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Tony Bennett wrote:I'm trying to track coverage of this very important story in the British press.
So far I've seen articles in The Guardian, the Daily Star, the Daily Mirror, and on SKY NEWS.
There's an article just gone online in 'The Bookseller':
http://www.thebookseller.com/news/131851-lisbon-court-overturns-mccann-book-ban.html
Has there been anything in, e.g.
The Times?
The Telegraph?
The Sun?
The Daily Mail?
The Daily Express?
The Independent?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/10/20/mccann-blow-115875-22645820/#ixzz12shzHUCU
http://www.thebookseller.com/news/131851-lisbon-court-overturns-mccann-book-ban.html
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candyfloss wrote:I hadn't realised that spudgun had his own blog, just seen a link on another site. This is a very good read..
Madeleine McCann the TRUTH of the Truth of the Lie...by SPUDGUN
I have absolutely no idea what the significance will be of the Portuguese Court of Appeal overturning the ban on Goncalo Amaral’s book, “The Truth of the Lie”, a ban successfully effected by court action brought by the ever litigious Kate and Gerry McCann.
Then again, I never understood how or why the Injunction was granted in the FIRST place. After all, Amaral’s book was effectively no more than a synopsis of some of the key investigation points carried out by the Portuguese Authorities, information which was, (and still is), already in the public domain.
In my own country, (here in the UK), there is currently NO news of the lifting of the ban. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the BRITISH media to report the matter, and then even more interesting to see which newspaper first chalks it up as a scandalous victory for the “disgraced former Maddie Cop”.
For herein lies the rub. Ostensibly, this little procedure in a Portuguese Court is fairly inconsequential in relation to the material that was the subject of the ban in the first place. For the book was, and still is, freely available online, in many languages.
But it is a HUGE victory, (not just for Amaral who was ALSO facing the consequences of losing his HOME to another action been brought by the McCanns), but for the Portuguese authorities, the Police, their press, and most of all, their PEOPLE.
Whatever happened to Madeleine McCann in May of 2007 may forever be a mystery. Whatever crimes took place may never be solved. But the crimes that have since been perpetrated against PORTUGAL, the country with whom the UK has held one of the longest alliances in the World, must not only be solved, but atoned for. Not least, the crimes perpetrated against it by its own Government, or at least factions of it.
Rumours of political skulduggery and interference have been circulating in Portugal pretty much since Madeleine was first reported missing. Key decisions, both in the case itself and on how it was conducted, can be traced back to direct interference from UK Government Ministers, including the then Premier, (and fellow former Glaswegian), Gordon Brown. Reports of spooks, British Intelligence, and senior Special Branch officer’s presence and involvement have been recorded in the Portuguese press since the early days of the enquiry.
Even Portuguese judges dealing with the investigation and court proceedings in the early stages would appear to have acted completely out of character and seemingly against the legal Statutes, procedures and practises that govern them, (especially where Kate and Gerry McCann were allowed to flee Portugal, 72 Hours after having asserted they would never leave Portugal without their daughter, and a mere 48 hours after being made Arguidos).
Such BRITISH influence and involvement can NOT have occurred without the complicity, (and DUPLICITY), of at least some senior Portuguese Office.
Whatever deal was struck, I hope the Office thinks it was worth it.
It would not be the first time, of course, that a Nation has been let down by its Government. However, such occasions generally benefit from a judicious, fearless, accurate and observant PRESS, bringing to the attention to the rest of the world the injustice and deceit that is ensuing. If the Portuguese had hoped that their oldest allies, the BRITISH, would use their Press to highlight their cause, then they were about to be disappointed.
I have recorded elsewhere the catalogue of journals, newspapers, television documentaries, news programmes, British Government Ministers, ‘B’ list Celebrities, Gossip Columnists and bulletins that have all not only perpetrated and propagated the ABDUCTION story, but have ridiculed, abused and vilified the Portuguese people in the process.
“Up Yours, Senor”, “Useless Porto Plod” and “keep your stupid, sardine munching mouth shut”, were just some of the more fragrant lines written by the UK’s finest scribes.
“Pigs” and “Filth”, were how one Tabloid luminary described the Portuguese Police.
“Bumpkins” was how he referred to the Portuguese people of the area where Madeleine went missing. Presumably he meant those who took time off from their work places and normal lives to search the ground, for HOURS, on their hands on knees, looking for clues as to the little girl’s whereabouts.
