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Post by j.rob 21.06.14 14:24

Peter Wilmshurst, a cardiologist and a campaigner on medical research fraud.



Now this is a man I would like to interview. 



Let's hope he doesn't get 'whooshed'.
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Post by j.rob 21.06.14 14:37

ufercoffy wrote:The wider agenda - Page 3 Zzgerr10

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Are we any closer to knowing what this 'wider agenda' is yet?

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Look at the loving, intense gaze that Gerry is bestowing on his new 'baby'. Almost as if he is in love. His eyes are positively caressing what he clearly thinks is a brilliant work of art.
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Post by Rasputin 21.06.14 14:52

The hounours system in This country has been an embarrassing sham for a long long time....A knighthood for riding a bike ? ...busfare home for losing your legs in service ...sickening .

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Post by j.rob 21.06.14 15:00

Mirage wrote:
Constablekid wrote:I wonder if 'Investigation' was first written as 'invest' and he later added the 'igation' bit on the end?
 big grin


Both the word INVEST and the word (LIT) IGATION are very apt.


If you look carefully, you can see that the word INVESTIGATION looks different on the top chart compared with the picture below. The top one looks more like is starts with QUEST or something. Knowing Gerry, I bet there are some hidden meanings and codes in here. He's like The Joker.
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Post by j.rob 21.06.14 15:09

If Gerry's identical twin is THE JOKER.

Who is Kate's identical twin?
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Post by Markus 2 21.06.14 17:09

LYING & COVERING UP IS EXPECTED OF A FREEMASON:
The Handbook of Freemasonry (page 183) says to Master Masons:

"You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons...and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him... It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping your obligations",You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons, except murder and treason,Not murder, was it.
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Post by Markus 2 21.06.14 18:25

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The wider agenda - Page 3 C:\Users\Clive\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_image001  l'idiote Today at 9:46 am
Regarding the emphasis on the word (and images of a) 'Key'.

http://www.masonicdictionary.com/key.html

KEY

"The Key," says Doctor Oliver (Landmarks I, page 180), "is one of the most important symbols of Freemasonry. It bears the appearance of a common metal instrument, confined to the performance of one simple act. But the well-instructed brother beholds in it the symbol which teaches him to keep a tongue of good report, and to abstain from the debasing vices of slander and defamation." Among the ancients the key was a symbol of silence and circumspection; and thus Sophocles alludes to it in the Oedipus Coloneus (line 105), where he makes the chorus speak of "the golden key which had come upon the tongue of the ministering Hierophant in the mysteries of Eleusis-Callimachus says that the Priestess of Ceres bore a key as the ensign of her mystic office. The key was in the Mysteries of Isis a hieroglyphic of the opening or disclosing of the heart and conscience, in the kingdom of death, for trial and Judgment.

And you have the key here around what appears to be   Kate s neck

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I cannot copy that photo but it is on the first page of ,Madeline s makeup, thread Shocked

never going to happen is it .
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Post by Justformaddie 21.06.14 18:52

j.rob wrote:
ufercoffy wrote:The wider agenda - Page 3 Zzgerr10

The wider agenda - Page 3 Zzgerr11

Are we any closer to knowing what this 'wider agenda' is yet?

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Look at the loving, intense gaze that Gerry is bestowing on his new 'baby'. Almost as if he is in love. His eyes are positively caressing what he clearly thinks is a brilliant work of art.
Certainly nothing to do with maddie, not even her name  Sad

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Post by Markus 2 21.06.14 19:14

interesting Idiote

The key, however, is still preserved as a symbol of secrecy in the Royal Arch Degree; and it is also presented to us in the same sense in the ivory key of the Secret Master, or Fourth Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite. In many of the German Lodges an ivory key is made a part of the Masonic clothing of each Brother, to remind him that he should lock up or conceal the secrets of Freemasonry in his heart
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Post by SchrodingersBody 21.06.14 19:39

PeterMac wrote:Am I a "Hater" if I believe the Tapas 7 statements that the weather was cold, and do NOT believe Kay Burley that it was a warm evening
OR
Am I a "Hater" if I believe Kay Burley that the evening was warm and choose NOT to believe the Tapas 7

Am I a "hater if I believe that the curtains were wide open,
OR
am I a "Hater" if I believe they were tight closed.
In each case I have specifically to put aside what Kate said on the other occasion

OR am I just a "Hater" because I don't blindly accept the "Story of the Day"
I've been on twitter.....It's the last one primarily, with bits of the others thrown in.
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Post by j.rob 21.06.14 20:12

Ad hominem attack. You label a person who is asking legitimate (and awkward) questions as a 'nutter', 'conspiracy theorist', 'hater', nasty person with evil thoughts.

