Met police fly to Spain re Madeleine disappearance

jd wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:

BTW, mccanns seem to be their anchor news - if there's nothing else happening, nothing else to report, they use mccanns to fill in spaces! Cant go wrong after all the pair of lairs cant complain because they want the public engaged for the search. What is so so bizzare is the "S" word is not mentioned by the Mets nor the Press.

This is the kind of story the press/media dream of, and goes a long way to explain why they are so keen to be involved. This story can run and run for years (as proven) and as you exactly say, " if there's nothing else happening, nothing else to report, they use mccanns to fill in spaces!"

In a perverse kind of way this scam is a masterstroke, and the planted confusions has just added so much to the mystery and kept the 'story' alive beyond their wildest imaginations from the start. The mccanns & their cronies lie and totally contradict themselves, yet the vast majority of the public are unaware of the scam this is and the real implications it is having now by taking away our right to freedom of speech

In fact such a masterstroke that it smacks of pre-planning which involves many people and organisations.

Paddy wrote: In fact such a masterstroke that it smacks of pre-planning which involves many people and organisations.

Yep...thats about the long and short of it when you dig deep into it

jd wrote:

Paddy wrote: In fact such a masterstroke that it smacks of pre-planning which involves many people and organisations.

Yep...thats about the long and short of it when you dig deep into it

It's like this scam was planned and organised to deal with many issues/wider agenda that the government don't like/or want to implement:

Freedom of speech/libel
Failing newspaper sales due to internet
Censorship of the internet
Cover up of paedophilia
Microchipping etc.

Not sure why a child had to die/disappear though. Surely the government didn't just see her sudden 'disappearance' as an opportunity to deal with other issues, yet that's what's happening? The whole case is very confusing yet there is definitely more to it than we are led to believe.

Paddy wrote: Not sure why a child had to die/disappear though. Surely the government didn't just see her sudden 'disappearance' as an opportunity to deal with other issues, yet that's what's happening? The whole case is very confusing yet there is definitely more to it than we are led to believe.

Personally I don't think a child did die or disappear and the one in question (Maddie) probably died many months previously in the UK. Though I don't dispel the possibility or theory of 'a child' having a tragic accident on this holiday

On a slightly different tangent but has anyone noticed that comments are allowed on these articles about the McCanns (both in the Sun and the Daily Fail).

That is a first for - how long?

Gillyspot wrote:On a slightly different tangent but has anyone noticed that comments are allowed on these articles about the McCanns (both in the Sun and the Daily Fail).

That is a first for - how long?

And they are all from people unaware of the facts and commenting from the heart...This is where the mccanns have people so long as they whoosh any other theory off the net!

[quote="Gillyspot"]On a slightly different tangent but has anyone noticed that comments are allowed on these articles about the McCanns (both in the Sun and the Daily Fail).

That is a first for - how long?



the sun haven't allowed comments for years ..even threads made on the articles sun published were removed from the news etc section ...

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I just hope and pray for Maddie's sake they will get to the truth ....of what happened to Maddie

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Gillyspot wrote:On a slightly different tangent but has anyone noticed that comments are allowed on these articles about the McCanns (both in the Sun and the Daily Fail).

That is a first for - how long?



the sun haven't allowed comments for years ..even threads made on the articles sun published were removed from the news etc section ...

surprised also my comment has been allowed [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ...although it wasn't too anti



I just hope and pray for Maddie's sake they will get to the truth ....of what happened to Maddie

Perhaps this is payback time following the Levenson Inquiry!

Maybe not payback time after all. The Sun says the PI's have always believed the Victoria Beckham look alike incident could be significant, so significant they didn't do any investigating!

Ollie wrote:Maybe not payback time after all. The Sun says the PI's have always believed the Victoria Beckham look alike incident could be significant, so significant they didn't do any investigating!

That would be the same PI's who said Madeleine was in a secret lair within 10 miles of PDL would it? So significant was that belief that no investigation of the lawless hills have been done to my knowledge.

