Re: New Madeleine McCann book will claim missing tot is already dead

by crusader 27.05.24 11:02

I don't know anything about Poulton causing trouble for the forum, I've never heard her say anything bad about it.
It was obviously before I joined.
is there a post where I can read about it?

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 11:12

Sonia's got her own section on this forum
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/f53-sonia-poulton-the-untold-story-of-madeleine-mccann-film

She may do some good work now, but that wasn't always the case...she's been aligned with some very dubious characters.

by crusader 27.05.24 11:17

Thanks Jill.

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 11:27

I will promote anyone, via this forum and my facebook groups, who are doing the right thing by Maddie McCann...but that doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss the bad things they do.

And if that makes this forum a Cesspit, then so be it. Just leave the death threats out of it.

by crusader 27.05.24 11:31

Quite right, the good and the bad.

by AnneCGuedes 27.05.24 11:49

Ladyinred wrote:Anne, do you believe Smithman was Gerry?

Yes, Ladyinred, evidence (especially the clumsy way of carrying the child) makes me think so.

by crusader 27.05.24 11:54

Do you think if it was Gerry, he was carrying the child in a deliberately clumsy way so as to throw anyone off who saw him @AnneCGuedes?
Tannerman was carrying the child in a clumsy way though

by Cake Lover 27.05.24 12:01

If the child was not Madeleine, I think she was sedated.

by Ladyinred 27.05.24 12:04

AnneCGuedes wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Anne, do you believe Smithman was Gerry?
Yes, Ladyinred, evidence (especially the clumsy way of carrying the child) makes me think so.

A dangerous, audacious, desperate course of action if so.

He would then have left Madeleine's dead body somewhere close, such as the cemetry, to join the rest of the group.

by crusader 27.05.24 12:08

But if Madeleine was already dead, she would have been hidden before the night of the 3rd.
Isn't that what the FD said, she died on the 2nd.

by Ladyinred 27.05.24 12:09

Yes, death on Wednesday 2nd.

Hidden in the apartment?

by crusader 27.05.24 12:10

I wouldn't have thought so myself, either the church or somewhere else, a freezer?

by **Jill Havern** 27.05.24 12:11

Ladyinred wrote:
AnneCGuedes wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Anne, do you believe Smithman was Gerry?
Yes, Ladyinred, evidence (especially the clumsy way of carrying the child) makes me think so.
A dangerous, audacious, desperate course of action if so.

He would then have left Madeleine's dead body somewhere close, such as the cemetry, to join the rest of the group.

A 'sudden impulse'.

The Priests know what happened - G Amaral.

by crusader 27.05.24 12:23

I'm convinced the priests know as well, but if it was confessed to them, they will never tell.

by AnneCGuedes 27.05.24 14:31

crusader wrote:Do you think if it was Gerry, he was carrying the child in a deliberately clumsy way so as to throw anyone off who saw him @AnneCGuedes?
Tannerman was carrying the child in a clumsy way though

Not deliberately at all,Crusader, the law of gravity demanded. Even in a coma there is still a certain amount of muscular tension. Smithman wouldn't have looked clumsy if he'd been carrying like Tannerman, the S would have thought the child was in a very bad state (because nobody spontaneously imagines walking down the street with a dead child against their shoulder).

by AnneCGuedes 27.05.24 14:43

Ladyinred wrote:
AnneCGuedes wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Anne, do you believe Smithman was Gerry?
Yes, Ladyinred, evidence (especially the clumsy way of carrying the child) makes me think so.
A dangerous, audacious, desperate course of action if so.

He would then have left Madeleine's dead body somewhere close, such as the cemetry, to join the rest of the group.

Desperate and foolish. In a matter of minutes, Smithman had to abandon the simplest solution, water, and dispose of the body in such a way that no one would discover it (he knew that a search would take place immediately), ruining the abduction argument. He had little choice.

by crusader 02.06.24 12:16

My son just told me the estimated arrival for my book is 19th to 25th June.
Outrageous, I want it now. Hissyfit

by Cake Lover 02.06.24 12:35

!! That seems ridiculous to me.

by Ladyinred 02.06.24 12:41

Hopefully due to high demand.

I read on a gossip site, where the case is being discussed, that third week of June is earliest delivery date. A few knowledgeable posters there.

by **Jill Havern** 02.06.24 13:02

crusader wrote:My son just told me the estimated arrival for my book is 19th to 25th June.
Outrageous, I want it now.

Awww, that's too bad. empathy

Just goes to show you that you need to bestest buddies with PeterMac.
I got mine within 4 days nails

by Cake Lover 02.06.24 13:07

The book has had some awful reviews on Reddit, from people who think the McCann's are innocent, or that C.B. is guilty. They were so quick to comment that I don't think they had time to buy and read it.

by **Jill Havern** 02.06.24 13:16

Jill Havern wrote:
crusader wrote:My son just told me the estimated arrival for my book is 19th to 25th June.
Outrageous, I want it now.
Awww, that's too bad.

Just goes to show you that you need to bestest buddies with PeterMac.
I got mine within 4 days

Having said I don't think even Sharon has got her copy yet...she hasn't said.

Clearly not a bestest buddy then.

by **PeterMac** 02.06.24 15:00

crusader wrote:But if Madeleine was already dead, she would have been hidden before the night of the 3rd.
Isn't that what the FD said, she died on the 2nd.

Yes.
That is exactly what he says,
AND that she was hidden that same night - 2nd (or after midnight if we are being absolutely accurate and spitting hairs making it early hours of 3rd)
He tells us where - or rather points out the quote from one of the Tapas who Tells us where. As they tell us she died on 2nd.