And so on.

It's a bit like the witch hunt of old. Or the strategy whereby you got someone admitted to a loony bin, just to shut them up, discredit them and generally get them out of your evil way.

Whereas, quite often, the people making these kinds of ad hominem attacks are guilty of the very thing they are accusing their critics of.

It's a technique that is as old as the hills. 

Beloved of people who want to cover up negligence, bad behaviour, unprofessional behaviour, incompetence, dishonesty, corruption. And so on.

I've seen it again and again.
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Post by j.rob 21.06.14 20:16

McCann hater = McCann disbeliever. 

I am a McCann non-believer. 

Nothing to be ashamed of.

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Post by The Rooster 21.06.14 20:16

Gerry McCann and his use of jargon talk is all about elevating his ego in others peoples estimation. It bolsters his confidence and makes him feel sophisticated.  It's the classic tool of the bullshitter.  All for show.

Remember his less than convincing interview with Jeremy Paxman, the prick was all over the place trying to dance around with words and tripping up time and again..  ******* amateur!

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Post by j.rob 21.06.14 20:20

I love that interview. Paxman looked as though a very bad smell had arrived and he couldn't bear it. His body language was such a giveaway. He really looked disgusted.

In my opinion.
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Post by XTC 22.06.14 0:31

fossey wrote:He likes to get that word 'KEY' in again.

Mr obsessed with the 'Key'.

The key to this.. The Key to that.

Well hopefully Mr they will be throwing away the Key very soon. Yes, the Key to your Prison Cell.
There are some ' Keys ' here:

taken on the early morning of the 4th of May 2007.

One is a Crucifx key -front door

One is a big deadlock key.

One looks like a car key - a very old ( pre 1987 car) key.
 Thanks to the wonderful Pamalam for this.


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Also: a statement from Maria Manuela Martins da Silva;

With thanks to the maddiecasefiles.



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Maria Manuela Martins da Silva

Date/Time: 2007/05/08 14H00
Domestic
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Concerning the issue of the process said;
. That she resides in Praia da Luz;
. That she often visits ********, sister of her boyfriend, who resides in Block 6, Apartment 5 in the resort known as the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz, in Lagos
. The block in question is contiguous with that one occupied by the McCann family, and is a ground-floor with a kitchen window having visibility to the back windows of the apartment occupied by Madeleine McCann;
. On 03-05-07, the deponent, as is customary, visited her friend ******, as a rule she passes the afternoon with her;
. The night, generally around 22H00, she leaves with her boyfriend, *******, for their residence indicated above;
. Declares that she left the apartment around 22H00, as was her habit, as the deponent generally makes and receives calls to family at 22H30 at/from her residence;
. The deponent and her boyfriend have two vehicles, a light passenger jeep of the mark Opel, model Frontera, green in colour, with license plate ***** and another light passenger vehicle, mark-Renault, Laguna model, gery in colour with license plate *****;
. Together the vehicles are registered in the name of her boyfriend;
. Declares further that on the night 03-05-07, she left the apartment at around 21H58—she remembers the exact time because she asked her friend the time and she responded after checking this on the telephone in the lounge;
. They left the building and the deponent and her boyfriend took the Opel Frontera, previously indicated, which was parked out front of the apartment, in the private parking area of Block 6 where her freind’s apartment was located;
. She declares that the night was good with a breeze, and that it was dark;
. After leaving Block 6, they turned right and after left, passing in front of the block occupied by the McCanns. She states that she saw no movement of people, and that in the immediate areas of the blocks she saw no vehicle with the exception of a small car, that appeared to her grey in colour, parked close to the window of the McCann apartment;
She declares further that she mentioned this fact to her boyfriend and that it wasn’t yet summer given the movement on the roads, and at that hour movement was nill;
. States that she looked at the exit of the apartment and that from the flat above the McCanns, she saw light, and also in from of the apartment, but she could not define, concretely, where she saw the light when she passed the McCann apartment;
. Next to the tree, she did not detect any movement of people or vehicles, and nothing struck her as abnormal in that zone that would have raised her suspicions;
. She only learnt of what had happened to little Madeleine the next day after having received a telephone call from her friend, who alerted her to what had happened;
. And nothing more said, having read the statement, finds it in conformity and signs it;
. The document is duly signed by me …

Carlos Dordonnat, Inspector with this Polícia Judiciária.
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Post by j.rob 22.06.14 0:34

Good for him that he bowled out......

what a hideous can of worms....
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Post by Brian Griffin 22.06.14 2:50

Markus 2 wrote:
LYING & COVERING UP IS EXPECTED OF A FREEMASON:
The Handbook of Freemasonry (page 183) says to Master Masons:

"You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons...and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him... It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping your obligations",You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons, except murder and treason,Not murder, was it.
And there you have the whole thing in a nutshell. Freemasonry trumps the Law. Gerry isn't a Freemason is he, by any chance?
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Just noticed but...top pic - I mean 'kinell couldn't your wife have, at least, ironed it for you!