The Daily Mail didn't publish my comments. The comments I submitted weren't unfounded upon, they were slightly critical of the Mail for the integrity of their journalism but nothing more. I've asked them why they didn't publish them but don't expect for one minute to get a reply. You can't however, take them seriously, most of them never got past the Lord of the Flies.

Why are the Sun telling people to contact the McCann's direct and not the Police if they have any information?

quickfingers wrote:Why are the Sun telling people to contact the McCann's direct and not the Police if they have any information?

When the inquiry started, trying to find the name of who was in charge and to send any info was like getting blood from a stone!

The Rooster wrote:The Daily Mail didn't publish my comments. The comments I submitted weren't unfounded upon, they were slightly critical of the Mail for the integrity of their journalism but nothing more. I've asked them why they didn't publish them but don't expect for one minute to get a reply. You can't however, take them seriously, most of them never got past the Lord of the Flies.

"i hope they find her its good that they have the money to keep funding the search as many parents dont"...If only they knew that in fact the money from the fund is being spent on high cost lawyers to suppress our right of freedom of speech!

Does anyone else have the feeling that todays articles are somewhat more sympathetic to the McCanns than yesterday?

All about this supposed Victoria Beckam lookalike (as if that was the ONLY thing that "allegedly" happened in Spain in this case).

Gillyspot wrote:Does anyone else have the feeling that todays articles are somewhat more sympathetic to the McCanns than yesterday?

All about this supposed Victoria Beckam lookalike (as if that was the ONLY thing that "allegedly" happened in Spain in this case).

Don't know why they are bringing up this fairytale story up again, this is years old. I guess it is to be sympathetic and raise positive feelings for the mccanns around Xmas time and before the court cases next Feb. I feel we are going to get a lot of this rubbish in the media over the next few months

Pershing36 wrote:I hope the whole Spanish affair wasn't a smoke screen in the first place. I am still very curious about the fridge blog, who is to say were that ended up and how long it took to throw away. Something keeps bringing me back to it as to freezer theory has so many unanswered questions. To whom it belonged and were it was is the biggest.

Why not take a drive round Spain visiting 'meaningless' places making any search a ridiculously large area that wont unearth anything.

Pershing

I think this could be correct - maybe it was part of their agenda. It has to be remembered that this disappearance of Madeleine was handled by experienced people - Bell Pottinger.

All this material surfacing in the papers may also be part of the process of misinformation.

If the Met Police are investigating the Victoria Beckham lead - we can forget all about any justice for Madeleine. Its laughable - the Met Police investigating a "someone heard someone" lead!

Edited to remove quote.

A, B or C?

Brian Kennedy chose tainted Spanish detective agency Metodo 3 to work on the Madeleine McCann case because

a) They had a truly inspirational track record of finding missing children
b) He has holidays every year in Francisco Marco’s villa
c) They would do his bidding in terms of producing false ‘sightings’ of Madeleine


When Brian Kennedy read in the newspapers in December 2007 that Metodo 3’s boss was promising that Madeleine would be ‘home by Christmas’ he was

a) Elated that the McCanns would be reunited with Madeleine
b) cautiously optimistic
c) delighted because Metodo 3 had got acres of space in British newspapers about Madeleine

JD

tricky questions but i vote for

(c)

and

(c)

It seems that although SY say they are co-operating with PJ Police the Attorney General seems not to have been told about the trip to Spain..................


Maddie: Attorney General's Office not part of new investigations

6 December 2011 | Posted by astro


by: Paula Oliveira


The English police is investigating the disappearance of Maddie McCann without the assistance of Portuguese authorities. This information has been confirmed to TVI24 by the [Portuguese] Republic's Attorney General.


Three Scotland Yard investigators were in Barcelona between the 23rd and the 25th of November, following leads in the disappearance of the English child that disappeared from an apartment in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, in 2007. The presence of investigators in Spain may indicate that the child was taken across the border. But the Scotland Yard did not contact the Portuguese investigators.


«The Scotland Yard did not have any contact with the Attorney General's Office about that issue. In the process, there is no knowledge of the existence of any new data/facts about Maddie's disappearance. The process will only be reopened under the regulations of article 279 of the Penal Process Code, which is to say, if any new elements appear that invalidate the basis for the archiving», the Attorney General's Office states in a written reply to TVI24.

