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Tennis Balls Photo - NEW ANALYSIS by Michelle Monk Photography

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Tennis Balls Photo - NEW ANALYSIS by Michelle Monk Photography

Post by Tony Bennett on 03.11.18 20:21

A new analysis of the controversial Tennis Balls Photo has been uploaded to YouTube by a lady who runs a photographic business.

I think it is worth discussing.  

It was uploaded on 20 October and has already ratcheted up over 10,000 views in just two weeks - a promising start.

It has been put on YouTube by:

Michelle Monk Photography ... Published, on Oct 20, 2018: "As promised, I have analysed Madeleine MCann's Tennis Ball Photo in great detail using Lightroom and Photoshop CC".




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I will say at the outset that I do not by any means accept all of her evidence, in particular I reject most of the "it just doesn't look right" comments.

However, I am interested in what she says about the possibility - much discussed on CMOMM - that in this controversial photo, Madeleine's head may have been shopped on to another girl's body. This would answer so many questions about this photo, which we must remember is supposed to have been taken by two or three different people on two or three different days (see Lizzy HideHo Taylor's excellent videos on the subject). 

I am interested in whatever observations people with significant digital camera and photoshopping experience have on this video. One thing that this lady does help us on is how easy it is to add bits of details or 'brush' bits on to or off a photograph. Fascinating.

Her videos should be viewed side by side with Petermac's brilliant observations on the Tennis Balls Photo, here:

http://whatreallyhappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.com/2016/08/chapter-21-is-tennis-balls-photo-new.html
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https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13479-chapter-22-tennis-balls-photo  

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And here is the Tennis Balls Photo:


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Re: Tennis Balls Photo - NEW ANALYSIS by Michelle Monk Photography

Post by Tony Bennett on 05.11.18 20:27

OBSERVATIONS ON THE ABOVE VIDEO RECEIVED FROM PETERMAC

Petermac has sent up these observations on Michelle Monk's analysis:

"It doesn't feel / look right'  is not evidence of anything, but may be a pointer to more experienced people to research and try to explain. The original image is so grainy that blowing it up only exacerbates the compression artefacts that we were alerted to during the analysis of the Pool Photo, which was 7 mega pixels.   In my opinion this indicates it was NOT taken on the Canon PowerShot, the McCanns' camera, as I mentioned in Chapter 22.

HOWEVER . . .

The sharp vertical cut off of the pink hat on the [our] right side and the bits of pink/red under the hair line on the [our] left are interesting.


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Re: Tennis Balls Photo - NEW ANALYSIS by Michelle Monk Photography

Post by BlueBag on 07.11.18 8:19

I have never thought the picture is photo-shopped. I've seen no evidence that stood up to scrutiny.

The real question is who took it and when (I think we know where - it's been done to death).

I think it was taken early in the holiday when gathering armfuls of tennis balls was a novelty.
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Re: Tennis Balls Photo - NEW ANALYSIS by Michelle Monk Photography

Post by Tony Bennett on 07.11.18 10:37

@BlueBag wrote:I have never thought the picture is photo-shopped. I've seen no evidence that stood up to scrutiny.

The real question is who took it and when (I think we know where - it's been done to death).

I think it was taken early in the holiday when gathering armfuls of tennis balls was a novelty.
@ BlueBag    Thank you very much for your comments. I know you require the best of evidence before accepting anything as fact or going with any hypothesis, and that is a helpful thing on this forum and we all appreciate it.

You wrote: "The real question is who took it and when (I think we know where - it's been done to death)".

REPLY:  I am not sure I'm aware that we know exactly where it was taken - can you say what your belief is please?

Just to re-cap on some of the main features regarding this photo:

* It's claimed to have been taken by two or three different people

* It's claimed to have been taken on two or three different days

* The physical features on the girl's body (marks, scratches, bruises etc.) look nothing like the Madeleine we see in e.g. the 'Last Photo' by the pool

* Petermac's analysis suggests that it was probably NOT taken on Kate's Canon Sureshot, and

* the account given by Kate McCann in her book of how the photograph came to be taken does not (putting this politely) have the 'ring of truth' about it.

You also wrote: "I think it was taken early in the holiday when gathering armfuls of tennis balls was a novelty".

REPLY:  Then we would have to ask why it was apparently NOT taken by Kate McCann, and why we do not have a credible, coherent explanation of who took it and when. And why is it not admitted to be taken 'early in the holiday'.

