Re: The wider agenda

by j.rob 20.06.14 13:54

ufercoffy wrote:

Are we any closer to knowing what this 'wider agenda' is yet?

A graphologist would have a field-day with the McCanns. Have a good look at the word INVESTIGATION. The end of the word is distinctly darker, as though heavily written over.

And in actual fact, the final few words look more like AnOR, with a strange sharp upturned line going up right at the end of the R. Almost like a slanting exclamation mark, but you can't see the bottom of it.

A very strong line comes from the letter G which provides the cross stroke for the A then appears to go though the middle of a lower case n which is hooked on the line and the final distinct letter looks like a heavily drawn R. There is that line going going up sharp right.

Also of note, look at the manner in which Gerry is staring fixedly at the chart. With real intent.

by j.rob 20.06.14 14:30

Not sure whether there is any symbolism or whatever in those overstroked letters - whether they are supposed to be letters or not - but one thing I would be sure of is that the overstoking and the slightly 'neurotic' look of the end of that word compared to the way everything else is written is a sign that this is a very touchy area for Gerry.

As you would imagine, really.

Plus under-stroking the word KEY three times. A word of huge significance for Gerry.

by Brian Griffin 20.06.14 14:33

j.rob wrote:Also of note, look at the manner in which Gerry is staring fixedly at the chart. With real intent.

LOL. Looks to me like he's thinking, 'What the F$%& does all this mean?'

by j.rob 20.06.14 14:41

Nail Amaral?

by HelenMeg 20.06.14 14:59

Brian Griffin wrote:
j.rob wrote:Also of note, look at the manner in which Gerry is staring fixedly at the chart. With real intent.

LOL. Looks to me like he's thinking, 'What the F$%& does all this mean?'

Looks like a massive smirk to me - he definitely feels 'protected' in this photo

by **tigger** 20.06.14 15:02

That photograph was my light bulb moment. To me Gerry looks there like a man finally able to get on with his pet project.

Which was perhaps a little delayed, or might have been in danger of sinking without trace in the very early days.

5 million hits on the website, celebrities, multi-nationals, communication giants, all partners! All came out fine - for the moment anyway.

by Hicks 20.06.14 15:14

That is a picture of a man in control. Gerry has controlled everything and everybody form the very beginning. Kate's bruised wrists are evidence to that. GM uses his favourite sound bites on that flipchart, the ones we've heard many times. Utterly meaningless, but I guess it sounds good to all those paying punters.

by j.rob 20.06.14 15:43

Weren't they trying to nail Murat at the time this photo was taken?

by Garrincha 20.06.14 15:49

Hello j.rob - the "dashes" under the words key may be a form of bulletpoint, rather than underlining

by Guest 20.06.14 15:51

This photo really makes me angry. There he is plotting in full view how to turn it all round and actually profit from the demise of his child. I can see the cogs whirring in his brain. He is full of his own self-importance, lecturing people as though he was giving a tutorial on ECG interpretation to students.
Where is Madeleine in this?
Where did he write her name? With his two different coloured markers.
The fund! The wider agenda! WTF????
In his arrogance he is trying to confuse with his intellect. And here he is seriously deluded.
I think "investigation" was probably spelt wrongly initially. Wouldn't surprise me.

These two lied again in the full glare of the media on Monday morning. And nothing. No reaction from SY, PJ or the British MSM.
What do they have to do to be fully and properly investigated?
soz

for the rant.

by j.rob 20.06.14 15:52

On 11^th July 2007, a formal confrontation between the Tapas 3 and Mr Murat took place in Portimao. He stuck to his guns: they stuck to theirs' and it became a standoff. In this meeting Miss Tanner was able to get a very good look of Mr Murat and apparently continued to maintain he was the “person” she had seen carrying the “child on 3^rd May 2007”, despite the fact he looked nothing like the “Egg Man” The PJ seemed to believe Mr Murat.

http://thetapas9janetanner.blogspot.com.es/2012/02/jane-tanner-and-framing-of-robert-murat.html

by worriedmum 20.06.14 16:06

Dantezebu wrote

''These two lied again in the full glare of the media on Monday morning. And nothing. No reaction from SY, PJ or the British MSM.
What do they have to do to be fully and properly investigated?''

goodpost

Well it's your own fault, Dantezebu, for being a 'hater' lol!