Just in case there was any doubts as to the integrity or calibre of the Portuguese people, Piers Merchant, assistant to Member of the European Parliament Roger Knapmann, clarified the situation regarding the British perspective on our oldest ally.
In November 2007, I wrote a letter to the former leader and Home Secretary of the UK Conservative Party, Michael Howard. In the letter, I explained that I was concerned that conflict and potentially irreparable damage was being caused between the two countries concerned, Britain and Portugal, much of which appears to have been caused by the Press and Government of this country. I further questioned the use of the British Government Media Monitoring Unit Director, Clarence Mitchell, as not only a spokesman but as an apparent MENTOR of sorts; resigning from his Government job and allying himself with the McCann's when they were made Arguidos. I suggested this to be somewhat an unprecedented and unusual state of affairs.
I also explained my concerns that Gordon Brown had not only personally intervened in the case by persuading the Portuguese authorities to permit the McCann's to make an appeal for information concerning the 'abductor', as 'witnessed' by Jane Tanner, (even though the Portuguese placed NO significance or, more likely, credibility in this sighting'), but that some factions of the credible Portuguese Press were suggesting that Government Pressure was being brought to bear on the case.
Certainly, I considered it inappropriate and unusual for Gordon Brown to have made the personal communications and offered the assistance that he did to the McCann's.
Clarence Mitchell himself had already confirmed that he, via the Prime Minister, had been instrumental in not only co-ordinating the visit to the Vatican, but also visits to other world leaders and dignitaries. My letter concluded that I felt it essential that the Prime Minister clarified his position and involvement with regards to the McCann's case.
The response I received was a standard, if not unexpected one, advising me that the letter would be forwarded to the Prime Minister for his comments, which would be communicated to me if and when he made them. (He never did).
I published my original letter on an Internet Forum, inviting any like minded individuals to either use it as a template or to modify it for their own purposes and forward it to their own local, Members of Parliament. A lady from Bristol did just that, and the response that it elicited made headline news, both here and in Portugal.
Piers Merchant wrote an astonishing and lengthy response that firstly warned the author to be 'careful' of what she writes, referring to the laws of Libel. It then went on to state, somewhat pompously, that
'‘One of the first duties of the British government is to support its citizens abroad. It is therefore entirely correct that the government should do this in the case of Kate and Gerry McCann".
He then sensationally declared,
'The Portuguese police and judicial system is known to be suspect. Elements of the police are corrupt and indeed in this case the senior detective involved has been charged with corruption? "
He continues;
''The Portuguese judicial system does not assume innocence before guilt in the way the British system does and operates an interrogatory process in which people are denounced as suspects without any proof?."
Merchant explains why this shocking state of affairs is so:
"It is important to realise that Portugal has no real history of citizen's rights and liberties or democracy. From the 1920s to the mid 1970's Portugal was ruled by a fascist dictatorship, first under Salazar and then Caetano. Political opposition was repressed and the police and judicial system was used to achieve this. A stable multi-party democracy only came into existence in the late 1970's and is still very young. Many of the police were trained under fascism and the institutions still bear the impact of this long period of dictatorship".
The letter concludes by stating,
''In all the circumstances it is entirely right that British citizens should be protected against an unreliable foreign system. In any event I think you can rest assured that the British police and intelligence services have long had a better grip on the facts of this case than the Portuguese police".
Merchant later tried to deny that he had written this, protesting that his letter had been ‘altered’. However, I STILL have the original source file, and can assert that it is entirely as it was created. Additionally, he refused an invitation to submit his WEB based email system to cursory examination.
Some three years after this particular response, I am still intrigued as to how much of that inexplicable retort was Merchant’s own work, and whether he genuinely wrote it of his own volition.
Piers Merchant died, in September 2009, taking the answers with him.
So today, Tuesday the 19th October, 2010, IS a victor for Portugal.
It is a victory for the Policia Judiciaria, who conducted themselves throughout with professionalism and determination, despite the horrendous, abusive labels and accusations of incompetence, (completely unfounded), which still plague them to this day. Their ‘crime’?. To assert that Madeleine McCann is dead and that her parents are at least complicit in her disappearance. Presumably for reasons of space, the same newspapers were unable to repeat and reserve the same criticisms for the BRITISH factions who shared that self-same opinion:-
a/The Leicestershire Police Constabulary who, (according to PJ files), were instrumental in proposing that Maddie had died at the apartment. Clearly they saw no point, either, in lambasting:
b/ the specialist South Yorkshire Police ‘enhanced victim recovery dogs’, Eddie & Keela, instrumental in solving DOZENS of cases across 17 Police Forces across the UK, who signalled the scent of Cadavarine and other body fluids, in the McCanns apartment and in a vehicle hired by the McCanns, as well as on other personal items belonging to the McCanns.
c/So too, the Birmingham Forensic Science Services, (who have built a “global reputation for excellence in forensic solutions”), who, according to many sources, including SKY NEWS, reported that DNA extracted from a sample taken from the McCanns Hire Car was a “100% MATCH” to Madeleine McCann.
