yourself.
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I have read some of blacksmiths posting and your quite right some are odd,but i still do not believe he knows any more than we do,but thats just my opinion.
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Post by aiyoyo 17.01.13 14:05

Well, just to add, if they were withdrawing their case against Amaral, where the hell do they stand in their case against TB?
They might as well offer to settle with TB at his terms as well all in one go?
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Me wrote:
tiny wrote:Is blacksmith coldwater by any chance?so having just read kates book he realizes she,s mad,havent we all been saying this for the last 6 yrs.take what blacksmith says with a pinch of salt

Er no, suggest you read some of his historical posts where BS dissected her book when it first came out.

There has not been a better commentator than BS at taking apart the evidence, the T9's accounts, Kate's book, the libel verdicts in Portugal and provided a general oversight of the media surrounding the case.

Some of his postings are odd but when he's in the zone and on the case there has been no one better than him at nailing it.

I reccomend you visit the McCann files and aquaint yourself.
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I have read some of blacksmiths posting and your quite right some are odd,but i still do not believe he knows any more than we do,but thats just my opinion.

Well i suggest you read the ones i mention relating to the more forensic dissection of the case, the libel trials and her book.

There is lots of detail in there which shed light on various aspects that the forums haven't picked up on before he did.

It strikes me that this forum holds him in disdain for the recent postings regarding forum members & Tony Bennett in particular.

Whether you agree with what he said about those forum members or not that does not automatically mean his commentary on the case itself is invalid.

Seems there is a fair bit of "he attacked Tony therefore everything else he has said must be rubbish" going on here.

That is silly. You don't have to agree with everythhig he has said to understand that he has provided a fascinating and analyitical insight in details of the case that no one else has.

It is not an all or nothing issue where everything else is disregarded because you don't agree with what he said about TB!

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My opinion of blacksmith has nothing to do with what he said about Tony Bennett,its about its taken him nigh on 6 yrs to realize kate is mad and even more so when he dissected her book when it first came out,like i say its my opinion that blacksmith knows no more than we do just like coldwater who made us believe he new more than he actually did.
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Post by Guest 17.01.13 14:43

The problem I had with him was his apparent opinion that, if people want to have sex with children, then it's nobody else's business. Sometimes his posts are so cryptic that it's difficult to make out what he actually means so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt about that.

I recommend that he dilutes his drinks in future......

His observations on Kate and the ramblings in her porno novel are spot on.
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Post by PeterMac 17.01.13 14:54

And now this one.
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/libel-diary-afternoon-january-17.html

Libel Diary, afternoon January 17
The reason for the rumours we alluded to yesterday is, of course, the desperate straits that good old Team McCann is in. They have no choice but to settle but they believe they can minimise the damage if only they can spin it and muffle it enough to leave them a shred of credibility, though events in Algeria came a little too soon to bury the settlement in the sand. The trouble is that, just as in Lisbon in January 2010, so many people have been enlisted in the salvage effort that it's been impossible to plug the leaks.

The spin you will receive, unless the McCanns decide to change it in the light of what they're reading here, is that funds being low and the needs of the search so great – once it resumes – they are no longer willing to waste money and will let bygones be bygones in order to preserve the fund's assets.

Bullshit.

Duarte has told them that they cannot possibly win. Not only are they not dropping the case to save money but they are even now in negotiations to try and reduce the financial demands being made by Goncalo Amaral's defence team. Every national editor in England is aware of these negotiations but true to their performance since 2008 they aren't saying a word – yet. Not even Kier Simmons, bless him. Anyone want to tweet him for his views about the dreadful rumours from the dreadful ignoramuses of the internet?

And while they have their phones in their hands perhaps they'll tweet Clarence Mitchell to ask if he still believes he has a future in the Tory party and how he feels about Amaral's intended pursuit – of him. Go on, ask him.

