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Post by Keelafreeze 30.10.23 17:48

So, the main piece of evidence linking CB to Madeleine’s disappearance is a phone pinging nearby (but without exact location being know).
If phone’s are that important to the investigation then maybe they should ask why so many messages and call logs from the Tapas 9 were deleted. That would be the next logical route to go down. Unless, of course, it’s a blatant cover up from on high.
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Post by sandancer 30.10.23 17:57

No mention of Eddie and Keela then ?  😂😂😂😂

Here Wolters " thinks " a lot ,  has bits and pieces of " evidence " but not all joined together yet then ? 

His " concrete " has completely crumbled he's showing himself to be a buffoon ! 

Poor Madeleine .

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Post by crusader 30.10.23 18:08

It look's very much like the Portuguese police are very much distancing themselves from Dr. Amaral.
Apart from the apology, nothing else has changed in relation to Brueckner.
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Post by Guest 30.10.23 18:14

sandancer wrote:No mention of Eddie and Keela then ?  😂😂😂😂

Here Wolters " thinks " a lot ,  has bits and pieces of " evidence " but not all joined together yet then ? 

His " concrete " has completely crumbled he's showing himself to be a buffoon ! 

Poor Madeleine .

Would you believe Eddie and Keela are mentioned in the Panorama mockuplenty, of course not by Wolters but thingy Bilton, it's half way through where I stopped watching earlier - half an hour of junk is enough for me in one session. I've just gone back to say what's said and the video has died on me. I took a screenshot of this before it died..

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Post by Guest 30.10.23 18:22

The show is up and running again, Bilton says nothing about the dog search but it's reason for making the McCanns PRIME SUSPECTS !!!.

We then have video coverage of their arrival at the station for questioning early September 2007 (the McCanns that is, not the dogs) - it's a goody because you can clearly hear locals gathered to watch the scene hissing and booing.

Oooops.
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Post by Guest 30.10.23 19:55

Portuguese police apologise to Madeleine McCann’s parents

Gerry and Kate McCann met officers in London


Isambard Wilkinson, Madrid
Monday October 30 2023, 10.15am GMT, The Times

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Kate and Gerry McCann were accused by Portuguese police of kidnapping their daughter
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More than 16 years after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal, the country’s police have offered an apology to her parents for the way they handled the case and accusing them of staging her kidnapping.

A delegation of senior officers travelled from Lisbon to London earlier this year, the BBC reported, although Portuguese media said that Luis Neves, the national director of the national criminal investigation police agency of Portugal, denied that there was an apology. He acknowledged that there was contact between the investigators and the parents.


The McCann family has not commented on the apology and their daughter’s disappearance remains unsolved.

In September 2007, four months after Madeleine, 3, vanished, Kate and Gerry McCann were made suspects in the Portuguese investigation. Both were questioned by detectives, who believed they had staged an abduction and concealed Madeleine’s body. The McCanns have always denied any wrongdoing.

The McCanns — named arguidos, or formal suspects — were finally cleared in July 2008, when the Portuguese police investigation was shelved because of lack of evidence.

Portuguese police said their initial investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance was not handled properly, there was insufficient importance given at the time to missing children and that her parents’ position as foreigners in an environment they did not understand was not appreciated. They also said they had briefed the McCanns on their ongoing investigation.

In 2015, the couple won more than £350,000 in libel damages over allegations that they were involved in the disappearance of their daughter. Separately, they were also awarded £550,000 in damages for false allegations against them published by Express Newspapers in the UK.

Gonçalo Amaral, a Portuguese detective, claimed in his book and a documentary that they had covered up Madeleine’s death after she went missing in Praia da Luz, a holiday resort in the Algarve.

A Lisbon court ruled that Amaral should pay the McCanns €250,000 (£179,000) each in damages, and has banned further sales of his book, The Truth of the Lie.

Amaral, who led the initial investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance, released his book three days after the case was closed in July 2008. He later took part in a documentary for Portuguese television in which he claimed that Madeleine was dead, that there had been no abduction and that the McCanns had hidden her body.

