Book Ban Overturned

maebee wrote:Great news:

Gonçalo Amaral looks to launch book in UK

candyfloss wrote:Anyone seen the pic of the Queen reading GA's book on Joana's site



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candyfloss wrote:Anyone seen the pic of the Queen reading GA's book on Joana's site



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listener wrote:

Shibboleth wrote:Here is something even more disturbing. The BIG McCann news on Sky is that the McCanns have "launched a new German website".

Actually it's just the existing website, run through Google Translate. It is full of spelling and grammatical mistakes. I am quite sure that the German people are very appreciative for this mangled version of the Official Website, especially as many German people can speak English anyway. The PayPal button is there, of course. ("Spenden Sie jetzt mit PayPal").

But Martin Brunt devotes a whole section of his blog to this rubbish.

There is not one word - not even one - about the overturning of the book ban, the fact that Goncalo Amaral can now speak freely, that this case has probably cost the McCanns tens of thousands of Euros, and they are still not off the hook.

I have given up even wondering WHY.

I initially thought "Why translate to German" ? - and now wonder if there is a connection to the fact that that part of The Algarve has a very heavy German 'useage'?
(From my past travels, I remember that Lagos and Luz had a very large contingent of English and German visitors/expats)

Shibboleth wrote:

listener wrote:

Shibboleth wrote:Here is something even more disturbing. The BIG McCann news on Sky is that the McCanns have "launched a new German website".

Actually it's just the existing website, run through Google Translate. It is full of spelling and grammatical mistakes. I am quite sure that the German people are very appreciative for this mangled version of the Official Website, especially as many German people can speak English anyway. The PayPal button is there, of course. ("Spenden Sie jetzt mit PayPal").

But Martin Brunt devotes a whole section of his blog to this rubbish.

There is not one word - not even one - about the overturning of the book ban, the fact that Goncalo Amaral can now speak freely, that this case has probably cost the McCanns tens of thousands of Euros, and they are still not off the hook.

I have given up even wondering WHY.

I initially thought "Why translate to German" ? - and now wonder if there is a connection to the fact that that part of The Algarve has a very heavy German 'useage'?
(From my past travels, I remember that Lagos and Luz had a very large contingent of English and German visitors/expats)

Probably more to do with another book about the case, just released by German psychologist Daniela Prousa. Whom I believe comes to much the same conclusions as Goncalo Amaral.

aiyoyo wrote:What may be too late for the mccanns is: it may not be possible for them to withdraw now.
They cant possibly filed a suit which caused people and entity harm, damage, and sufferings then decide to withdraw simply because verdict of supplementary filing they instigated in the interim period went against them. Otherwise their legal suit can be seen as undertaken in bad faith and with ulterior motive eg. ill intention to destroy the other party because of their personal vendetta.

Aimho of course, because I know nothing about the intricate workings of law.

Angelique wrote:I think the McCanns have reached the Catch 22 position - they can neither move forward or pull out. Moving on means they require cash - hence the German connection - doing nothing else means paying damages possibly but GA costs anyway. Directors jumping ship - Rowling, Branson etc. nowhere on the horizon. Only Kennedy may come to the rescue

Return to Portugal to declare their innocence - mission impossible - too risky.

Anyone here play chess - what would you do ?

Angelique

Rainbow wrote:Faked Abduction hasnt made much of a ripple in the literary pond though has it? Does anyone here have a copy?

Cheshire Cat wrote:

Angelique wrote:I think the McCanns have reached the Catch 22 position - they can neither move forward or pull out. Moving on means they require cash - hence the German connection - doing nothing else means paying damages possibly but GA costs anyway. Directors jumping ship - Rowling, Branson etc. nowhere on the horizon. Only Kennedy may come to the rescue

Return to Portugal to declare their innocence - mission impossible - too risky.

Anyone here play chess - what would you do ?

Angelique

Kennedy is so deeply involved in this case, of course he will "come to the rescue", he will spend whatever it takes to keep the case from being re-opened!

Cheshire Cat wrote:

Angelique wrote:I think the McCanns have reached the Catch 22 position - they can neither move forward or pull out. Moving on means they require cash - hence the German connection - doing nothing else means paying damages possibly but GA costs anyway. Directors jumping ship - Rowling, Branson etc. nowhere on the horizon. Only Kennedy may come to the rescue

Return to Portugal to declare their innocence - mission impossible - too risky.

Anyone here play chess - what would you do ?

Angelique

Kennedy is so deeply involved in this case, of course he will "come to the rescue", he will spend whatever it takes to keep the case from being re-opened!