The case was archived by the Attorney General's Office. Approximately one year ago, Pinto Monteiro [the Attorney General] asserted that he would only reopen it if new data appeared.


In May last year, the Scotland Yard reopened the process after the personal intervention of the United Kingdom's prime minister, David Cameron.


It is not known whether the British investigators have discovered any new fact that the Portuguese police failed to notice.


In August this year, the Scotland Yard confirmed to [Portuguese news] agency Lusa that they traveled to Portugal in order to discuss the Maddie case with Portuguese investigators. At that time, the Judiciary Police (PJ) and the Attorney General said they did not know about that information.

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I just read that candyfloss. I don't know what to think. Unless this is a completely separate investigation into other aspects of the case rather than the disappearance itself.

Or the stories from yesterday are just purely BS coming so soon after the McCanns actions against TB became public.

pauline wrote:JD

tricky questions but i vote for

(c)

and

(c)

Yep and they have space in the papers again recycling an old story from 4 years ago!

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Spain: Three Scotland Yard Officers Sent From England

Maddie Lead in Barcelona


Three detectives from Scotland Yard, the London Metropolitan Police Force, in England, were in Barcelona, Spain, looking for clues that could lead to the whereabouts of Madeleine McCann, the British girl who disappeared from Praia da Luz in May 2007.


The police team formed following an order by the British Prime Minister David Cameron, last May, sent the detectives to Barcelona between the 23rd and 25th November. Barcelona was indicated as being Maddie’s probable location, having been transported there by a paedophile network, in car or by boat, shortly after her disappearance from the Algarve.

There were reports made by various persons, who claimed to have seen a girl similar to Maddie in Barcelona. Spanish police even tried to locate a woman with an Australian accent, who, on the day following Maddie’s disappearance, asked a man at Barcelona marina if he had transported her “new daughter” by boat.

According to the British press, the police team created by David Cameron has already travelled to Portugal three times since last May to revise details together with Portuguese investigators.

They were received by the PJ.

Just about every journalist has managed to put a twist to their own version of the same story.

This one states SY was looking for clues to whereabout of Maddie in Barcelona? HA? In that case, why give more credence to this story, why not the story about her being held in a cave in lawless village 10ml radius PDL?

How did SY determine the significance of pte detectives story? Again what is so strange is why would SY give the press a non-story to print and miraculously every paper under the sun in UK and even a Barcelona's papers has picked up on the story.

If as if the mccanns were royalties and a mention of them with their image splashed on the front page is enough to push up sale? So how bizzare!

If CM had phoned in the story how did he know about SY's trips or are the trips just fabrication of the source?
There is no way of verifying the report in the press? Did SY go to Barcelona or not has become a burning question to me.

The story makes a hugh issue of victoria beckham lookalike...but that was 4 years ago for crying out loud which should have been followed up by mccanns pis. In today's context would they associate any sighting to Lady Gaga look-alike?

If anything, if they intend on focusing on sightings then surely the lastest one in Leh should have been the one to follow up isn't it, logically speaking? What's the point of chasing a 4-year story when Maddie is reportedly spotted in INDIA?

I feel it safe to bet my bottom dollar the trip to spain wasnt about researching the sighting, more to do with researching the searchers.

Police take another look at Madeleine McCann disappearance
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The disappearance of Madeleine McCann more than four years ago sparked an international outpouring of grief.

Stephanie FindlayStaff Reporter


Recent visits to Spain by Scotland Yard detectives are sparking fresh speculation about the 2007 disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Detectives have been flying to Spain over the past two weeks to investigate new developments in the case of the British 3-year-old who disappeared from a vacation apartment in Portugal as her parents ate at a tapas bar 100 metres away.

The detectives won’t say why they spent three days visiting police in Barcelona, but there are reports Madeleine was abducted in Portugal and smuggled across the border to Spain.

Though the official case was closed in 2008, Scotland Yard was directed to review the McCann files in May after Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, both doctors, made an appeal to British Prime Minister David Cameron.