Gerry and Kate McCann, a cardiologist and former GP, won a ruling in Lisbon in 2010 to ban sales of the book, which was overturned later the same year. They also launched a libel action against Amaral, who was sacked from the investigation after months of blunders — claiming that they and their family had suffered emotional and psychological harm as a result of his claims.

Giving evidence at the Palace of Justice in Lisbon in 2014, the couple spoke of their “devastation, desperation, anxiety and pain” over the allegations. They also maintained that the book and documentary had reduced support from the Portuguese people as they searched for their daughter. They accused Amaral of defamation, of breaching their human rights and of being a “self-obsessed, manipulative money-grabber”.

The McCann’s libel case against the former detective over the claims he made about them in his book was thrown out by the Portuguese supreme court. The couple appealed to the European Court of Human Rights but lost that challenge in September 2022.

Efforts to prosecute Christian Brueckner, a convicted rapist suspected of abducting and killing Madeleine, for five other offences restarted last month after a ruling in a German court.

The case against Brueckner was thrown into doubt after a court in Braunschweig ruled in April that it had no responsibility for hearing the new trial because Brueckner’s last place of residence was a dilapidated farm in another part of Germany rather than in Braunschweig, where he had lived previously.

That would have left it up to a court in the state of Saxony-Anhalt to prosecute Brueckner, leading to speculation over the impact of any delay on a possible future trial over Madeleine’s disappearance.

But a higher regional court ruled that the Braunschweig court did have jurisdiction, following an appeal by the Braunschweig state prosecutor’s office, which has been investigating Brueckner over the alleged abduction of Madeleine and for other violent offences.

As a result, Brueckner, 46, who is serving a seven-year sentence for rape, can be prosecuted on five other charges, all of which he denied — including the alleged rape of a 14-year-old German girl and allegedly molesting an 11-year-old girl at a folk festival.

Brueckner has always denied any involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance. The Braunschweig prosecutor’s office has yet to gather enough evidence to file charges against Brueckner over Madeleine’s disappearance.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/madeleine-mccann-parents-apology-portuguese-police-c5drv6gh5
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PJ police confirm “steps continuing” in case of missing Madeleine McCann


By Natasha Donn - 30th October 2023

Detectives have reportedly “apologised” for handling of case

In a statement issued today, Portugal’s PJ judicial police have clarified that “steps are continuing” as part of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, “to fully clarify the situation”.

The statement comes after the BBC in UK reports that “Portuguese police have apologised to the parents of Madeleine McCann for the way they handled the three-year-old’s disappearance”.

None of this is mentioned in the PJ statement, which simply explains “that, as part of the investigation into the disappearance of an English child in the Algarve in 2007, steps are continuing to be taken to fully clarify the situation”.

The short text continues: “In this context, and as has been made public in due course, in close liaison with the German (BKA) and English (Metropolitan Police) authorities, formal investigation and forensic tests have been carried out in Portugal and abroad, as well as sharing information and revisiting testimonies.

“As is also normal in this type of situation and in line with good practice, face-to-face contacts were made with the relatives of the missing child, providing – only – the procedural situation within the scope of the ongoing inquiry pending before the Faro District Public Prosecutor’s Office”.

According to the BBC, “a delegation of senior officers travelled from Lisbon to London earlier this year. They met Gerry McCann, Madeleine’s father, and apologised for the way detectives investigated the case and treated the family.

“The McCann family has not commented on the apology and their daughter’s disappearance remains unsolved.

“Portuguese police now say their initial investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance was not handled properly, there was insufficient importance given at the time to missing children and that her parents’ position as foreigners in an environment they did not understand was not appreciated”, the BBC’s report goes on.

Anyone who remembers those days and weeks following Madeleine’s disappearance will recall the massive press pack camped in Praia da Luz, and the apparent extreme importance given by authorities, both Portuguese and British, to the child’s disappearance. Thus why this reference to “insufficient importance” comes now – 16 years after the little girl went missing without apparent trace – is unclear. There do not appear to be any new leads in this mystery in spite of the flurry of activity around the Arade dam earlier this year.

Reiterating that the Portuguese police “have now admitted that the investigation was not conducted correctly”, the BBC’s report ends with the information that “after years of investigation, Portuguese officers this year backed the German authorities, who believe that German Christian Brueckner (sic) murdered the child”.