by Brian Griffin 20.06.14 16:22

When people use the word 'hater' it keeps reminding me of a bizarre episode of 'Kitchen Nightmares USA' when two utterly obnoxious people, 'Crazy' Amy and her self-styled 'gangster' husband accuse anyone who crosses them or who rates them negatively as 'haters' when you only need to see the way they behave to understand why anyone would dislike them. And even funnier is that they can't see it! Check it out on Youtube if you haven't seen it - 'Amy's Baking Company' (even if you can't stand Ramsay) and also the cartoon someone made of them on the same site.

by Guest 20.06.14 16:50

worriedmum wrote:Dantezebu wrote

''These two lied again in the full glare of the media on Monday morning. And nothing. No reaction from SY, PJ or the British MSM.
What do they have to do to be fully and properly investigated?''

Well it's your own fault, Dantezebu, for being a 'hater'

LOL worriedmum laughat

rant over...
the dogs were getting upset

by **PeterMac** 20.06.14 17:06

Am I a "Hater" if I believe the Tapas 7 statements that the weather was cold, and do NOT believe Kay Burley that it was a warm evening
OR
Am I a "Hater" if I believe Kay Burley that the evening was warm and choose NOT to believe the Tapas 7

Am I a "hater if I believe that the curtains were wide open,
OR
am I a "Hater" if I believe they were tight closed.
In each case I have specifically to put aside what Kate said on the other occasion

OR am I just a "Hater" because I don't blindly accept the "Story of the Day"

by worriedmum 20.06.14 17:12

Oh Peter you KNOW that you are. And I don't believe that the EVRD dogs Eddie and Keela were mistaken-so I must be too!

Mrs

by **tigger** 20.06.14 17:46

dantezebu wrote:This photo really makes me angry. There he is plotting in full view how to turn it all round and actually profit from the demise of his child. I can see the cogs whirring in his brain. He is full of his own self-importance, lecturing people as though he was giving a tutorial on ECG interpretation to students.
Where is Madeleine in this?
Where did he write her name? With his two different coloured markers.
The fund! The wider agenda! WTF????
In his arrogance he is trying to confuse with his intellect. And here he is seriously deluded.
I think "investigation" was probably spelt wrongly initially. Wouldn't surprise me.

These two lied again in the full glare of the media on Monday morning. And nothing. No reaction from SY, PJ or the British MSM.
What do they have to do to be fully and properly investigated?
for the rant.

It's all this purporting that's takes it out of you..... winkwink

Yes, quite, probably misspellling, arrows diving into the fund.
If you want a good laugh, have a look at his powerpoint presentation a mere six months later.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t7461-powerpoint-presentation-by-tm?highlight=Powerpoint

by Cordelia 20.06.14 18:02

It looks to be like;- Investigation Fund Campaign

Key Drivers Key objectives

Investigation .........Employ Detective Agencies, feed the Press several Photos of Madeleine so everyone around the World will know what she looks like

Fund Campaign .......Purchase of T shirts etc to not only fund the campaign but advertise Madeleine Encourage Banks to have a moneybox on their
Counters to raise money from Customer donations.

These 2 factors will create a wider agenda in the search for Madeleine LOL

by AndyB 20.06.14 18:36

Brian Griffin wrote:When people use the word 'hater' it keeps reminding me of a bizarre episode of 'Kitchen Nightmares USA' when two utterly obnoxious people, 'Crazy' Amy and her self-styled 'gangster' husband accuse anyone who crosses them or who rates them negatively as 'haters' when you only need to see the way they behave to understand why anyone would dislike them. And even funnier is that they can't see it! Check it out on Youtube if you haven't seen it - 'Amy's Baking Company' (even if you can't stand Ramsay) and also the cartoon someone made of them on the same site.

I agree its worth watching but for me it was the other way around. When I saw mad Amy I thought "so *thats* what the pros are like in real life

by tasprin 20.06.14 19:20

PeterMac wrote:Am I a "Hater" if I believe the Tapas 7 statements that the weather was cold, and do NOT believe Kay Burley that it was a warm evening
OR
Am I a "Hater" if I believe Kay Burley that the evening was warm and choose NOT to believe the Tapas 7

Am I a "hater if I believe that the curtains were wide open,
OR
am I a "Hater" if I believe they were tight closed.
In each case I have specifically to put aside what Kate said on the other occasion

OR am I just a "Hater" because I don't blindly accept the "Story of the Day"