“There has been very good co-operation with Portuguese authorities and liaison will continue,” said a Scotland Yard spokesman.

“We are pleased that the review is making progress,” the couple said in a statement issued Monday.

While the initial reaction to their daughter’s disappearance was supportive — the outpouring of grief was compared to Princess Diana’s death, and celebrities such as J.K. Rowling and Richard Branson offered million-dollar rewards for her return — the mood shifted in the following months, as theories published by tabloids accused the McCanns of murdering Madeleine and covering up their crime.

Probably the most potent rumour was that the McCanns killed Madeleine, stored her body in a freezer, then used a rental car to dispose of it.

Headlines like “Corpse in McCann Car” and “Maddy DNA Bombshell: New Results Put Parents Back in the Spotlight” were ubiquitous.

Like Lindy Chamberlain — the Australian woman who testified a dingo stole her baby — before her and Casey Anthony since, Kate McCann was seen as aloof and criticized for not displaying appropriate emotional distress.

Last month, the McCanns told the an inquiry into the conduct of the British media that the tabloid headlines were “nothing short of disgusting.”

The McCanns successfully sued The Express, a British tabloid, for libel in March 2008.

That July, Portugal’s public prosecutor closed the investigation, concluding there was no evidence against the parents.

Still, theories abound. In February, Marcelino Italiano, an amateur sleuth, told the British Sun tabloid that Madeleine had been abducted by a pedophile ring based in the Algarve region of Portugal where the McCanns were staying.

“I know these people were involved,” said Italiano, an Angola-born nightclub bouncer. “I have been told that Madeleine may now be in America.”

sharonl wrote:
“I know these people were involved,” said Italiano, an Angola-born nightclub bouncer. “I have been told that Madeleine may now be in America.”

Really!

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The disappearance of Madeleine McCann more than four years ago sparked an international outpouring of grief.

Stephanie FindlayStaff Reporter


Recent visits to Spain by Scotland Yard detectives are sparking fresh speculation about the 2007 disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Detectives have been flying to Spain over the past two weeks to investigate new developments in the case of the British 3-year-old who disappeared from a vacation apartment in Portugal as her parents ate at a tapas bar 100 metres away.

The detectives won’t say why they spent three days visiting police in Barcelona, but there are reports Madeleine was abducted in Portugal and smuggled across the border to Spain.

Though the official case was closed in 2008, Scotland Yard was directed to review the McCann files in May after Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, both doctors, made an appeal to British Prime Minister David Cameron.

“There has been very good co-operation with Portuguese authorities and liaison will continue,” said a Scotland Yard spokesman.

“We are pleased that the review is making progress,” the couple said in a statement issued Monday.

While the initial reaction to their daughter’s disappearance was supportive — the outpouring of grief was compared to Princess Diana’s death, and celebrities such as J.K. Rowling and Richard Branson offered million-dollar rewards for her return — the mood shifted in the following months, as theories published by tabloids accused the McCanns of murdering Madeleine and covering up their crime.

Probably the most potent rumour was that the McCanns killed Madeleine, stored her body in a freezer, then used a rental car to dispose of it.

Headlines like “Corpse in McCann Car” and “Maddy DNA Bombshell: New Results Put Parents Back in the Spotlight” were ubiquitous.

Like Lindy Chamberlain — the Australian woman who testified a dingo stole her baby — before her and Casey Anthony since, Kate McCann was seen as aloof and criticized for not displaying appropriate emotional distress.

Last month, the McCanns told the an inquiry into the conduct of the British media that the tabloid headlines were “nothing short of disgusting.”

The McCanns successfully sued The Express, a British tabloid, for libel in March 2008.

That July, Portugal’s public prosecutor closed the investigation, concluding there was no evidence against the parents.

Still, theories abound. In February, Marcelino Italiano, an amateur sleuth, told the British Sun tabloid that Madeleine had been abducted by a pedophile ring based in the Algarve region of Portugal where the McCanns were staying.

“I know these people were involved,” said Italiano, an Angola-born nightclub bouncer. “I have been told that Madeleine may now be in America.”

