Re: Bernt Stellander interview

by jazega 23.10.24 12:47

Bernt,I applaud your committment to trying to solve this cas,which I believe you have.Have ordered your book.The James English interview should put it in peoples' minds what actually occurred.A question :
Was it difficult to get the McCann's email address?

by **BerntS** 23.10.24 12:57

Hey Jaz. Thanks.
No. It took 6 to 8 seconds.
Watch next James English podcast. Coming soon.

by **Ladyinred** 23.10.24 17:50

BerntS wrote:Honesty.
It's Lizzie and the gang...
They don't care about the truth. Truth would end their "social life"

Are you referring to Lizzy aka HiDeHo or someone else? thinking

by Jojo1 23.10.24 19:30

Bernt
Excellent interview with Moxie. I could listen to you all day. now looking forwards to your next interview with James English.
I loved your book and am so ready for volume 2. You make so much sense in what you say.
I believe in you.

by **BerntS** 23.10.24 19:57

LiR.
I thought "flying rustic sofa" would give it away. 🧐

by **BerntS** 23.10.24 19:59

Jojo.
THANKS.
I don't have to be right, but someone has to, no matter if you like the wrapping or not.
Glad and appreciative you do. pray

by **Ladyinred** 23.10.24 20:39

BerntS wrote:LiR.
I thought "flying rustic sofa" would give it away. 🧐

Yes, I did think it was her when you mentioned that

She was online here several times recently but never posted. Some things are starting to make sense to me now - I mentioned her and another member in a post a few weeks ago and nobody responded, which got me thinking...

Some are here, obviously.

by **Nina** 23.10.24 21:13

Ladyinred wrote:
BerntS wrote:LiR.
I thought "flying rustic sofa" would give it away. 🧐
Yes, I did think it was her when you mentioned that

She was online here several times recently but never posted. Some things are starting to make sense to me now - I mentioned her and another member in a post a few weeks ago and nobody responded, which got me thinking...

Some are here, obviously.

Why do people have to sneak around to see if anybody is speaking of them? I have left the facebook groups I went on because of this with Bernt and his book and I have been on them for years. I just can't be doing with it. I have no doubt we have people here now just to snoop. Sad lives pity they haven't anything better to do.

by **BerntS** 24.10.24 0:51

The fact that she nor Pat B read the book, should tell you a lot about their character.

by pinkgladioli 24.10.24 6:46

BerntS wrote:The fact that she nor Pat B read the book, should tell you a lot about their character.

It’s called being green eye’d monster’s and wanting to be TopDog’s rolled into one, I believe that’s why they didn’t read your book and instead chose to go down the route of an orchestrated discrediting campaign especially after how successful your JE interview was received

their behaviour has nothing to do with wanting to unravel what happened to Madeleine

Anyway onwards and Upwards Bernt!

by **Ladyinred** 24.10.24 7:06

Nina wrote:

Why do people have to sneak around to see if anybody is speaking of them? I have left the facebook groups I went on because of this with Bernt and his book and I have been on them for years. I just can't be doing with it. I have no doubt we have people here now just to snoop. Sad lives pity they haven't anything better to do.

I don't believe they're here to check it we're speaking of them, why we would be doing that? I would suggest it's to read about Bernt and report back. I don't know anything about these other groups but it is a shame, if true, that he's being attacked for his attempts to get to the truth, like they are.

I've been an admirer of HideHo and her work, although I doubted it happened on the Sunday, and would hope that she sees Bernt's work as adding to our knowledge and moving the mystery forward.

by Honesty 24.10.24 8:27

pinkgladioli wrote:
BerntS wrote:The fact that she nor Pat B read the book, should tell you a lot about their character.
It’s called being green eye’d monster’s and wanting to be TopDog’s rolled into one, I believe that’s why they didn’t read your book and instead chose to go down the route of an orchestrated discrediting campaign especially after how successful your JE interview was received

their behaviour has nothing to do with wanting to unravel what happened to Madeleine

Anyway onwards and Upwards Bernt!

