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Post by Doug D 31.01.17 16:08

Any better?

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Post by Rogue-a-Tory 31.01.17 16:21

JRP wrote:What is the opposite of Bouyed?
Sunk

Well a bouy normally marks a sunken wreck laughat
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Post by Jill Havern 31.01.17 16:22

Natasha has cleaned up the translation for us:

The McCanns were denied the appeal presented by the Supreme Court against Gonçalo Amaral. The former Inspector of the Judiciary Police claimed, in his book 'Truth of the Lie', that Madeleine McCann's parents were responsible for HER disappearance in 2007, on Luz beach in the Algarve.




In April 2016, the Court of Appeal annulled the sentence taken by a lower court that forced Gonçalo Amaral to pay compensation to the couple.




The Appellate Court understood that the ex-inspector was free to express his opinion and his book could go back on sale.




Kate and Gerry McCann did not settle for the verdict at the time and said they would appeal the ruling in the Supreme Court. The appeal was filed by the lawyer at the end of May last year.




The decision of the Supreme has now been made known. According to SIC Notícias, the appeal was dismissed and the McCann couple lost the case against Gonçalo Amaral, having now no more opportunities to reverse the decision.

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Post by MayMuse 31.01.17 16:23

No quote from a source or family friend on the article , just rehashed from earlier reports... "2014, McCanns left devastated and crushed"
No updates on Find Madeleine website.



All is quiet.......
Whoosh!

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Post by Jill Havern 31.01.17 16:24

Sun comments already whooshed but Peter's saved them and will send them to me in a mo.

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Post by jeanmonroe 31.01.17 16:24

Doug D wrote:Any better?

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As a retired Police Officer I have been watching with great interest, congratulations
 
One of the Met Officers who stumped up the £1000 donation maybe?

Any 'better'?

Well 'yes'

Ex DCI Redwood and DCI Wall could 'tell' us' what they've 'possibly witheld' ('told' to 'withold'?) about their 'never been normal, investigation' into Madeleine's 'disappearance'.
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Post by Jill Havern 31.01.17 16:25

Natasha posted this on facebook as Portugal Resident site has overheated!



Supreme court rejects Mccanns’ appeal: Amaral vindicated for second time
In a case of “second time proved right” former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral has seen a national court take his side in the long-running civil action taken out by the parents of Madeleine McCann.
The Supreme Court has today convened to consider the case, and is reported by SIC television news as having “dismissed it”.
This means that Supreme Court judges do not consider there are grounds to appeal against the decision given in April last year by Lisbon’s Appellate Court, and which ruled that Amaral was well within his rights of freedom of expression when he wrote the book: “Madeleine: The Truth of the Lie”.
SIC’s report claims the McCanns have now “lost the case against Gonçalo Amaral” as “there are now no further opportunities to reverse the decision” of the Appellate Court.
Whether this is in fact the truth, remains to be seen. The McCanns lawyer Isabel Duarte has intimated to British press that the couple could take the case to the European Court of Human Rights if they lost in Portugal.

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Post by MayMuse 31.01.17 16:26

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Natasha has cleaned up the translation for us:

The McCanns were denied the appeal presented by the Supreme Court against Gonçalo Amaral. The former Inspector of the Judiciary Police claimed, in his book 'Truth of the Lie', that Madeleine McCann's parents were responsible for HER disappearance in 2007, on Luz beach in the Algarve.




In April 2016, the Court of Appeal annulled the sentence taken by a lower court that forced Gonçalo Amaral to pay compensation to the couple.




The Appellate Court understood that the ex-inspector was free to express his opinion and his book could go back on sale.




Kate and Gerry McCann did not settle for the verdict at the time and said they would appeal the ruling in the Supreme Court. The appeal was filed by the lawyer at the end of May last year.




The decision of the Supreme has now been made known. According to SIC Notícias, the appeal was dismissed and the McCann couple lost the case against Gonçalo Amaral, having now no more opportunities to reverse the decision.
No more opportunities to reverse the decision Mr


What were the latest accounts? 
Not sure they will be needing that extension anymore, hope it added value? 
Surely they now have a huge bill(s) to pay?

