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Post by Liz Eagles 24.05.24 13:45

Jill Havern wrote:
Silentscope wrote:Why would Alan Elsdon or even Nick Van der Leek who are in South Africa use a Portuguese Publisher?

Their accents woud not fit with the Foreign Detective.

He sounds Belgian or Dutch to me.
Just reading a chapter where he's going on about a Raven.

Which is what Nick van der Leek did in one of his books.
There has always been a South African element. Look back at the ghastly Stephen Birch and then remember Jim Gamble, who for some reason known only to himself used Table Mountain on his web presence.
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Post by Bird131 24.05.24 14:56

Liz, your comment brought a sincere smile. Here in South Africa, our crime rate is one of the highest in the world. One would think we have enough to keep us busy, but the McCann case is just 'something else' and any 'unsolved case', is a private investigator's nightmare. Who knows, with the seemingly remarkable effort the FD has placed on the table, we might soon be pleasantly surprised.
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Post by Silentscope 24.05.24 15:05

Can anyone in SA confirm when Danie Krugel will be returning to PDL?

I gather his Machine is now Patented where as before it was not?

Source: http://www.daniekrugelfacts.com/

Press Release 10 February 2020

Danie Krügel granted US Patent for his “Revolutionary Device”

Read the full release here.

A decade of behind-the-scenes effort pays off in the ultimate stamp of approval and authenticity; the global standard in legitimacy.
More than ten years ago, Danie Krügel shocked the world and became the focus of an international media frenzy when he unveiled a device that could find missing people, based purely on a sample of their DNA. The device that became unofficially known as the Matter Orientation System (MOS) machine was based on the murky and often paradoxical world of quantum mechanics.
The media attention that followed Danie Krügel’s announcement only intensified when he successfully located male and female human remains believed to be those of the missing Gert van Rooyen victims in Capital Park in Pretoria. The media furore surrounding Danie Krügel of course reached fever pitch when he became involved in the Madeleine McCann investigation at the behest of parents, Gerry and Kate McCann.
Although Danie Krügel soon amassed a spectacular success rate in finding people (a fact that spurred the British publication, The News of the World, to dub him, The Locator), the public’s reaction varied between cautious belief, incredulity and outright accusations that Danie Krügel was a charlatan and opportunist – even though he never demanded any money for his services. Considering the esoteric and unusual nature of MOS technology this pessimism was understandable.
And then. Suddenly, at the height of Danie Krügel’s media prominence, he disappeared out of the limelight. Finally, the critics of Danie Krügel’s revolutionary device felt justified. His sudden silence appeared to confirm that his quantum device was nothing but a hoax.
But Danie Krügel’s MOS machine was anything but a hoax and his “retreat” out of the intense media glare was a calculated move. He realised, in order to make full use of his device, obtaining the intellectual property rights was crucial. The inventor of the sensational MOS machine had been using the last decade to not only refine his device (and to create other devices also based on the mind-boggling arena of quantum physics) but possibly more importantly, to follow the rigorous process to legitimise his invention by obtaining the legal rights through the gruelling process of securing the patents.
And now, twelve years after Danie Krügel first made international headlines, he has achieved one of the most important milestones in his calculated journey: the United States patent for “A Method and Device for detecting a material at a distance” has been granted.
The US patent not only guarantees Danie Krügel sole ownership and the right to market his device commercially in the United States, but it’s also the ultimate seal of approval. Besides being a certification of the legitimacy and authenticity of Danie Krügel’s Matter Orientation System, the granting of the US patent has been a critical step in his efforts to take his business globally and to operate successfully on the international stage. (The South African patent has been secured for some time now.)
The US patent for “A METHOD AND DEVICE FOR DETECTING A MATERIAL AT A DISTANCE”, filed under the application number of 15/557,850 is the result of an arduous and time-consuming process of verification, experimentation, and third-party corroboration that involved experts from across the world. In 2014 an independent panel of scientists performed a meticulous series of “double-blind” tests on one of Danie Krügel’s prototypes. The extensive tests focused on samples of Cyanide, diamonds and a specific variety of yeast. All three tests delivered conclusive and irrefutable proof of the device’s accuracy. Following the success of the panel’s findings, Danie Krügel approached various experts from across the world for further input and corroboration, including one of the world’s most renowned academics from one of Great Britain’s most illustrious universities. It was only after this comprehensive process of authentication that Danie Krügel finally proceeded to the next step of securing the patent for his device. (Thus far, he has secured patents in 19 countries, including the USA, with patents in 80 other counties pending.)