This is something that Mr Brückner himself has consistently denied.

The BBC’s report concludes that “Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor in the case, welcomed Portugal’s apology, saying: “It’s a good sign. It shows that there is progress in the McCann case in Portugal”.

Again this observation is not immediately borne out by the content of the PJ statement.

https://www.portugalresident.com/pj-police-confirm-steps-continuing-in-case-of-missing-madeleine-mccann/

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Post by crusader 30.10.23 20:26

That's two out of 3, just need the Met statement now.
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Post by Rogue-a-Tory 30.10.23 20:29

What a load of old tosh, waste of 60 minutes that you'll never get back with all the old Team Mc rolled out - Mitchell, Corner, Edgar, Dogs Sandra etc etc
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Post by sharonl 30.10.23 22:13

Where is this apology?  Is there any evidence of it?

If an apology has been made, where has it come from?  
Amaral's team who worked on the initial investigation?
The review team in Portimao who were allegedly working with the met? 
One corrupt Portuguese officer

or is this just media spin?

Verity wrote:"We think that he was involved in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and we think that he murdered Madeleine McCann," Mr Wolters said.


thinking  "We think"?

We don't really know?

Why not, "we have strong evidence to suggest"?
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Post by crusader 30.10.23 22:39

Well whether there was an apology or not, something seems to be happening.
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Post by sharonl 30.10.23 22:46

crusader wrote:Well whether there was an apology or not, something seems to be happening.

thinking   A final coverup?
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Post by crusader 30.10.23 23:00

If we can believe what's been said, it certainly looks like Portugal, Germany and the Met are up to something, why now after all this time.
We will have to wait and see if there is any more about it in the next few day's.
It's not a coincidence the statements are released on the same day as the Panorama film is released.
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Post by sharonl 30.10.23 23:04

crusader wrote:If we can believe what's been said, it certainly looks like Portugal, Germany and the Met are up to something, why now after all this time.
We will have to wait and see if there is any more about it in the next few day's.
It's not a coincidence the statements are released on the same day as the Panorama film is released.

It has always been about the media and making documentaries. Maybe the big question should be not, what happened to Madeleine McCann, but why?
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Post by Guest 31.10.23 0:11

Rogue-a-Tory wrote:What a load of old tosh, waste of 60 minutes that you'll never get back with all the old Team Mc rolled out - Mitchell, Corner, Edgar, Dogs Sandra etc etc

Amen - post of the day!

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Post by Guest 31.10.23 0:14

Mark Williams-Thomas breaks wind again..

'Go find the evidence and charge him, or shut up!' | Former Cop gives warning to German prosecutor



I'll give him one thing, at least he rubbishes Wolters version of events.
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Post by Guest 31.10.23 0:24

crusader wrote:Well whether there was an apology or not, something seems to be happening.

Nothing is happening, it's just media spin spin .

GB News refer to the Panorama show as a bombshell documentary - how can it be a bombshell when it's nothing but a compilation of past media/press spin.

You thought the media/press to be bad news - you ain't sen nothing yet.  Cast your eyes in the direction of the Middle East, in polite society I think it's called propaganda.
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Post by PeterMac 31.10.23 6:52

A lot of the programme looked like "Jon Clarke - the Musical"

same old tosh trotted out, and no examination of any facts worthy of the name.
The dogs were shown, but ignored, as was the Pool photo, and so far as I could see no mention of the endless conflicting stories from the main suspects.
Just Wolters saying in effect he 'thinks' he 'might' have enough evidence to go head next year.  (Where have we seen that before, two years ago. Oh Yes,  The Olive Press !)

And although they mentioned the case against Amaral, no mention of the fact that they lost, 
lost again, 
lost again, 
and then lost finally.
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Post by PeterMac 31.10.23 6:59

I am sure John Coxon will forgive me for copying his FB post over to here.

