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Joan David found dead

Post by Guest on 05.06.12 12:46

This article is in Norwegian, maybe someone can find it in English news if its written about? ( usually the norwegian news is copy pasted and google translated from british mail, but not this one it looks like)

Case is, last week a 3 year old boy vanished form his home, assumed kidnapped while he was beeing babysitted.

Today the news are writing that the babysitters hide the body of Joan in a container on the street, after the little boy had an accident. He slipped in the shower , hit his head and died..

Norwegian news link

http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/utenriks/sakna-gut-3-funnen-doed-paa-soeppelfylling-3798611.html
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Abduction cover-ups...it's usually the family...and it's often a deliberate act

Post by Tony Bennett on 05.06.12 16:28

Moa wrote:This article is in Norwegian, maybe someone can find it in English news if its written about? (usually the Norwegian news is copy pasted and google translated from British mail, but not this one it looks like)

Case is, last week a 3 year old boy vanished form his home, assumed kidnapped while he was being babysitted.

Today the news are writing that the babysitters hid the body of Joan in a container on the street, after the little boy had an accident. He slipped in the shower, hit his head and died...

Norwegian news link:

http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/utenriks/sakna-gut-3-funnen-doed-paa-soeppelfylling-3798611.html
Thank you Moa for posting this link.

There have certainly been some terrible events in Norway recently. Aside from Breivik's heartless massacre, there was also this awful murder of an innocent baby:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083006/Yasmin-Chaudhry-drowns-baby-daughter-bucket-boyfriend-watches-Skype.html

...though this murder was not by a Norwegian, but by a Pakistani Muslim - who incidentally lied to cover up her crime, until she was found out.

But the story of Joan David brings me to make a point.

Elsewhere I have written that in 95% of cases of very young children allegedly being abducted/kidnapped from their parents, it turns out to have been an act of negligence, neglect, omission or deliberate act by the parents, or a family member, or a family friend (or in this case, the family's babysitter).

On reviewing the literature, however, it is astonishing in just how many of these cases the young child/infant/baby is actually killed by a deliberate act of violence by a perpertrator - as in the Joan David murder, and the drowning-in-a-bucket-on-Skype murder.

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Re: Joan David found dead

Post by Guest on 05.06.12 16:50

@Tony Bennett wrote:
Moa wrote:This article is in Norwegian, maybe someone can find it in English news if its written about? (usually the Norwegian news is copy pasted and google translated from British mail, but not this one it looks like)

Case is, last week a 3 year old boy vanished form his home, assumed kidnapped while he was being babysitted.

Today the news are writing that the babysitters hid the body of Joan in a container on the street, after the little boy had an accident. He slipped in the shower, hit his head and died...

Norwegian news link:

http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/utenriks/sakna-gut-3-funnen-doed-paa-soeppelfylling-3798611.html
Thank you Moa for posting this link.

There have certainly been some terrible events in Norway recently. Aside from Breivik's heartless massacre, there was also this awful murder of an innocent baby:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083006/Yasmin-Chaudhry-drowns-baby-daughter-bucket-boyfriend-watches-Skype.html

...though this murder was not by a Norwegian, but by a Pakistani Muslim - who incidentally lied to cover up her crime, until she was found out.

But the story of Joan David brings me to make a point.

Elsewhere I have written that in 95% of cases of very young children allegedly being abducted/kidnapped from their parents, it turns out to have been an act of negligence, neglect, omission or deliberate act by the parents, or a family member, or a family friend (or in this case, the family's babysitter).

On reviewing the literature, however, it is astonishing in just how many of these cases the young child/infant/baby is actually killed by a deliberate act of violence by a perpertrator - as in the Joan David murder, and the drowning-in-a-bucket-on-Skype murder.

Im glad you saw what I saw. In most cases it's not a stranger abduction . I also forgot to mention that they also used trained dogs to find his body... Have they not written about this case in the British news?

I rembember the case about the baby, I think her bf that was on skype helping her was from England ?
And she was not a Norwegian women. I think we have few cases if any in our country where small children just disappear and the case never gets solved.. I think we have one famouse case about a girl called therese who has never been found, but she was abducted on her way to thoe store At age 7 or 8 I think, Thomas quick, a Swedish murder confessed to the murder but he is just a sick man who wants attention and it turn out not be him so case is still unsolved...



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Re: Joan David found dead

Post by Guest on 11.06.12 12:38

I presume that this is the same case though the name is Johan David and the very strange events happened in Spain.

http://www.costa-news.com/content/view/9755/120/
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Re: Joan David found dead

Post by Gillyspot on 11.06.12 18:01

You are correct Jean

Here is another article

"Two women looking after the child said there was an accident and they left his body in a rubbish container
The police have found the body of the three year old boy from Valencia who vanished last Wednesday in the Dos Aguas rubbish tip.

The body of Joan David had disappeared last Wednesday when he was in the care of two women, friends of his mother, all three of them come from from Boliva.


The body was found at 6pm today, Monday with the help of specialist police dogs from Madrid, expert in sniffing out cadavers.

It’s been calculated that the police went through as much as 300 tons of the 700 tons of rubbish stored at Dos Aguas before making the find.

The two women, aged 25 and 20 who were looking after the child initially gave differing and confused accounts of what had happened, but finally admitted that there was an accident and the child had slipped in the shower and hit his head and died.

The two women decided to dispose of the body in a street rubbish container.

Lohammy, the boy’s mother had thought her child had been taken to be sold, and said nothing would be found in the rubbish tip. Unfortunately she was proved to be wrong."

http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_34891.shtml

The poor child. I hope he didn't suffer. Also seems cadaver dogs found the body - so weren't confused by blood or semen despite what trolls state.

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