For whatever reasons, these 3 facets of the investigation, the Leicestershire Police, The specialist dogs and the Birmingham FSS results all made obvious significant contributions to the Portuguese Authorities conclusions regarding the case, yet they have thus far avoided the same derogatory attention afforded to them.
BUT most of all, it is a VICTORY for the Portuguese PEOPLE. Those who gave their time, energy, money, resources and heartfelt support, love and wishes to a “nice” British couple in their quest to find their missing daughter. Those whose lives were blighted, (and some who still ARE), and turned upside down by a tidal wave of media vileness , together with a Government who abandoned them and stood by while this character assassination on a NATIONAL level unfolded.
It is for THEM, that this little bit of Court decision making will go a little way towards restoring their faith in the Democracy, spirit and traditional values of their homeland.
As for the McCanns themselves? Who knows? It may well be that they will manage to overturn, yet again this current state of affairs. No doubt they will embark on ANOTHER course of legal action, certainly against Amaral and possibly someone else as well as, no doubt, several Newspapers, Media Outlets or anyone else who repeats the Books' words.
Some might suggest that they will NEED to.
For they have spent MILLIONS of pounds in donations, pledges and personal backing, in convincing the world that Madeleine McCann was abducted; Either by one of several infamous characters as described by Jane Tanner, or by one of the MANY bizarre, colourful and ludicrous suspects that inhabit various corners of the globe as reported widely in the British Press, (courtesy of the McCanns own private police force, Metodo 3 and Clarence Mitchell).
Or by one of the many faceless, nameless and shameless paedophiles that apparently walk the streets of every Portuguese village, (courtesy of a seemingly innumerable number of High Ranking British ‘EX’ Police Officers/Experts, some of which have financially benefited quite nicely from the McCann Gravy Train) .
And that kind of "LOOKING FOR MADDIE" doesn’t come cheap.
But, as has always been the case in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, there are more QUESTIONS than answers. And as I have been wont to say on more than one occasion, unless those questions are firstly ASKED, they can never be answered.
And today, in a Court room in Lisbon, at least the asking has started again...................
God bless Madeleine Beth McCann, wherever you are.................
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I saw his blog advertised on twitter and I've bookmarked it too
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A supporter of ours from the Midlands says there was a tiny paragraph about the lifting of the book ban on page 21 of his edition of 'The Sun' today. It doesn't appear to be covered in their on-line edition though.annabel wrote:Tony Bennett wrote:I'm trying to track coverage of this very important story in the British press.
So far I've seen articles in The Guardian, the Daily Star, the Daily Mirror, and on SKY NEWS.
There's an article just gone online in 'The Bookseller':
http://www.thebookseller.com/news/131851-lisbon-court-overturns-mccann-book-ban.html
Has there been anything in, e.g.
The Times?
The Telegraph?
The Sun?
The Daily Mail?
The Daily Express?
The Independent?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/10/20/mccann-blow-115875-22645820/#ixzz12shzHUCU
http://www.thebookseller.com/news/131851-lisbon-court-overturns-mccann-book-ban.html
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Hello everyone
I too, am over the moon with the ban being lifted - with such good news - things must now get better. I would love to buy a copy here in the UK and hope that it will be available - if only a publisher would step up to the plate.
I feel so proud of GA and almost feel as though we are all following his footsteps to the Truth.
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I too, am over the moon with the ban being lifted - with such good news - things must now get better. I would love to buy a copy here in the UK and hope that it will be available - if only a publisher would step up to the plate.
I feel so proud of GA and almost feel as though we are all following his footsteps to the Truth.
Angelique
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Angelique wrote:Hello everyone
I too, am over the moon with the ban being lifted - with such good news - things must now get better. I would love to buy a copy here in the UK and hope that it will be available - if only a publisher would step up to the plate.
I feel so proud of GA and almost feel as though we are all following his footsteps to the Truth.