What Really Happened to Madeleine McCann
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Sent to the BBC................
Morning,
Perhaps in the interests of balance the BBC could produce another mockumentary explaining the following.
1/ why on earth the PJ should "apologise" for merely doing their jobs - I'm reliably informed they did no such thing ,yet another lie in a rainforest full of them told by our entirely corrupt media in this case.
2/ Why they should ignore multiple cadaver and blood dog findings against the Mccanns.
3/ why they should ignore the multiple conflicting timelines given out by the parents and company.
4/ why they should ignore an independent witness describing a Gerry McCann doppelgänger carrying a "deeply unconscious" blonde child down the street.
5/ why they should ignore the Mccanns failing to disclose this information.
6/ why they should ignore one of their private detectives, a former corrupt police officer who was jailed for importing millions of pounds worth of cocaine admitting he was paid to bribe people to claim they had seen Maddie.
7/ how they can explain doing anything which could clearly prejudice and severely inhibit future criminal proceedings in this case.
8/ How they can claim to have a neutral position in this case when there are several documented links to the Jill Dando case.
9/ You know, Jill Dando who was murdered after she handed in a list if paedophiles who were variously employed at the BBC.
10/ Perhaps it could explain what it knew of the activities of Clement Freud - you know, Clement Freud the Mccanns best buddy, rapist, paedophile who walked the corridors of the BBC for decades.
11/ Perhaps the BBC could interview dr Mark Perlin who has offered to resolve the DNA samples in the case for nothing and could ask the Met why they have refused to speak to him or why they have ignored dozens of complaints in regards to this
12/ Perhaps it can explain how it prefers to speculate on the involvement of some random German drifter with zero real evidence he had anything to do with this, whilst completely ignoring the above.
I'm an ex cop, I'll quite happily go on air and spout some alternative "theories " on the McCann case.
Hopefully, soon it will no longer be a crime to not pay the licence fee.
Why on earth should anyone have to pay to watch this pathetic propagandist tripe ?
Perverting the course of justice and state corruption remain crimes.
You are beyond a joke and a total and utter disgrace.
Hopefully a nasty German nonce will sue the pants off you.
Happy Tuesday
A concerned citizen awaiting justice.
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Post by PeterMac 31.10.23 7:06

Or this from the same FB page.
"Paul James

I have seen many examples of body language (not that I'm an expert) but this particular one from the German Prosecutor is very eye catching indeed, as what people say (positive) is not always reflected in their (negative) facial expressions, revealing quite the paradox; and here is an excellent example of someone playing both sides of the coin.

When being questioned by the reporter, Hans is first asked; “From what you've seen you're sure she's dead?” Hans replies (suddenly looking very uneasy, even slightly unsure) “Yeah!” It's as though he has to think for a moment, whether that is the right answer to give.

However, if his facial unsureness here was an attempt at acting, (while he knows different) as in trying to make people feel he's not that quite sure (what's happened to Madeleine) when he knows more than he is letting on, at this point, he's about on the same level as Kate McCann when trying to feign sadness on the evening of 4 May 2007, very poor acting indeed.

Next, he is asked, “Where was she killed do you think? Was she killed in Portugal or else where?”

Hans replies with immediate confidence, “In Portugal?” His reply here is with the utmost positivity, akin to how Gerry answers questions. This here is a simple case of, 'when you know, you know'.

Thirdly: Hans is asked to confirm again: “She died in Portugal?” Again, Hans replies with complete assuredness, “Yes”.

But when he is then told; “So the Portuguese Police have apologised to the McCann family, for the way they treated the McCann family and for the way they carried out the investigation in the early days.” And is then asked, “What do you think about that?”

In the middle of listening to this question and hearing that the Portuguese have apologised to the McCann's, (apparently the BBC were told they came over to England for a face to face meeting with Gerry and apologised), Hans pulls the most expressive face that signals one of a number of feelings.

Firstly, this face is universally associated with sadness, (feeling sad). The artistic representation of this facial expression is the painting, 'Tears of a Clown'.

Secondly, it is mainly used by children as one of 'over exaggerated' disappointment.

Lastly, it can be read (more so in adults) as 'genuine surprise'. But it is his verbal reply to his expression that makes no sense and it is here he's back in the Kate McCann School of poor acting, as Hans replies, “It's a good sign”.

And it is here that what he is conveying so strongly with his face and then confirming with his verbal line, (“It's a good sign”) is not just completely incompatible, but they are polar opposites. So one or the other is true, but not both! So which is it?

