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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Jill Havern 09.04.17 8:18

He said years ago that he believed Maddie was being held in a secret lair in the lawless hills - did he ever go there to search?

Pat Brown and PeterMac went there to search for the McCanns daughter, even Richard Hall has been there, but not sure anyone from Team McCann has ever been there to search for their own daughter.

Maybe they're waiting for Maddie to reach 18, get a job, and make her own way home from the situation she finds herself in.

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Post by plebgate 09.04.17 10:03

I think it would be a good idea to show the CrimeWatch special in Portugal if their PI believes that little Maddie could be being hidden there.  Who knows what info. might crop up from a possible witness in PORTUGAL?


I may be wrong, but it doesn't look to me as though the showing in UK and Germany has given many clues, so I really would be inclined to think that someone actually living in Portugal would be more likely to notice anything suspicious than people living in other countries.

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Post by sharonl 09.04.17 10:36

If Madeleine is in "plain sight" why has the great detective Edgar not found her in 10 yrs? Why has a top police force and millions of pounds not found her.

Further more, what happened to the hellish lair and the Victoria Beckham lookalike?

Edgar needs to wake up and listen to himself, he is coming across as a bumbling idiot
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I know if I had paid out loads of money to hire him I would be pretty unhappy reading these reports in the newspapers and I would be asking myself why I bothered to hire him in the first place.

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Post by anna13 09.04.17 10:44

I am Portuguese and i say bullsh...t.

This is only the McCann Team's reaction to the new film from Richard Hall.
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Post by justagrannynow 09.04.17 10:46

Kate and Gerry McCann really should do something about Dave Edgar. He is an embarrassment who is doing nothing to help the cause. With articles like this, he is turning the disappearance of Madeleine into a farce, unfortunately.
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Post by JulieC 09.04.17 11:03

According to that report Madeleine disappeared from Appt 3a. Looks like He's looking for the wrong child!!
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Post by jeanmonroe 09.04.17 11:10

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/789545/Madeleine-McCann-Maddie-Gerry-Kate-alive-hidden-expert-Portugal

Madeleine McCann IS alive but hidden in plain sight, says top detective

MADELEINE McCann could be living in an isolated property just miles inland from seaside towns on the Algarve, a detective who has worked with her parents believes.

By James Murray, Exclusive
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, Apr 9, 2017 | UPDATED: 09:45, Sun, Apr 9, 2017

Dave Edgar believes Madeleine could be being held captive, hidden in plain sight and unaware of the massive international hunt underway to find her.
Mr Edgar, who was hired by Kate and Gerry McCann for three years to try and find their missing daughter, has disclosed he handed over seven lines of inquiry to Scotland Yard when they launched Operation Grange in May 2011.
Mr Edgar said: “There is every possibility that Madeleine is still alive and could be being hidden somewhere.
“When you get up beyond the main strip of the Algarve there’s countless isolated properties where Madeleine could be being held.
“Obviously we had a number of lines of inquiry and some of those lines did lead us to properties which we followed up and handed over to the authorities.”
As the 10th anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance approaches next month, Mr Edgar, 60, is certain that somebody, possibly living in Portugal or Britain, knows what happened to Madeleine after she was abducted from apartment 3a of the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz on May 3 2007.
He said. “In my experience they (perpetrators) always confide in someone else for whatever reason and that person needs to come forward and speak to the authorities.
“I would suggest that 10 years, while it seems a long time, would not feel like that to that person with information. What happened on that night would still be fresh in their mind.
“It is not too late to come forward and tell the truth. We have seen in a number of cases recently where people have come forward and given evidence of events which took place many years ago.”
The Sunday Express revealed last month that Scotland Yard’s four strong Operation Grange team have been given a further £85,000 to continue making inquiries until the autumn.
There has been speculation officers are interested in an individual who has proved difficult to trace internationally but it is not believed the detectives are on the brink of a breakthrough.
Mr Edgar said: “It does appear that the Metropolitan Police investigation is coming towards an end.
“So now really is the time to come forward, whether it is here in Britain, in Portugal. or anywhere in the world.”
“I think someone has the information that will break this case.” Mr Edgar, had a 30 year career with the Royal Ulster Constabulary and Cheshire Constabulary, before retiring as a Detective Inspector.
Anyone considering breaking a 10 year silence should be reassured they will be dealt with professionally and courteously.
“British police are very experienced in dealing with witnesses,” he said.
I can guarantee they will be well treated well and the information they give would be in complete confidence.
“There is absolutely nothing to fear from coming forward. I would suggest it would ease their conscience to do socome forward, please.”
If Scotland Yard shelve the investigation later this year, Kate and Gerry McCann, of Rothley, Leicestershire, will face the dilemma of whether to launch a new private investigation.
If they do, speculation is mounting that they would ask Mr Edgar to support their efforts to discover what happened to their daughter.
Kate and Gerry are expected to give a TV interview to mark the anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance later this month.
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“British police are very experienced in dealing with witnesses,” he said.