Angelique
Angelique, lovely to see you here, and welcome
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Thank you for your welcome - It's lovely to be here :yahoo:
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Thank you for your welcome - It's lovely to be here :yahoo:
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Angelique wrote:Hello everyone
I too, am over the moon with the ban being lifted - with such good news - things must now get better. I would love to buy a copy here in the UK and hope that it will be available - if only a publisher would step up to the plate.
I feel so proud of GA and almost feel as though we are all following his footsteps to the Truth.
Angelique
Angelique, good to see you here
Yes wouldn't it be great if publishers in the UK had the courage to print Mr Amaral's book. Now that it is no longer banned, I fail to see why it shouldn't be available to anyone who wishes to read it.
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Angelique wrote:Hello everyone
I too, am over the moon with the ban being lifted - with such good news - things must now get better. I would love to buy a copy here in the UK and hope that it will be available - if only a publisher would step up to the plate.
I feel so proud of GA and almost feel as though we are all following his footsteps to the Truth.
Angelique
Hi Angelique and welcome. I know how you feel, I feel as if I know Dr Amaral. I feel so sorry that the dispicable McCanns, have made his life a misery. I want to through my arms around him and give him the biggest hug, just to let him know that he has many friends.
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Autumn and kathybelle
Thank you for your welcome to the forum - I too, feel as though he has become a bit of a hero to me - I wish him all success and that any case for libel against him is thrown out. He deserves our praise. Our support and our thanks.
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Thank you for your welcome to the forum - I too, feel as though he has become a bit of a hero to me - I wish him all success and that any case for libel against him is thrown out. He deserves our praise. Our support and our thanks.
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Just a thought - could this excellent news be in anyway related to the recent change in the UK's political power? and how/why?
I still do not understand why the Labour leadership got so involved? And the fact ( as I have read) that the 'super spinner' CM has recently switched from Labour to Tory (and is presumably still spinning) makes no sense to me
I still do not understand why the Labour leadership got so involved? And the fact ( as I have read) that the 'super spinner' CM has recently switched from Labour to Tory (and is presumably still spinning) makes no sense to me
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Rupert Murdoch>>>SKY TV>>>News of the World>>>Sun>>>Times>>>Sunday Times>>>now applying for control of BSkyB>>>listener wrote:And the fact (as I have read) that the 'super spinner' CM has recently switched from Labour to Tory (and is presumably still spinning) makes no sense to me...
Rupert Murdoch>>>daughter Elisabeth Murdoch>>>married Matthew Freud>>>owner and Chief Executive of Freud Communications>>>employed Clarence Mitchell 2009-2010
Labour Government>>>Media Monitoring Unit>>>Head, Clarence Mitchell, 'my job is to control what comes out in the media'>>>Chief Public Relations Officer for the McCanns>>>arranges for Pope to meet the McCanns>>>tells Lori Campbell to put Robert Murat in the frame
Clarence Mitchell, 'my job is to control what comes out in the media'>>>Head of Labour Media Monitoring Unit>>>then, Deputy to Andy Coulson (former News of the World editor>>>Rupert Murdoch) as Conservative Party Head of Communications
Madeleine Foundation leaflet (on our website): 'Clarence Mitchell: A Master Media Manipulator'.
This is how our leaflet about him, revised in 2010, begins:
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This leaflet was first printed in February 2009 and revised in May 2009. It has now been updated a second time.
Clarence Mitchell now works for the PR company, Freud Communications, whose boss is Matthew Freud - the husband of Elisabeth Murdoch, who is the daughter of Rupert Murdoch. Murdoch is the world’s most powerful media magnate, with major terrestrial TV, satellite and media interests in dozens of countries. So who is Clarence Mitchell and why is he employed by the world’s biggest controller of news? Find out some of the answer below.
A COUPLE OF QUOTES
Carlos Anjos, head of the Portuguese police professional association, who had dealings with Clarence Mitchell, said of him: “He lies with as many teeth as he has in his mouth”.
Clarence Mitchell in his own words, on 29 September 2007 to Espresso: “I was the head of the government's Media Monitoring Unit. Forty people work there and their function is to control what comes out in the media."
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People have been googling Goncalo's book like mad since the news that the ban was overturned.