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PeterMac wrote:And now this one.
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/libel-diary-afternoon-january-17.html

Libel Diary, afternoon January 17
The reason for the rumours we alluded to yesterday is, of course, the desperate straits that good old Team McCann is in. They have no choice but to settle but they believe they can minimise the damage if only they can spin it and muffle it enough to leave them a shred of credibility, though events in Algeria came a little too soon to bury the settlement in the sand. The trouble is that, just as in Lisbon in January 2010, so many people have been enlisted in the salvage effort that it's been impossible to plug the leaks.

The spin you will receive, unless the McCanns decide to change it in the light of what they're reading here, is that funds being low and the needs of the search so great – once it resumes – they are no longer willing to waste money and will let bygones be bygones in order to preserve the fund's assets.

Bullshit.

Duarte has told them that they cannot possibly win. Not only are they not dropping the case to save money but they are even now in negotiations to try and reduce the financial demands being made by Goncalo Amaral's defence team. Every national editor in England is aware of these negotiations but true to their performance since 2008 they aren't saying a word – yet. Not even Kier Simmons, bless him. Anyone want to tweet him for his views about the dreadful rumours from the dreadful ignoramuses of the internet?

And while they have their phones in their hands perhaps they'll tweet Clarence Mitchell to ask if he still believes he has a future in the Tory party and how he feels about Amaral's intended pursuit – of him. Go on, ask him.




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Post by aiyoyo 17.01.13 15:12

The spin you will receive, unless the McCanns decide to change it in the light of what they're reading here, is that funds being low and the needs of the search so great – once it resumes – they are no longer willing to waste money and will let bygones be bygones in order to preserve the fund's assets.

What search, when will it resume?
Why did they suspend it in the first place? Did they not think Maddie can be found during the duration of Review?
As if Redwood's team is physically searching for her! They are not, they are examining papers, and wont find her amongst papers that is for sure.
If she cant be found during the Review period, what made them think she is findable once the review is over?
What a load of drivels!

I hope team Amaral asks for 5x the amount they claimed against him for all the hellish years they put him and his family through, and to have enough to sue Clarence Mitchell off his pants. UK lawyers don't come cheap. I hope he sets as part of his term the Mccanns & Co return to Portugal for the reconstruction.




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Post by ShuBob 17.01.13 15:13

PeterMac wrote:And now this one.
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/libel-diary-afternoon-january-17.html

Libel Diary, afternoon January 17
The reason for the rumours we alluded to yesterday is, of course, the desperate straits that good old Team McCann is in. They have no choice but to settle but they believe they can minimise the damage if only they can spin it and muffle it enough to leave them a shred of credibility, though events in Algeria came a little too soon to bury the settlement in the sand. The trouble is that, just as in Lisbon in January 2010, so many people have been enlisted in the salvage effort that it's been impossible to plug the leaks.

The spin you will receive, unless the McCanns decide to change it in the light of what they're reading here, is that funds being low and the needs of the search so great – once it resumes – they are no longer willing to waste money and will let bygones be bygones in order to preserve the fund's assets.

Bullshit.

Duarte has told them that they cannot possibly win. Not only are they not dropping the case to save money but they are even now in negotiations to try and reduce the financial demands being made by Goncalo Amaral's defence team. Every national editor in England is aware of these negotiations but true to their performance since 2008 they aren't saying a word – yet. Not even Kier Simmons, bless him. Anyone want to tweet him for his views about the dreadful rumours from the dreadful ignoramuses of the internet?

And while they have their phones in their hands perhaps they'll tweet Clarence Mitchell to ask if he still believes he has a future in the Tory party and how he feels about Amaral's intended pursuit – of him. Go on, ask him.


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aiyoyo wrote:
The spin you will receive, unless the McCanns decide to change it in the light of what they're reading here, is that funds being low and the needs of the search so great – once it resumes – they are no longer willing to waste money and will let bygones be bygones in order to preserve the fund's assets.