Are you claiming that HiDeHo and PB are conducting an "orchestrated discrediting campaign" against Bernt?

by **crusader** 24.10.24 8:37

It really doesn't matter what anyone say's, the proof of who is right and wrong will hopefully, one day be revealed.
If you dare to have a different opinion on a subject, they will do their best to discredit you.
The truth is, not one of the criticisers have come close to revealing what happened to Madeleine.

by Jojo1 24.10.24 10:47

I popped into facebook last night. I wish I hadn't bothered as members of the MM groups were on the warpath against Bernt last night since the interview with Moxi. Poor Moxi was getting slated and they were totally discrediting Bernt. Basically they were saying stuff like he was regurgitating stuff that they already knew via the files, other researchers and their videos, and how Bernt was all a con, the many personas of Bernt, that the film's on the hill don't exist etc etc. Yet they were Quite happy to praise Crime knights videos and others.
Quite frankly, it was down childish and disrespectful and toxic.
don't like Facebook at the best of times but this behaviour was shocking from grown adults was nothing short of bullying.
I can't remember which group I saw all this on, but it's probably across the board
It wouldn't surprise me if those members are seeing here and there are an influx of newbies and hiding in plain sight.
Jill it might be worth keeping a close eye on that. Remember we had that argumentative bloke a few weeks back.
Genuine members don't behave with such vitriol.We respect everyone's view point and keep an open enquiring mind over what happened to Madeleine. Everyone's theories, hypotheses and viewpoints have validity.

by **Nina** 24.10.24 11:04

Jojo1 wrote:I popped into facebook last night. I wish I hadn't bothered as members of the MM groups were on the warpath against Bernt last night since the interview with Moxi. Poor Moxi was getting slated and they were totally discrediting Bernt. Basically they were saying stuff like he was regurgitating stuff that they already knew via the files, other researchers and their videos, and how Bernt was all a con, the many personas of Bernt, that the film's on the hill don't exist etc etc. Yet they were Quite happy to praise Crime knights videos and others.
Quite frankly, it was down childish and disrespectful and toxic.
don't like Facebook at the best of times but this behaviour was shocking from grown adults was nothing short of bullying.
I can't remember which group I saw all this on, but it's probably across the board
It wouldn't surprise me if those members are seeing here and there are an influx of newbies and hiding in plain sight.
Jill it might be worth keeping a close eye on that. Remember we had that argumentative bloke a few weeks back.
Genuine members don't behave with such vitriol.We respect everyone's view point and keep an open enquiring mind over what happened to Madeleine. Everyone's theories, hypotheses and viewpoints have validity.

Snipped from your post Jojo1,
childish and disrespectful and toxic

That says it all really. Keep away and stay safe.

by **Ladyinred** 24.10.24 11:05

#944
You're a newbie too, so we'll be keeping an eye on you winkwink

Did you contribute the discussion there, as in show your support for Bernt?

I'm really not interested in what's going on in FB, unless it's constructive and interesting.

There have always been "visitors" here who are promptly swatted or given the Bishop's boot once they become disruptive.

by **Nina** 24.10.24 11:10

Ladyinred wrote:You're a newbie too, so we'll be keeping an eye on you

Did you contribute the discussion there, as in show your support for Bernt?

I'm really not interested in what's going on in FB, unless it's constructive and interesting.

There have always been "visitors" here who are promptly swatted once they become disruptive.

Sometimes you scare me Ladyinred almost as much as Verdi did. I am on quite a few FB groups not linked to Madeleine and it seems to be quite common to attempt to discredit others regardless of the topic.

by **Ladyinred** 24.10.24 11:12

In what way do you feel scared by me?

by **Nina** 24.10.24 11:16

Ladyinred wrote:In what way do you feel scared by me?

Scared is maybe the wrong word though Verdi did scare me enough to be very cautious when posting to the point of not posting. I will go along with cautious though. Absolutely no offence meant.

by **Ladyinred** 24.10.24 11:22

You feel cautious about me. In what way?

I was responding to Jojo's post about Madeleine FB groups. Personally, I have no interest in 'he said, she said' on those groups as I don't find them helpful, but accept that some people do. Perhaps I have no right to comment on them as I have never visited those sites, fair enough.

by **BerntS** 24.10.24 11:32

Honesty.
Yes, they are..... It's an orchestrated campaign with the flying sofa in the driving seat.
Pat jumped on since it serves her refurbished book well.
Look at the tone in Pat's apology video, and then compare with the tone in the "review" video. Guess who wound her up for that shift of tone.... The rustic sofa contacted anyone with a pulse, to join in.
And she hasn't read the book.... Go figure.
But if course, for some, having spent 17 years on a rediculous sighting and missing obvious clues, is painful for someone taking themselves too serious. Aoife said long sleeves, but Maddie's pj barely had sleeves at all.