Cherry wrote:I would think a lot of people are going to be worried if they look into the Fund more closely including Kennedy imo

The forensic psychologist Dr. Christian Lüdke leads a company in Essen which supports the victims of robberies, kidnappings, accidents or disasters. He spoke with WELT ONLINE about the possible motives of the McCann couple in the tragic case of the abduction of Madeleine.

WELT ONLINE: You have warned, since early on, that the behaviour of Gerry and Kate McCann indicates their involvement in the crime. What has made you feel that way?

Christian Lüdke: I have, in recent years, cared for many parents who lost their children due to acts of violence. Most of them were under severe shock, feeling helpless, desperate and withdrawn. Many also quarralled. They blamed themselves hugely for not having looked after their child adequately.

WELT ONLINE: It was different with the McCanns?

Lüdke: They live very differently. In public, they are harmonious. Already, after only a few days they went jogging, as if that was a normal thing to do, always appearing together. These parents took matters into their own hands instead of leaving matters in the hands of the police. They distanced themselves from their two other children by going on a European tour, that to me is very strange.

WELT ONLINE: Maybe it was an accident?

Lüdke: No. In such a case, after the first shock, they would have trusted the police. Both parents are doctors, in case of an accident they would have tried to get help. It is even more unrealistic that of all people two doctors would leave 3 children alone in a strange environment, even more at night. I have many doctors as patients. As professionals they know all that can happen to children, and as parents they are overly protective.

WELT ONLINE: What could have been the motive to cause their own daughter's disappearance?

Lüdke: There are parents who have little or no emotional bond with a child. Often such a child is considered a burden that must be dealt with in a brutal or perverted way. The best known is Münchhausen Syndrome by Proxy: The mother tortures the child until it is almost dead and then calls for the police because she herself has a great desire to receive attention.

WELT ONLINE: Do you think it is possible that Madeleine's parents have killed Madeleine and together hidden her?

Lüdke: I believe both parents know what happened.

WELT ONLINE: It means, the McCanns planned the death of their daughter?

Lüdke: Yes, it is possible that they planned this a long time ago, they must at least have played it through in their minds many times and they must have spoken about it together. Otherwise they would now be contradicting each other.

WELT ONLINE: When parents are guilty of killing their child, do they block this fact out of their minds?

Lüdke: Unlikely. Both have clear consciousness, give interviews, travel. It is easier for them to lie than to speak the truth. One can probably exclude a psychosis. Many things point toward a mental disorder. The children of the McCanns were conceived artificially; that can lead to problems in parenthood. Maybe there were self esteem issues that were not openly addressed. Maybe the child had to die due to a problem that had lasted many years.

WELT ONLINE: But the McCanns seem perfect and loving parents.

Lüdke: That public image can be due to a guilt mechanism, like doing a media campaign, to distract attention away from the real problem.

WELT ONLINE: Why do they not go back to Great Britain?

Lüdke: That also speaks against them. When someone loses a child they want to be with their loved ones in a secure environment. By continuing to stay at that resort, where something terrible happened, the worse that can happen to a parent - that is, to lose a child - indicates a survival instinct. As in a mental cinema, these pictures would be constantly running over again. That the McCanns do not return home, where they would have memories of the beautiful times spent with their child, can be seen as an evasive action, in order to avoid having to deal with what they have done.

WELT ONLINE: The world thinks it is impossible that these parents can be guilty.

Lüdke: The media have possibly been taken in by the McCanns. They very quickly attended only after them, instead of around the child. The parents were accompanied like the Beckhams. In his Internet diary, the father writes almost daily about that and other irrelevant/banal things, the shirt he was wearing, what the weather is like. No father in despair could do this. Statistically 70 percent of all the violence against children is caused by the parents, family members or friends. That has unfortunately, to a large extent, not been looked into. The Portuguese police were attacked unfairly when they tried to refer in that direction.

WELT ONLINE: They have already expressed suspicions about the parents, when hardly anyone wanted to know about it. Have you been criticized for it?

Lüdke: Yes, very severely. There were open letters, a campaign on the Internet with professional associations. And I have done no more than look at the whole thing as an outsider.

candyfloss wrote:Anyone seen the pic of the Queen reading GA's book on Joana's site



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aiyoyo wrote:In real life I cant see that happening ie the queen reading the book, or the book going on bookshelves in Uk for that matter. Not for any other reason than because if there's an ongoing investigation, which technically speakly there should be since the case is not closed, the book readily available in UK now could be used as excuse by team mccanns to claim unfair trial.

First of all, for self perservation reason the mccanns would get an injunction against it.
Even if they dont, then also potential publisher might have to play prudent and clear with lawyers before taking on such a publication because of the hugh publicity surrounding the case and high profile mccanns.
If the mccanns were protected then there's no way the book is going to appear in UK.
If they're not, then there's still the issue of applying caution in the avoidance of jeopardising future trial, not forgetting the undelying libel contention.