Is the star part of the NI group? Early christmas greeting message in response to certain moaners at the Leveson Inquiry perhaps?

Aiyoyo the Star is not part of NI. The Sun is the weekday equivalent of the News of the World. The Times is also an NI paper. The Star is just a pretty poor excuse for a paper. Focussing more on P3 and outrageou stories than real news!

Maddie: Attorney General's Office not part of new investigations
Posted: 06 Dec 2011 06:37 AM PST

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by: Paula Oliveira


The English police is investigating the disappearance of Maddie McCann without the assistance of Portuguese authorities. This information has been confirmed to TVI24 by the [Portuguese] Republic's Attorney General.


Three Scotland Yard investigators were in Barcelona between the 23rd and the 25th of November, following leads in the disappearance of the English child that disappeared from an apartment in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, in 2007. The presence of investigators in Spain may indicate that the child was taken across the border. But the Scotland Yard did not contact the Portuguese investigators.


«The Scotland Yard did not have any contact with the Attorney General's Office about that issue. In the process, there is no knowledge of the existence of any new data/facts about Maddie's disappearance. The process will only be reopened under the regulations of article 279 of the Penal Process Code, which is to say, if any new elements appear that invalidate the basis for the archiving», the Attorney General's Office states in a written reply to TVI24.


The case was archived by the Attorney General's Office. Approximately one year ago, Pinto Monteiro [the Attorney General] asserted that he would only reopen it if new data appeared.


In May last year, the Scotland Yard reopened the process after the personal intervention of the United Kingdom's prime minister, David Cameron.


It is not known whether the British investigators have discovered any new fact that the Portuguese police failed to notice.


In August this year, the Scotland Yard confirmed to [Portuguese news] agency Lusa that they traveled to Portugal in order to discuss the Maddie case with Portuguese investigators. At that time, the Judiciary Police (PJ) and the Attorney General said they did not know about that information.




in: TVI24, 06.12.2011

sharonl wrote:Maddie: Attorney General's Office not part of new investigations
Posted: 06 Dec 2011 06:37 AM PST

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by: Paula Oliveira


The English police is investigating the disappearance of Maddie McCann without the assistance of Portuguese authorities. This information has been confirmed to TVI24 by the [Portuguese] Republic's Attorney General.


Three Scotland Yard investigators were in Barcelona between the 23rd and the 25th of November, following leads in the disappearance of the English child that disappeared from an apartment in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, in 2007. The presence of investigators in Spain may indicate that the child was taken across the border. But the Scotland Yard did not contact the Portuguese investigators.


«The Scotland Yard did not have any contact with the Attorney General's Office about that issue. In the process, there is no knowledge of the existence of any new data/facts about Maddie's disappearance. The process will only be reopened under the regulations of article 279 of the Penal Process Code, which is to say, if any new elements appear that invalidate the basis for the archiving», the Attorney General's Office states in a written reply to TVI24.


The case was archived by the Attorney General's Office. Approximately one year ago, Pinto Monteiro [the Attorney General] asserted that he would only reopen it if new data appeared.


In May last year, the Scotland Yard reopened the process after the personal intervention of the United Kingdom's prime minister, David Cameron.


It is not known whether the British investigators have discovered any new fact that the Portuguese police failed to notice.


In August this year, the Scotland Yard confirmed to [Portuguese news] agency Lusa that they traveled to Portugal in order to discuss the Maddie case with Portuguese investigators. At that time, the Judiciary Police (PJ) and the Attorney General said they did not know about that information.




in: TVI24, 06.12.2011

Thanks sharonl, I just got my e-mail alert from joana morais blog and was then going to post that myself!
So. Our papers state that SY had been 'laying groundwork for future co+peration between the three countries police' yet PT don't seem to see it that way!
Hmmm I me smell a big rat...

Not nesessarily. The Portuguese have made it very clear, they will not re open the investigation unless they are presented with credible new evidence. SY roaming the world doing whatever, does not impact on that decision. Even if SY found credible new evidence and approached the PP to ask for the investigation to be reopened, I doubt very much that news of this will first come from the Portuguese. It is more likely to be leaked from SY or the British press.