No shame in being wrong, and it's still admirable having fought for truth for almost 18 years.
But they're taking their legacy down by the green eyed monster. So they would love the mystery living on, as the truth would hurt their inflated egos.
Anyone know of one case Pat has "solved" in her carreer, before becoming a donation hugger. I'm sure there must be something there, cause it looks like a casino junkey who had a hit, but then lost their house and maybe the mind...

by Jojo1 24.10.24 11:36

Honesty wrote:
pinkgladioli wrote:
BerntS wrote:The fact that she nor Pat B read the book, should tell you a lot about their character.
It’s called being green eye’d monster’s and wanting to be TopDog’s rolled into one, I believe that’s why they didn’t read your book and instead chose to go down the route of an orchestrated discrediting campaign especially after how successful your JE interview was received

their behaviour has nothing to do with wanting to unravel what happened to Madeleine

Anyway onwards and Upwards Bernt!
Are you claiming that HiDeHo and PB are conducting an "orchestrated discrediting campaign" against Bernt?

It's simply green eyed monster syndrome and Top dog syndrome.
If they read Bernts Book they will understand that he isn't in this for fame or fortune He just wants Madeleines remains found and laid to rest properly and to do that the Timeline needs scrutiny, the words and actions of the tapas 9 need scrutiny. He has looked at the case with fresh eyes with great honesty, integrity and empathy alongside his proactive boots on the ground approach.
If Peter Mac has opened his mind, then that says a lot to me and puts me fully on board with Bernts work.
Yup...I have Bernt Syndrome 2thumbs

by **CaKeLoveR** 24.10.24 11:45

I don't know a thing about Facebook, or other Madeleine sites, but I get the impression that Madeleine is no more than a talking point for some people. They don't give a damn about her, imo, and don't want the case solved. What would they talk about then?

by Jojo1 24.10.24 12:16

Ladyinred wrote:#944
You're a newbie too, so we'll be keeping an eye on you

Did you contribute the discussion there, as in show your support for Bernt?

I'm really not interested in what's going on in FB, unless it's constructive and interesting.

There have always been "visitors" here who are promptly swatted or given the Bishop's boot once they become disruptive.

I've been here a few months and don't really consider myself to be a newbie as such. I was also here some years ago under a different user name before Iife took an unexpected turn. I rejoined when I had got used to my 'new normal' as well as having to use adaptive computer tech.
I didn't hang around long enough on facebook to pass comment in support of Bernt. I wish I had, but I don't get involved in their petty squabbles as that just feeds their vitriol and they love that. I just don't like bullies.

by **BerntS** 24.10.24 12:18

And for those sensitive to me hitting back, deal with it.
Pat called me a golf salesman and left my military police background out.
Anyone who looked at the cover of my book would know I'm an inventor and founder of a golf brand with multiple golf tech and alignment patents. I also mention my relative positioning technology, the TrollEye, which is now being developed for multiple applications including military, gaming, teaching, subsea, medicine, aviation and what have you.
I never sold a golf club in my life, but I have sold batches of a few hundred many many times.
If you think that's a fair description of me, then that's just something I have to deal with.

by **Jill Havern** 24.10.24 12:23

Nina wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:You're a newbie too, so we'll be keeping an eye on you

Did you contribute the discussion there, as in show your support for Bernt?

I'm really not interested in what's going on in FB, unless it's constructive and interesting.

There have always been "visitors" here who are promptly swatted once they become disruptive.
Sometimes you scare me Ladyinred almost as much as Verdi did. I am on quite a few FB groups not linked to Madeleine and it seems to be quite common to attempt to discredit others regardless of the topic.

Awwwww......no need to feel cautious about our lovely Ladyinred singlerose

by **Ladyinred** 24.10.24 12:27

Thank you, Jill

Glad you understand where I was coming from, you do know me a little.

Apologies if anyone is upset by my posts wasn't my intention heart

by **Jill Havern** 24.10.24 12:36

It was obvious to me you were winding Jojo up with your winkwink

Jojo has settled in nicely singlerose

by jazega 24.10.24 12:44

BerntS wrote:Hey Jaz. Thanks.
No. It took 6 to 8 seconds.
Watch next James English podcast. Coming soon.

Thanks for your reply

by **Nina** 24.10.24 12:50

Ladyinred wrote:You feel cautious about me. In what way?

I was responding to Jojo's post about Madeleine FB groups. Personally, I have no interest in 'he said, she said' on those groups as I don't find them helpful, but accept that some people do. Perhaps I have no right to comment on them as I have never visited those sites, fair enough.

No offence at all.
I know you were responding about FB groups and yes as I said I am on quite a few groups other than the Madeleine couple. Two from a professional viewpoint and they too sometimes have spats but as they are there to help and advise members and visitors so I still visit them on a daily basis.
The Madeleine groups though are made up of people from all walks of life some who have professional backgrounds dealing with law and order and child protection but still there will be spats.There are very good points for their existence but the group can very quickly become unsettled particularly if the flames of unrest are fanned by ''respected'' contributors. The admin box will be on high alert.

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