What search, when will it resume?
Why did they suspend it in the first place? Did they not think Maddie can be found during the duration of Review?
As if Redwood's team is physically searching for her! They are not, they are examining papers, and wont find her amongst papers that is for sure.
If she cant be found during the Review period, what made them think she is findable once the review is over?
What a load of drivels!



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Post by ufercoffy 17.01.13 15:16

PeterMac wrote:And now this one.
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/libel-diary-afternoon-january-17.html

And while they have their phones in their hands perhaps they'll tweet Clarence Mitchell to ask if he still believes he has a future in the Tory party and how he feels about Amaral's intended pursuit – of him. Go on, ask him.

I hope Amaral does intend to pursue, not just Clarence but, ALL the b*****ds who have damaged him and his family.

And then make those McCann creatures squirm so much that they BEG for the investigation to be reopened.

That's the least they can do for their trademarked daughter who they turned into a limited company then used her ruthlessly as a marketing ploy to get rich and try to destroy those who questioned them. angry

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Post by aiyoyo 17.01.13 15:21

Well, all their collected millions spent on bogus search bogus campaign and litigations and it comes down to this at the end of the day, and it ain't over yet, not by a long haul. And, where is Maddie? Time they tell the truth.
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Post by Guest 17.01.13 15:24

PeterMac wrote:And now this one.
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/libel-diary-afternoon-january-17.html

Libel Diary, afternoon January 17
The reason for the rumours we alluded to yesterday is, of course, the desperate straits that good old Team McCann is in. They have no choice but to settle but they believe they can minimise the damage if only they can spin it and muffle it enough to leave them a shred of credibility, though events in Algeria came a little too soon to bury the settlement in the sand. The trouble is that, just as in Lisbon in January 2010, so many people have been enlisted in the salvage effort that it's been impossible to plug the leaks.

The spin you will receive, unless the McCanns decide to change it in the light of what they're reading here, is that funds being low and the needs of the search so great – once it resumes – they are no longer willing to waste money and will let bygones be bygones in order to preserve the fund's assets.

Bullshit.

Duarte has told them that they cannot possibly win. Not only are they not dropping the case to save money but they are even now in negotiations to try and reduce the financial demands being made by Goncalo Amaral's defence team. Every national editor in England is aware of these negotiations but true to their performance since 2008 they aren't saying a word – yet. Not even Kier Simmons, bless him. Anyone want to tweet him for his views about the dreadful rumours from the dreadful ignoramuses of the internet?

And while they have their phones in their hands perhaps they'll tweet Clarence Mitchell to ask if he still believes he has a future in the Tory party and how he feels about Amaral's intended pursuit – of him. Go on, ask him.


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Post by aiyoyo 17.01.13 15:27

No wonder mad Marcos run off to Bolivia!

Marinho Pinto must be peeved he's deprived of running off his fat mouth and giving everyone a show.

What ever happened to all those witnesses who offer to stand for Mccanns? Did the Mccanns have no confidence in them?

Oh, ID first ever defeat in a high profile case, with a hugh dent in her credibility and her otherwise exemplary records. Shame big grin
That witch must be furious - imagine losing a case by default? big grin
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Post by Me 17.01.13 15:31

tiny wrote:My opinion of blacksmith has nothing to do with what he said about Tony Bennett,its about its taken him nigh on 6 yrs to realize kate is mad and even more so when he dissected her book when it first came out,like i say its my opinion that blacksmith knows no more than we do just like coldwater who made us believe he new more than he actually did.

Well the very first page of BS asserted they had lied. What BS did with the book was dissect it to PROVE how mad she was. Not simply accuse her without any foundation. He used her own words to show it.

That is why he hasn't been Carter Rucked.

I am quite sure that he was well aware of her personality back then. But to accuse without foundation is to risk the wrath of our friends CR.

I know it is your opinion, you keep telling me that. I am saying until you can evidence what you are saying that is all it remains, an unfounded opinion.