Maybe she was writing one of her bewks.
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Post by Guest 22.06.14 10:27

more 'keys' there as well fossey...

I too, can't yet understand the significance of the 'key' word - unless our GM thinks it makes him sound intelligent  big grin
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Post by MRNOODLES 22.06.14 13:58

'The Wider Agenda' is an anagram of 'Hidden Waterage'.
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Post by Guest 22.06.14 14:58

The Rooster wrote:Gerry McCann and his use of jargon talk is all about elevating his ego in others peoples estimation. It bolsters his confidence and makes him feel sophisticated.  It's the classic tool of the bullshitter.  All for show.

Remember his less than convincing interview with Jeremy Paxman, the prick was all over the place trying to dance around with words and tripping up time and again..  ******* amateur!
Exactly. Summative Overview my ar$e.
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Post by tigger 22.06.14 19:28

Dee Coy wrote:
The Rooster wrote:Gerry McCann and his use of jargon talk is all about elevating his ego in others peoples estimation. It bolsters his confidence and makes him feel sophisticated.  It's the classic tool of the bullshitter.  All for show.

Remember his less than convincing interview with Jeremy Paxman, the prick was all over the place trying to dance around with words and tripping up time and again..  ******* amateur!
Exactly. Summative Overview my ar$e.

Perhaps we should have a topic on Gerry's attempt at  speaking in Blairese/official mode.

Starting with the 'no comment'  when asked if he knew Murat.

The Paxman interview. Paxman looked as if he could not believe what he heard, Gerry nattered on as if he was selling a dodgy car.

Apparently early in the case he gave what some have called his 'JFK speech'  - I dont know  which one that was but I'd love to know.

The speech by Wright to the assembled on the 18th has all the hallmarks of GM trying to sound really big business. Gleefully mentioning multi-nationals, celebrities and sport stars as 'partners' .

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Post by Guest 22.06.14 19:45

tiggerf wrote:Apparently early in the case he gave what some have called his 'JFK speech'  - I dont know  which one that was but I'd love  to know. 
"Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you".


Allegedly.
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Post by cassius 22.06.14 20:08

Jeremy knows.
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Post by HelenMeg 22.06.14 20:10

cassius wrote:Jeremy knows.
Yes, and I think Woman's Hour Radio 4 presenter probably knows too - Jenni
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Post by tigger 22.06.14 20:20

BlueBag wrote:
tiggerf wrote:Apparently early in the case he gave what some have called his 'JFK speech'  - I dont know  which one that was but I'd love  to know. 
"Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you".


Allegedly.

Errm I meant what Gerry said, don't think he was quoting JFK but sounding presidential.... i believe it was soon after a church service.

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Post by Liz Eagles 22.06.14 21:38

25th August 2007 Gerry goes to Edinburgh media conference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U88W_bAvgDI
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Post by Guest 22.06.14 21:52

Just watched 3 mins of video, that's quite enough of Gerry for one night.  Incredible to think, Aquila, that his daughter had disappeared just 3 months before the interview.  You'd think he'd mislaid his shopping from the way he is speaking, no sadness nor emotion shown.
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Post by Guest 23.06.14 9:16

The Rooster wrote:Gerry McCann and his use of jargon talk is all about elevating his ego in others peoples estimation. It bolsters his confidence and makes him feel sophisticated.  It's the classic tool of the bullshitter.  All for show.

Remember his less than convincing interview with Jeremy Paxman, the prick was all over the place trying to dance around with words and tripping up time and again..  ******* amateur!

If you want people to understand what you are saying, you use plain English.

If you cannot explain it in plain English, you don't understand it adequately.

Gerry has had medical training where it would have been drummed into him that he needs to speak to his patients using terms they can comprehend such as heart attack rather than myocardial infarction.

Yep - he's a bullshitter and not a good one.

I wonder if he needs to bolster his confidence because, in spite of the title cardiologist, he simple isn't any good at medicine? Perhaps he was given his research role as the NHS equivalent of sitting in a corner drawing with crayons.
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