The company that will be responsible for producing, marketing and licensing the device is Quantum Detection Solutions (QDS), located in Austin, Texas. All business regarding the device will be driven from the Austin headquarters. It is Danie Krügel’s intention to focus exclusively on corporate work via QDS.
The QDS device is only one of several devices that Danie Krügel has created. In addition, he has invented other ground-breaking devices. One will focus exclusively on cancer prevention through early cancer detection. In fact, Danie Krügel has already achieved some remarkable success in the field of research, specifically with regard to early cancer detection.
Another device that Danie Krügel has developed will be applied in the field of oil exploration. This includes the location of deposits of minerals as well as precious metals. The field of oil exploration is a notoriously hit-and-miss industry and will benefit hugely from Danie Krügel’s quantum device. The successful US patent that has been granted will now allow QDS to become actively involved in international oil exploration. In fact, QDS has already proven itself in the field of oil exploration after a series of highly successful tests that were carried out on oilfields in Europe and the USA.
Even though QDS will be focusing almost exclusively on corporate work, both the van Rooyen and the McCann cases are extremely important to Danie Krügel, especially as a result of his earlier involvement with both cases. As a result, QDS will be making a concerted effort to apply their patented technology to bring closure and finality to these two infamous cases, once and for all. This is something that is very dear to Danie Krügel. QDS has indicated that the public can expect some shocking revelations with regard to both cases.
Another area in which the QDS technology has proven especially effective is in the detection of contagious and communicable diseases. Under the watchful eye of a local South African actuality show, QDS was able to obtain a sample of a harmless bacteria from a local state institution. The bacteria was scanned and was subsequently successfully detected. The test proved conclusively that the patented QDS technology can be adapted to scan any building, area or vehicle for any virus or bacteria. The QDS technology is especially effective in scanning airplanes and airports and detecting the presence of highly contagious and fatal viruses like Ebola, Avian Flu and the Coronavirus. In fact, QDS is ready to employ their patented device in the battle against the current outbreak of the Coronavirus that is threatening to overwhelm health services across the world. The Austin-based company is more than willing to submit its technology to any state-sponsored due diligence tests in order to assist countries in the early detection of the fast spreading Coronavirus. Employing the QDS device, airport authorities can now scan each and every airplane that lands at its airports and has the potential to become the world’s single most effective weapon in the battle to halt the spread of the deadly Coronavirus.
Danie Krügel’s devices are all based on various principles of quantum mechanics. More specifically, it is the application of enigmatic and secretive “formulae” that is at the heart of these devices. It is precisely these formulae, discovered by and known only to Danie Krügel and the QDS team, that are the secret to the spectacular performance of his various quantum devices. With regards to the often-bizarre world of quantum physics, one of the most prominent principles (utilised by some of the QDS devices) is the theory of QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT, a phenomenon that Einstein himself described as “spooky action at a distance”. In essence, with specific regard to the QDS device, (and simplistically stated) once something (organic or inorganic) is divided into separate pieces, on whatever level, from the molecular to the visible, these “pieces” retain a link or connection with each other, which is not only permanent but active over any distance, no matter how large. (A change in state of one part of the whole will instantaneously affect all the other parts, no matter how enormous the distance, and with immediate effect.) In the case of a missing person, QDS only requires a verified sample of that person’s DNA for the device to find the person. The same principle applies in the case of inorganic, or at least inanimate matter like oil, diamonds or precious metals.
Danie Krügel and the QDS team are especially excited about the application of their devices in the early detection of cancer. The QDS device has produced very promising results and Danie Krügel and his team are expecting to make a significant impact in this contentious field. In fact, the patented QDS technology promises to become a game changer in the area of early cancer detection.
(More press releases to follow.)
END
FOR ENQUIRIES, BUSINESS PROPOSALS, INTERVIEWS OR FURTHER INFORMATION REGARDING QDS AND ITS PATENTED TECHNOLOGY, PLEASE CONTACT:
VERNON W. BAUMANN
E-mail - vwbcomm@gmail.com
Twitter - @QDS_WeFinditAll



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Post by Liz Eagles 24.05.24 15:31

Wasn't Danie Krugel someone who claimed he could find Madeleine from her hairbrush?

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Post by Silentscope 24.05.24 16:44

Yes, a hairbrush he actually gave back to Martin Brunt.
Hopefully he kept a few Hairs for himself?