So is Hans genuinely surprised that the Portuguese have travelled to England to apologies face to face with Gerry? And is this a case of, does the right hand really not know what the left hand is doing? With Hans been caught on the hop in the middle of an interview, learning what's happened from a TV reporter rather than hearing this from his counterparts?

Or is this just another case of bad acting? And that he knows more than he is letting on?

It would be very interesting to hear what the Behaviour Panel think of Han's facial expression here, as he hears the Portuguese Police have apologised to the McCanns?

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Post by crusader 31.10.23 7:31

Pat Brown has her say.
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Post by CaKeLoveR 31.10.23 8:14

The current crop of Portuguese police are probably politically correct and woke. There could have been an agreement between three countries as well. Why the original team in Portugal have been treated like this by the new one is hard to fathom, when  a  main suspect refused to answer 48 questions  about her daughter's disappearance, and now receives an apology.
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Post by Silentscope 31.10.23 9:33

I think Pat Brown has missed HCW ‘Tears of a Clown’ face as described up thread.

The sadness mixed with surprise can be explained this way.

He has failed to nail Brückner, and his Credit is zero. He is being taken off the Case. Result sadness.

He was not informed about the ‘Apology’ storyline and then is trying to process this revelation. Result Surprised.

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Post by PeterMac 31.10.23 10:15

NATASHA DONN is up to speed as always    [ Natasha's bolding as in the article,  My RED emphasis, Do we think that if it were true it would not have been reported months ago - at the time for example - by one of more of the Gutter press or even the Olive Press ! ?]
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https://www.portugalresident.com/pj-police-confirm-steps-continuing-in-case-of-missing-madeleine-mccann/

Detectives have reportedly “apologised” for handling of case
In a statement issued today, Portugal’s PJ judicial police have clarified that “steps are continuing” as part of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, “to fully clarify the situation”.
The statement comes after the BBC in UK reports that “Portuguese police have apologised to the parents of Madeleine McCann for the way they handled the three-year-old’s disappearance”.
None of this is mentioned in the PJ statement*, which simply explains “that, as part of the investigation into the disappearance of an English child in the Algarve in 2007, steps are continuing to be taken to fully clarify the situation”.
The short text continues: “In this context, and as has been made public in due course, in close liaison with the German (BKA) and English (Metropolitan Police) authorities, formal investigation and forensic tests have been carried out in Portugal and abroad, as well as sharing information and revisiting testimonies.
“As is also normal in this type of situation and in line with good practice, face-to-face contacts were made with the relatives of the missing child, providing – only – the procedural situation within the scope of the ongoing inquiry pending before the Faro District Public Prosecutor’s Office”.
According to the BBC, “a delegation of senior officers travelled from Lisbon to London earlier this year. They met Gerry McCann, Madeleine’s father, and apologised for the way detectives investigated the case and treated the family.
“The McCann family has not commented on the apology and their daughter’s disappearance remains unsolved.
“Portuguese police now say their initial investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance was not handled properly, there was insufficient importance given at the time to missing children and that her parents’ position as foreigners in an environment they did not understand was not appreciated”, the BBC’s report goes on.
Anyone who remembers those days and weeks following Madeleine’s disappearance will recall the massive press pack camped in Praia da Luz, and the apparent extreme importance given by authorities, both Portuguese and British, to the child’s disappearance. Thus why this reference to “insufficient importance” comes now – 16 years after the little girl went missing without apparent trace – is unclear. There do not appear to be any new leads in this mystery in spite of the flurry of activity around the Arade dam earlier this year.
Reiterating that the Portuguese police “have now admitted that the investigation was not conducted correctly”, the BBC’s report ends with the information that “after years of investigation, Portuguese officers this year backed the German authorities, who believe that German Christian Brueckner (sic) murdered the child”.
This is something that Mr Brückner himself has consistently denied.
The BBC’s report concludes that “Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor in the case, welcomed Portugal’s apology, saying: “It’s a good sign. It shows that there is progress in the McCann case in Portugal”.
Again this observation is not immediately borne out by the content of the PJ  statement.
*SIC Notícias on Monday evening carried a news item to insist that Portugal’s PJ police did NOT travel to UK to apologise to the parents of Madeleine McCann. They went, as the statement issued earlier today explains, to update the couple on the situation as of ‘now’.
‘Close liaison’ with the German (BKA) and English (Metropolitan Police) authorities can also not be interpreted as PJ police ‘backing’ the German authorities theory that Christian Brückner murdered Madeleine McCann.
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Post by PeterMac 31.10.23 11:06

The paper edition has been updated by Natasha 

"Our paper edition story runs this way:

PJ confirm “steps continuing” in case of Madeleine McCann
 
By NATASHA DONN
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Investigation  ||  In a statement issued on Monday, Portugal’s PJ judicial police confirmed that “steps are continuing” as part of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, “to fully clarify the situation”.