How well did the British Police 'deal' with Gerry's 'witness mate', DP!

DP: 'Pact of silence' and 'I ain't gonna tell you, about the 'few things i know'...it's the wrong 'forum''!

'British Police'..........'Oh, okay...'
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@jeanmonroe wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/789545/Madeleine-McCann-Maddie-Gerry-Kate-alive-hidden-expert-Portugal

Madeleine McCann IS alive but hidden in plain sight, says top detective

MADELEINE McCann could be living in an isolated property just miles inland from seaside towns on the Algarve, a detective who has worked with her parents believes.

By James Murray, Exclusive
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, Apr 9, 2017 | UPDATED: 09:45, Sun, Apr 9, 2017

Dave Edgar believes Madeleine could be being held captive, hidden in plain sight and unaware of the massive international hunt underway to find her.
Mr Edgar, who was hired by Kate and Gerry McCann for three years to try and find their missing daughter, has disclosed he handed over seven lines of inquiry to Scotland Yard when they launched Operation Grange in May 2011.
Mr Edgar said: “There is every possibility that Madeleine is still alive and could be being hidden somewhere.
“When you get up beyond the main strip of the Algarve there’s countless isolated properties where Madeleine could be being held.
“Obviously we had a number of lines of inquiry and some of those lines did lead us to properties which we followed up and handed over to the authorities.”
As the 10th anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance approaches next month, Mr Edgar, 60, is certain that somebody, possibly living in Portugal or Britain, knows what happened to Madeleine after she was abducted from apartment 3a of the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz on May 3 2007.
He said. “In my experience they (perpetrators) always confide in someone else for whatever reason and that person needs to come forward and speak to the authorities.
“I would suggest that 10 years, while it seems a long time, would not feel like that to that person with information. What happened on that night would still be fresh in their mind.
“It is not too late to come forward and tell the truth. We have seen in a number of cases recently where people have come forward and given evidence of events which took place many years ago.”
The Sunday Express revealed last month that Scotland Yard’s four strong Operation Grange team have been given a further £85,000 to continue making inquiries until the autumn.
There has been speculation officers are interested in an individual who has proved difficult to trace internationally but it is not believed the detectives are on the brink of a breakthrough.
Mr Edgar said: “It does appear that the Metropolitan Police investigation is coming towards an end.
“So now really is the time to come forward, whether it is here in Britain, in Portugal. or anywhere in the world.”
“I think someone has the information that will break this case.” Mr Edgar, had a 30 year career with the Royal Ulster Constabulary and Cheshire Constabulary, before retiring as a Detective Inspector.
Anyone considering breaking a 10 year silence should be reassured they will be dealt with professionally and courteously.
“British police are very experienced in dealing with witnesses,” he said.
I can guarantee they will be well treated well and the information they give would be in complete confidence.
“There is absolutely nothing to fear from coming forward. I would suggest it would ease their conscience to do socome forward, please.”
If Scotland Yard shelve the investigation later this year, Kate and Gerry McCann, of Rothley, Leicestershire, will face the dilemma of whether to launch a new private investigation.
If they do, speculation is mounting that they would ask Mr Edgar to support their efforts to discover what happened to their daughter.
Kate and Gerry are expected to give a TV interview to mark the anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance later this month.
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“British police are very experienced in dealing with witnesses,” he said.


How well did the British Police 'deal' with Gerry's 'witness mate', DP!

'Pact of silence' and 'I ain't gonna tell you, about the 'few things i know'...it's the wrong 'forum''!

'British Police'..........'Oh, okay...'


He handed​ over seven lines of inquiry​ to Scotland Yard​ , so not​ to the PJ then , when​ she is hidden in Portugal ?

It's not believed detectives are on the brink of​ a breakthrough ! You don't​ say !!!