Did you for example write a running commentary on the book banning case and subsequent overturning in Portugal?

Did you write a topic on the episode in the van with JT and compare it with the Rogotary interviews, in particular the question as to why she wasn't asked that specific question?

Did you write a dissection on the appeal court judges verdicts highlighting the significance of their findings?

Did you write a piece regarding the final archiving report and the Mccann's failure to demonstrate their innocence and why that was significant?

If the answer to all or any of these is "no", then clearly BS does know more than you and me and most others on this and other forums about this case.

Which is why when he writes about the case, i for one listen.

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Post by Guest 17.01.13 15:33

Well, this is what Isabel Duarte said on Panorama The Last Hope.............



Isabel Duarte, the civil lawyer in Portugal who acts for the McCann family in their libel action against Amaral, says it's not a popular fight.

“I feel alone because I don’t feel support, not in public opinion. I have friends that don’t want to talk to me about the case because everyone believes in Goncalo Amaral. Everyone believes that I am defending a father and mother that have killed their daughter and got rid of the corpse.”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2012/panorama-maddie.html



She didn't sound too optimistic did she.
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Post by Me 17.01.13 15:34

candyfloss wrote:
PeterMac wrote:And now this one.
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/libel-diary-afternoon-january-17.html

Libel Diary, afternoon January 17
The reason for the rumours we alluded to yesterday is, of course, the desperate straits that good old Team McCann is in. They have no choice but to settle but they believe they can minimise the damage if only they can spin it and muffle it enough to leave them a shred of credibility, though events in Algeria came a little too soon to bury the settlement in the sand. The trouble is that, just as in Lisbon in January 2010, so many people have been enlisted in the salvage effort that it's been impossible to plug the leaks.

The spin you will receive, unless the McCanns decide to change it in the light of what they're reading here, is that funds being low and the needs of the search so great – once it resumes – they are no longer willing to waste money and will let bygones be bygones in order to preserve the fund's assets.

Bullshit.

Duarte has told them that they cannot possibly win. Not only are they not dropping the case to save money but they are even now in negotiations to try and reduce the financial demands being made by Goncalo Amaral's defence team. Every national editor in England is aware of these negotiations but true to their performance since 2008 they aren't saying a word – yet. Not even Kier Simmons, bless him. Anyone want to tweet him for his views about the dreadful rumours from the dreadful ignoramuses of the internet?

And while they have their phones in their hands perhaps they'll tweet Clarence Mitchell to ask if he still believes he has a future in the Tory party and how he feels about Amaral's intended pursuit – of him. Go on, ask him.


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Really? Where, i cant see anything on Clarence's feed.

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Post by PeterMac 17.01.13 15:36

candyfloss wrote:Well, this is what Isabel Duarte said on Panorama The Last Hope.............
Isabel Duarte, the civil lawyer in Portugal who acts for the McCann family in their libel action against Amaral, says it's not a popular fight.
“I feel alone because I don’t feel support, not in public opinion. I have friends that don’t want to talk to me about the case because everyone believes in Goncalo Amaral. Everyone believes that I am defending a father and mother that have killed their daughter and got rid of the corpse.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2012/panorama-maddie.html
She didn't sound too optimistic did she.
She also didn't use the lawyer's word "allegedly".
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Post by tiny 17.01.13 15:37

You can beleive what you want ,but my opinion is that he does not know all and his words should be taken with a pinch of salt untill we hear directly from official source that the mccanns are going to cave in on this court case.
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Post by Me 17.01.13 15:43

tiny wrote:You can beleive what you want ,but my opinion is that he does not know all and his words should be taken with a pinch of salt untill we hear directly from official source that the mccanns are going to cave in on this court case.

Nobody says he does know all, but that isn't what you originally said.

You said:

tiny wrote:I have read some of blacksmiths posting and your quite right some are
odd,but i still do not believe he knows any more than we do,but thats
just my opinion.