The statement came after the BBC in UK reported that “Portuguese police have apologised to the parents of Madeleine McCann for the way they handled the three-year-old’s disappearance”.
The BBC’s claim has since been widely repeated, leading to the PJ issuing a denial on Monday evening, in time for news bulletins. The denial however appears not to have been picked up by foreign media.

As the PJ statement on Monday explained “as part of the investigation into the disappearance of an English child in the Algarve in 2007, steps are continuing to be taken to fully clarify the situation”.

“In this context, and as has been made public in due course, in close liaison with the German (BKA) and English (Metropolitan Police) authorities, formal investigation and forensic tests have been carried out in Portugal and abroad, as well as sharing information and revisiting testimonies.
“As is also normal in this type of situation and in line with good practice, face-to-face contacts were made with the relatives of the missing child, providing - only - the procedural situation within the scope of the ongoing inquiry pending before the Faro District Public Prosecutor's Office.” [my italics and bolding - PM]

The ’only’ in that last paragraph was strategic. 

Nonetheless, British news stories have run with the BBC theme, which insists: “Portuguese police now say their initial investigation into Madeleine's disappearance was not handled properly, there was insufficient importance given at the time to missing children and that her parents' position as foreigners in an environment they did not understand was not appreciated,”

Anyone who remembers those days and weeks following Madeleine’s disappearance will recall the massive press pack camped in Praia da Luz, and the apparent extreme importance given by authorities, both Portuguese and British, to the child’s disappearance.
The question therefore is why all this confused information is coming now. 
Tuesday saw further stories in the UK media, involving an interview with German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters who said: “I can only say that we have only have one suspect at the moment. [Madeleine McCann died] in Portugal and we think maybe we know where it happened.' 
German police have been saying this since 2020 when they first made their claims about suspect Christian Brűckner (a man who insists he had nothing to do with it). In the intervening years, the BKA has failed to come up with any evidence, or even charge Brűckner. And what they do not explain – and what has not been made clear in the British media - is that there can never be any other suspects in this case, as the Statute of Limitations in Portugal on crimes punishable with jail terms of more than 10 years have only a 15-year prosecution limit, and that ran out on May 3, 2022.

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In other words it is a load of Tabloid Testicles.
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I hope this is true.
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Post by Silentscope 31.10.23 11:11

SIC Notícias on Monday evening carried a news item to insist that Portugal’s PJ police did NOT travel to UK to apologise to the parents of Madeleine McCann. They went, as the statement issued earlier today explains, to update the couple on the situation as of ‘now’.


Busted. 


Bilton should be classed as a McCann Asset, after revealing to Murat that he was approached to Spy on the Press for the McCanns.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/bbc-reporter-reveals-asked-act-10351623#
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Post by Tony Bennett 31.10.23 11:18

I was very sad when I read these words in the press reports: “A delegation of senior officers travelled from Lisbon to London earlier this year. They met Gerry McCann, Madeleine’s father, and apologised for the way detectives investigated the case and treated the family.”

I was sad to think that Portuguese police officers travelled all the way to England and back at Portuguese taxpayers’ expense to deliver this grovelling apology. Probably there stayed here in England for a night or two at a nice hotel. I wondered in fact if they knelt down before Gerry and Kate McCann, raised their hands in prayer, and asked, “Please forgive us!”

I was sad because this woeful BBC documentary and the accompanying press coverage seemed to be the ‘final nail in the coffin’, that is, as it were, to bury, in the public’s mind, any lingering belief that Madeleine might not have been abducted.

The truth, as it were, is being formally buried by this announcement, just as the truth has been buried for nearly 16 years under a veritable mountain of fabricated statements and fabricated sightings.