There are many blogs/sites hosting AnnaEsse's translation on the internet and these stats are just for my blog yesterday - over 4,300 people looked at the blog yesterday (the majority of them from the UK) and most stayed long enough to read all chapters http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.com/
I hope Goncalo will now concentrate on getting a new updated English version out there in the bookshops
These are the stats for today so far which shows people are very much interested in Maddie and are still googling for information:
There are many blogs/sites hosting AnnaEsse's translation on the internet and these stats are just for my blog yesterday - over 4,300 people looked at the blog yesterday (the majority of them from the UK) and most stayed long enough to read all chapters http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.com/
I hope Goncalo will now concentrate on getting a new updated English version out there in the bookshops
These are the stats for today so far which shows people are very much interested in Maddie and are still googling for information:
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Good morning Jill and thank you for putting the link on the forum. Have you seen how much weight Goncalo has lost? I hope he has lost the weight by dieting and not through the stress the "gruesome twosome" have inflicted on him.
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Jill,
It's good to see so many people are interested in reading about this case. Thanks for putting the stats up, very interesting
kathyBelle, I thought he looked a lot slimmer too. There are two photos of him on one site(can't remember where) an older one, and yesterday's and he certainly has lost some weight! At least now this injunction is overturned, he must feel a whole lot happier going into the libel trial, he's now got a much better chance of winning. I somehow feel however, this trial will not go ahead now. Do the McCanns really want more adverse publicity, with more details of the files being aired?
It's good to see so many people are interested in reading about this case. Thanks for putting the stats up, very interesting
kathyBelle, I thought he looked a lot slimmer too. There are two photos of him on one site(can't remember where) an older one, and yesterday's and he certainly has lost some weight! At least now this injunction is overturned, he must feel a whole lot happier going into the libel trial, he's now got a much better chance of winning. I somehow feel however, this trial will not go ahead now. Do the McCanns really want more adverse publicity, with more details of the files being aired?
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I think he looks hot!
And yes, Kathy, I think that the McCanns will try and squirm out of the libel trial. But of course, Mr Amaral might not be so willing to let them off the hook. Even as we speak, I believe he is putting a case together to counter-sue, anyway.
And yes, Kathy, I think that the McCanns will try and squirm out of the libel trial. But of course, Mr Amaral might not be so willing to let them off the hook. Even as we speak, I believe he is putting a case together to counter-sue, anyway.
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kathyBelle wrote:Good morning Jill and thank you for putting the link on the forum. Have you seen how much weight Goncalo has lost? I hope he has lost the weight by dieting and not through the stress the "gruesome twosome" have inflicted on him.
He looks very well and healthy.
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kathyBelle wrote:Good morning Jill and thank you for putting the link on the forum. Have you seen how much weight Goncalo has lost? I hope he has lost the weight by dieting and not through the stress the "gruesome twosome" have inflicted on him.
I'm not surprised he's lost weight - and I bet it is through stress. Hopefully things will look up for him and Sofia from now on.
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Thanks JKH.
Loving some of the search term spellings....makes me feel rather proud of my own spelling skills, and that's saying something!
Loving some of the search term spellings....makes me feel rather proud of my own spelling skills, and that's saying something!
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annabel wrote:Tony Bennett wrote:I'm trying to track coverage of this very important story in the British press.
So far I've seen articles in The Guardian, the Daily Star, the Daily Mirror, and on SKY NEWS.
There's an article just gone online in 'The Bookseller':
http://www.thebookseller.com/news/131851-lisbon-court-overturns-mccann-book-ban.html
Has there been anything in, e.g.
The Times?
The Telegraph?
The Sun?
The Daily Mail?
The Daily Express?
The Independent?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/10/20/mccann-blow-115875-22645820/#ixzz12shzHUCU
http://www.thebookseller.com/news/131851-lisbon-court-overturns-mccann-book-ban.html
The Sun (paper edition)
Kate pain on book, 20 October 2010
Kate pain on book The Sun (paper edition)
Wednesday 20 October 2010
THE parents of Maddie McCann were furious yesterday after a Portuguese judge overturned a ban on a book claiming their daughter is dead.
Kate and Gerry McCann last year blocked disgraced Maddie hunt cop Goncalo Amaral publishing The Truth of the Lie.
But a Lisbon appeal court ruled the book can now be sold in Portugal.
The McCanns' lawyer Isabel Duarte said Kate, 41, told her: "That's incredible. I can't believe it is possible."
Amaral claimed the couple, of Rothley, Leics, faked the abduction of Maddie, three, in 2007.
So Mr Amaral is still the disgraced cop!!
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THE parents of Maddie McCann were furious...AGAIN!!!! that poor child never stood a chance, I fear for the twins. I wonder if SS are jotting this 'furious' episode down in their casenotes.VOLATILE is the word most often used by SS when someone dares to express anger....or does that just apply to various sub-cultures, and typically those who don't have a pot to piss in?