The 'Look for Maddie' coloboma was only a 'fleck'; The Shutters weren't jemmied after all; Jane Tanner's Bundleman didn't really abduct Madeleine; The Fund to find her was used to sue a policeman; 'The Search' didn't answer the helpline or follow up leads. All good marketing ploys but the story, as told in May 2007, turned out to be pants. Labelling sceptical people as haters is another marketing ploy = We didn't tell the truth but you're a hater for questioning us.

by Liz Eagles 20.06.14 19:30

tasprin wrote:
PeterMac wrote:Am I a "Hater" if I believe the Tapas 7 statements that the weather was cold, and do NOT believe Kay Burley that it was a warm evening
OR
Am I a "Hater" if I believe Kay Burley that the evening was warm and choose NOT to believe the Tapas 7

Am I a "hater if I believe that the curtains were wide open,
OR
am I a "Hater" if I believe they were tight closed.
In each case I have specifically to put aside what Kate said on the other occasion

OR am I just a "Hater" because I don't blindly accept the "Story of the Day"

The 'Look for Maddie' coloboma was only a 'fleck'; The Shutters weren't jemmied after all; Jane Tanner's Bundleman didn't really abduct Madeleine; The Fund to find her was used to sue a policeman; 'The Search' didn't answer the helpline or follow up leads. All good marketing ploys but the story, as told in May 2007, turned out to be pants. Labelling sceptical people as haters is another marketing ploy = We didn't tell the truth but you're a hater for questioning us.

Not attractive pants, not pants that at least capture the eye - just these pants big pink pants. laughat

The wider agenda - Page 2 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTllypE4qAIoTH1n84D9dICp3VTmkNYd_nBh8IjnSs7jkfKkcii

by Guest 20.06.14 19:46

Judge Mental wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:I like the way he adds up his maths : investigation + fund = wider agenda.

What wider agenda? Isn't this about finding maddie?

It is either about investigation or about fund - how can the two be co-related?

Why was he corelating fund to investigation? Does it mean they'd meant this fund from the start for dodgy pi to keep up appearance, hence the wider agenda objective?

It is many years since one was at school and perhaps things have changed now, however to have a summative overview on the day where Gerald McCann had drawn up this mystical diagram, suggests something that would not be traditionally regarded as having had any intrinsic learning value at that point.

Exactly. A summative overview is one which assesses how successful a plan has been following it's conclusion. This plan is in the formative stage, Gerry himself states that the meeting was to discuss future campaign ideas.

His use of 'summative' is just another example of him erroneously trying to demonstrate his intellect. The thick fcuk.

by Constablekid 21.06.14 8:14

I wonder if 'Investigation' was first written as 'invest' and he later added the 'igation' bit on the end?

by sallypelt 21.06.14 8:21

When are the McCann's going to get their gong?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/surgeon-made-mbe-last-week-was-struck-off-in-2002-for-research-fraud-9552928.html

by Mirage 21.06.14 8:26

Constablekid wrote:I wonder if 'Investigation' was first written as 'invest' and he later added the 'igation' bit on the end?

by missbeetle 21.06.14 9:13

sallypelt wrote:When are the McCann's going to get their gong?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/surgeon-made-mbe-last-week-was-struck-off-in-2002-for-research-fraud-9552928.html

I was surprised to see Our Lady of the Veins - Angelina Jolie - beat our Kate to a Damehood.

I fear that Gerry's penchant for polo shirts may be partly to blame.

I cannot take him seriously.

Meanwhile, check out this meritorious MBE'd martial artist...

The wider agenda - Page 2 <a href=

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(Ssssnipped from the Daily Mail)

by Cordelia 21.06.14 9:28

Morning all,

Whatever we think of the McCanns it has to be said that they have been in the spotlight for 7 years, managed to make millions of £'s , some to go to the Fund, deleted not fact and stated as fact , been interviewed around the World........yet STILL have managed to avoid an investigation for fraud and no suspicion of their involvment in Madeleine's disappearance , except in Forums and blogs. Quite an acheivement , like the JonBenet case.

by l'idiote 21.06.14 9:46

Regarding the emphasis on the word (and images of a) 'Key'.

http://www.masonicdictionary.com/key.html

KEY

"The Key," says Doctor Oliver (Landmarks I, page 180), "is one of the most important symbols of Freemasonry. It bears the appearance of a common metal instrument, confined to the performance of one simple act. But the well-instructed brother beholds in it the symbol which teaches him to keep a tongue of good report, and to abstain from the debasing vices of slander and defamation." Among the ancients the key was a symbol of silence and circumspection; and thus Sophocles alludes to it in the Oedipus Coloneus (line 105), where he makes the chorus speak of "the golden key which had come upon the tongue of the ministering Hierophant in the mysteries of Eleusis-Callimachus says that the Priestess of Ceres bore a key as the ensign of her mystic office. The key was in the Mysteries of Isis a hieroglyphic of the opening or disclosing of the heart and conscience, in the kingdom of death, for trial and Judgment.