The British political and legal establishment were all over this case even before the ‘abduction’ was announced: the ‘dummy’ Madeleine page on the CEOP page on 30 April 2007; Robert Murat’s early morning dash to Portugal the following day; the bosses at the Sun newspaper directing Jon Clarke of the Olive Press to go to Praia Luz – as we now know, probably even before the Kate McCann cried, ‘Madeleine’s gone’.

In my honest opinion only something very wicked must have happened to Madeleine – something so wicked that the truth had to be smothered by the British political and legal establishment at all costs.

My comfort in all this is that I believe that there will one day, probably very soon, be the Day of Judgment, often spoken of in the Bible, where “...there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known. Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops” (Luke 12 vv 2-3) or, as Mark put it, “There is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad” Mark 4 v 22). All of us will face that Day.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
So, anyone at all, from the McCanns to Mark Rowley, who has knowingly lied about the truth of what really happened to Madeleine McCann, will one day be answerable to God on that Day of Judgment, unless they first confess the truth.

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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Guest 31.10.23 11:18

crusader wrote:That's two out of 3, just need the Met statement now.

Since Brueckner first hit the headlines hack in June 2000, every time there is another media blitz of EXCLUSIVES it is said the Portuguese judiciary and London' Metropolitan Police are cooperating with the German authorities 'investigation'.

Well as many of the crimes allegedly committed in the name of Christian Brueckner were said to be on Portuguese soil, hardly surprising the two nations will be liaising. As regards London, they only ever respond by way of the media in the negative - their open investigation continues using the premise of a missing person. Technically correct without conclusive evidence to contradict.

The press/media reports like their audiences to believe the three nations are actively working together towards one goal - a conviction in the name of Christian Brueckner but this is just not true, it's press/media spin spin .

It will die away like the rest .... until the next time.
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Madeleine McCann hunt: German police make critical discovery at Portuguese reservoir

By Georgia Pearce

Published: 31/10/2023 - 10:29

German Prosecutor Hans Christian Walters says he "can't speak about the results" of the reservoir search

German prosecutors investigating the Madeleine McCann case have revealed that police are "searching for evidence" at a reservoir in Portugal.

Forensic teams descended on the Silves reservoir in southern Portugal in May this year, to search for any evidence in the case of missing Madeleine.

Police had said they have 'found' something at the the Portuguese reservoir but can't reveal or discuss it because of the developing case.

Madeleine McCann went missing on the evening of May 3 in 2007, during a family holiday in the Algarve in Portugal.

Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry returned to their Praia Da Luz apartment to find the then three-year-old gone, and have not yet had a conclusive answer on what really happened to her.

WATCH: Investigator Mark Williams-Thomas details evidence in McCann case

German Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has revealed details of the search, but admitted he "cannot speak of the results" as it may affect the investigation.

It is believed both Portuguese and German authorities were searching for evidence in connection with prime suspect Christian Brueckner, including discarded USB sticks.

Brueckner, 46, was made the prime suspect in the McCann case in 2022, and it is known by police that Brueckner once called the location is "little paradise".

It is also believed by investigators that Brueckner visited the reservoir just days after Madeleine's disappearance.

In a new BBC Panorama documentary, 'Prime Suspect: Who Took Madeleine McCann?', German Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters spoke of the reservoir searches and their conclusions.

Wolters said: "At the reservoir, we are searching for evidence, not for the body of Madeleine.

"I can't speak about the results because the investigation of the things we found there is still ongoing."

Friedrich Fulscher, Brueckner's lawyer, claims that the police were "only looking for Madeleine's DNA", and that the didn't find any.

Fulscher claimed: "There are certain parts of the files, the results of the investigation, which must always be disclosed to the defence.

"There are different types of expert reports, and in this case they were mainly DNA reports, and the expert opinions that I've seen so far only allow one conclusion, namely that this was a fruitless search."

He added that the police case into Madeleine's disappearance is "close to crashing down".

Brueckner, who is currently serving a seven-year prison term in Germany, has always denied he was involved in the case.

https://www.gbnews.com/news/madeleine-mccann-hunt-german-police-make-critical-discovery-at-portuguese-reservoir
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