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Post by Jill Havern 31.01.17 16:27

Thank you PeterMac for saving the whooshed comments roses 




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MADELEINE McCann’s parents have lost their new court appeal to silence the ex-cop who claims they covered up their daughter’s death, Portuguese media reports. Portuguese Supreme Court judges met to…
marian greavesjust now

A good day for common sense and justice, the McCann's brought this action themselves and went all out to seize this mans assets so he couldn't defend himself, maybe they should sue carter ruck for giving them bad advice on persuing it without any research or evidence for their claims of how it affected them, and as for paying court costs they have always insisted they haven't used the public donations for that and their lawyers have always worked pro bono so thats good then isn't it, they didn't win so their lawyers won't charge them a fee then.
Also you have the figures wrong again the sun, Mr Amaral is only likely to have made about £90.000 euros from his book as with any book they only get a percentage of the sales.
 

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McCann are only doing this for the money. In my eyes they are guilty of murdering little maddie, others wise with all the publicity the little girl would have been found.Gerry is after free publicity, none of M cCanns are grieving over loss of their eldest child, it's all for show, to get people to feel sorry for them and to get money off gullible people. Who's funding this court case.
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Maybe now the British police will take off the blinkers and look at the case with an open mind.
Well done, Sr Amaral...the only one to come out of this case with any credibility.

Where's Mr Pink, where's Brunt?
Will this make headline news on Sky?

I think not.

Shame
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That scum bag Amarel should be made to grovel on his knees and beg forgiveness to Kate & Gerry. There should be some retrebution for what he has done and I hope he gets it sooner than later.... bastrad 
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@geff allan Fool....you'll need to pay more into the fund now....
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@Barry Bucket @geff allan thats alright as long as it helps to find her not like you you moron...
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Excellent news. It's about time this vile pair were outed for the murderers they are.
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Well done Goncalo Amaral, its been a long time coming.

Watch and see what the odious pair do next.
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End of the road for the McCann's.

Now they have to meet the court costs of all sides.

Shame.
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They know exactly what happened to their daughter. Why they've never been charged is beyond me.

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Post by MayMuse 31.01.17 16:28

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Natasha posted this on facebook as Portugal Resident site has overheated!



Supreme court rejects Mccanns’ appeal: Amaral vindicated for second time
In a case of “second time proved right” former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral has seen a national court take his side in the long-running civil action taken out by the parents of Madeleine McCann.
The Supreme Court has today convened to consider the case, and is reported by SIC television news as having “dismissed it”.
This means that Supreme Court judges do not consider there are grounds to appeal against the decision given in April last year by Lisbon’s Appellate Court, and which ruled that Amaral was well within his rights of freedom of expression when he wrote the book: “Madeleine: The Truth of the Lie”.
SIC’s report claims the McCanns have now “lost the case against Gonçalo Amaral” as “there are now no further opportunities to reverse the decision” of the Appellate Court.
Whether this is in fact the truth, remains to be seen. The McCanns lawyer Isabel Duarte has intimated to British press that the couple could take the case to the European Court of Human Rights if they lost in Portugal.
Really?
And what about Madeleine's Human Rights?

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Madeleine McCann's parents lose Supreme Court libel appeal

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Published: 16:27, 31 January 2017 | Updated: 16:27, 31 January 2017

LISBON, Portugal (AP) — Portugal's Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that missing British girl Madeleine McCann's parents can't sue for libel a former Portuguese detective who published a book alleging they were involved in their daughter's disappearance.

A court official told The Associated Press that Portugal's highest court ruled the allegations are protected by freedom of expression laws. Also, the judges decided his claims weren't abusive and "were within acceptable limits in an open and democratic society."

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the decision hadn't yet been published.

FILE - In this July 24, 2008 file photo, former detective Goncalo Amaral poses with his book whose title translates as "The Truth in the Lies", during its launch in Lisbon.