If Amaral published in English Version in say USA, available for online purchase then readership is restricted somehow to a narrow margin, then that's a different matter.
What is not going to happen is the book going on obvious display in Waterstone or Tesco or whatever, just my view anyway. Of course I could be wrong. We'll just have to wait and see.

Let's hope there's something new to reopen the case or previously disallowed evidence now permissable to reopen the case. Or, a change in poliical scene in PT and PP now allows prosecution.
That's the only way this case can move forward. Obviously if libel takes place before that eventuality, we'll have to see where that leads to......what is that going to lead to.....new evidence produced (that is no released on DVD) to re-arguido the mccanns and retain them in PT. We shall see.

aiyoyo wrote:In real life I cant see that happening ie the queen reading the book, or the book going on bookshelves in Uk for that matter. Not for any other reason than because if there's an ongoing investigation, which technically speakly there should be since the case is not closed, the book readily available in UK now could be used as excuse by team mccanns to claim unfair trial.

First of all, for self perservation reason the mccanns would get an injunction against it.
Even if they dont, then also potential publisher might have to play prudent and clear with lawyers before taking on such a publication because of the hugh publicity surrounding the case and high profile mccanns.
If the mccanns were protected then there's no way the book is going to appear in UK.
If they're not, then there's still the issue of applying caution in the avoidance of jeopardising future trial, not forgetting the undelying libel contention.

If Amaral published in English Version in say USA, available for online purchase then readership is restricted somehow to a narrow margin, then that's a different matter.
What is not going to happen is the book going on obvious display in Waterstone or Tesco or whatever, just my view anyway. Of course I could be wrong. We'll just have to wait and see.

Let's hope there's something new to reopen the case or previously disallowed evidence now permissable to reopen the case. Or, a change in poliical scene in PT and PP now allows prosecution.
That's the only way this case can move forward. Obviously if libel takes place before that eventuality, we'll have to see where that leads to......what is that going to lead to.....new evidence produced (that is no released on DVD) to re-arguido the mccanns and retain them in PT. We shall see.

Angelique wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:In real life I cant see that happening ie the queen reading the book, or the book going on bookshelves in Uk for that matter. Not for any other reason than because if there's an ongoing investigation, which technically speakly there should be since the case is not closed, the book readily available in UK now could be used as excuse by team mccanns to claim unfair trial.

First of all, for self perservation reason the mccanns would get an injunction against it.
Even if they dont, then also potential publisher might have to play prudent and clear with lawyers before taking on such a publication because of the hugh publicity surrounding the case and high profile mccanns.
If the mccanns were protected then there's no way the book is going to appear in UK.
If they're not, then there's still the issue of applying caution in the avoidance of jeopardising future trial, not forgetting the undelying libel contention.

If Amaral published in English Version in say USA, available for online purchase then readership is restricted somehow to a narrow margin, then that's a different matter.
What is not going to happen is the book going on obvious display in Waterstone or Tesco or whatever, just my view anyway. Of course I could be wrong. We'll just have to wait and see.

Let's hope there's something new to reopen the case or previously disallowed evidence now permissable to reopen the case. Or, a change in poliical scene in PT and PP now allows prosecution.
That's the only way this case can move forward. Obviously if libel takes place before that eventuality, we'll have to see where that leads to......what is that going to lead to.....new evidence produced (that is no released on DVD) to re-arguido the mccanns and retain them in PT. We shall see.

aiyoyo

I think you are correct. If it went on sale here the - Mccanns would love it - they could sue him as our laws in the UK are different. I believe TM are actively counter-spinning and want to convince GA to publish here so they can access money for the Fund.

The point you raise regarding a future trial may indeed already have been jeopardised - it is a 'wait and see' situation as you say. We really won't know what the result of the lifting of the ban will be until the McCanns come out and show their hand.

Messing about in German is just a distraction. Proof that the fund is legit.

Angelique

kathyBelle wrote:

Hi aiyoyo, the case is closed/shelved, if it wasn't, the McCanns would not have been able to gain access to the files. The only way the McCanns could gain access to the files, was if the investigation into Madeeline's disappearance ceased and the case closed/shelved. The McCanns agreed to the closing of the case and said they would use their own private detectives to investigate Madeleine's disappearance.

I am not even sure if Goncalo Amaral would have been able to speak about the case as freely as he has done, if the case was still open. Even though Dr Amaral is not a police officer, he was involved with the investigation, for a number of months, until he was removed. I'm sure someone will be able to say if that was so.