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Post by Jill Havern on 09.06.19 15:33

Top Maddie cop slams trolls for harming tot's siblings – calls for police action
A TOP Brit detective has lashed out at trolls for attacking Madeleine McCann's parents Kate and Gerry and creating a "vile cesspit" of allegations.

By Tom Towers / Published 9th June 2019


Jim Gamble was the UK’s top child protection police officer in the UK and heavily involved in the initial search for Maddie

The experienced cop spent years examining the case and analysing evidence – and has now called for the police to step in over Kate and Gerry's abuse. 

The tragic tot disappeared from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on the evening of May 3, 2007.

British and Portuguese police afterwards launched an enormous operation, but the desperate hunt continues 12 years on. 

Since then, sick trolls have made allegations about Kate and Gerry – despite their being no evidence to support their claims. 

The family have been relentlessly abused on social media, with keyboard sickos posting cruel jokes and baseless theories on Facebook and Twitter.

Mr Gamble helped Gerry draft a statement during the initial investigation.

He told Daily Star Online: “The trolls take the view that Kate and Gerry can ignore Twitter and not go online, but that is in essence harassing someone from a public place where they have every right to be.

“The hypocrisy of the trolls that really gets me is: they hide behind anonymous names, they rant at the parents, and they do so claiming to be child protection advocates – to be only interested in doing what’s best for Madeleine and children.

“Yet they’re failing to grasp the irony that Sean and Amelie (Madeleine’s siblings) will now be at an age when they’ll be occupying online spaces.

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EXPERIENCED: Jim Gamble was the UK’s top child protection police officer in the UK (Pic: NETFLIX)
Jim Gamble wrote: “They’re going to come across this cesspit of vile comments”

“And every time they search their names or search anything about their sister, they’re going to come across this cesspit of vile comments that these self-proclaimed child protection advocates – who are in essence trolls – have left there for them.

“I remain disappointed at the police’s failure to hold those who are clearly committing offences of criminal harassment online responsible.” 

Sean and Amelie are Maddie’s twin siblings, and were born in February 2005, meaning they are now aged 14, so highly likely to be aware of social media.

They were two years old at the time of their sister’s disappearance on May 3, 2007, and are thought to have been asleep during her disappearance. 

Cops are still trying to trace 13 suspects seen acting suspiciously in and around the resort before Madeleine’s disappearance. 

Despite high profile police appeals and the release of a series of sketches and e-fits in the 12 years since, no trace of Maddie has been found. 

One suspect is feared to have carried out up to 28 sex attacks on other children within a 40-mile radius of the apartment from which then-three-year-old Madeleine went missing. 

Wearing a surgical mask, he apparently got into bed with a seven-year-old British girl but fled when she woke up and asked: “Is that you daddy?’’

Another was chased from a holiday apartment after a horrified mum caught him standing over her young daughter.


https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/782147/madeleine-mccann-2019-disappearance-news-detective-slams-trolls-missing-parents-latest
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Post by Ladyinred on 09.06.19 16:06

The Daily Star.  LOL.

J. Gamble, shut up.
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Post by Jill Havern on 09.06.19 16:33

Thursday, 29 January 2015

A Risky Gamble

The Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP) was formed in April 2006, and was absorbed into the NCA on 7 October 2013 by the UK Crime and Courts Act 2013.  The predecessor to CEOP was the Paedophile Online Exploitation Team.

Until March 2010, this was headed by Jim Gamble - he who called for a "panic button" for the public to report suspected paedophiles, to be installed on the main profile page of every Facebook user,  thereby planting the suggestion that every single Facebook user is also, potentially, a paedophile.  And of course inviting millions of aggrieved teens, or even older, to treat them as flippers on a pinball machine.

The common word in both CEOP and it's predecessor is, of course, "online".

Mr Gamble, now so-called "self employed", keeps himself very busy online, particularly on Twitter.  Here is a small selection of his microblogs.

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Mr Gamble has also been involved, with the McCann case, right from the start.  Even though there is zero suggestion that Madeleine has been involved in any nefarious online activity; and zero evidence that she has been abducted by paedophiles.

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Yet Mr Gamble has thrown his entire person into the fray.  He has blocked every single person on Twitter who has even remotely questioned the McCanns' version of events, including many who have never even interacted with him.  He has publicly stated that persons with a contrary opinion should not be allowed to give broadcasts on the radio.  He very visibly applauded Sky's Martin Brunt for doorstepping one dissenter, on the very day that that lady's probable suicide was announced.  He is now actively attempting to prevent independent journalists from writing, or broadcasting, about the case.

