MADELEINE: SECRET FILES REVEAL FOUR 'SIGHTINGS' IN MOROCCO
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Re: MADELEINE: SECRET FILES REVEAL FOUR 'SIGHTINGS' IN MOROCCO
Wasn't this the Private Detective Agency that declared that they would have Madeleine home for Xmas?
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Did they specify Christmas in which year?
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It may well be that SY are looking through these key sightings and checking as to why the PIs did not follow them through like they were paid to do. What is meant by they took them as far as they could then passed info to th PJ? Unless I am missing something, it was the job of the PIs to follow through until the child was found or the trail went cold.
SY may well be checking as to why the important leads were left to go cold for so long........maybe they are investigating a fraud. And if the fund was fraudulently set up, I would think that they then have to look at the abduction scenario being a fraud, as that was the basis for the fund.....a child has been abducted, Maddie was never simply described as simply missing or disappeared in the early days when the family were trying to publicise things and get public support, was she? Was the whole story to gain publicity that a child had been stolen from her bed by a stranger?
I do not see how a fraudulent fund can be established without the next logical step......the reason for the fund was dishonest also.
SY may well be checking as to why the important leads were left to go cold for so long........maybe they are investigating a fraud. And if the fund was fraudulently set up, I would think that they then have to look at the abduction scenario being a fraud, as that was the basis for the fund.....a child has been abducted, Maddie was never simply described as simply missing or disappeared in the early days when the family were trying to publicise things and get public support, was she? Was the whole story to gain publicity that a child had been stolen from her bed by a stranger?
I do not see how a fraudulent fund can be established without the next logical step......the reason for the fund was dishonest also.
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russiandoll wrote:It may well be that SY are looking through these key sightings and checking as to why the PIs did not follow them through like they were paid to do. What is meant by they took them as far as they could then passed info to th PJ? Unless I am missing something, it was the job of the PIs to follow through until the child was found or the trail went cold.
SY may well be checking as to why the important leads were left to go cold for so long........maybe they are investigating a fraud. And if the fund was fraudulently set up, I would think that they then have to look at the abduction scenario being a fraud, as that was the basis for the fund.....a child has been abducted, Maddie was never simply described as simply missing or disappeared in the early days when the family were trying to publicise things and get public support, was she? Was the whole story to gain publicity that a child had been stolen from her bed by a stranger?
I do not see how a fraudulent fund can be established without the next logical step......the reason for the fund was dishonest also.
You have hit the nail on the head there russiandoll, they took on a company that were allegedly specialists in finding missing children. As you say, it is their job to track down sightings and find the child. What is the point of paying a PI huge amounts of money if all they do is have a phone number for people to ring with sightings and then just expect to pass the information on the the police for them to do the work. What exactly do the PI's do for their money then. These 8 or so leads, may be by the sound of it the leads that were in the PJ files and subsequently the huge stories that appeared in the press on March 3rd and 4th 2010. Edgar and Cowley had all this info, what have they done about it? We know from one newspaper investigation into the infamous "have you got my daughter" sighting was never investigated properly.
I think SY may well be having a good look at these sightings, and wonder why, if they were so important, they were filed away, and just left gathering dust.
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So are the "crack detectives" from Scotland Yard heading off with their suncream to Morocco now? Kate & Gerry McCann (sorry "donors" to their LTD FUND) paid for these leads over 3 years ago and we are to believe that NOTHING has happened since unless they decided they weren't worth following up (or couldn't be bothered) - delete as appropriate? Pull the other one it has bells on
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Wasn't there a report of a telephone number that was issued but never answered? I have a vague memory of this [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
This was reported about on The Madeleine Foundation.
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This was reported about on The Madeleine Foundation.