I pointed out that he has provided a better analysis and understanding of all aspects of the case than "we" have.

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Post by Guest 17.01.13 15:45

Me wrote:
candyfloss wrote:
PeterMac wrote:And now this one.
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/libel-diary-afternoon-january-17.html

Libel Diary, afternoon January 17
The reason for the rumours we alluded to yesterday is, of course, the desperate straits that good old Team McCann is in. They have no choice but to settle but they believe they can minimise the damage if only they can spin it and muffle it enough to leave them a shred of credibility, though events in Algeria came a little too soon to bury the settlement in the sand. The trouble is that, just as in Lisbon in January 2010, so many people have been enlisted in the salvage effort that it's been impossible to plug the leaks.

The spin you will receive, unless the McCanns decide to change it in the light of what they're reading here, is that funds being low and the needs of the search so great – once it resumes – they are no longer willing to waste money and will let bygones be bygones in order to preserve the fund's assets.

Bullshit.

Duarte has told them that they cannot possibly win. Not only are they not dropping the case to save money but they are even now in negotiations to try and reduce the financial demands being made by Goncalo Amaral's defence team. Every national editor in England is aware of these negotiations but true to their performance since 2008 they aren't saying a word – yet. Not even Kier Simmons, bless him. Anyone want to tweet him for his views about the dreadful rumours from the dreadful ignoramuses of the internet?

And while they have their phones in their hands perhaps they'll tweet Clarence Mitchell to ask if he still believes he has a future in the Tory party and how he feels about Amaral's intended pursuit – of him. Go on, ask him.


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Really? Where, i cant see anything on Clarence's feed.



Ob McCann hastag about 25 mins ago



M*** [email=W***@u]W***@u[/email]*******

@mitch_1uk ClarenceMitchell you still believe you have a future in t Tory party&how do you feel about Amarals intended pursuit of U #McCann
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Post by aiyoyo 17.01.13 15:50

they are no longer willing to waste money and will let bygones be bygones in order to preserve the fund's assets.

Let bygones be bygones! What!!
Does it mean Dr. Amaral is free to print his book in English in UK or any where in the English speaking world?
Whatever happens to their claim that his book hinders their search, libel them, and that they sued for Maddie's sake for the search for Maddie. So when they let bygones be bygones does it mean Maddie is bygone and so let it be? So if the book libels them shouldn't it be about principles and not how much fund they've got?
The mind truly boggles.

How are they going to spin out of this is a mystery? Just wait for it - they're going to blame the Portuguese Court and systems?

I bet CR is apprised of this through the Mccanns.
Will the curse mccanns have on people and their lawyers afflict CR? Even ID wasn't spared the humiliation.
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Post by PeterMac 17.01.13 15:54

Me,
Me wrote:
tiny wrote:You can beleive what you want ,but my opinion is that he does not know all and his words should be taken with a pinch of salt untill we hear directly from official source that the mccanns are going to cave in on this court case.
I pointed out that he has provided a better analysis and understanding of all aspects of the case than "we" have.
I still wonder if it is too soon to rush into print, when we only have Blacksmith's version.
I am sure Blacksmith will point us in the right direction when it becomes evidenced.
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Post by Me 17.01.13 15:59

PeterMac wrote:Me,
Me wrote:
tiny wrote:You can beleive what you want ,but my opinion is that he does not know all and his words should be taken with a pinch of salt untill we hear directly from official source that the mccanns are going to cave in on this court case.
I pointed out that he has provided a better analysis and understanding of all aspects of the case than "we" have.
I still wonder if it is too soon to rush into print, when we only have Blacksmith's version.
I am sure Blacksmith will point us in the right direction when it becomes evidenced.

Agreed, that's why i haven't said this is gospel just yet.

What i have said is that his analysis purely of the case itself is the most insightful and revealing on the net.

I don't buy into this criticism of his overall work just because he had a pop at TB in a couple of posts.

That was my point.

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