One has to wonder why Mr Gamble is so passionate and involved over this one particular case, when there is absolutely no reason for himself or his former agency to become involved at all.

We must also ask how Dr Gerry McCann came into possession of several hard-backed CEOP internal manuals, as early as 2007; Mr Gamble tells us that "they can be downloaded by anyone from the Internet".  He seems unwilling, however, to provide any links, or explain how a digital download can suddenly transform itself into a hard-backed book.

Or how a former senior policeman has apparently, suddenly transformed into one of the "haters" and "trolls" that he claims to despise so much.
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Post by willowthewisp on 09.06.19 16:40

To CMMoM, Members, it's been a few years since Big Jim Gamble,Gerry, Martin Brunt and sir Bernard Hogan Howe call to rescue the McCann family from Trolls? 

These Four "Amigo's"came out once again in support of Madeleine's parents, Not Madeleine McCann?

With the help of Sky News Corporation, Martin Brunt uncovered the "Sweepyface, Account", then hounded Mrs Brenda Leyland, didn't Mrs Leyland have the EHRC, Article 6/8 Mr Howe, like Mr Richards?

Just what "Powers" do the mysterious "Couple" have to influence all these special people to support them,Not their lost daughter Madeleine, Twelve years ago!
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Post by sharonl on 09.06.19 19:43

thinking   Mr Gamble helped Gerry draft a statement during the initial investigation.

Since when do cops help the suspects with their statements?

Sounds to me that they fear what the twins may find on the internet.  It won't be long before the they are able to carry out their own research/investigation and may just spill the beans.   Is this why the McCanns wanted to secure 250,000 euros each for them, courtesy of Goncalo Amaral?

big grin  13 people acting suspiciously in one resort? Give it a rest Jim.

If one person was acting suspiciously there would probably be a crime committed and reported.  Are you saying that all these people behaved suspiciously but no crimes were reported?  

Furthermore, if as you say, Madeleine had wandered off at night, why would someone need to be acting suspiciously beforehand?

duh  

Whilst we are talking about people acting suspiciously though, did you hear about the man who was seen entering a child brothel in Cambodia?  When he was spotted he claimed that he was there to make a film.  We have never seen that film, i wonder why that is.  Anyway, who in their right mind would make a film advertising a child brothel?  I reckon that man was acting very suspiciously, don't you Jim?

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Post by PeterMac on 10.06.19 8:32

If the twins can now access "Social Media" they can presumedly access the PJ files and read the evidence for themselves.
They can then ask their father why he lied about the door in the first statement he made, their mother why she lied about the curtains, and all sort of other things 14 year olds are capable of understanding.

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Post by PeterMac on 10.06.19 8:38

Just out of interest - - -  
This 'story' is ONLY reported in the Daily Star.  Nowhere else.  Not copied and pasted, not syndicated, nothing.
which raises an interesting question . . .

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Post by Verdi on 10.06.19 12:27

Tom 'Popeye' Towers, Olive's partner in crime.  He do like a bit of juicy gossip don't he?

Funny how this 'cesspit' word has caught-on and spread like wild fire - buzz word of the decade?

#makesyoufinkdunnit

If nothing else, Gamble, with the help of Towers, has successfully re-introduced the twins into the foray, something most of us prefer to avoid for the sake of their privacy.  Personally, I believe they are old enough to think for themselves if/when they research the case - certainly old enough to be asking questions.

Having said that, the buzz word aside, a lot of what's written on twitter and facebook etc. is diabolical.  You can't deny that simple fact - it does the cause no favours and most certainly doesn't respect the name Madeleine McCann.  They play right into the hands of Messrs McCann.

Perhaps that's what it's all about?  Are they there for that reason alone?

ETA:  Not the first time I've seen reference to Jim Gamble being heavily involved in the 'search' slash 'campaign' slash 'investigation'.  I know he was shipped over to Portugal to befriend the McCanns and later asked to prepare a 'confidential' report, as reported by the press. 

Remind me - what else has he done?

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Post by PeterMac on 10.06.19 16:25

Just checked again at 17:23 CEST - 10/6/19, and still no one else has touched it.