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-site-was-identified-in-2007-10401293
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Post by Silentscope 24.05.24 16:49

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Post by Bird131 25.05.24 11:42

Silentscope, I'll contact Danie ask whether he is 'back on the case.'
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Post by Silentscope 25.05.24 18:15

Baia Dankie Bird
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Post by Bird131 25.05.24 19:40

Hi Silentscope #178, I contacted DK and although he did not go into any details, his reply (to your question), was a firm "Jip."
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Post by crusader 25.05.24 20:04

That should prove interesting.
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Post by Silentscope 25.05.24 21:02

At least with multiple Patents and now PROVEN Technology any results should prove very interesting indeed.

Thanks again Bird!

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Post by Jill Havern 25.05.24 21:15

Have you started reading your book yet Sharon?

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Post by sharonl 25.05.24 22:07

Jill Havern wrote:Have you started reading your book yet Sharon?

It hasn't arrived yet Jill.
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Post by Jill Havern 26.05.24 12:03

As Bernt Stellander's new book 'The Sudden Impulse' is being discussed on this forum, and it is clearly an extension of Ben Salmon's work 'The House on the Black Rock' - although the House isn't part of his final investigation, nor was it the initial 'sudden impulse' hiding spot using the fridge freezer...I would say this blog article from 2016 is what spurred Bernt to investigate in the first instance...

https://h42a.wordpress.com/2016/12/28/black/

...it is interesting to note that Verdi was also steering us away from this 2016 topic or, at least, wasn't overly thrilled about it being discussed...

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13362-the-house-on-the-black-rock?highlight=Rocha+negro

So, just posting this for reference...nothing else.

I mention Ben's 2016 research only because Bernt has gone several steps further, over many years, than Ben obviously could because a) he lived in the UK and b) he died prematurely, and he (Bernt) set up field cameras, started a cat and mouse game with the McCanns by sending anonymous emails to them, and ultimately captured them on film at several sites that Bernt decided were for 'memorial' purposes before locating a site that now requires further investigation with digging and cadaver dogs.

RIP Ben  singlerose

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Post by Cake Lover 26.05.24 12:26

If I have got this right, Madeleine is buried on a hill. Why choose an elevated position to dig a grave, bring a body to, and inter. Low ground would ne preferable, surely?
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Post by Silentscope 26.05.24 12:37

High up - nearer to Heaven?
Easier to see if anyone is following or observing you?
Any more?
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Post by Ladyinred 26.05.24 12:39

Jill Havern wrote:As Bernt Stellander's new book 'The Sudden Impulse' is being discussed on this forum, and it is clearly an extension of Ben Salmon's work 'The House on the Black Rock' - although the House isn't part of his final investigation, nor was it the initial 'sudden impulse' hiding spot using the fridge freezer...I would say this blog article from 2016 is what spurred Bernt to investigate in the first instance...

https://h42a.wordpress.com/2016/12/28/black/

...it is interesting to note that Verdi was also steering us away from this 2016 topic or, at least, wasn't overly thrilled about it being discussed...

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13362-the-house-on-the-black-rock?highlight=Rocha+negro

So, just posting this for reference...nothing else. 

I mention Ben's 2016 research only because Bernt has gone several steps further, over many years, than Ben obviously could because a) he lived in the UK and b) he died prematurely, and he (Bernt) set up field cameras, started a cat and mouse game with the McCanns by sending anonymous emails to them, and ultimately captured them on film at several sites that Bernt decided were for 'memorial' purposes before locating a site that now requires further investigation with digging and cadaver dogs.

RIP Ben  singlerose
I was reading the Black Rock thread earlier today and noticed that too regarding Verdi.
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Post by Cake Lover 26.05.24 12:46

It's not a location I would choose, but maybe the F.D.'s websites will throw some light on why it was selected, if indeed it was.
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Post by Cake Lover 26.05.24 12:47

Ben did a lot of research, his death was very sad. RIP.
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Post by Jill Havern 26.05.24 16:21

Verdi wrote:I see Kruger on a level with Birch and his wizard body detecting machine - a bit of a joke!  So the Kruger package  came complete with a recommendation from the South African police and minister for justice?  Well, any country that continues into the 21st century being heavily influenced by voodooism, then I guess Kruger's body diviner is a very useful tool in SA policing.

Just noticed this comment on the thread I posted earlier - Verdi belittling Kruger, as usual.