The discrepancy between the head which is clearly Madeleine and the rest of the girl's body seems to many of us very stark.

Let me ask you a direct question Do you rule out altogether the possibility that Madeleine's head was shopped on to the body of another girl? Or do you think it might be possible for an expert to conclude that it HAD been photoshopped?

Any other observations you have on this curious photo would be welcomed.


ETA:  Have you read both of Petermac's two chapters on the Tennis Balls Photo, and if so, do you have any additional observations?

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Re: Tennis Balls Photo - NEW ANALYSIS by Michelle Monk Photography

Post by BlueBag on 07.11.18 14:25

I think it was taken looking down on the tennis courts by the children's playground.

It's from an elevated angle - upper level.

It was argued out ages ago.

I think it was taken early because tennis balls are obviously still a novelty to Madeleine.
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Re: Tennis Balls Photo - NEW ANALYSIS by Michelle Monk Photography

Post by Jill Havern on 07.11.18 16:25

From PeterMac:

wholly consistent with Madeleine standing close to the chain link fencing and looking up at the photographer
There are only 3 possible 'T' spots, and the one in the photo is clearly the centre one.
Given the space between it and the base line it cannot be one of the side ones.

Madeleine is therefore standing in the Yellow zone


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Re: Tennis Balls Photo - NEW ANALYSIS by Michelle Monk Photography

Post by NickE on 07.11.18 18:51

@BlueBag wrote:I have never thought the picture is photo-shopped. I've seen no evidence that stood up to scrutiny.

The real question is who took it and when (I think we know where - it's been done to death).

I think it was taken early in the holiday when gathering armfuls of tennis balls was a novelty.
This is a mess.
They showed a reconstruction in Crimewatch special 2013 when "Madeleine was playing Tennis with her parents" and media claimed the Tennis ball photo was taken at that time.
Not on mini tennis?
I'am pretty sure BBC had talked to TM/Mitchell about the content in Crimewatch Special before it was broadcast, or?

The only time I can find when Kate and Gerry played together and she was not in creche was Sunday morning.
Geogina Jackson:
"In the morning"
It seems from the Tennis booking sheets was the first lesson in the morning at 9:00 but....

according to this unmarked creche record(Sunday?) Madeleine was signed in at 9:15.
Who signed her in if Gerry and Kate had a Tennis lesson at 9:00?


It's wrong somewhere.
I doubt the Tennis ball photo is legit but if it is it could been taken 9:00-9:15 on Sunday but the Tennis coach did not say anything about that Kate left the lesson to drop her off in creche, the coach didn't say anything about seeing Madeleine on the court.

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Re: Tennis Balls Photo - NEW ANALYSIS by Michelle Monk Photography

Post by joyce1938 on 07.11.18 23:58

I wrote what I know kate said ,she decided one evening early ,took the kids to see daddy playing ,she might have written it in her book ,some time after the event ofcourse.Thia was when they normally were near to bed time ,So I think and have done for a time now .That was when the picture was taken ,it seems to fit better than anything else we have tried to fit into.joyce1938
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Re: Tennis Balls Photo - NEW ANALYSIS by Michelle Monk Photography

Post by BlueBag on 08.11.18 8:20

@Jill Havern wrote:From PeterMac:

wholly consistent with Madeleine standing close to the chain link fencing and looking up at the photographer
There are only 3 possible 'T' spots, and the one in the photo is clearly the centre one.
Given the space between it and the base line it cannot be one of the side ones.

Madeleine is therefore standing in the Yellow zone


I absolutely agree.

As I said, the question is who took it and more importantly when?.
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Post by Verdi on 08.11.18 11:25

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13479-chapter-22-tennis-balls-photo#355457


@Joyce1938 wrote:I have been saying for some time ,that mrs decided to take kids down to see daddy play ,I think It may have been in the book she wrote later.I don't think anyone replied to what I said ,Very pleased to see another has noticed it .joyce1938

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Re: Tennis Balls Photo - NEW ANALYSIS by Michelle Monk Photography

Post by Marco on 12.11.18 20:26

It's not photoshopped, it's cropped to remove any possibility of timeline analysis. That's why we have seen nothing from any guest in terms of photo or video, when in reality there would be a plentiful supply of images of the overall scene.  A major censorship has occurred of these so that no stories can be challenged. I dont know why the PJ allowed this to happen as seizing all cameras would have been perfectly legitimate in the search of an "abductor" who may have been observing the scene if the story is to be believed...
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