Kate and Gerry McCann will face​ the dilemma of whether to launch a new private investigation​ ?  Erm , paying for it how ? Buckets and envelopes again​ ?

" It's​ not too late to come forward and tell the truth " 

The only message in this article​ that​ is absolutely relevant​ , are​ you​ listening​ Kate and Gerry ?

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Post by ChippyM 09.04.17 12:00

@justagrannynow wrote:Kate and Gerry McCann really should do something about Dave Edgar. He is an embarrassment who is doing nothing to help the cause. With articles like this, he is turning the disappearance of Madeleine into a farce, unfortunately.

I very much doubt he is doing this independently.   They are not suing him as repeating this story supports the abduction narrative.  Their top priority is to keep the possibility of their daughter being alive and kidnapped in the public's mind, I have no doubt they have got him to put this story out there. They will do anything they can to detract from any discussion of a death in that apartment, especially with the 10th anniversary coming up and G. Amaral now being able to express himself freely.
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Post by Pershing36 09.04.17 12:14

Daily Mail on it with a Priceless gem in it.


Edgar, who runs Alpha Investigations Group, was hired by the McCanns to look into Madeleine's disappearance.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4394810/Detective-thinks-Maddie-McCann-Algarve.html

Wasn't that company wound up?
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Post by sallypelt 09.04.17 12:24

@Pershing36 wrote:Daily Mail on it with a Priceless gem in it.


Edgar, who runs Alpha Investigations Group, was hired by the McCanns to look into Madeleine's disappearance.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4394810/Detective-thinks-Maddie-McCann-Algarve.html

Wasn't that company wound up?
Alpha Investigations Group is an American company, and d Edgar has/had nothing to do with it. The name was used to confuse, and make it look as if Edgar's dodgy "company" was THIS company. Here is link, if you want to read about this sham:

   http://gerrymccan-abuseofpower-humanrights.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/kate-and-gerry-mccanns-scam-detective.html
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@Pershing36 wrote:Daily Mail on it with a Priceless gem in it.


Edgar, who runs Alpha Investigations Group, was hired by the McCanns to look into Madeleine's disappearance.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4394810/Detective-thinks-Maddie-McCann-Algarve.html

Wasn't that company wound up?
Alpha Investigations Group is an American company, and d Edgar has/had nothing to do with it. The name was used to confuse, and make it look as if Edgar's dodgy "company" was THIS company. Here is link, if you want to read about this sham:

   http://gerrymccan-abuseofpower-humanrights.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/kate-and-gerry-mccanns-scam-detective.html

Edited to add, I haven't read the Daily Fail's article from the link provided, because I am sick to my stomach with all the lies and rehashes coming out in the MSM. They have, and are still, taking us for fools, but the only ones they are making fools of, are themselves.
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@jeanmonroe wrote:
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“British police are very experienced in dealing with witnesses,” he said.


How well did the British Police 'deal' with Gerry's 'witness mate', DP!

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'British Police'..........'Oh, okay...'
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Post by Verdi 09.04.17 12:30

Has the man lost his marbles?  If he's so convinced that Madeleine is being held in Portuguese lawless land, why doesn't he get the Fund Ltd. Co. to cough up a few hundred quid from the eternally diminishing fund and go over and look for himself !!!  I'm sure the McCanns would be grateful if he could solve the mystery of their little daughters disappearance.

Oh no, of course he did that years ago - didn't he?

ETA:  Better still, get the The 'intelligent tabloid' Mirror on the case.  They claim to be experts at ferreting about and solving cases that bewilder official police.

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Post by pennylane 09.04.17 12:37

It's a grotesque indictment that for an entire decade, not a single solitary person within TM has ever exhibited a modicum of honesty or integrity!

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Post by Verdi 09.04.17 12:44

@anna13 wrote:I am Portuguese and i say bullsh...t.

This is only the McCann Team's reaction to the new film from Richard Hall.
Nah!  This is the customary lead-up to an anniversary - notice they always choose the weekend to churn out the latest re-hash of old news.  I guess they think the populace are at leisure to read, absorb and reflect.  Dig deep - Madeleine is an alive and findable little girl.

Have you seen this child..

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What next I ask myself - another blitz of sightings across the globe, or will it be confined to the Algarve?

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Post by Verdi 09.04.17 12:47

@justagrannynow wrote: With articles like this, he is turning the disappearance of Madeleine into a farce, unfortunately.
Turning it into a farce?  It's been a farce since the morning of 4th May 2007.