In the old instructions of Freemasonry the key was an important symbol, and Doctor Oliver regrets that it has been abandoned in the modern system. In the ceremonies of the First Degree, in the eighteenth century allusion is made to a key by whose help the secrets of Freemasonry are to be obtained, which key "is said to hang and not to lie, because it is always to hang in a brother's defense and not to lie to his prejudge." It was said, too, to hang "by the thread of life at the entrance, " and was closely connected with the heart, because the tongue "ought to utter nothing but what the heart dictates." And, finally, this key is described as being "composed of no metal, but a tongue of good report." In the ceremonies of the Masters Degree in the Adonhiramite Rite, we find this catechism (in the Recueil Précieu:, page 87):

What do you conceal?
All the secrets which have been intrusted to me.
Where do you conceal them?
In the heart.
Have you a key to gain entrance there?
Yes, Right Worshipful.
Where do you keep it?
In a box of coral which opens and shuts only with ivory teeth.
Of what metal is it composed?
Of none. It is a tongue obedient to reason, which knows only how to speak well of those of whom it speaks in their absence as in their presence.

All of this shows that the key as a symbol was formerly equivalent to the modern symbol of the "instructive tongue," which, however, with almost the same interpretation, has now been transferred to the Second or Fellow-Craft's Degree. The key, however, is still preserved as a symbol of secrecy in the Royal Arch Degree; and it is also presented to us in the same sense in the ivory key of the Secret Master, or Fourth Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite. In many of the German Lodges an ivory key is made a part of the Masonic clothing of each Brother, to remind him that he should lock up or conceal the secrets of Freemasonry in his heart. But among the ancients the key was also a symbol of power; and thus among the Greeks the title of Kxeiaouxos or key-bearer, was bestowed upon one holding high office; and with the Romans, the keys are given to the bride on the day of marriage, as a token that the authority of the house was bestowed upon her; and if afterward divorced, they were taken from her, as a symbol of the deprivation of her office, Among the Hebrews the key was used in the same sense. "As the robe and the baldric," says Lowth (Israel, part ii, section 4), "were the ensigns of power and authority, so likewise was the key the mark of office, either sacred or civil." Thus in Isaiah (xxii, 22), it is said: "The key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulders; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open" Our Savior expressed a similar idea when he said to Saint Peter, "I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven." It is in reference to this interpretation of the symbol, and not that of secrecy, that the key has been adopted as the official jewel of the Treasurer of a Lodge, because he has the purse, the source of power, under his command.

- Source: Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry

by Cordelia 21.06.14 10:48

Morning l'idiote

What do you conceal?
All the secrets which have been intrusted to me.
Where do you conceal them?
In the heart.
Have you a key to gain entrance there?
Yes, Right Worshipful.
Where do you keep it?
In a box of coral which opens and shuts only with ivory teeth.
Of what metal is it composed?
Of none. It is a tongue obedient to reason, which knows only how to speak well of those of whom it speaks in their absence as in their presence."

That's quite Poetic I remember the Lord Lucan case , who was supposed to have killed the Nannie, he disappeared without a trace, said to be
helped by Freemasons ,do you think they are that powerful ??

by j.rob 21.06.14 14:21

Peter Wilmshurst, a cardiologist at the University Hospital of North Staffordshire and a campaigner on medical research fraud, said: “Mr Banerjee did awful things and only eight years after getting back on to the medical register he is rewarded with an MBE.
“If you have got a record of misconduct going back to the late 1980s, you would have to do something very remarkable in the next eight years to deserve an award. But I have not heard of him doing anything.”

Quite.

I certainly don't want to trust my healthcare to a criminal.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/surgeon-made-mbe-last-week-was-struck-off-in-2002-for-research-fraud-9552928.html