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Hi Kadang, The McCanns were regularly asked about their childrens sleeping habits and Kate McCann always said once the children were asleep, they never woke up. I knew that was a lie, because I heard a representative of Warner say there were complaints about the children crying. He said they had been offered the same child care options, they were offered when they arrived at the complex.
I read on the net that there were other complaints about the children crying and the McCanns were asked in various interviews about the complaints. They denied their children ever cried when they were out and they said there were no complaints.
On the first anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance, an interview with the McCanns was shown on television. Kate McCann said that on the morning of the evening Madeleine disappeared, she told them ( the McCanns) that along with Sean she had woken up and cried. Kate McCann said Madeleine's words were "Where were you when me and Sean woke up and cried and you never came to us?" Kate McCann angrily said "I wanted to grab Madeleine by the arm and say, what do you mean you cried?"
I was horrified by Kate McCanns statement, if anything she should have taken Madeleine into her arms, told her she loved her and would never go out and leave her, Sean and Amalie alone again.
Kate McCann then said" we nearly didn't go out that night, but we decided we would and would "UP" our checks to every 30 minutes. I would like to know how often those children were checked on the previous nights they were left alone.
I saw photographs of apartment 5a and I noticed that there was bedding on Madeleine's bed, bedding on the bed Kate McCann slept in, when she had a row with her husband, but no bedding in the twins cots. I found it rather strange that the twins would be sleeping in cots with no bedding.
Earlier this year, Gerry McCann was stood outside the Lisbon court after the hearing between themselves and Dr Amaral had taken place. Gerry McCann was talking about the disappearance of Madeleine, he said "we very much regret leaving Madeleine alone on the night she disappeared." After hearing him say that, I believed and I still believe that the twins were not in the apartment when whatever happened to Madeleine happened.
I believe whatever happened to Madeleine could have either happened when her mother and David Payne were in the apartment with her. For example, she could have been sedated to make her sleep, but then that wouldn't have explained the blood stains. Unless her mother had given her a hiding for being naughty and had gone too far, drawing blood.
If I am wrong about the sedation, I believe that Madeleine could have got out of bed, while her parents were out and had an accident which killed her, hence the blood and cadaver stains.
I saw an interview between Kate McCann and Sandra Felgueiras. Sandra said to Kate McCann that if the twins were in the apartment, when Madeleine went missing, why did she leave them and run to the Tapas Bar, when she could have opened the window and shouted for help. Sandra told her that the abductor could have lain in wait and took the twins while she was out.
Kate McCann wouldn't answer her, so Sandra asked her again, she still wouldn't answer Sandra's question, she changed the subject. I was willing Sandra to press her for an answer but she didn't.
If Kate McCann was speaking the truth about Madeleine and Sean waking up, I believe that she discussed the event with the Tapas group and one of them suggested the twins were taken to their apartment. They could have been taken to the apartment of the ones with the baby monitor or they could have been taken to the apartment of the ones whose mother had joined them on the holiday, to baby sit. If that happened I believe that the bedding out of the cots could have been taken wherever the twins were taken to.
I have listened to the McCanns talk about the checks on the night Madeleine disappeared. Kate McCann said that they didn't leave their apartment until 20:30 and they met their friends in the Tapas Bar. Gerry McCann said he made his one and only check at 21:05. I have heard him give two versions of his check. In one of his versions he said he went into the childrens bedroom and noticed that Madeleine wasn't in bed, he said he presumed she'd either gone to the toilet or got into "our" bed. He never mentioned the twins.
In the next version he said he went to the toilet, then he went into the childrens bedroom. He said "I looked at Madeleine, who was fast asleep and I thought how lucky I was to be her father" He never mentioned the twins.
The next check was supposedly made 21:30, by one of the Tapas group, he was going to see his sickly child who was also alone and he told the McCanns he would check for them. I have heard two versions of this check. The first version was, he didn't enter the apartment, he just listened outside the window. The second version was, he entered the apartment, but didn't go into the childrens bedroom.
One of the Tapas group said, all parents checked their own children.
When I started this post, I was only going to say that I too fear for the twins, but as you can see I've rambled on about other things. Sorry
I read on the net that there were other complaints about the children crying and the McCanns were asked in various interviews about the complaints. They denied their children ever cried when they were out and they said there were no complaints.
On the first anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance, an interview with the McCanns was shown on television. Kate McCann said that on the morning of the evening Madeleine disappeared, she told them ( the McCanns) that along with Sean she had woken up and cried. Kate McCann said Madeleine's words were "Where were you when me and Sean woke up and cried and you never came to us?" Kate McCann angrily said "I wanted to grab Madeleine by the arm and say, what do you mean you cried?"