Portugal's Supreme Court has ruled that missing British girl Madeleine McCann's parents can't sue for libel a former Portuguese detective who published a book alleging they were involved in their daughter's disappearance. A court official told The Associated Press on Tuesday, Jan. 31, 2017 that Portugal's highest court ruled the allegations are protected by freedom of expression laws and weren't abusive.

A Lisbon court in 2015 ordered Goncalo Amaral to pay Kate and Gerry McCann 500,000 euros ($540,000) in compensation. The McCanns had sought 1.2 million euros. An appeals court last year overturned that conviction, but the McCann's lawyers turned to Portugal's top court.

Madeleine disappeared from a vacation home in Portugal's Algarve region in May 2007, days before her 4th birthday.

Amaral had argued in his defense that the claims in his 2008 book "The Truth of the Lie" stemmed from the police investigation. He also noted that Portuguese media had already reported the possibility that the parents might have played a role in Madeleine's disappearance.

Portuguese police closed the investigation after detecting no evidence of a crime, but British police are still looking into it.

Madeleine's disappearance sparked global interest as pictures of her and her grieving parents were published around the world.


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Post by Jill Havern 31.01.17 16:32

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Get'emGonçalo wrote:Natasha posted this on facebook as Portugal Resident site has overheated!



Supreme court rejects Mccanns’ appeal: Amaral vindicated for second time
In a case of “second time proved right” former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral has seen a national court take his side in the long-running civil action taken out by the parents of Madeleine McCann.
The Supreme Court has today convened to consider the case, and is reported by SIC television news as having “dismissed it”.
This means that Supreme Court judges do not consider there are grounds to appeal against the decision given in April last year by Lisbon’s Appellate Court, and which ruled that Amaral was well within his rights of freedom of expression when he wrote the book: “Madeleine: The Truth of the Lie”.
SIC’s report claims the McCanns have now “lost the case against Gonçalo Amaral” as “there are now no further opportunities to reverse the decision” of the Appellate Court.
Whether this is in fact the truth, remains to be seen. The McCanns lawyer Isabel Duarte has intimated to British press that the couple could take the case to the European Court of Human Rights if they lost in Portugal.
Really?
And what about Madeleine's Human Rights?
They should quit while they're not ahead.

For goodness sake this was supposed to have been about a book which has been all over the internet for years anyway!

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Post by MRNOODLES 31.01.17 16:36

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Supreme court rejects Mccanns’ appeal: Amaral vindicated for second time
In a case of “second time proved right” former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral has seen a national court take his side in the long-running civil action taken out by the parents of Madeleine McCann.
The Supreme Court has today convened to consider the case, and is reported by SIC television news as having “dismissed it”.
This means that Supreme Court judges do not consider there are grounds to appeal against the decision given in April last year by Lisbon’s Appellate Court, and which ruled that Amaral was well within his rights of freedom of expression when he wrote the book: “Madeleine: The Truth of the Lie”.
SIC’s report claims the McCanns have now “lost the case against Gonçalo Amaral” as “there are now no further opportunities to reverse the decision” of the Appellate Court.
Whether this is in fact the truth, remains to be seen. The McCanns lawyer Isabel Duarte has intimated to British press that the couple could take the case to the European Court of Human Rights if they lost in Portugal.
Really?
And what about Madeleine's Human Rights?

It's quite novel really. Go to the Human Rights Court to shut somebody's free  speech up.
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Post by mouse 31.01.17 16:43

So pleased to hear this news - justice well and truly served to someone who really deserves it. HIs brave brave stand for freedom of speech and what he believed in is a lesson to us all - I only wish I had his courage

I guess - justice does come to those brave enough to fight and wait for their day. I hope now that he can now go on and live the rest of his life without the looming threatening McCann Cloud hanging over his head.