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Same article, more or less, in the Sun now. It's hard to think of Edgar as a 'top cop' after he said Madeleine could have been mistaken for a woman, as Jane Tanner might have been mistaken - and was also heavily criticised for his bungled investigation of the yacht which left Barcelona harbour. Also he was a 'Jim Gamble groupie' when he worked alongside him in the Royal Ulster Constabulary -

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3292563/madeleine-mccann-with-captor-says-top-cop/

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Post by worriedmum 09.04.17 13:17

Excuse me while I just circumnavigate the huge grey creature with the trunk standing in everyone's metaphorical room, but if incisive , investgative all-round good-egg Mr Edgar honestly believes that Madeleine  is living in plain sight on the Algarve, what on earth is he doing giving out interviews in jolly old Englandshire? Why isn't he there, looking? Turning all the stones?
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Post by pennylane 09.04.17 13:33

@worriedmum wrote:Excuse me while I just circumnavigate the huge grey creature with the trunk standing in everyone's metaphorical room, but if incisive , investgative all-round good-egg Mr Edgar honestly believes that Madeleine  is living in plain sight on the Algarve, what on earth is he doing giving out interviews in jolly old Englandshire? Why isn't he there, looking? Turning all the stones?

Because there's no money underneath those stones!
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Post by Jill Havern 09.04.17 13:36

@pennylane wrote:
@worriedmum wrote:Excuse me while I just circumnavigate the huge grey creature with the trunk standing in everyone's metaphorical room, but if incisive , investgative all-round good-egg Mr Edgar honestly believes that Madeleine  is living in plain sight on the Algarve, what on earth is he doing giving out interviews in jolly old Englandshire? Why isn't he there, looking? Turning all the stones?

Because there's no money underneath those stones!
But there is money if you go to the newspapers to sell a story though.

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Post by pennylane 09.04.17 13:47

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@pennylane wrote:
@worriedmum wrote:Excuse me while I just circumnavigate the huge grey creature with the trunk standing in everyone's metaphorical room, but if incisive , investgative all-round good-egg Mr Edgar honestly believes that Madeleine  is living in plain sight on the Algarve, what on earth is he doing giving out interviews in jolly old Englandshire? Why isn't he there, looking? Turning all the stones?

Because there's no money underneath those stones!
But there is money if you go to the newspapers to sell a story though.

Exacto! Thus has it been since the night M disappeared when only the locals were out (all night) turning over  stones.  Meanwhile the McCanns were in their apartment phoning the press et al.
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Post by Jill Havern 09.04.17 13:53

@pennylane wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@pennylane wrote:
@worriedmum wrote:Excuse me while I just circumnavigate the huge grey creature with the trunk standing in everyone's metaphorical room, but if incisive , investgative all-round good-egg Mr Edgar honestly believes that Madeleine  is living in plain sight on the Algarve, what on earth is he doing giving out interviews in jolly old Englandshire? Why isn't he there, looking? Turning all the stones?

Because there's no money underneath those stones!
But there is money if you go to the newspapers to sell a story though.

Exacto! Thus has it been since the night M disappeared when only the locals were out (all night) turning over  stones.  Meanwhile the McCanns were in their apartment phoning the press et al.
And when Edgar has been paid for these stories he'll be able to fund his own trip to PDL and do some searching, and when he's found Maddie he'll be able to claim the reward.

It's a no brainer.

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Post by pennylane 09.04.17 14:23

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@pennylane wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@pennylane wrote:
@worriedmum wrote:Excuse me while I just circumnavigate the huge grey creature with the trunk standing in everyone's metaphorical room, but if incisive , investgative all-round good-egg Mr Edgar honestly believes that Madeleine  is living in plain sight on the Algarve, what on earth is he doing giving out interviews in jolly old Englandshire? Why isn't he there, looking? Turning all the stones?

Because there's no money underneath those stones!
But there is money if you go to the newspapers to sell a story though.

Exacto! Thus has it been since the night M disappeared when only the locals were out (all night) turning over  stones.  Meanwhile the McCanns were in their apartment phoning the press et al.
And when Edgar has been paid for these stories he'll be able to fund his own trip to PDL and do some searching, and when he's found Maddie he'll be able to claim the reward.

It's a no brainer.
 
He isn't going to find so much as a blue sports bag, because (by his own admission) he only investigates that which Kate and Gerry McCann tell him to. bignono


It's a no brainer for a no brainer methinks.
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