I was horrified by Kate McCanns statement, if anything she should have taken Madeleine into her arms, told her she loved her and would never go out and leave her, Sean and Amalie alone again.
Kate McCann then said" we nearly didn't go out that night, but we decided we would and would "UP" our checks to every 30 minutes. I would like to know how often those children were checked on the previous nights they were left alone.
I saw photographs of apartment 5a and I noticed that there was bedding on Madeleine's bed, bedding on the bed Kate McCann slept in, when she had a row with her husband, but no bedding in the twins cots. I found it rather strange that the twins would be sleeping in cots with no bedding.
Earlier this year, Gerry McCann was stood outside the Lisbon court after the hearing between themselves and Dr Amaral had taken place. Gerry McCann was talking about the disappearance of Madeleine, he said "we very much regret leaving Madeleine alone on the night she disappeared." After hearing him say that, I believed and I still believe that the twins were not in the apartment when whatever happened to Madeleine happened.
I believe whatever happened to Madeleine could have either happened when her mother and David Payne were in the apartment with her. For example, she could have been sedated to make her sleep, but then that wouldn't have explained the blood stains. Unless her mother had given her a hiding for being naughty and had gone too far, drawing blood.
If I am wrong about the sedation, I believe that Madeleine could have got out of bed, while her parents were out and had an accident which killed her, hence the blood and cadaver stains.
I saw an interview between Kate McCann and Sandra Felgueiras. Sandra said to Kate McCann that if the twins were in the apartment, when Madeleine went missing, why did she leave them and run to the Tapas Bar, when she could have opened the window and shouted for help. Sandra told her that the abductor could have lain in wait and took the twins while she was out.
Kate McCann wouldn't answer her, so Sandra asked her again, she still wouldn't answer Sandra's question, she changed the subject. I was willing Sandra to press her for an answer but she didn't.
If Kate McCann was speaking the truth about Madeleine and Sean waking up, I believe that she discussed the event with the Tapas group and one of them suggested the twins were taken to their apartment. They could have been taken to the apartment of the ones with the baby monitor or they could have been taken to the apartment of the ones whose mother had joined them on the holiday, to baby sit. If that happened I believe that the bedding out of the cots could have been taken wherever the twins were taken to.
I have listened to the McCanns talk about the checks on the night Madeleine disappeared. Kate McCann said that they didn't leave their apartment until 20:30 and they met their friends in the Tapas Bar. Gerry McCann said he made his one and only check at 21:05. I have heard him give two versions of his check. In one of his versions he said he went into the childrens bedroom and noticed that Madeleine wasn't in bed, he said he presumed she'd either gone to the toilet or got into "our" bed. He never mentioned the twins.
In the next version he said he went to the toilet, then he went into the childrens bedroom. He said "I looked at Madeleine, who was fast asleep and I thought how lucky I was to be her father" He never mentioned the twins.
The next check was supposedly made 21:30, by one of the Tapas group, he was going to see his sickly child who was also alone and he told the McCanns he would check for them. I have heard two versions of this check. The first version was, he didn't enter the apartment, he just listened outside the window. The second version was, he entered the apartment, but didn't go into the childrens bedroom.
One of the Tapas group said, all parents checked their own children.
When I started this post, I was only going to say that I too fear for the twins, but as you can see I've rambled on about other things. Sorry
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kathyBelle wrote:When I started this post, I was only going to say that I too fear for the twins, but as you can see I've rambled on about other things. Sorry
Don't be sorry for rambling, Kath... blimey that's why we've got this very nice, friendly forum so we can read everyone's thougths......
Ramble as much as you want.
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Hi Jill and thanks. Lol I've been called a stuck record by certain McCann supporters, who used to post on the old Europe board and now post on other AOL boards. Yes this is a nice friendly forum and I'm glad to be posting here again.
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kathyBelle, good post It is interesting what you say about Warner reps received complaints about the children crying. I have never read this before, or have forgotten due to my useless memory, do you possibly have any links to this?
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Has it ever been ascertained as to whether the Tapas 9 were frequenting another establishment at the point where the staff had to seek them out? An establishment named Chaplins?
Has it ever been ascertained as to whether the Tapas 9 were frequenting another establishment at the point where the staff had to seek them out? An establishment named Chaplins?
