Re: Was Madeleine seen after Sunday?

by **Verdi** on 06.08.19 21:56

happybiscuit big grin

- brilliant!

What are you .... a digestive a rich tea a ginger snap a chocolate chip or a garibaldi? Whatever I hope you're dunkable.

high5

by **sharonl** on 07.08.19 0:04

@Verdi wrote:happybiscuit - brilliant!

What are you .... a digestive a rich tea a ginger snap a chocolate chip or a garibaldi? Whatever I hope you're dunkable.

I found him Verdi, with his twin nod

Was Madeleine seen after Sunday? - Page 24 OaznctFk

by **Verdi** on 07.08.19 1:43

That's one cool cookie ^^^ thumbsup

by ROSA on 09.08.19 14:59

@Phoebe wrote:Where I run into problems with death on Sunday is when I consider the enormous unnecessary risks the whole group would have to have been running in trying to pretend Madeleine was there all week when she wasn't.
I can't believe ALL the nannies, tennis coaches and sailing coaches could have been party to this deception. All it would have taken was any of these to ask the children their names so they could address them by name - in a game or coaching session say - and the game would have been up!!
I also cannot believe the Tapas 9 could have behaved normally, played tennis, gone to and from the creche, taken the children to the playground, breakfasted in the Millenium, dined each night, enjoyed socialising in the Tapas Bar etc. with sang froid, all the while knowing they were covering up such a crime.
I cannot understand why they took all the kids to the beach on the very afternoon of the day Madeleine was to go missing. They must have known that the police would home in on that last day and afternoon, yet they removed all their kids, leaving Madeleine supposedly alone in the creche. It just doesn't ring true to me, try as I may.

Considering the entire group all decided to cover up her death on Sunday (in theory) that means they are all criminally involved immediately and the evidence points to a massive cover up which lasted only 4-5 days.

They had to plan out the rest of their stay at the resort and include Madeleine some how so signing her in and out of creche was no big deal Tanners little girl looked so much like Madeleine and by using that child ( in theory ) they could easily fool everyone including all the Nannies and Coaches so was this possible ?
I would say yes

by **Tony Bennett** on 09.08.19 15:23

@ROSA wrote:

They had to plan out the rest of their stay at the resort and include Madeleine some how so signing her in and out of creche was no big deal. Tanner's little girl looked so much like Madeleine and by using that child (in theory) they could easily fool everyone including all the Nannies and Coaches so was this possible? I would say yes

The facts are that Catriona Baker was in sole charge of the Lobsters Group, in which Madeleine was placed on the Sunday.

Thanks to Netflix, we now have a photo of Madeleine at play with the Lobsters Group on the Sunday morning, in the 'Giant Balloon' session.

The idea that Catriona Baker could be 'fooled' into mistaking 'Tanner's little girl' [Ella O'Brien] (as Lizzy HideHo Taylor has suggested) is fanciful.

Besides this, we have good circumstantial evidence that the McCanns and Cat Baker all knew each other long before the Praia da Luz holiday.

Undoubtedly the creche records of the Lobsters group were forged.

All it needed for this to happen is for Cat Baker to organise the fake entries, no doubt with help of some of the Tapas9 group and also of course with the top brass at Mark Warner and the Ocean Club. Such a forgery needed to be authorised at a high level. The best excuse we can make for Cat Baker is that she was 'obeying orders'

by ROSA on 09.08.19 15:35

Thank you Tony for clearing everything up for me I really appreciate it .
Tony wrote
Thanks to Netflix, we now have a photo of Madeleine at play with the Lobsters Group on the Sunday morning, in the 'Giant Balloon' session.
Could you please inform me where I can see the image please ?
THANKS IN ADVANCE

by **Jill Havern** on 09.08.19 15:38

Was Madeleine seen after Sunday? - Page 24 1_made10

It's actually a parachute pic rather than balloon I think.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/madeleine-mccanns-last-hours-revealed-14139897

by **Verdi** on 09.08.19 16:04

It's a hot air balloon donated by Virgin aeronautics big grin

.

On that note - I'm now walking away ....

by **Tony Bennett** on 09.08.19 19:12

@ROSA wrote:Thank you Tony for clearing everything up for me I really appreciate it .
Tony wrote
Thanks to Netflix, we now have a photo of Madeleine at play with the Lobsters Group on the Sunday morning, in the 'Giant Balloon' session.
Could you please inform me where I can see the image please ?
THANKS IN ADVANCE

I think I tried to Google 'Netflix' 'Madeleine' 'McCann' 'photo' 'balloon' - and if you do that, all the articles about Netflix appear and most of them have the image we are talking about within their articles.

As a matter of interest, some of the papers do state that the photograph was taken on the Sunday - which agrees entirely with what we know about the weather that week (and with the creche records)

by **sharonl** on 09.08.19 20:12

Who is in this photograph?

Can we be 100% certain that Madeleine is there? Who is with her?

Could this photograph have been taken later?

by Ladyinred on 09.08.19 20:29

I too am sceptical of the veracity of this photo.

Is that really CB? Looks like an older woman to me.

by **Verdi** on 10.08.19 1:01

The photograph didn't see the light of day until the Netflix film.

If it was/is authentic, i.e. Madeleine McCann pictured with other children and Catriona Baker, it would have been splashed across the headlines years ago.

I'd go so far as to say, it would feature somewhere in the PJ files.

A witness statement was taken during the rogatory process in April 2008, there was no mention of anything related by Neil Berry in the Netflix film.

Why was Neil Berry used for the Netflix production? On the surface he was not in any way concerned or involved with the case.

Maybe they made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

Whatever, this photograph doesn't signify.