Congratulations Goncalo - you truly deserve this victory.
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Post by MayMuse 31.01.17 16:43

MRNOODLES wrote:
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Supreme court rejects Mccanns’ appeal: Amaral vindicated for second time
In a case of “second time proved right” former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral has seen a national court take his side in the long-running civil action taken out by the parents of Madeleine McCann.
The Supreme Court has today convened to consider the case, and is reported by SIC television news as having “dismissed it”.
This means that Supreme Court judges do not consider there are grounds to appeal against the decision given in April last year by Lisbon’s Appellate Court, and which ruled that Amaral was well within his rights of freedom of expression when he wrote the book: “Madeleine: The Truth of the Lie”.
SIC’s report claims the McCanns have now “lost the case against Gonçalo Amaral” as “there are now no further opportunities to reverse the decision” of the Appellate Court.
Whether this is in fact the truth, remains to be seen. The McCanns lawyer Isabel Duarte has intimated to British press that the couple could take the case to the European Court of Human Rights if they lost in Portugal.
Really?
And what about Madeleine's Human Rights?

It's quite novel really. Go to the Human Rights Court to shut somebody's free  speech up.
Indeed, really think its "curtains" for them though on that point IMO.

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Post by jeanmonroe 31.01.17 16:48

BBC keeping 'shtum'!
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The McCanns lawyer Isabel Duarte has intimated to British press that the couple could take the case to the European Court of Human Rights if they lost in Portugal.
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Surely?

The McCanns lawyer Isabel Duarte has intimated to British press that the couple could take the case to the European Court of Human Rights if WHEN they lost in Portugal.................AGAIN!
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jeanmonroe wrote:The McCanns lawyer Isabel Duarte has intimated to British press that the couple could take the case to the European Court of Human Rights if they lost in Portugal.
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Surely?

The McCanns lawyer Isabel Duarte has intimated to British press that the couple could take the case to the European Court of Human Rights if WHEN they lost in Portugal.................AGAIN!
I think that may be an old quote from Duarte, there does not seem to be anything new from any "source" since the fabulous news.

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Brilliant news.

Now to counter-sue.
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Post by Jill Havern 31.01.17 17:06

The Mc's coming up on SKY shortly...

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Kate and Gerry McCann lose legal battle against ex-police chief's book about Maddie

MADELEINE McCann’s parents have lost their appeal to Portugal's highest court over ex-police chief Goncalo Amaral's book.

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PUBLISHED: 16:47, Tue, Jan 31, 2017 | UPDATED: 16:57, Tue, Jan 31, 2017

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Kate and Gerry McCann have lost a legal battle over a book about Maddie
Gerry and Kate McCann have been involved in an eight-year fight over a book written by Amaral, who led the initial hunt when then-three-year-old Madeleine vanished from their Algarve holiday apartment in May 2007.

Amaral was ordered to pay Kate and Gerry £430,000 plus interest in damages after losing round one of their legal battle in April 2015 over his hurtful book 'The Truth of the Lie.'

Appeal judges reversed the initial ruling by a court in Lisbon in April last year, siding with the former police chief and overturning a ban on his book.

Madeleine McCann went missing in the Algarve in May 2007
Madeleine McCann. The search continues
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Please take the time to look at the various computer generated images of how Maddie might look now. Madeleine McCann was abducted on May 4th 2007, as she slept with her brother and sister in an apartment at the Ocean Club Resort in Praia da Luz in the Algarve, while her parents dined with friends at a nearby tapas bar

Madeline McCann went missing from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, in Portugal’s Algarve 9 years ago.
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The decision sparked a fresh appeal by the McCanns to the country's highest law court, which was lodged last May but heard today.

The McCanns' Portuguese lawyer Isabel Duarte was "out of her office" and not immediately available this afternoon to comment.

The ruling in favour of the ex-police chief last year was said to have left the McCanns "seething”, according to a friend.

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Gerry and Kate McCann have been involved in an eight-year fight over the book
Amaral is understood to have earned £344,000 from his book before it was banned and a subsequent TV documentary.

The book was released just three days after Gerry and Kate were told their status as arguidos or formal suspects had been lifted on July 21 2008.