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Post by Jill Havern on 10.06.19 17:02

Madeleine McCann's parents slam 'despicable' trolls bombarding them with hate mail after £11.75 ...
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Kate and Gerry have branded their online tormenters “despicable" after being trolled over the extension of the 11.75m hunt to find their missing ...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9262826/madeleine-mccann-parents-hate-mail/
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Post by willowthewisp on 10.06.19 17:21

@Jill Havern wrote:Madeleine McCann's parents slam 'despicable' trolls bombarding them with hate mail after £11.75 ...  
The Sun  
Kate and Gerry have branded their online tormenters “despicable" after being trolled over the extension of the 11.75m hunt to find their missing ...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9262826/madeleine-mccann-parents-hate-mail/
Hi Jill Havern.

Who was it who made an undercover taped conversation with a "Former Prime Minister, Cameron, Leveson 2 No longer needed Mathew Hancock, Conservative Government, Operation Grange, Theresa May Rebekah Brooks?

How do they Read or Hear about this "Hate Mail,Trolls", oh they pay "Family members" out of the "Find Madeleine Fund", Portugal Hearings, Supreme Court ruling?

They still pay for the "Loyal" lap dog service provided by Clarence(discredit them) Mitchell?

Gerrys remarks "Ask the Dogs Sandra"!

Gerry and Co certainly have their own "Dogs of War"(Brunt, Gamble, Bernard)when and where necessary to protect the Family?
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Post by sharonl on 10.06.19 19:32

Jim Gamble is fine one to talk when it comes to harming kids.

Its Ok for filthy dirty paedos to download and view images - duh Obviously this what creates the market for these images and put the kids at risk Jim

He doesn't want to youngsters to find out what really happened to their sister - so they have to go through life searching for the truth? Searching for answers, desperately seeking closure?

He gets caught in a child brothel in Cambodia, he was in a position to do something about it, instead, according to him, he was making a film. No sign of that film but if it was ever made, i bet that place had a lot of business afterwards - well done Mr top cop & so called child protection officer.



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Post by aquila on 10.06.19 21:27

It must have been a few years ago when I had a bit of a bee in my bonnet on CMoMM about Jimmy two flags and his new business venture as the overlord of an associate based 'global' company which depicted him spearheading child protection with the oddest photograph of himself standing on a podium between the Union flag and the US flag, microphone to his mouth.  His website was headed up with a picture of Capetown, South Africa, for no apparent reason and yet its content was full of him blogging about Northern Ireland, his love of it and where he was flying to today in UK. It was strange and distorted in its appeal to any particular market to say the least, didn't make sense and still doesn't.



As with Missing People's website, I also read this (let's give Jim the benefit of the doubt at the time and not call him a weasel too soon) man's rationale to promote what I could only perceive as either an entirely bogus company, completely stupid, sinister, or all three rolled into one.


Gamble took the said photograph and removed the flags to show himself still standing on the same podium, microphone to his mouth with a blacked out background.


I never pretend to be clever. I found it completely bizarre.
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Post by Verdi on 11.06.19 1:17

Madeleine McCann’s parents targeted by 'despicable' trolls after funding boost

Kate and Gerry McCann have been taunted by online trolls as the hunt for their daughter was given extra funding last week
By Milo Boyd

   21:18, 10 JUN 2019

The parents of Madeline McCann have been inundated with hate mail after extra funding was given to the effort to find their daughter.

Last week it was revealed the Home Office had approved £300,000 for Scotland Yard to fund the investigation into the missing girl for another year.

The extra funding brings the total spent on the search for Maddi to £11.75m, with parents Kate and Gerry refusing to give up hope.

As the campaign to find her after she went missing in Praia da Luz, Portgual in May 2007 continued, an official website was set up to help find Maddie and monitor the taunts of trolls.

While its digital coordinator usually ignores the barbs, the close friend of the McCanns fired back this week.

She posted: "Ha ha, so funny to play games on a missing child’s page. You play these despicable games, you will be banned.

"I know we should ignore and we usually do. This is but a small sample of what we have to deal with from people on hate pages conspiring to disrupt our page.

"Please do not send these hateful people private messages. We are all better than these despicable people.

"Apparently, they can harass and torment an innocent family, but are crying because people are calling them out on their awful behaviour."

After a Portuguese inquiry into Maddie's disappearance foundered, Scotland Yard opened its own investigation, Operation Grange, in 2013.

The extra funding means Operation Grange will continue at least until March 31, 2020.

The couple’s spokesperson Clarence Mitchell told The Sun: “Kate and Gerry have expressed their gratitude to the police for all the work they have done and continue to do in the search for their daughter.