I remember watching the documentary 'Fred and Rose West: Reopened' a few years ago with Colin Sutton heading the investigation...and he used one of these ground-penetrating machines and found 2 more bodies underneath the patio (actually, it might have been under the garage floor)...but, anyway, he used one of these machines.

A seven-month investigation led by former Scotland Yard Detective Chief Inspector Colin Sutton discovered two new potential graves using ground penetrating radar machines and cadaver dogs.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/fred-west-police-bodies-20-victims-buried-gloucester-b954923.html#:~:text=A%20seven-month%20investigation%20led%20by%20former%20Scotland%20Yard,where%20Fred%20claimed%20to%20have%20buried%2012%20bodies.

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Post by Ladyinred 26.05.24 16:34

Jill Havern wrote:
Verdi wrote:I see Kruger on a level with Birch and his wizard body detecting machine - a bit of a joke!  So the Kruger package  came complete with a recommendation from the South African police and minister for justice?  Well, any country that continues into the 21st century being heavily influenced by voodooism, then I guess Kruger's body diviner is a very useful tool in SA policing.

Just noticed this comment on the thread I posted earlier - Verdi belittling Kruger, as usual.

I remember watching the documentary 'Fred and Rose West: Reopened' a few years ago with Colin Sutton heading the investigation...and he used one of these ground-penetrating machines and found 2 more bodies underneath the patio (actually, it might have been under the garage floor)...but, anyway, he used one of these machines.

A seven-month investigation led by former Scotland Yard Detective Chief Inspector Colin Sutton discovered two new potential graves using ground penetrating radar machines and cadaver dogs.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/fred-west-police-bodies-20-victims-buried-gloucester-b954923.html#:~:text=A%20seven-month%20investigation%20led%20by%20former%20Scotland%20Yard,where%20Fred%20claimed%20to%20have%20buried%2012%20bodies.
It's interesting reading some of the old threads.  I've been reading a few more this afternoon -  the rock, hills and running.  One poster wrote, ten years ago, that Kate was emotionally attached to the rocks.

Off topic, sorry.
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Post by Jill Havern 26.05.24 16:42

Bernt's belief is that Gerry's 'sudden impulse' was to bury Maddie at sea - but Kate, being Catholic, said Nope, she must have a grave and memorial.

It's easy to see who's going to be blamed if/when this all kicks off. Gerry has more to lose now than Kate apparently does.

eta: I'll sort the thread out later, perhaps.

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Post by AnneCGuedes 26.05.24 17:02

Evidence shows that burying in the ocean was the intention, the water level is low (see M. Harrison), the ocean would have brought it back, conveniently washed, and funerals could have occurred. But Smithman met 9 individuals..
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Post by Ladyinred 26.05.24 17:19

Anne, do you believe Smithman was Gerry?
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Post by Cake Lover 26.05.24 17:29

I don't know where the F.D. thinks the 'sudden impulse' took place, in the unfolding of events, but I think that it was early on - to cover up Madeleine's death.
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Post by Silentscope 26.05.24 17:34

Dr Amaral believed 'Smithman' was maybe looking for a FREEZER.

From 'The Interpretation of Murder' by Jed Rubenfeld.

"In this heat, he explained, decomposition would rapidly set in if the corpse was not refrigerated at once." (p.28).

Source: https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16425-gerry-mccann-s-bedside-reading-the-interpretation-of-murder

If the McCanns are as devout as they claim, and a Priest had been requested, then the 'Last Rites' would have to be performed before any form of disposal could take place, or?
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Post by Ladyinred 26.05.24 17:43

Where have the parents ever claimed they are devout Catholics?

As far as I am aware, they have never said this.  They are not devout Catholics, IMO.  A Catholic priest would not carry out Last Rites in the scenario you describe - before disposal of the body.
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Post by Jill Havern 26.05.24 17:48

Amaral: "The Priests know very well what happened"

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Post by Jill Havern 26.05.24 17:51



Didn't he later have a meltdown because he was betrayed or something?

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Post by crusader 26.05.24 17:52

Kate's mum denied they were devout Catholics, but that is irrelevant as far as the last rights were concerned, the priest would have given the last rights to Madeleine if he was asked.
Madeleine was Christened Catholic and was entitled to receive  the last rights.
Actualluy LadyinRed, you are right. A priest can't administer the last rights on a dead body that had been dead for over an hour.
He could however pray for her soul.
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