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Hi Candyfloss and thanks for your kind words. No I don't have a link to the Warner representative's interview. The interview I saw with the Warner representative was the day after the news about Madeleine's disappearance broke. He was talking about the child care facilities that Warner had to offer.
The rep. said that when the McCanns arrived at the complex, they were offered 3 child care facilities. The first one they were offered was the evening creche, they said they didn't want to use the evening creche, because their children had a strict bedtime routine. He then said they were offered the babysitting service, but they refused, saying they didn't want their children to wake up and find a stranger in their apartment. He then said they were offered the "listening" service, they refused saying that service was no different to the way they checked their children.
Since that interview, I have read on the 'net that there was complaints about the McCann children crying. I read that Warner's brought the McCanns back from a beach bbq to see to their children. They were offered the services they were offered when they arrived at the complex, but once again they refused.
I have posted the above many times on different forums, and I have been told that Warner's did not offer a listening service. Whether they do or don't, the rep said the McCanns were offered the listening service and refused for the reasons I gave. Also I don't understand why the McCanns refused the services of the baby sitter, the second time they were offered the service. The baby sitter was a nanny at the creche the children attended and would have been known to the children.
Another thing has always puzzled me and I'll tell you why. The McCanns were talking about the first evening of their holiday, they said they took their children to a restaurant (sorry I can't remember the name of the restaurant) which was quite a walk from their apartment. They said they didn't have buggy and the children struggled to walk to the restaurant, so they decided that in future, they would eat at the Tapas bar after the children had gone to bed.
After Madeleine disappeared, the McCanns were seen pushing the twins in a twin buggy, if they could get a buggy after Madeleine disappeared, I feel sure they could have obtained one when they arrived in Praia da Luz.
The rep. said that when the McCanns arrived at the complex, they were offered 3 child care facilities. The first one they were offered was the evening creche, they said they didn't want to use the evening creche, because their children had a strict bedtime routine. He then said they were offered the babysitting service, but they refused, saying they didn't want their children to wake up and find a stranger in their apartment. He then said they were offered the "listening" service, they refused saying that service was no different to the way they checked their children.
Since that interview, I have read on the 'net that there was complaints about the McCann children crying. I read that Warner's brought the McCanns back from a beach bbq to see to their children. They were offered the services they were offered when they arrived at the complex, but once again they refused.
I have posted the above many times on different forums, and I have been told that Warner's did not offer a listening service. Whether they do or don't, the rep said the McCanns were offered the listening service and refused for the reasons I gave. Also I don't understand why the McCanns refused the services of the baby sitter, the second time they were offered the service. The baby sitter was a nanny at the creche the children attended and would have been known to the children.
Another thing has always puzzled me and I'll tell you why. The McCanns were talking about the first evening of their holiday, they said they took their children to a restaurant (sorry I can't remember the name of the restaurant) which was quite a walk from their apartment. They said they didn't have buggy and the children struggled to walk to the restaurant, so they decided that in future, they would eat at the Tapas bar after the children had gone to bed.
After Madeleine disappeared, the McCanns were seen pushing the twins in a twin buggy, if they could get a buggy after Madeleine disappeared, I feel sure they could have obtained one when they arrived in Praia da Luz.
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Has it ever been ascertained as to whether the Tapas 9 were frequenting another establishment at the point where the staff had to seek them out? An establishment named Chaplins?
Judge Mental, I only read on the net that the McCanns were brought back from a beach bbq by Warner's to see to their crying children. I have seen interviews where the McCanns have been asked about these reports and they have always denied them. They have always said that once their children were asleep, they never woke up.
Kate McCann must have forgotten what they had said previously, because as I said in a previous post, on the 1st anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance, she told the media, that Madeleine told her on the morning of the evening she disappeared, she and her brother Sean had woke up and cried.
I have heard very little about the movements of the rest of the Tapas group, I did read that one of their children was sick and the couple said they had asked for clean bedding. Apparantly there was no record of the couple asking for bedding.
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Thanks kathy,
I wonder if the PJ interviewed the rep and it is somewhere in the released files, about the children crying on other nights? I think it was the Millenium restaurant (although as I said my memory is c*ap these days) they went to on the first night. As for the buggy's, I presume, that after Madeleine vanished, Warners would have laid everything on they needed for free.
I wonder if the PJ interviewed the rep and it is somewhere in the released files, about the children crying on other nights? I think it was the Millenium restaurant (although as I said my memory is c*ap these days) they went to on the first night. As for the buggy's, I presume, that after Madeleine vanished, Warners would have laid everything on they needed for free.
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