"They are greatly encouraged that the Metropolitan Police still believe there is active work left to be done and they remain incredibly grateful to the Home Office for providing an extra budget for the investigation.

"It shows that officers are still doing everything they can to get a resolution after all this time. And it gives them hope that one day they may finally find out what happened to Madeleine."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-targeted-despicable-16496912

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Post by PeterMac on 11.06.19 8:49

Mirror and Mail have now picked it up, but have edited out the guff about Gamble. 
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-targeted-despicable-16496912
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7125923/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-hit-despicable-trolls-sending-hate-messages.html

But again, BOTH are allowing comments, and again both are printing what people really think about this whole saga.

surely its us tax payers who are being trolled by two negligent parents who insist on carry on this wild goose chase

surely its us tax payers who are being trolled by two negligent parents who insist on carry on this wild goose chasesurely its us tax payers who are being trolled by two negligent parents who insist on carry on this wild goose chase

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Post by PeterMac on 11.06.19 13:14

Mail Comments now (1415 CEST) up to over 700, almost all "critical"
 plus thousands of Green arrows.

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Post by Jill Havern on 11.06.19 15:28

Top Madeleine McCann cop Jim Gamble hits out at Michelle Dewberry over comments  
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One of the country's top experts in child exploitation has hit out at comments made by Michelle Dewberry over funding for the Madeleine McCann case

One of the country’s top experts in child exploitation has hit out at comments made by Michelle Dewberry over funding for the Madeleine McCann case.
Former detective Jim Gamble is recognised as putting child abuse to the forefront of the British police agenda.
He is the former chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP) and served as the senior child protection officer in the UK's first investigation into Maddie's disappearance.
He came to wider public prominence through his forthright interviews in the Netflix documentary about the youngster, titled The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
On Twitter, he reacted with anger after Hull businesswoman Miss Dewberry questioned whether the money would have been spent on a child from Hull who had gone missing while their parents "went to the local boozer".

But Mr Gamble said: “What a load of unadulterated nonsense. The original Home Secretary that set this off was from Hull.
“A little knowledge is a dangerous thing & an opinion on the back of absolutely no experience worse.”
In 2007 the then-three-year-old disappeared from a Portugese holiday apartment where her parents where staying. More than £11m has since been spent on the Met Police investigation to find her - although it has uncovered no answers.

Speaking on Sky News debate show The Pledge last week, panelists argued whether the continued stream of Home Office funding was "according to class" - something former The Apprentice winner and election candidate Miss Deberry agreed with.
She said: "If this was a family from Hull who had gone to a caravan park down the road and left their kids in the caravan, while they'd gone to the local boozer.
"This wouldn't be getting millions of pounds worth of attention and funding, and all the rest of it."

Following up on social media after the show, Ms Dewberry reiterated her position, saying "there wouldn’t haven’t been a fraction of the money spent on the search".
Operation Grange, the Met Police investigation into Madeleine's disappearance, was set up in 2013 by David Cameron after the Portugese inquiry failed to produce substantial answers.

The force have had to apply for Home Office funding on a regular basis to keep the British investigation afloat and have once again been successful in their attempts to secure further funds with a government commitment to continue the search until March 2020.
The McCann family has pledged to never give up hope of finding their daughter, who disappeared from the apartment they were staying in as they dined out at a nearby restaurant.

However, the decision to continue to pour hundreds of thousands of pounds into the investigation again has stirred up controversy.
Mr Gamble further explained his position on Twitter.

He said: “They would not get more money unless there are credible lines of enquiry to be followed. And this is a very rare type of investigation.
“This case however is rare because it involves a child who went missing abroad, suspected abducted in a foreign country. The only other similar case I know is Ben Needham.”
After starting his career as an ordinary policeman, Mr Gamble became known for being an expert in child crime and online risks.
Gamble led the National Criminal Intelligence Service (NCIS) fight against child sex abuse
He was awarded the Queen's Police Medal in the 2008 New Year Honours list.



https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/madeleine-mccann-jim-gamble-dewberry-2966374
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Post by PeterMac on 11.06.19 15:35

 Gamble : "it involves a child who went missing abroad, suspected abducted in a foreign country."


only suspected now Jim ?
How many years have you all been saying Madeleine WAS ABDUCTED BY PAED****** .  ?

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Post by Mainline on 11.06.19 21:01

This is the same Jim Gamble who follows 'pro' trolls on twitter. Leading by example?
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Post by Rogue-a-Tory on 12.06.19 0:18

“I remain disappointed at the police’s failure to hold those who are clearly committing offences of criminal harassment online responsible.” 