The McCanns told the Lisbon court staging the Amaral trial in the summer of 2014 they were left "devastated and crushed" by his allegations.

Kate, 48, from Rothley, Leics, said Madeleine's twin siblings Sean and Amelie, now 12, knew about Amaral's allegations.

The ex-police chief was removed as head of the investigation into Madeleine's May 3 2007 disappearance after criticising British detectives.

Portuguese prosecutors reopened their probe into Madeleine McCann's disappearance in May 2014, and are now working in close coordination with Scotland Yard's scaled-down Operation Grange probe into the youngster's fate.

Last year Kate and Gerry revealed they had told their twins "everything" about Madeleine's disappearance and said the youngsters still remember her and talk about her often.
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Post by MRNOODLES 31.01.17 17:11

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jeanmonroe wrote:The McCanns lawyer Isabel Duarte has intimated to British press that the couple could take the case to the European Court of Human Rights if they lost in Portugal.
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Surely?

The McCanns lawyer Isabel Duarte has intimated to British press that the couple could take the case to the European Court of Human Rights if WHEN they lost in Portugal.................AGAIN!
I think that may be an old quote from Duarte, there does not seem to be anything new from any "source" since the fabulous news.

Could well be. I'm far from an expert, but I thought the Human Rights Court was there to hear cases of where real Human Rights have been breached.
Not because you've lost a court case over a bloody book.
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Post by sandancer 31.01.17 17:14

Opposite of buoyed , deflated , flattened squashed   , furious , irate wall punching , bed smashing f.....G tosser !! 

Get the wallet out Gerry it's payback time  Mr

Take a rest Señor Amaral you deserve it . Congratulations sir .

Human rights  ! The McCanns never in the past almost 10 years have thought about their daughters human rights it's always been about themselves . Now a good man who refused to go away can get on with his life and his quest for the truth  bravo

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Post by Tony Bennett 31.01.17 17:15

The smile that says: 'VICTORY'!

Dr Goncalo Amaral outside Lisbon court, today, 31 January 2017

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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by SuspiciousMinds 31.01.17 17:19

Thrilled to bits about this! Yeeesssss!!!! Congratulations to Snr. Amaral and everyone who helped him! Mr
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Post by sallypelt 31.01.17 17:20

Excellent news!

Justice has prevailed..........or served Mrs Mrs Mrs spin thumbsup .
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Post by jeanmonroe 31.01.17 17:21

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Madeleine McCann police officer will not have to pay compensation over book

17:04, UK, Tuesday 31 January 2017

Madeleine McCann, from Leicestershire, went missing in 2007

The lead officer in the Madeleine McCann case will not have to pay compensation to her parents over a book he wrote about her disappearance.

Portugal's Supreme Court has ruled that Kate and Gerry McCann cannot sue former Portuguese detective Goncalo Amaral for libel.

Last April Mr Amaral, who had claimed that Mr and Mrs McCann were involved in their daughter's disappearance, won an appeal against his libel conviction.

After that, lawyers for the McCanns took the case to Portugal's top court.

In 2015, Mr Amaral was ordered to pay 606,000 euros to the couple as their two-year libel trial came to an end.

Now, Portugal's Supreme Court has decided that the allegations are protected under laws covering freedom of expression, the AP news agency reported.

Judges have decided that Mr Amaral's claims were not abusive and remained "within acceptable limits in an open and democratic society".

In defence, Mr Amaral argued that claims in his book, The Truth of the Lie, originated from the police investigation into the little girl's disappearance.

That investigation was closed after detectives found no evidence of a crime.

Madeleine was three years old when she vanished while on a family holiday in Portugal in May 2007.

Her disappearance triggered one of the most high-profile missing persons investigations in British history.
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Post by Tony Bennett 31.01.17 17:22

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Post by Jill Havern 31.01.17 17:23

Tony Bennett wrote:The smile that says: 'VICTORY'!

Dr Goncalo Amaral outside Lisbon court, today, 31 January 2017

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A bittersweet victory.

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