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Re: MADELEINE: SECRET FILES REVEAL FOUR 'SIGHTINGS' IN MOROCCO
It may be they are also checking why Antonio Giménez Raso invented these sightings in the first place. Who asked him to do so ? Who was pulling his strings ? Was it the McCs themselves, or Mitchell ? Or was he perhaps merely under orders from M3 to keep it all looking good whilst the funds were flowing.russiandoll wrote:It may well be that SY are looking through these key sightings and checking as to why the PIs did not follow them through like they were paid to do. SNIP
Who knows?
Re: MADELEINE: SECRET FILES REVEAL FOUR 'SIGHTINGS' IN MOROCCO
SY may also be asking themselves why the McCanns themselves didn't think these leads were worth following up 4 years ago and also the boxes of evidence worth collecting.
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One point of concern with all this - the Scotland Yard inquiry is taking place in the heat of the recent claims by journalists that poilice supplied information to them in exchange for cash. Now, surely, given the sensitivity of the Madeleine case they will have taken care to ensure there aren't any leaks or at the very least be plugging any leaks they do discover? Is this info PURELY McCann spin on events (trying to save face in what seemed more like a raid on M3 than "collaboration") or do they have "friends" within the investigation happily giving them info?
I'd hate for this whole thing to go belly up if there's further questions about the integrity of SY.
I'd hate for this whole thing to go belly up if there's further questions about the integrity of SY.
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Nina wrote:Wasn't there a report of a telephone number that was issued but never answered? I have a vague memory of this [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
This was reported about on The Madeleine Foundation.
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That was when Halligen was employed as a crap (Sorry crack) PI by the McCanns. He was only employed for 6 months but no one listened to calls for at least 12 months.
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Marian wrote:Did they specify Christmas in which year?
I felt at the time that it was shameful to announce this in the press but hey that's just my opinion.
I just do not understand if there were these sightings and leads that were not being checked by the Portuguese police how it becomes a "that's that" situation. I understand the part of them being the lead police force but surely somewhere under European law the British Police could have picked up the baton if it was felt the Portuguese had dropped it. - They appear to be doing that now in a sense so why has it taken so long to do what seemed common sensical to do ages ago if there were genuine grounds to suspect that the Portuguese were not doing their job properly?
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BOXES OF DOCUMENTS
There should be very clear evidence of what was done and when and when and why action ceased in these documents, together with accounts and receipts for travel, hotels and the like. Who apart from SY has obtained these documents to examine them? It will become as clear as day whether or not there were genuine leads that were followed up or not and they will have to answer as to why if they were so important they were left hanging and not taken to any conclusion.
There was a note in yesterday's Express that a reader could have a say but when you got to the end of the piece it said no comments being taken. What a surprise.
The whole piece was spun to read as a criticism of the PJ who were handed these important files and who then ignored them. I think we will elarn that the PIs were the inactive ones and they need to be accountable as do the McCanns who employed them . Did they not keep up with what their PIs were or were not doing? There should be correspondence or lack of it available for SY to read, letters and e mails betweent the couple and the agency. All we have been told is from the mouths of the couple and their PIs and Mr Mitchell of course.......now hopefully no words will be required, honest or otherwise, I hope SY have seized everything, I dont think items were voluntarily handed over at all, I believe SY have just walked in and taken anything and everything they saw as uselul to their review.
There was a note in yesterday's Express that a reader could have a say but when you got to the end of the piece it said no comments being taken. What a surprise.
The whole piece was spun to read as a criticism of the PJ who were handed these important files and who then ignored them. I think we will elarn that the PIs were the inactive ones and they need to be accountable as do the McCanns who employed them . Did they not keep up with what their PIs were or were not doing? There should be correspondence or lack of it available for SY to read, letters and e mails betweent the couple and the agency. All we have been told is from the mouths of the couple and their PIs and Mr Mitchell of course.......now hopefully no words will be required, honest or otherwise, I hope SY have seized everything, I dont think items were voluntarily handed over at all, I believe SY have just walked in and taken anything and everything they saw as uselul to their review.
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