Well Jimbo, the police won't ever put anyone in court over comments made towards the McCs because they will glad trot out all the evidence in open court that will show why Operation Grange is a total sham and why the McCs and buddies must be investigated for Madeleine's disappearance.
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Post by Verdi on 12.06.19 1:27

That's all very well but as I said, some of the comments on social media - in particular twitter and facebook, are really beyond the pale. Totally unacceptable.

It plays right into the hands of the McCanns and contributes nothing towards justice for Madeleine McCann nor respects her memory.

I find it disheartening that folk can be so vicious. Debate the case by all means, there's no shortage of material but to make disgusting threatening comments about the parents doesn't bode good.

Consider if nothing else, they have two remaining children and family that don't deserve this abominable online behaviour.


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Post by Verdi on 12.06.19 1:45

As an aside, it would be extremely helpful if some bright spark could come up with a definitive definition of the word troll. As it stands, it appears to apply to anyone with a difference of opinion.






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Post by BlueBag on 12.06.19 7:05

You are right, "troll" is a go-to word to describe someone who says something you don't like and don't want to discuss.

Same as "...phobe" and "...denier".

It's the weaponising of words.

Very Stalinist (I can use weaponised words as well).
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Post by NickE on 12.06.19 8:22

@Jill Havern wrote:Thursday, 29 January 2015

A Risky Gamble

The Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP) was formed in April 2006, and was absorbed into the NCA on 7 October 2013 by the UK Crime and Courts Act 2013.  The predecessor to CEOP was the Paedophile Online Exploitation Team.

Until March 2010, this was headed by Jim Gamble - he who called for a "panic button" for the public to report suspected paedophiles, to be installed on the main profile page of every Facebook user,  thereby planting the suggestion that every single Facebook user is also, potentially, a paedophile.  And of course inviting millions of aggrieved teens, or even older, to treat them as flippers on a pinball machine.

The common word in both CEOP and it's predecessor is, of course, "online".

Mr Gamble, now so-called "self employed", keeps himself very busy online, particularly on Twitter.  Here is a small selection of his microblogs.

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Mr Gamble has also been involved, with the McCann case, right from the start.  Even though there is zero suggestion that Madeleine has been involved in any nefarious online activity; and zero evidence that she has been abducted by paedophiles.

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Yet Mr Gamble has thrown his entire person into the fray.  He has blocked every single person on Twitter who has even remotely questioned the McCanns' version of events, including many who have never even interacted with him.  He has publicly stated that persons with a contrary opinion should not be allowed to give broadcasts on the radio.  He very visibly applauded Sky's Martin Brunt for doorstepping one dissenter, on the very day that that lady's probable suicide was announced.  He is now actively attempting to prevent independent journalists from writing, or broadcasting, about the case.

One has to wonder why Mr Gamble is so passionate and involved over this one particular case, when there is absolutely no reason for himself or his former agency to become involved at all.

We must also ask how Dr Gerry McCann came into possession of several hard-backed CEOP internal manuals, as early as 2007; Mr Gamble tells us that "they can be downloaded by anyone from the Internet".  He seems unwilling, however, to provide any links, or explain how a digital download can suddenly transform itself into a hard-backed book.

Or how a former senior policeman has apparently, suddenly transformed into one of the "haters" and "trolls" that he claims to despise so much.
Sometimes he is quick to answer.
As he did here, but he went quiet when I asked him a follow up question.

I've also asked him why CEOP became involved from the very beginning but has he refused to answer and it's a bit pathetic because I know and we all knows he has the answer to that simple question.
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Post by Verdi on 12.06.19 12:42

@NickE wrote:I've also asked him why CEOP became involved from the very beginning but has he refused to answer and it's a bit pathetic because I know and we all knows he has the answer to that simple question.
Snipped from PJ files..


Letter from Dr Amaral to Detective Chief Superintendent Robert Hall - 7th May 2007

2. In the spirit of Police to Police Cooperation we request the presence of a British Criminal Analyst who may be able to assist the enquiry.

Also the collaboration of the UK's "Child Exploitation Online Protection" may be useful if they wish to send one of their officers to provide assistance to the investigation,

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t14767p125-documented-evidence#403329

Personally, I think anyone in the public eye with a reputation to uphold, are crazy to engage in twittering.  I don't understand why they do it.

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